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The Historic Realignment  in the Democratic Party

Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 09:14:17 AM PDT

On the face of it, the Primary campaign is all about personality and not about substance. The stated positions of the two candidates, the wisdom goes, are so close that the argument is over who can make the better against Sen. McCain. Then why is there such a heated prolonged battle between the Clinton and Obama camps?

In fact what we are seeing is a historic realignment in the Democratic Party. The Republican Party of Ronald Reagan that held such sway over the Nation ( even through the Clinton years) has collapsed. Eight years  of incompetence and malfeasance, and a longer period of successes, have drained it of energy. This is not to say that the Right Wing in the country is finished. The Clinton wing of the Democratic party is moving in to fill that role. In effect they are aligning themselves with what is left of the Republicans to defeat the Liberal wing of the Democratic Party. The Liberal Wing is in effect, the continuation of the Hubert Humphrey-McGovern tradition. It was revived fiour years ago by Dean and is now led by Obama. It is the

Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party.

The Clinton wing is centered around the Democratic Leadership Council, which was established in the waning years of the twentieth century as an attempt to meet the Republicans half way. This `Third Way' allowed the Democrats to enjoy a modicum of power during the Clinton years. By sacrificing Congress, in the infamous Triangulation strategy,  Clinton was able to get re-elected. For all its flaws, the Clinton Presidency showed the nation that Democrats could balance the budget and oversee an economic boom. It is no small accomplishment that we had  peace and prosperity for close to a decade.

But we are in a position to ask for more. The collapse of the Republican Party means we should not any more settle for just a fraction of the power.

The Clintons, perhaps the most astute observers of the American political scene, are fully aware that they  need a new base. South Carolina was their final break with the Liberal Wing. They saw that the groups that they had relied upon for decades to deliver 90% of the vote were abandoning them in droves. Because now there is an alternative, a new movement and energy.

The Clintons were not  unprepared for this eventuality. They  had been quietly amassing a fortune of $110M in the years out of power. They had made friends with the Murdoch family,  which owns Fox News: the main channel of anti-Democratic propaganda. They also reached out to their former mortal  enemy Mellon Scaife. They established strong relationship with the Washington Lobbying industry, placing one of their family factotums (Mark Penn) as the CEO of the largest lobbying firm. The delicious irony is that Sen. McCain's chief strategist (Charlie Black) worked for Mark Penn, at the same time that Mark Penn was Sen. Clinton's Chief Strategist. This enabled the Clintons to both oppose and lobby for the Colombian Free Pact. To both profit from China while asking for a  boycott of China.

It is no coincidence that Hillary Clinton is good friends with the famously prickly Sen. McCain. Relations between McCain and Obama are far more tense. The Clintons saw McCain as a potential ally even as they prepared to place Sen. Clinton as the inevitable Democratic nominee. They clearly saw Dean as a threat which is why they fought tooth and nail to keep him away from the DNC chairmanship. MacAuliffe was their man,who stuffed the DNC with reliable party hacks who wrote the rules of the coming Primary contest. In another delicious twist, the Clintons are now complaining that the rules are unfair to them.

The stage is now set for a historic confrontation. What Liberal Democrats face  is an unofficial-but very real- alliance of the decayed Republican Party with the Clinton-DLC wing of the Democratic Party.  That is why Hillary Clinton is attacking Obama as an Elitist: the Right Wing  codeword for Liberal. This continues the pattern when she said

Sen. McCain brings a lifetime of experience. I bring a lifetime of experience. Sen. Obama brings a speech..

We forget that until FDR the Democrats were the Right Wing Party. The party of Jim Crow and Segregation. That wing was strong until the Civil Rights era. Now that they have lost the hearts and minds of the Liberals (SC was the turning point) the Clintons are switching sides and recreating the old Dixiecrats. Many of the stalwarts of the Republican Party today are former Democrats who find a natural  affinity with the Clintons. Liebermann and Harold Ford can be part of the Clinton Wing easily. Pelosi will be with the Liberal wing even if she has to remain neutral officially because she is Speaker.

How can Sen. Clinton be not a liberal, given that her policy positions are so similar to Obama's? This is an old Clinton trick, to obfuscate differences with your opponent. It is not the slogans,  but what you actually do that matter. If you are banking money from lobbying groups for Colombian Free Trade while railing against it publicly, you are less of a Democrat than me. If you ask for a Boycott of the Olympics while making profit from companies repress Tibet, you are only a Democrat in name.  If you deny that the folks in rural Pennsylvania are  bitter from twenty years (including the Clinton years) of losing jobs, you are the one out of touch. And certainly not a Liberal.

A members of the  DLC would bristle at the idea  that he is less of Democrat. The old Right Wing Democrats  also bristled when it was suggested that they were less Democratic. History shows that they were. Many of them left the  Democratic Party, and became  stalwarts of the Republican Party. You want me to list them? Let us start with Ronald Reagan.

The 1990's are over. The old labels don't make much sense anymore. To the extent  they do, they don't apply to the same people. There is whole new media culture, an entirely new generation of voters, new ways of organizing and raising money. Ward Bosses do not need to be paid anymore, endorsements from party hacks count for less. We live at a time when a group of idealists insurgents can take over the Democratic Party. We might lose at first as with Liebermann in the GE. But each loss will make us stronger if we won't compromise .And each victory (e.g., Foster for Congress) will weaken the opposition.  It was not wrong to oppose Liebermann in 2006. It is not wrong to fight the Clintons now. Politics is about making choices. Which side are you on?

To summarize:

Back in the 1990's when the country was so far  to the right, the Democratic Party  had to compromise to get any share of power. But the Right Wing has screwed up so royally over the last decade that, there is a swing to the left now nationally. The wind is at our back.

We don't need a DLC. Or a  Third Way. The First Way, Republicanism is floundering. The Clinton wing, of which the DLC is an important part, needs to be defeated. We will win, if not in this election, in the next. Elections are not only about winning office; they are also about  who we are as a Party.

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  •  What I want is to see major progress with (6+ / 0-)

    independents and swing voters. Obama is making a major dent with that group, and will do even better once we get a one-on-one matchup of Obama vs. McCain.

    I was a Republican until they lost their minds, The word 'conservative' means 'discriminatory,' ... It's a form of political discrimination. --- Charles Barkley

    by Kimball Cross on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 09:19:19 AM PDT

  •  The realignment is less of the Democratic Party, (8+ / 0-)

    and more of the nation back towards the Democratic Party as the controlling paradigm in American politics.  The Republicans have been that controlling paradigm since 1980 (some would say 1968, but Watergate shifted the balance back to the Dems for the '70s).  Now, it is our turn again.

    That is, if we can chose a candidate who does not accept the paradigms of the past, one who seeks to break out of the box and re-establish the Democratic Party.

    In other words, we need to nominate,and then elect, Barack Obama.

    John McCain - Practicing the old style of politics for the past 72 years!

    by Its the Supreme Court Stupid on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 09:21:05 AM PDT

  •  Also a realignment of the country's politics (8+ / 0-)

    It is not just the Democratic party that is in the process of realigning itself.  A quick look at voter identification and registration these days suggests that the it is much more than just movement within the party.  While all of the petty events of the day get people humming and hawing, it looks more and more to me like Obama and the Democratic party are aligned for sweeping and decisive victories in November.  The American people are remarkably tolerant, but there is only such much a people can take of incompetent governance and a deeply flawed political philosophy.

  •  Floundering, huh? (0+ / 0-)

    You check the latest head-to head polls with mcCain? This diary is mis-guided at best. You're whistling past the graveyard, go ahead count your chickens in April. An utter lack of understanding repug fortitude. They've got many millions in 527 cash to do their dirty work and do it they will, to keep mcCain above the fray. He will denounce all of it therefore giving double the air-play, endearing himself to indies and moderates (blech!). Wake up and smell the coffee.

    •  McCain is benefitting from alliance with Clinton (5+ / 0-)

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      Once the Clintons are defeated we will take him on. His free ride will end.

      McCain goes through life looking backwards. Explains why he crashed five planes.

      by organicdemocrat on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 09:24:21 AM PDT

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    •  Yes, and they look great. (3+ / 0-)

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      You check the latest head-to head polls with mcCain?

      If you screw your head on properly when looking at them. Obama hasn't lifted a finger at McCain yet, and he's competitive coast to coast. Everywhere Obama has campaigned, he was won over the people in huge numbers. He will indeed win in November.

      The nation's got a worst-ever "wrong track" mood, as evidenced by other polls. The President's got a record low approval. The country is heading into recession and is weary of war. Self-identification with the Democratic Party is up, GOP down.

      All the reliable GE projection models - which take into consideration all such things -- point to a huge Democratic tail-wind.

      And remember: Kerry states + CO + NM + NV = victory. Add IA, OH, anything else... big victory.

      John McCain: Getting Terrorists off America's Lawn since 1880

      by pat208 on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 09:41:08 AM PDT

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    •  WE'RE DOOMED! DOOMED! (3+ / 0-)

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      DON'T YOU GET IT?!?!?

      THE REPUBLICANS WILL SAY: MEAN THINGS!!1! MEAN THINGS!!1!

      UNLESS WE NOMINATE HILLRY!!1! SHE'S VETTED!!!!1! SCANDAL FREE!!1!

      •  She is well Vetted that she is one of them now. (0+ / 0-)

        McCain goes through life looking backwards. Explains why he crashed five planes.

        by organicdemocrat on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 09:45:43 AM PDT

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        •  So well Vetted she is Republican in all but name (0+ / 0-)

          McCain goes through life looking backwards. Explains why he crashed five planes.

          by organicdemocrat on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 09:54:32 AM PDT

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          •  What's she's done is finally (2+ / 0-)

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            shown the uselessness of attempting to use party labels to obtain an accurate gauge of a politician's agenda.  Really, really bad for the Democratic party brand name, but very necessary in a way.  The Lieberman-Clinton wing of the party can't continue to drive the Democratic party's policy.

            •  Clinton2008=Liebermann2006 (0+ / 0-)

              Watch what Liebermann is doing now we can see what Clinton will be doing in two years. Except on a much grander scale.

              McCain goes through life looking backwards. Explains why he crashed five planes.

              by organicdemocrat on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 10:21:09 AM PDT

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              •  Agreed. And Senator from NY (2+ / 0-)

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                is now an avid hunter and seems to have a problem with gun control.  Complete utter bs.

                I noted in Kid Oakland's excellent diary: these aren't Republican tactics insofar as they're confined to one party or another; these are the tactics of wanna-be aristocrats, politicians who are pursuing an opaque agenda and use tricks and chicanery to hide that agenda.  Why anyone would eyes wide open vote for it is beyond me, but then, the AUMF vote was beyond me too.

                •  $110M gives you a new perspective. (0+ / 0-)

                  No longer the man from Hope. The one that campaigns against Hope and Change.

                  McCain goes through life looking backwards. Explains why he crashed five planes.

                  by organicdemocrat on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 10:28:11 AM PDT

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                  •  They made more than that (2+ / 0-)

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                    Much more.  There's a reason they refused to release tax returns for the year just prior to a set of presidential elections for which Clinton is running.

                    I can absolutely guarantee you that they raked in money as the usual suspects paid speaking fees, etc., in anticipation of currying favor with what they thought would be the future president.

                    BushCo II with a new set of crooks and less contempt for the poor.  That's what these Clinton supporters are voting for.  Only to wonder, "why is Pres. H. Clinton launching another war?" when her agenda is clear to anybody looking past the phony crap.

    •  So then, (0+ / 0-)

      We should do what, River Dan? Roll over and play dead because those big, bad Repubs may say or do something?
      It's sooo time to fight back, for our country and our selves and our children (and our grandchildren too!)
      Bill Clinton tried to deal with them by continuing to move his goalposts too, for the most part, rather than fight them on better ways. He ended up losing the Congress and was only reelected because it was Senior Bob's turn for having been a good soldier. Just like it's Senior McCain's turn this time. If we can't take on this old, pathetic excuse for a Senator then we deserve to lose.

  •  Flag Burning a Clinton Issue now (4+ / 0-)

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    Carl Bernstein on CNN Blog AC360:

    True, her most revealing moment as a senator of national consequence was the vote she cast to authorize George W. Bush to go to war, which she’s been trying to explain since with dubious credibility. (“If I knew now what I knew then,” etc.) Twenty-one of her fellow Democratic senators had no doubts about what Bush intended, and voted against the authorization.

    The second most revealing moment was her endorsement of legislation to the Constitution to make flag-burning illegal, the kind of pandering she once attacked right-wing Republicans of practicing.

    McCain goes through life looking backwards. Explains why he crashed five planes.

    by organicdemocrat on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 09:29:47 AM PDT

  •  A cautionary note here (4+ / 0-)

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    There were three groups that Rove cobbled together to get Bush in office: economic, social, and military conservatives; there is some overlap among the three.
    Economic conservatives were for the tax cuts, and are now horrified by the bungled, dragged out war cost, as well as economic bungling in general, as well as the crude emphasis on social issues.
    Social ones are just that - the God, gays, guns crowd, though not all "rednecks" I'd add are particularly religious.
    Military gang I suppose would be the neocon, let's go back and finish the Gulf War job, etc. This group is the least likely IMHO part of any "realignment" IMHO.
    Please bear in mind that many newly-realigned Dem-voters will not be particularly "progressive" (by kos standards): the econ ones will want the govt to intervene to help them (historically found in such places as Southwest PA), but are definitely not socially liberal, while the social ones can be found 180 degrees away as socially liberal (Rockerfeller wing), but are leery of soak-the-"rich" tax hikes.
    I had thought this election would be like 1974, but now it seems more like 1932.

  •  Take issue with one point (2+ / 0-)

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    The Democrats weren't the right-wing party until FDR.  They were until 1896, when Bryan's populists overthrew Cleveland's bourbons.  Segregationists were in the party then, and they were after FDR came along.

    A proud member of the "far left."

    by Paleo on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 09:32:13 AM PDT

  •  Hillary the Hunter (0+ / 0-)

    ABC News' Eloise Harper reports: When a woman told Hillary Clinton today that her husband was worried about their guns being taken away, the New York senator -- speaking just days after the shootings at the University of Northern Illinois -- informed the crowd that she knows how to handle a gun.

    "I’ve actually gone hunting. I know. I know you may not believe it, but it's true. My father taught me to shoot 100 years ago," she said.

    When a reporter asked her if she had ever actually shot anything, she said she had.

    "A duck, and a lot of tin cans and a lot of targets and some skeet," she said. "See Mike, you don’t know everything about me, as long as you have covered me."

    After building up her street cred with hunters, she took a decidedly measured approach to the issue of gun control.

    "We need to protect the rights of lawful gun owners under the Second Amendment, there is no doubt about that, and as you’ve said, we’ve got to figure out how to get guns out of the hands of bad people," she said. "So what we’ve got to figure out how to do is make it absolutely clear that no lawful gun owner is going to have anything to worry about."

    McCain goes through life looking backwards. Explains why he crashed five planes.

    by organicdemocrat on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 09:42:58 AM PDT

  •  Agree, first things first. Everything is fluid.. (1+ / 0-)

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    right now, alot of people getting ahead of themselves, always a danger sign.

  •  I look at your diary history (1+ / 0-)

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    It is very centered on anti-Clinton.  I find that a bit distasteful.

    I find your logic base faulty here in that you speak of Humphrey-McGovern.  A Humphrey and McGovern as the same is about like saying Clinton and Obama are the same.  So now I suspect you are both a one position diarist and I know your research is poor.

    I am an Obama voter and an alternate state delegate.  I actively campaign for his nomination.  That being said, I do not buy into the politics of hate and/or misinformation.  

    I do not ever see Hillary Clinton as a Republican light.  You are confusing tactics with voting records.  Humphrey was part of the old political machine of his time when he campaigned against McGovern.  McGovern was the new brand of honest campaigning.

    But make no mistake about it.  To people who do not buying the election propaganda, Humphrey, McGovern, Clinton, and Obama were and will continue to be Democrats in good standing.  

    "He who fears something gives it power over him."--Arab proverb

    by crazyshirley2100 on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 10:01:34 AM PDT

    •  Humphrey in the fifties, McGovern later (0+ / 0-)

      Political leaders are not static. I was for Clintons in the nineties. Their  time has come and gone. Some day it will be time for Obama to depart also.

      Humphrey's time was in the fifties. McGovern's in the sixties and seventies. New energy has to replace the old. What was best in one era becomes outdated and needs changing in another. We are in such a transition now.

      Right now the focus is on defeating the Clintons. After that McCain. One battle at a time. Time for unity is after Clinton has conceded.

      McCain goes through life looking backwards. Explains why he crashed five planes.

      by organicdemocrat on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 10:08:22 AM PDT

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    •  Flag Burning,Hunting, Elitist,War Vote=Republican (2+ / 0-)

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      in all but name. There is a time when tactics define who you are.

      McCain goes through life looking backwards. Explains why he crashed five planes.

      by organicdemocrat on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 10:11:57 AM PDT

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