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Asian American's sharp turn to the left

Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 09:12:27 AM PDT

Asian Americans have become a reliable Democratic voting block during the past decade. Clinton lost the Asian vote twice in the 90's. Gore won it in 2000 marking the first time Asian vote swung to Democrats in a presidential election. Kerry also carried the Asian vote in 2004 by a landslide. Turning out the Asian voting block in the battle ground states should be a key ingredient of Obama's November victory.

The percentage of the Asian population in some of the battleground states is listed below (data from US Census Bureau 2006 estimates):
Virginia:   4.8%
Colorado:   2.6%
Pennsylvania: 2.4%
Florida:    2.2%
Iowa:       1.6%
Ohio:       1.5%
Missouri:   1.4%
New Mexico: 1.3%

The traditional stereotype of an Asian America is someone who is hard working, quiet, and conservative. Like all stereotypes, this one also has some element of truth at some time in history. For decades Asian Americans have been reliable GOP voters. This started to change with Clinton. Although Clinton didn't win the Asian votes in either 92 or 96, he won their hearts during his 8 years of presidency. As a result, in 2000 Gore won the Asian American vote by an overwhelming margin. The goodwill that Clinton built carries on today. Hillary Clinton won the Asian American votes by a margin of 3 to 1 over Obama in the primaries this year. That is a larger margin than her Latino votes. Below is the breakdown of Asian votes in presidential elections since 1984. The trend is very clear.

  1.   32% Mondale     67% Reagan  (only CA data)
  1.   44% Dukakis     54% Bush
  1.   32% Clinton     52% Bush     17% Perot
  1.   43% Clinton     48% Dole
  1.   60% Gore        29% Bush    (average of two polls)
  1.   66% Kerry       31% Bush    (average of two polls)

(Above data from East Asian Americans and Political Participation: A Reference Handbook By Tsung Chi, Raymond A. Smith)

Part of the reason for this shift is the change in the makeup of the Asian American population. In the 60's and 70's most Asian immigrants were from Taiwan and Vietnam. These immigrants tend to equate leftism with communism. And since their memory of sufferings under communist governments, their ideology was rather right wing. These plus the traditionally conservative Japanese Americans make up the bulk of the Asian American vote that was solidly Republican. Starting from the 80's, more and more immigrants are from mainland China, Hong Kong, and India. These immigrants tend to be better educated and economically better off than the previous waves. They are also more likely to view the world in less polarized fashion, thus more resistant to the black and white, "them versus us" type of ideology promoted by the Republicans. But because of their economic status many of them are still sympathetic to the idea of economic conservatism and the corporate wing of the Republican party.

What really turned the Asian Americans to the left, is the increasing dominance of the Republican party by Christian fundamentalists. Asian Americans by and large are very weakly religious. They find the intolerance and in particular anti-science attitude displayed by the fundamentalists repulsive. It is not surprising then that the rise of the evangelical wing of the Republican party coincides with the departure of the Asian Americans from them.

Are there wedge issues that the Republicans can use to drive Asian Americans away from Democrats? I had thought that there weren't. The ideology of the Democratic party aligns so well with the interest of the Asian Americans, I couldn't imagine what Republicans could come up with. But I was wrong. They did come up with one, one that may do serious damage to us. The issue is Tibet. See Zwoof's diary on the role of neocons behind the riot in Lhasa. They have successfully whipped up a frenzy on both sides. The recent protests by the Chinese American community over Jack Cafferty's comments is an example. There are not many liberal voices on the MSM. If the Chinese Americans shut they collective ears to Cafferty because of a perceived "racist smear", that's one less channel for the communication.

Finally, let me tell a personal story. I have a Chinese American friend that I have known for over 25 years, since I first came to the US. He and I became US citizens at the same time. He lives in Florida and is a successful professional. Although I have been a democrat since day one, always voting for democrats in every election, my friend started out as an "independent" and consistently voted republican. Because of his personality (江湖义气), he has many more Chinese friends than I have. He is sort of the social "supernode." He also has great influence over his friends. As good as our relationship is, I couldn't get him to change his beliefs and vote democrat. In 2000, (and remember he is in Florida) he voted for Bush II because he "liked his father." I was so PO! He changed at the start of the Iraq war. He was mad at Bush for starting the war. So 2004 was a nobrainer, he voted for Kerry. This year he initially was strongly for Clinton. Now we have agreed to support Obama. I started to introduce him to dkos, sending him links and discussing with him some of the diaries here. He was about to register here when the Tibet thing erupted. After reading a few one-sided, ill-informed diaries, he was very upset. He told me that he would never visit dkos again. Now he is using his network to spread the message that we must fight anti-China racism. He is also organizing activities to support Beijing Olympics. It is this kind of voters that we have worked hard to win over, and risk losing them over mishandling the Tibet issue.

Last time I asked him, he is still committed to voting for Obama.

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    •  Hopefully no one mistakes political criticism (2+ / 0-)

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      jfern, esquimaux

      for racist invective,

      nor uses the troubles of other countries (say those of China) as an excuse to engage in such hateful rhetoric,

      nor uses the accusation of racism to hide from rightful comment on bad public policy.

      •  Too late...Chinese nationalists are fierce (0+ / 0-)

        Unfortunately, it's too late.  Even this diary is full of "Republicans started the Tibet protests" and playing to Chinese nationalism.  You now have Chinese Americans in LA demanding that Cafferty be fired because he called the Chinese dicatorship by committee a bunch of goons and thugs.  They consider that racist.

        Stratfor.com has been reporting recently on Chinese intellligence infiltration of many Chinese immigrant groups in the US, including students, and has reported that they've been paying $300 to some to protest in the US -- ironically, the same type of protests that would get them arrested in China.

  •  I'm guessing it is the newer (4+ / 0-)

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    dss, truong son traveler, xgz, blindyone

    generations becoming old enough to vote, at least in part.

    I am from MN and if you think our caucuses are undemocratic I have a lake to introduce you to.

    by edgeways on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 09:15:38 AM PDT

  •  Very informative about a population (6+ / 0-)

    that is not much in the political news here in the US.

  •  Vote republican? (1+ / 0-)

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    D in Northern Virginia

    For the life of me, I cannot understand how anyone that isn't white could possibly vote republican.  

    Of course, I cannot understand how anyone white, that isn't a millionaire, could possibly vote republican either.

    •  Well, remember that the Republicans (0+ / 0-)

      have actually had their party hijacked by neocons. It was, at one time, the party of Lincoln, and the Dems (especially southern ones) were not always on the right side of history...

      I was just talking to a Chinese man who now lives in California. He says he takes his daughter to visit the Nixon Library every year. He points to him, and says -- "Without this man, we would still be in China."

      There is a terrific case to be made to Asian Americans about why being a Democrat is good politics and good in principle. But few Dems seem to be willing to do the outreach to even try to understand where Asian Ams are coming from.

      YES WE CAN Register to Vote from China! http://www.votefromabroad.org

      by beijingbetty on Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 06:33:18 PM PDT

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  •  The religious neocon fervor of the GOP (2+ / 0-)

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    has turned off many Asian Americans.  They will consistently vote for Democrats this November.

    As for this primary season, they tend to vote for Clinton because "Bill = 90s = good economy".  However, you can say that same thing about any racial group this primary season.  Just like with Hispanics, the demographics break down by age.  Younger voters go for Obama, older go for Clinton.

    •  I think... (1+ / 0-)

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      truong son traveler

      The whole 'government spying on you' thing hits home too.  Asians, espeically Koreans and Chinese, come from police states.  Even Japan and Taiwan have more stringent police laws.  Asians are attracted to Republicans because of their whole 'rugged individualist, leave me alone to stake my own claim' mantra.  But they are hyper-sensitive to state interference in their personal lives.  It is why the left Asia.  So this whole spying, extradition, etc. that the Republicans seem to love so much is a big turn-off for them.

  •  Asian-Americans (7+ / 0-)

    are kind of hard to quantify as a voting block, I think. For a few reasons.

    Mainly, Asian-American is a big umbrella for a lot of different ethnic groups. The identification is more as Korean-American or as a Desi or a Fil-Am than as an Asian-American, it seems.

    On top of that, there's no one common language. Compared to Latinos, who hail from a lot of different countries but many have some link to speaking Spanish, even if it's a grandfather who speaks it.

    Religion is also kind of all over the map. Filipinos are very religious -- intensely Catholic. There's a lot of conservative Christian Koreans. But then Indian-Americans are not necessarily Christian. Many Japanese-Americans are Buddhists (especially those in Hawai'i). Some Chinese are Buddhist, some Christian.

    Given all this there's not any uniting issues that really come to mind that can speak to the whole community, because it doesn't really think of itself as a community. Sometimes immigrant rights rally some, but a lot of Asian-Amers are now at 3rd or 4th generation.

    I think it's interesting to ask what could unite Asian-Amers as a voting block. There's a certain political power that African and Latino Americans have that Asian-Americans don't because of the strong community identification.

  •  Fighting anti-China racism and Tibet. (4+ / 0-)

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    esquimaux, Zwoof, xgz, haremoor

    "Now he is using his network to spread the message that we must fight anti-China racism."

    Wow, that is quite a jump there, from politics to racism.  Because we disagree with the Chinese government and have a romantic idea of Tibetan buddhism, this makes us racist? NO! Not at all.

    As a result of a diary here yesterday and a posting at Truthout about the CIA and Tibet, my understanding of the Tibet issue has changed in the past 24 hours.

    Running to cries of racism is completely silly, I hope both you and your friend recognize this: Most Americans not of Asian descent do not see Asians of different ethnic groups as distinct races.  They are all Asian.

    Before going ballistic on this, please keep in mind the same applies to white people: ethnically, I am a Celt.  The Celts fought the Anglos for centuries in my ancestors' lands; but most modern folk think I'm an Anglo.  There's no point in crying racism where race is not the issue.

    The issue is political, and a lot of our liberal perception of the situation is, in fact, a result of CIA propaganda.  No way to say that nicely.

    But I hope your friend will reconsider and come back to be a part of the conversation.  

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    by spotDawa on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 09:54:03 AM PDT

    •  I'm working on it (2+ / 0-)

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      The prejudice is on both sides and it's hard to communicate when there is a hysteria.

      I was myself whipped up a couple of weeks ago and considered a list of "DKOS Racist Hall of Shame" but thought better of it. But it's true that a lot of the comments were not well-thought out and could be conceived as badly intentioned.

  •  Well... (1+ / 0-)

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    xgz

    They find the intolerance and in particular anti-science attitude displayed by the fundamentalists repulsive.

    It's not just Christian fundamentalists who have this view.  Most of the elected Republicans in Congress do not trust science... witness Senator Inhofe.  Bush can only spell science backwards.

    You make some persuasive arguments about the Asian American vote turning against Republicans.  But there may be a simpler explanation, which is that like many other groups today, we can see as clear as day how Bush and Republican policy has run this country into the ground.  It's not hard to see, no matter how much the GOP tries to spin us around.

    No, I would suggest that, like new young voters, and social conservatives who are economic populists, everyone is giving the Democratic Party a new look and why shouldn't they.  Can six months of Republican campaigning gloss over eight years of national misery?  I don't think so.

    Nothing is more powerful than an idea whose time has come -- Victor Hugo

    by BasharH on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 10:16:18 AM PDT

  •  Obama will be the first Asian president... (1+ / 0-)

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    xgz

    In a much bigger way than Clinton was the first Black president.  

    Not only did he live in Jakarta, he grew up in Hawai'i, where the vast majority is formed by people of Asian and part-Asian descent.  His stepsister is half-Indonesian and his brother-in-law is a Chinese-Canadian professor at the University of Hawai'i-Manoa.  Obama strongly resonates with the Asian and mixed race communities, especially those with a college education who have had any exposure to Asian Pacific Islander studies courses.  Expect him to to get in the 75-80% range.  

    If you are interested, see my diary on Obama's Hawaii background and his unique vision.

    Barack Obama -- The President we were promised as kids! -- Obama/Schweitzer '08!

    by Ruby JM on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 10:19:23 AM PDT

  •  Age factor (2+ / 0-)

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    peace voter, xgz

    The first generation immigrants who have cushy lives usually vote republican. Then there kids grow up to become progressive democratic activists.

    Does the data reflect this anecdotal evidence I've seen?

    McCain - Worse than Bush

    by MAORCA on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 10:24:16 AM PDT

    •  Yes. I had mentioned this in another comment (1+ / 0-)

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      I think this bears out in one of the surveys.

    •  I theorize (2+ / 0-)

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      it's that many immigrants come from more conservative cultures, but simply end up finding that they are "other" in this new country, and it doesn't sit well with them.

      I don't know that it's about cushy lives -- even working class immigrants can be very conservative on a range of things. Voting Republican can be a natural fit that way.

      Sometimes it's the same generation that then leaves the Republican party, disgusted, when they realize that they've been targeted.

      Examples:

      Arab Americans were definitely Republican-leaning. Until 9-11 and the Bush Administration. They now vote Dem overall.

      Latinos tend to be very conservative. Many are religious. That block has tended to split a few ways, but they've been recently lost by the Republican party over immigration. One of the few smart things that Preznit Dumb-Dumb did was try to court them as a voting block for the Republican Party.

      Likewise Koreans were lost by the Republicans after the whole "Axis of Evil" thing. My friend's Korean dad is very conservative, loved Reagan, hated Carter, meh about Clinton. But now he's gone Democrat because of Bush's attitude towards North Korea (and he's a South Korean, but it rubbed him the wrong way).

      It's screwed up, but there's something refreshing about seeing a group's prejudices bite them in the ass. If the Republican Party was even partially more inclusive, they'd have a much bigger coalition of voters than they do.

      •  That's very telling (1+ / 0-)

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        Likewise Koreans were lost by the Republicans after the whole "Axis of Evil" thing. My friend's Korean dad is very conservative, loved Reagan, hated Carter, meh about Clinton. But now he's gone Democrat because of Bush's attitude towards North Korea (and he's a South Korean, but it rubbed him the wrong way).

        That's almost exactly how the Tibet thing is playing out right now in Chinese American community. That's why we need to be careful and not use a broad brush when commenting on Tibet.

      •  I call the cushy-lives first-gen immigrants (0+ / 0-)

        "comfortably dumb."

        They really believe everything is allright with the world as long as they are doing OK.

        McCain - Worse than Bush

        by MAORCA on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 01:25:44 PM PDT

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  •  McCain's liability here... (2+ / 0-)

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    xgz, brooklynliberal

    Up until 2000, McCain was basically unapologetic about using racial slurs to refer to his Vietnamese captors.  As with his MLK holiday voting record, he has a track record of being out of touch and behind the times when it comes to racial sensitivity.

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