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Ayers and the Teflon Man

Sat Apr 19, 2008 at 05:50:14 AM PDT

Everyone knows that George Stepalloverus took talking points from Sean Hannity prior to the Worst.Debate.Ever.

Rick Ayers, brother of the Weather Underground member, Bill Ayers, had this to say on HuffPost about Hillary.

The fact that she would drag up this pathetic red herring about Obama's alleged ties to so-called terrorist Bill Ayers (my brother!) brings her right down to the level of Fox News and the National Enquirer (which also suggested that Obama had murdered his gay lover). Obama needed to call this tactic for what it is: McCarthyism. This is the most base version of McCarthyism: Did you know this communist? When were you last with this communist? Did you denounce this communist? When did you stop beating your wife?

John Ridley just wrote a very disturbing piece on HuffPost as well, where he said, "In Wednesday's debate Senator Clinton gave a preview of what to expect from conservatives come the general election should Obama take the nomination: accusations that Obama's cozy with radical liberals. There's not much the Clinton machine can do with the accusation seeing as President Clinton commuted the prison sentences of a couple of WUO members. Conservatives will try to do considerably worse, and they'll have a lot to work with."

I say disturbing because the Conservatives have nothing to work with, despite Ridley's shilling....

Ayers did bad things 40 years ago.

Ayers gave a couple hundred bucks of "support" to Obama.

Ayers and Obama sit on the board of an "organization" together.

Therefore, Obama wants to do the same 40-year-old bad things to you!

WTF?!?

Every Obama supporter should read Jeffrey Feldman's diary on the violent framingof Barack Obama. This issue will need to be addressed forcefully in the General.

The Republicants have been watching with great interest what will stick and what will not stick in the GE.

His middle name and father's religion suggest he's a Muslim.

Well, it's hard to be a Muslim if he's also got a crazy Black preacher saying, "God Damn America." :-)

What about that crazy preacher dude?

Nope, that led to one of the greatest political speeches in history. That slime didn't work.

"Bittergate"?  

Nope. People agreed with his assessment....

So what else is there?

The Republicants are really worried that nothing seems to stick on Teflon Man Obama. They may actually have to debate POLICY rather than Flag Pins, for once. :shudder:

While I know that Barack wants to stay above the fray, he's going to have to come out strong against the Republicant machine in Fall. He simply cannot allow the Republicants to plant violent frames into the American consciousness.....

Rick Ayers' advice of how to handle Clinton applies equally well with McCain. And I cannot wait until this happens in a debate.

There's only one way to confront McCarthyism. Obama should have taken a page from Joseph Welch when he confronted the red-baiting senator during the Army-McCarthy hearings. He should have said, "Senator Clinton, are you really going to go there? Do you have no shame? Until this moment, Senator, I think I never really gauged your cruelty, or your recklessness. If it were in my power to forgive you for your reckless cruelty, I would do so. I like to think I'm a gentle man, but your forgiveness will have to come from someone other than me. Have you no sense of decency, ma'am, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?" That's the kind of language that Welch used to reduce McCarthy to the sputtering idiot he was.

Tags: William Ayers, McCarthyism, Barack Obama, violent frames, Teflon Man, 2008 (all tags) :: Previous Tag Versions

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  •  Obama has said that (5+ / 0-)

    he is showing restraint because he is running against a "Democrat" (in quotes because I don't think he is running against one right now).  Against the Repubs, no such restraint will be shown by Obama.

    The Clintons are corrupt selfish race baiting zero character scumbags. I'd rather be run over by a tractor-trailer than willfully vote for any Clinton again.

    by IhateBush on Sat Apr 19, 2008 at 05:54:28 AM PDT

  •  Excellent diary (4+ / 0-)

    One thought:

    Every Obama supporter should read Jeffrey Feldman's diary on the violent framingof Barack Obama. This issue will need to be addressed forcefully in the General.

    I would argue that it is  every HRC supporter that should read said diary.

    May 6th 2008: IN Insignificance Day

    by stevej on Sat Apr 19, 2008 at 05:55:39 AM PDT

    •  I like this approach (2+ / 0-)

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      sherlyle, Virginian in Spain

      It's, like, the opposite of the typical Democratic m.o. In the past, Democrats were pretty fierce about taking each other down in primaries, but meekly submitted when Republicans called them nasty names and created distractions from the issues. Obama, meanwhile, can largely rise above the fray against Clinton and then go after McCain hard.

  •  WE need to take control and ask the questions... (2+ / 0-)

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    sherlyle, Coach Jay

    What are you (McCain) going to do to provide better healthcare for all Americans? Why have you shown no interest in the subject until this election year?

    The economy is crashing down with a whole bunch of people losing their jobs and homes. Your economic plan call for permanent massive corporate welfare. Why shouldn't we be showing you the door.

    Our civil liberties are being destroying, with Stalinist tactics like secret prisons and torture, destruction of habeas corpus and massive unregulated domestic spying. What will you do about this, and given you haven't spoken much about it yet, why  should I believe you?

    When a government violates the unalienable rights of the people, it loses its legitimacy.

    by Rayk on Sat Apr 19, 2008 at 05:57:04 AM PDT

    •  When exactly did it become accepted practice (1+ / 0-)

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      ArtfromMI

      to have hard-righties asking the questions at a Democratic debate, anyway?  Questions like, "Now that Iraq is such a success, are you going to be like the rest of the Democrats and Cut and Run"?  are outrageous.
      What if we asked them questions like, "Now that you've spent our grandchildren into poverty and seen to it we're the most hated and feared country on the planet, do you feel your work is done"?  

  •  You nailed it (1+ / 0-)

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    ArtfromMI

    with Republicans are really worried that nothing seems to stick to Teflon Obama.  They might have to debate POLICY instead of flag pins!  They know they're screwed if they have to discuss actually running a government, and "BOO"! isn't working very well right now either.  What's a neocon bent on squeezing the last dollar out of this country to do?  

  •  Obama murdered his gay lover?? (0+ / 0-)

    why hasn't this been on the news?

    Some writers have so confounded society with government, as to leave little or no distinction between them - T Paine

    by breezeview on Sat Apr 19, 2008 at 06:06:23 AM PDT

  •  It's a dumb issue... (0+ / 0-)

    ...as I don't think any reasonable person is going to accuse Obama of being a Weather Underground sympathizer. They were an ugly black eye on the face of Vietnam War opposition.

    That said, it does not speak well of Obama, UIL-Chicago, or the Woods Fund to be associated with Ayers. He's an unrepentant terrorist who avoided prison thanks to screw-ups by FBI investigators; he deserves to be treated as a pariah. One would think reasonable people would know better than to have dealings with him. The best I can say for Obama on this count is that he's not alone.

    •  reasonable person ? (0+ / 0-)

      I don't think any reasonable person is going to accuse Obama of being a Weather Underground sympathizer.

      Don't put it past them.

      The Republicants did this very successfully against Kerry. I am still struck by how they turned a war hero, who literally pulled people out of gun fire, into an unpatriotic weenie.

      Dems lose because they don't fight.

      Obama better be ready to rumble in the Fall.

  •  Ayers doing this 40 years ago is not relevant (0+ / 0-)

    What is relevant is that he is not remorseful for what he did and said he wishes he could have done more bombings. Further, this is not some friend of a friend of a friend relationship. Michelle Obama arranged panels at her university and invited both Barack and Ayers to it to speak and discuss, they both served on the same board, and Ayers held at least one campaign event at his house for Obama.

  •  The scope .... (0+ / 0-)

    of all the mundane issues that have been brought up fall into the realm of " Free Speech " . However , in this day and age of truth you would think that conscience minded journalists upholding our higher standards would seek to discern the untruths . We find that when it is in their best interests the truth is conveniently ignored .

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