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Rasmussen: Mixed Bag for Obama

Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 08:53:01 AM PDT

First the good news.  Obama is back on top of Clinton by 9 points in the daily tracker, according to Rasmussen.

Obama now leads Clinton by 50 - 41, which comes close to his peak last week.  Since Rasmussen averages over 4 days, last Thursday's numbers have fallen off - so these numbers include all of the post 'bittergate' polling.

Obama now also is only three points behind McCain, 47-43.  And his favorability ratings are improving.

The bad news and my 1/500 of a sawbuck after the break.

The bad news is that, according to Rasmussen, Obama has lost ground to Clinton in PA.  Obama now loses by 9 points, instead of the 6 last week.

It seems to me that the whole 'bittergate' tempest may be hurting Clinton nationally, especially among so-called 'Democrats'.  Or it could just be that Democrats are tired of this primary season, realize that the longer it drags on it helps McCain and are ready for this thing to be over.  Or it could be a combination of both.

However, 'bittergate' may resonate somewhat with the folks in PA and IN, at least initially.  Or it could be that that the undecided are just breaking for Hillary.  It is really hard to tell at this point.

Poll

How bitter are you?

39%41 votes
2%3 votes
5%6 votes
12%13 votes
24%26 votes
3%4 votes
1%2 votes
0%1 votes
8%9 votes

| 105 votes | Vote | Results

Tags: Hilary Clinton, Barack Obama, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Election 2008, poll, Rasmussen (all tags) :: Previous Tag Versions

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  •  Charity line... (9+ / 0-)

    Go Lakers!

    '[Obama] has treated us like adults throughout this primary, and it is time to act like adults.' - John Cole

    by RichM on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 08:53:23 AM PDT

    •  A possible explanation for the differences in PA (1+ / 0-)

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      Allogenes

      from the national polls is HRC is running a lot of anti-Obama negative ads there, has the local Dem political machinery actively spinning it her way,  and they may take it more personally.

      You can be sure the right wing is keeping copies of all of her stuff and will fling it right back at us in the fall.

      So it will end up being more damaging nationally in the long term than we see here.

      Which is yet another reason why I support the pro-Obama supers and pro-unity Dems announcing for Obama now, not after ID and NC or in June.  I see no reason to risk further damage to our party and fall election chances for the symbollic value of running through all the primaries.  

      HRC started with 100 plus supers endorsing so the assertion that pro-Obama supers not would be overriding the electorate is bogus, IMO.

      Also, let's not forget that all the money, time, attention, and other resources would be much better spent going after McCain and supporting worthy downticket Dems.

      Can anyone beleive now there is any chance at all the supers could pull a backdoor maneuver to give the nomination to HRC over Obama for any reason what-so-ever without destroying the party?  

      So why accumulate these negatives.  Supers stand up and have the courage to do the right thing for our party and country.  

      Endorse Obama Now!  

      The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

      by HoundDog on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:30:16 AM PDT

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  •  You beat me!:) (4+ / 0-)

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    RichM, boofdah, Allogenes, blueocean

    But I'm doing a whole thread on the gallup + rasmussen, so I'll keep mine up I guess...

    Barack Obama is the nominee.

    by Mark Warner is God on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 08:55:07 AM PDT

  •  I'm as bitter as belgian endive n/t (2+ / 0-)

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    RichM, Allogenes

    "That's what killed Dennis Day-- contempt for the audience." -- Phil Hartman as Frank Sinatra

    by Pangloss on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 08:58:17 AM PDT

    •  Oh god... (1+ / 0-)

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      Allogenes

      That is the coup d'grace.  I've been to Belgium many times and I love their food dearly.  But they consider endive a delicacy and I can't stand the stuff.

      '[Obama] has treated us like adults throughout this primary, and it is time to act like adults.' - John Cole

      by RichM on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:01:23 AM PDT

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  •  All that nonsense for 3 little polling points (3+ / 0-)

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    Allogenes, paintitblue, Amber6541

    Hours of news coverage for 3 little polling points.

    Print and internet articles everywhere for 3 little polling points.

    One little, two little, three little polling points.
    Hillary's still going to lose.

  •  Heck, I'll take a 9 point loss in PA; (4+ / 0-)

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    Allogenes, soms, paintitblue, Amber6541

    as long as he can keep it below a 10 point loss, it's a win.  Plus, there's a debate and a week to go; miracles can happen!

    "The man and the hour have met!" Ladies and gentlemen, the next President of the United States, Barack Obama!

    by PittsburghPete on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:00:50 AM PDT

  •  No bad news. I thought Rasmussen's poll last week (2+ / 0-)

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    RichM, Allogenes

    was low on PA.  To me the race has always been somewhere between 5 and 10 points, but closer to 10 than 5.  Just look at the Ohio results.  If she wins by less than 10 points, it's  a victory for Obama.

    btw - this has been diaried by several already today.

    The only thing we have to fear is fear itself - FDR. Obama Nation. -6.13 -6.15

    by ecostar on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:01:09 AM PDT

  •  Nationally, Obama's one point off his (1+ / 0-)

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    Allogenes

    recent high of 51; Clinton is is one point off her recent low of 40. She was leading by one point 3 days ago.

    The movement in favorable/unfavorable ratings is interesting too. Clinton's at 43/54, one point in each category off her worst. Obama is stablizing at 49/49.

    I suppose that's what an overplayed hand might look like.

  •  IIRC, when Air America had a program called (2+ / 0-)

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    Morning Sedition with Lizz Winstead and Rachel Maddow, someone or something (sorry, I forgot) was described as being as "bitter as a lemon in Bea Arthur's vagina."  Your poll question and anwers brought back that bitter memory, thank you very much ;-)

    "Some men see things as they are and say 'Why?' I dream things that never were and say, 'I need to quit drinking!'" - Greasy Grant

    by Greasy Grant on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:04:03 AM PDT

  •  9 point loss passes gut check (2+ / 0-)

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    Allogenes, Amber6541

    I think moving from 6 to 9 points is nothing but margin of error in the polling.  The thing I love best is that the bitter boomarang is coming back to Clinton now.  Hard to call people elite when Clinton has had a security detail for 20 years and would not know what to do in a Penn Wal-Mart. (no busting Wal-Mart unions does not count)

  •  Plenty of close polls... (1+ / 0-)

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    Allogenes

    with a debate tomorrow and a late flurry of campaigning, Obama will do just fine in PA.

    I think the latest stunt by HRC shows she's very worried about PA. Just like any good Republican would do, she's trying to polarize the electorate. Same old 'bitter' politics.

    Change will not come if we wait for some other person or if we wait for some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek.

    by First Amendment on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:17:31 AM PDT

  •  9 points (1+ / 0-)

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    Allogenes

    9 points behind isn't great.
    OTOH,if Obama finishes 9 points behind in PA, all he'll have to do for the rest of the race in order to get to Denver with more elected delegates is to keep his name on the ballot.

    I'm not recommending this as a tactic, but Clinton has to sweep all three of PA, NC, and IN by large margins to look possible in Denvver.

    "The three main issues in this campaign are Iraq, Iraq, and Iraq." -- Bill Foster

    by Frank Palmer on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:30:34 AM PDT

  •  I'm as bitter as alum n/t (1+ / 0-)

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    Allogenes

    "That's what killed Dennis Day-- contempt for the audience." -- Phil Hartman as Frank Sinatra

    by Pangloss on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:39:08 AM PDT

  •  Quin PAsays no change, and it is a very good poll (1+ / 0-)

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    Allogenes

    so I would not read much into a couple point change in Ras's PA poll, probably statistical noise.

  •  love bitter-sweet dark chocolate w/ orange (1+ / 0-)

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    Allogenes

    why is that not there - at least dark chocolate bitter-sweet?! Don't like your poll, now that I think about it, its almost as flawed as ARG, and thats saying a lot! Shame on you! I am proud to be sitting here commenting in your diary... god wake me up when Obama is POTUS, and we have sense back in the WH!

    Last week he was a Muslim, this week he's a Christian fundamentalist?! Excuse me?! Me head's spinning!

    by karanja on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:20:40 AM PDT

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