Will Hilary take McCain's VP spot??

At times it almost seems like Hilary is auditioning for McCain's VP spot. She mentions his service, his experience, his being ready on day one to be president...many people have wondered why she would be building McCain up so high...some have joked that she sounds like she is working hard to be McCain's VP...perhaps it isn't a joke...

The fact of the matter is this...

Yes Senator Clinton wants to be the Democratic nomminee for president. But it is now almost impossible for that to happen. Yet she promises to keep on all the way to the convention...attacking Senator Obama the whole way.

Now she can't win with pledged delegates...but she will keep fighting and attacking and hope to win with super delegates, If that doesn't happen and Obama wins the nomination, well some see the plan as Clinton hurting Obama so badly that McCain will win in November and Senator Clinton can run again in 2012.

But perhaps there really is a third plan, a plan C (plan A was to win the Dem nomination, plan B is to hurt Obama so McCain wins so Clinton can run in 2012). Perhaps this plan C is for Hilary to actually be McCain's VP...

It wouldn't be so unthinkable...after all McCain was auditioning and was considered a possible VP choice for Kerry back in 2004. If McCain was ready to leave the republicans and be Kerry's VP choice, is it so strange to think of Clinton leaving the dems and being McCain's VP?

Yes, It would hurt with the Repub base, but the repub base doesn't like McCain...it might actually improve McCain's "survivial" through his term...i mean heck, if he picks a fundy like Huckabee for VP, well fundies might do McCain "harm" to get a fundy to the top...they would NEVER harm McCain if it put Hilary at the top...

And it would show McCain as a maverick and independent again. And it would draw right-leaning dems to the dark side...it would open a whole new round of reagan democrats, this time with McCain/Clinton democrats voting for the repubs...

So....the questions are...would McCain offer? Would Clinton accept? Is a deal already in the works and Clinton is following a plan by attacking so very much and building up McCain to an insane amount?

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•  Hey... wait a second!

  Why should Hillary take the VP spot? Why not Clinton/McCain? Do you think Clinton is any less of a Republican than McCain?

  by bmozaffari on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 11:32:41 AM PDT

  •  According to Ann Coulter

    Hillary is more CONSERVATIVE than John McCain, so that's always a possibility.

    by Muzikal203 on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 11:53:59 AM PDT

•  Plan B

  I really don't think she is even thinking that far in advance.  That's part of the problem...and another reason not to vote for her.  She has no big picture vision.  She is only concerned about short term success.

  by MLDB on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 11:34:12 AM PDT

•  I don't understand

  How a site that supposedly attracts people who follow politics very closely can be the home of multiple diaries on this subject.  In what alternative universe would this ever happen?  

  by zed on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 11:35:05 AM PDT

  •  It's not just this subject

    The site attract people with varying levels of political knowledge, sophistication and intelligence.  Thus you see ideas that are fairly ridiculous.  Often (but not always), the community recognizes this.

    by Justanothernyer on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 11:39:25 AM PDT

  •  Fair enough

    Fair enough.  Perhaps you could post a diary explaining exactly what Senator Clinton's strategy is and how she is selected her tactics to drive that strategy?  Up to a few weeks ago I thought I understood, but for the last two weeks I have heard nothing but Republican frames coming out of her campaign.  Frames which could very easily lead to her losing to McCain in the general and the complete destruction of the Democratic Party.  Please tell me that this isn't so; please tell me she has a strategy.  Then please tell me what that strategy is.

    sPh

    by sphealey on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 11:43:29 AM PDT

•  McCain won't offer it to her.

  The NeoCon wing of the party would defect in droves to another party, basically destroying the Republican party as we know it, and cede the GE to the Dems in a Johnson'esque landslide.

  McCain maybe a "maverick", but he needs to the NeoCons to win.

  by TheStormofWar on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 11:35:38 AM PDT

•  Can we stop this stupid shit yet?

  by ablington on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 11:36:06 AM PDT

•  Yes, good point

  Because if McCain picked Hillary Clinton as his VP that'd really mobilise the Republican base, wouldn't it?  How thrilled they would be with that.

  Very silly diary.

  by TruthOfAngels on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 11:40:01 AM PDT

  •  Which is exactly why I hope it happens...

    I can't imagine anything solidifying support for Obama more than the mutual hatred for Hillary Clinton from the left and the right.

    Not that I really think it's remotely likely, but her recent rhetoric about how awesome McCain is is truly bizarre.  And who knows -- she certainly hasn't done much that's made a lot of sense lately.

    by mad clamor on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 11:45:54 AM PDT

    •  According to Bill

      She's great friends with McCain, and they go out on boats together. It's one thing to do what Obama does and honor the man for his service to the military, it's quite another to basically say "If I can't be President, then vote McCain!! He has experience!!".

      by Muzikal203 on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 11:56:37 AM PDT

•  draftobamaclinton.com

  There is a petition up urging the two to come together for the sake of party unity, and to present a strong ticket to oppose McBush:

  http://draftobamaclinton.com/

  by RandomActsOfReason on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 12:00:13 PM PDT

  •  DANGER. We fall into the frame itself

    if we believe it's healthy for Obama to find common ground with Clinton.
    Clinton = McCain by all reasoning through her comments and disgust with Democrats not supporting her.

    This test could actually make Obama more aware of the need to adopt the most progressive of frames away from the DLC.

    Repudiate the McClinton legacy once and for all.  And win doing so.

    by wobbledon on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 12:12:55 PM PDT

    •  Feel good vs. winning strategy

      It's not about Obama and Clinton finding common ground, it is about Democratic supporters finding common ground, so we can work together to elect whomever the Democratic nominee is and defeat McBush.

      I am not a Clinton supporter - far, far from it. But I am concerned about what happens to us - US, not Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama - at and after the convention.

      The fact is that roughly half of Democratic voters support Clinton and roughly half support Obama. You may not like that (hell, I don't like it) - but democracy is not about getting your way, it is about getting a way that agrees with a majority of voters. And, by the way, that means a majority of all American voters, when it comes down to it.

      I happen to support Obama's candidacy - without reservation and with great enthusiasm - but I don't think it is reasonable for me to insist that only his, or my, opinions count.

      A divided party with one side at the other's throat may feel nice and pure and antiestablishment to you, but I'm not interested in Pyrrhic victories - and neither is Daily Kos about that. It is about actually electing more progressive Democrats.

      by RandomActsOfReason on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 01:44:13 PM PDT

•  There is such a small chance of this...

  That it rivals the small chance there is of Obama running as an Independent should Clinton become the nominee.

  I can't wait to get back to attacking Republican'ts.

  by BasharH on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 12:08:44 PM PDT

•  I missed the snark in your tag...

  This is just silly...but I hope it made you feel better  :-)

  by dvogel001 on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 12:10:49 PM PDT

•  ha, not so silly and not at all crazy talk...

  mccain was on the short list for kerry in 2004...mccain would have left the repub party in 2004 if Kerry had offered the VP spot to him...

  in hindsight, kerry would have likely won in 2004 if he had picked McCain

  now i doubt that McCain will, and i doubt Clinton would take it...i think she is going plan b and running in 2012 against mccain is good for her...and if obama wins in 2008 she can't run in 2012

  she can't win today, but she attacks obama while giving mccain endless love...that doesn't work if she is going plan A...she can't say he is great and would be a great president and then run against him in nov...so she is giving up this november for 2012...

  the only other option is she is loving on mccain to join his ticket...don't think it will happen, but it could...and where will the necons go? to obama and the dems? ha, no way...and the fundies...yeah they will hate it, but they would hate voting obama and dems more...

  so he loses some fundies, that might not vote for him, and that is it...the necons will love mccain and clinton...two hawks that support war...the fundies will have no where else to go...and he picks up tons of independents and right leaning dems

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  by thegelding on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 12:14:15 PM PDT