STFU: Gov. Rendell Says We've Drunk the Kool-aid [UPDATE]

Completely insulting.  I expect this treatment from mydd and hillaryis44.com but a member of the Democratic Party?  Is the party really trying to bring new voters to the table or trying to shun them away?

For all of you kossacks, who were drinking the Obama/Rendell Koolaid this morning, think again.  How insulting is that?  For this asshat to sit there and say that young voters are universally drinking the kool-aid.  Like we're Jim Jones cult followers.  He just insulted 14 million voters in this country along with the candidate of their choice.  

I don't support Hillary Clinton because she voted for the WAR!!!    That disqualifies her from getting my vote against someone who was against the war, Gov. Rendell.  Plus, she's a fake phoney liar!

Seriously.  What are the Black voters drinking Gov. Rendell?  This guy is a party leader.  He's a superdelegate.   He's giving McCain talking points right now on Fox News that the eventual Democratic nominee is "just oratory".  

This is embarassing.  Shove him off the national stage.

Shame on You!  I call on Keith O. to ask Hillary to denounce and reject Gov. Rendell.

Update:
Thanks to Eve for this:  

If you're so inclined, let Gov. Rendell know why you support Sen. Obama!

Rendell's office and link to e-mail:
http://www.governor.state.pa.us/...
Phone: [phone]

•  Tips/Recs

  Hillary hangs with some shady characters.

  by Hope08 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:36:53 PM PDT

  •  My God!!!

    This is so terrible.  

    Everyone better act very offended.

    Silly stuff.

    No one will kiss your ass because you are young or middle age or old.  Get used to it.  Life is like that.  

    Young voters have a voice, and not all speak the same.  many favor Obama.  That's great.  But the constant whining about being offended just wears thin.

    by TomP on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:41:08 PM PDT

    •  You're right, TomP

      Why don't we just accept that previously disenfranchised young voters are being universally insulted by a party leader!  That's great party building.  

      You may not whine about being offended, but you're constantly whining.

      by Hope08 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:44:13 PM PDT

      •  Disenfranchised?

        Who took their vote away?

        I think the term you're looking for is lazy.

        by raatzie on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:50:26 PM PDT

        •  disillusioned.

          I guess the Blacks are lazy too, they're voting in record #'s based on the kool-aid.

          by Hope08 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:51:40 PM PDT

          •  I never said a thing about black voters.

            The Obamacon M.O.: he who disagrees . . . is a racist.

            by raatzie on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:02:16 PM PDT

            •  Clintonite M.O.

              "Everyone is calling me a racist."

              by Hope08 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:08:05 PM PDT

              •  Truth is a defense. eom.

                by raatzie on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:43:03 PM PDT

        •  Oh come on

          Is every group who traditionally hasn't voted in large numbers just lazy? Is that really what you think?

          by dawnt on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:51:54 PM PDT

          •  Lazy or apathetic. Yup. eom.

            by raatzie on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 04:50:34 PM PDT

      •  Bah. It's politics, folks. I regularly throw that

        term around about both Hillary and Obama supporters though I fall in the latter category.   Big Ed doing it ain't no thang.

        by brueso on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:51:40 PM PDT

      •  careful or TomP will call in another air strike

        from Mydd to get you.

        by AHiddenSaint on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:55:39 PM PDT

    •  A lot of the whining on this site

      seems to come from you TomP

      by smash artist on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:44:53 PM PDT

      •  lol

        A lot of the whining on this site seems to come from you TomP

        QFT.

        by tomjones on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:52:37 PM PDT

    •  Move on, Tom.

      

      by haruki on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:46:56 PM PDT

      •  Supporting a liar begets a liar?

        I guess Hillary is writing off the college educated crowd again?

        I mean how stupid does she think we are.  She says that McCain will be a better CiC than Obama and then gets indignant when Obama says ALL 3 candidates would be better than Bush

        Oh wait, she thinks we're all really stupid.

        That's the kind of candidate I want.  /golfclap

        I'll take my Ivy league education and shove it and follow my Asian immigrant mom's advice.  "Don't vote for Obama, he's black".

        I guess all that immigrant sacrifice to actually educate the kids should fall by the wayside so we can just vote for the status quo, the hypocrite, the woman who justifies her husband's affairs by blaming the other women (which according to that gender law class I took eons ago is actually anti-feminism), the repeated lies, the belittling, the negative ads, the puffery.  Don't think, just vote for Hillary and not the black dude.  It's like a cult ya know.....

        Toss those 4 degrees aside and the fact that you negotiate million dollar deals, you're just being brainwashed.  Oh, ok thanks.

        by Regenman on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:59:06 PM PDT

        •  I think Obama's wrong

          I think that McHillary would not be better than Bush.

          I don't know how Obama will turn out, but I'm willing to vote for him in the GE to give him a try.

          by alizard on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 03:31:19 PM PDT

    •  The phrase that comes to mind is . . .

      . . . boo effing hoo.

      Politics ain't beanbag.  Grow a thicker skin.

      by raatzie on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:51:05 PM PDT

      •  Rendell can crawl back into his idiot hole

        I'll be sending Casey some $$$ when he runs against him.  Politics ain't beanbag, that is the truth.

        by Hope08 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:57:05 PM PDT

        •  Another educated Obamacan.

          Rendell's term limited.

          So enjoy that primary, genius.

          by raatzie on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:58:33 PM PDT

          •  term-limited?

            there is a god!

            by fivefouranonymous on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:59:36 PM PDT

            •  if only the clintons could honor such a principle

              by fivefouranonymous on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:00:16 PM PDT

          •  Sweet!!!!

            Then he can really crawl into the hole.  

            I know, my M.D. didn't get me to far in politics...

            by Hope08 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:59:57 PM PDT

            •  If you treat your patients with the same keen eye

              . . . that you treat politics . . .

              Well, let's just say I might wish I were med-mal instead of labor and employment.

              by raatzie on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:44:23 PM PDT

              •  that makes not sense. n/t

                by Hope08 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 06:48:14 PM PDT

    •  It's not being offended...

      It's watching the governor of a large state act like an asshat--and not even an original one at that. It's the narrow-minded, short-term, obsession with personal gain that has characterized the Clinton campaign from the onset.

      It would take only a couple of micrograms of active brain tissue to craft a response that would promote his  candidate without alienating groups of potential Democratic voters. Like it or not, win or lose, the inescapable fact is that Hillary support comes from the same age groups as Bill O'Reilly--her "base" is dying off on a daily basis.

      The oligarchs of the Democratic party aren't that different philosophically from the oligarchs running this country. Both groups are preoccupied with their own immediate gratification, with no thought of the negative effects on the country as a whole.

      by Azdak on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:55:38 PM PDT

  •  Could this Redell have picked a worse analogy

    than this ? I dont think soo..First he says the students are very intelligent and his next breath says they can be had by the first flim-flam man that can read well..I mean this governor redell should be driven out of office for being a blind slobberin Hillary sycophant..STFU ! This is the snae jerk that said it was sooo great working with the #1 schmuck and wurst of the wurst of the new millenium..Rick the righteous Santorum..

    by Johnny Rapture on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:49:52 PM PDT

•  dude he's beyond fucking rude

  goodbye ed

  by Steven R on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:37:01 PM PDT

  •  Rendell's dumber than a fencepost.

    by barnowl on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:13:55 PM PDT

  •  Now that I'm watching this, he IS an ass.

    by Muzikal203 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:53:02 PM PDT

•  Does anyone like Ed Rendell?

  ... jackass of a guvnor.

  by RisingTide on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:38:38 PM PDT

  •  Hey!

    Chris Matthews has been congratulating himself every 5 mins for coming up with the brilliant idea of: Obama/Rendell '08.
    You see, Eddie'll help him with his "problem" connecting with "real voters - who go to diners".

    by newdem1960 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:40:38 PM PDT

    •  Ed Rendell is repulsive

      by lookit on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:41:26 PM PDT

      •  Perhaps Rendell should drink some kool-aid

        You know, to wash down the "stupid pills" he has been taking.

        by ford prefect 2 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:43:16 PM PDT

        •  He prefers Crown Royal n/t

           

          by Muzikal203 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:04:37 PM PDT

    •  HA!

      Tweety is seriously losing his mind.  And if he thinks he can connect with the cliche "working class white voters" that he seems obsessed with, when running for Arlen Spectors seat in 2010 he is in for a rude awakening.  Tweety is an out of touch beltway insider who has jumped the shark.

      by dehydratedcracker on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:51:36 PM PDT

      •  Wednesday the working class vote won't matter

        anymore, they'll be back on the clintons trying to win back the Black vote

        by Muzikal203 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:10:29 PM PDT

  •  And he only got elected gov. twice.

    And Philly mayor twice.

    The hyperbole machine is out in force.

    by raatzie on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:52:46 PM PDT

    •  HEY! if we can disown santorum

      let philly disown rendell...

      We clear?

      by RisingTide on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:54:07 PM PDT

•  I've been waiting for this to come out

  He said the same thing the other day. KO??? Are you watching this sh*t???

  by phoebe1st on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:38:56 PM PDT

•  Wow...

  what an asshat

  by jiordan on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:39:32 PM PDT

•  One big plus about tomorrow...

  ...regardless of the results, no more Ed on the national stage...

  by Aqualad08 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:39:34 PM PDT

  •  Why isn't this on the front page?

    Why isn't there a diary about this. Did I miss something? This is huge. When will Hillary denounce and reject his support?

    by claudew on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:55:16 PM PDT

  •  The Origin of the term "Drinking the Kool-Aid"

    I wonder how many people know why it's called "Drinking the Kool-Aid".

    I doubt Ed had this in mind, but still...

    Currently the term is mostly associated with the 1978 cult suicide in Jonestown, Guyana. Jim Jones, the leader of the Peoples Temple, convinced his followers to move to Jonestown. Late in the year, he then ordered his flock to commit suicide by drinking grape-flavored Flavor Aid laced with potassium cyanide. In what is now commonly called the "Jonestown Massacre", a large majority of the 913 people later found dead drank the brew. (source Wikipedia: Kool-Aid)

    by CarmenT on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:43:44 PM PDT

  •  Right

    He cashed in all his chips kissing Billary ass so long ago in a hope for some cabinet post. Secretary of French Fries, I think.

    by obatanga night on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:49:39 PM PDT

•  Oh, goodness.

  He is such a sad, lonely man.

  by ElizabethAM on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:40:40 PM PDT

  •  but i think i saw his hand on chelsea's

    knee the other night

    by memofromturner on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:31:10 PM PDT

•  I remember hearing a long interview...

  ...with Rendell (on Radio Times, maybe?) just after he was elected Governor, and really liking him.

  Not so much anymore. Great scorched earth job there, Governor.

  by turnover on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:40:55 PM PDT

•  "drank the Kool-Aid"...

  has totally "jumped the shark".  Can we stop using that stupid phrase?

  Besides, I never know if it is supposed to refer to Jonestown Kool-Aid or Kesey Kool-Aid

  by gooners on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:41:01 PM PDT

  •  Agreed.

    We should change beverages. "Drank the Hi-C", maybe?

    Or how's about "Drank the Capri-sun."

    by turnover on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:44:28 PM PDT

    •  No new beverage...

      unless you are mocking them.  In that case have at it.  If the phrase was taken away, they wouldn't be able to so casually and lazily marginalize voters.

      I'm not sure how to take it away, though, except by mocking them.  So.....how about smurfberry juice?

      by gooners on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:49:08 PM PDT

  •  Flavor Aid

    Supposedly they drank Flavor Aid, not Kool Aid, at Jonestown.

    by johnny rotten on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:47:28 PM PDT

    •  'Tis true. Grape Flavorade.

      The low-class Kool Aid.

      I don't know about you, but if I'm going to off myself, I want the beverage-conveyance to be the real thing.

      by turnover on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:49:27 PM PDT

      •  guess at that point...

        there's no need for crystal light.

        If they drank Flavorade, then the phrase is even stupider.  Unless it does refer to Kesey Kool-Aid.

        by gooners on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:50:34 PM PDT

  •  "Jumped the shark"

    ... has "jumped the shark."

    The new phrase is "kissed Madonna."

    Britney Spears' career peaked when she kissed Madonna at that awards show.

    by droogie6655321 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:50:06 PM PDT

    •  true...

      I was trying to reinforce the cliche-ness.

      by gooners on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:52:12 PM PDT

      •  Reinforcing cliche-ness...

        has kissed Madonna.

        Uh...

        I give up.

        by tomjones on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:55:00 PM PDT

        •  The shark kissed Madonna

          Which is, coincidentally, the code word to begin the invasion.  (Of what I cannot say.)

          by socratic on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:18:46 PM PDT

          •  if you believe that...

            you obviously drank the Kool-Aid

            by gooners on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:29:31 PM PDT

            •  Actually

              this weekend I "enjoyed" (??) a party beverage which apparently consisted of a bunch of Everclear, a case of "beer" (unnamed, despite repeated requests), and several varieties of Kool Aid mix, all thrown into a bucket, stirred, and dispensed via a spigot.  

              So, yes, I did, in fact, drink the Kool Aid.

              by socratic on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:32:40 PM PDT

              •  First rule of Obama cult:

                Never reveal the secret kool-aid ingredient to unitiates!

                bunch of Everclear, a case of "beer" (unnamed, despite repeated requests), and several varieties of Kool Aid mix

                I banish thee!

                by tomjones on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 05:42:17 PM PDT

                •  Then he should do well...

                  in Indiana County, PA.  We used to drink a bit of that in college.  Those ingredients plus some Mad Dog and a little vodka.  We used Genessee beer.

                  by gooners on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 06:03:34 PM PDT

•  Asshole

  by johnny rotten on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:41:05 PM PDT

•  Ed's the wrong guy

  to talk to this crowd.

  by lastman on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:41:06 PM PDT

•  This is how you bring the party together!

  Good job governor!

  by billysumday on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:41:18 PM PDT

•  Mmm! Cherry!!!!!! n/t

  by Its the Supreme Court Stupid on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:42:11 PM PDT

  •  Much tastier than Hillary Haterade n/t

    by la urracca on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:16:27 PM PDT

•  Rendell Hearts Reagan n/t

  by ParaHammer on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:42:41 PM PDT

  •  More than that, Rendell hearts McCain. nt

    by MAORCA on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:49:50 PM PDT

•  And he's eaten the peyote!

  by kitebro on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:43:13 PM PDT

  •  And written the New Yage Letters..From the

    governors office...The governor who says to the world : Pennsylvania Residents are Bigots and Predjudiced..rendell would make a hell of a PR rep for Mugawbee

    by Johnny Rapture on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:54:27 PM PDT

•  Kool Aid?

  Yeah, Ed.  Whatever.  I'm not the one lending support to a candidate who can't win a general election, let alone a primary.

  So fuck off, pal.

  by jre2k8 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:43:14 PM PDT

  •  Wow. So you're supporting neither candidate? eom

    by raatzie on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:54:26 PM PDT

•  He's a prick n/t

  by First Amendment on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:44:36 PM PDT

•  What they are about to do is....

  Bring a WHOLE NEW PARTY to the table if they aren't careful...Republicans too.  The 2-party system will slowly make its way out to a TRUE democratic republic.

  by NoCryingInPoltics on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:44:53 PM PDT

•  Huh?

  Are you kidding me?

  by Bill White on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:45:21 PM PDT

  •  Oh yeah

    ((youtuve dpiFyHywaRY))

    by johnny rotten on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:51:03 PM PDT

  •  Oh damn

    by johnny rotten on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:51:42 PM PDT

•  Rendell backed tolling Interstate 80 -

  which rural folks across the northern parts of PA use to get to work every day (and there is often no other viable alternative). I don't know anybody in my area who likes Rendell, anyway.

  by Marinesquire on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:46:38 PM PDT

  •  I 76 is. Why should they get a free ride? eom.

    by raatzie on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:56:10 PM PDT

•  Casey for Governor, with

  Obama getting the vote out in Philly....

  That's what I see for Rendell...

  Revenge is a dish best served with a side order of Dean.

  by Kab ibn al Ashraf on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:46:47 PM PDT

  •  I was wondering about that

    by latinadem on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:50:30 PM PDT

  •  Oh, no! What will Rendell do?

    Leave, because he's term limited.

    Another bright Obamacon.

    He is Lord.

    by raatzie on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:55:37 PM PDT

    •  So you're saying his career is already over

      unless she gets the nomination and picks him up as VP, which explains the dog whistling on his part.

      Thanks for the info about the term limit.  Obviously I'm from a small caucus state that doesn't matter, plus I'm black, which makes me matter even less as I'm not part of the Democratic base, so forgive my ignorance of PA politics.

      by Kab ibn al Ashraf on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:03:15 PM PDT

      •  No problem. It's a common trait in Obamacans. nt

        by raatzie on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 04:53:07 PM PDT

        •  You do realize that Senator Clinton's political

          career--not just this race--is over, right?

          by Kab ibn al Ashraf on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 07:09:25 PM PDT

          •  Ask me if I care. Because I don't.

            Obamacan M.O. #2: He who has not drunk the Kool Aid must be a Hill-Billy supporter.

            by raatzie on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 09:24:33 AM PDT

•  STFU

  indeed.

  by MiddleCity2000 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:48:05 PM PDT

•  Rendell loves MCCain

  I hope all the young voters out there see this.  What a slap in the face.  "They drink the koolaid"...

  by Kyman on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:48:26 PM PDT

•  I find it curious

  that anyone who thinks it's a good idea to install an AUMF voter in the presidency can accuse others of capitulation to spin.

  by GN1927 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:48:37 PM PDT

•  I'm actually surprised-but they're desperate

  Rendell has had a modicrum of restraint vs. the rest of the Clinton Goon Squad, but I guess they must really be sweating now.

  by brueso on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:49:45 PM PDT

•  Ick. I thought he was at heart a decent guy...

  I was terribly wrong. Maybe just being involved with the Clinton campaign turns people into arrogant jackasses. [shaking head]

  by Liberal Kansan on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:49:51 PM PDT

•  OK that was funny

  First the one young lady must have passed her cup to someone else, she likes McCain.

  Second the other young lady is impressed because "he pays staffers" to talk to them.

  LOL

  by LaEscapee on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:50:32 PM PDT

  •  Yes, much better to ignore college students.

    With political smarts like yours, you are destined to go places...with the Clinton campaign.

    by tomjones on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:57:39 PM PDT

    •  What is wrong with you?

      I'll never understand that just because I find dumb statements by otherwise seemingly intelligent people funny it makes me a Clinton supporter.

      Does it have anything to do with fluid intake?

      ;~)

      by LaEscapee on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:17:39 PM PDT

      •  Yes, too much kool-aid

        Ohhhhh yea.

        I wasn't really meaning to imply that you were a Clinton supporter, either, for the record. Just that your seemingly dismissive attitude would be a good fit there.

        by tomjones on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:23:27 PM PDT

  •  she raised a great point...

    what she was trying to say was that the obama campaign listens to and takes seriously the youth vote. that's why he's winning.

    by ksquire on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:00:47 PM PDT

    •  I understand

      I just find it rather funny, seemingly intelligent people respond with such dumb statements. Sick sense of humor, so sue me.

      by LaEscapee on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:19:31 PM PDT

•  Calm Down

  This primary season is winding down and unless something unusual happens Obama will be the nominee.  If it takes another couple of months, so what.  We will need Rendell's organization in the Fall.  We are going to have to reach out to Clinton supporters after this is over if we are going to win in November.  

  by Jeffrey Kohan on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:52:54 PM PDT

  •  Sure we need Rendell

    But this just proves that this guy is an idiot.  How many times in the past 2 months has his foot been in the mouth.  

    Keep him in PA until Casey can run against him.  

    by Hope08 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:55:03 PM PDT

    •  That is for

      The people of Pennsylvania to decide.  Remember Casey really is not all that Liberal.  I just think it is important to keep some perspectiove and not look to be insulted like the Clinton camp has done.

      by Jeffrey Kohan on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:59:24 PM PDT

•  Can't stand Rendell

  by mannemalon on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:53:04 PM PDT

•  not loading, what'd he say?

  by subtropolis on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:55:00 PM PDT

•  Did you notice how he interrupted her?

  How he stopped that girl mid-sentence to keep talking over her?

  by dansac on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:55:00 PM PDT

•  "they don't look beyond the oratory."

  Umm, Ed: guess what? They look at the oratory, decide they like it better than the crap being spewed by Clinton, and support the better candidate. That's all there is to it.

  by GreenMtnState on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:56:24 PM PDT

•  Better than choking down vinegar.

  by jeepdad on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:56:28 PM PDT

•  Generational

  Just ridiculous.  It is as if they do not want our generation to participate in politics.

  This kind of thing makes me sick.

  by Dalton Georgia on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:56:56 PM PDT

  •  i agree -- the "kool aid" didn't offend me...

    as much as the rest of it. did you see him cut off that young woman? Kudos to her for countering the "he's all words" myth.

    anyway, his entire approach was so patronizing.

    by ksquire on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:59:43 PM PDT

•  LOL. He's soooo talking down to them...

  LOL. Wow -- he's talking to them like they're children. This is insanity.

  "Oratory is important".

  It's too bad that Hillary doesn't understand the function of speeches. Obama is using the media much more smartly -- use speeches to do what they do well -- inspire. If you want bullet points, look them up online.

  by ksquire on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:58:12 PM PDT

•  At least he didn't say...

  they snort the kool-aid. =)

  by tomjones on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:58:33 PM PDT

•  Wow, those students must have been pissed

  the f*ck off.  He deeply insulted them.

  by Aerials on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:59:52 PM PDT

•  Where Rendell is wrong...

  is that it is not...just...young...people.

  One of our staffers here in the office was talking to one of our attorneys accross the hall.  Was talking about "she just needs to go home" and "if she were to get the nomination, nothing would change."

  And this person is decidely NOT young.  Should be Hillary's core supporter...middle-aged white woman.

  This whole debate is getting stupid.  People really want something fresh...and are realizing Hillary ain't it.

  by wmtriallawyer on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:02:28 PM PDT

•  i guess iam in some kool aid

  i just bought some 2 for $1.00 dollar.by the way what does ED Randell drink crown royal. 'THEY ALWAYS THINK THEY ARE ENTITLED TO SOME SHIT'

  by puertorock on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:02:43 PM PDT

•  Hey Kids... Look... Your smart, but...

  You see, us adults have been doing this for a long time, and to be honest, we are a little peeved that you are not playing the politics game the right way.

  As the nice reporter man said, it's your vote that's the difference between me looking like I'm a really smart Governor, or being totally embarrassed that I made a fool of myself on TV in front of my voters. None of us want that do we? I would get all grumpy and sad and it's just not fair.

  Now, I understand that you think that you are passionate. That's wonderful that you can be so dedicated at such a young age. I was your age once, so I completely understand you, but now I'm a professional politician, and take it from me: You are wrong.

  You will get your turn, right now it's my turn, my turn, my turn...

  This message has been sponsored by "KoolAid-Kids of America".

  by CarmenT on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:09:46 PM PDT

  •  Well said, CarmenT.

    As a young voter, if the Dems don't want me and Obama loses, then they can go Cheney themselves. I'm nobody's fool.

    by LightningBoalt09 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:18:12 PM PDT

•  This is about as important as "Bittergate."

  Gov. Rendell is not "an idiot." He's using a phrase specifically intended to make bandwagon-jumpers think twice, to challenge their assumptions. This is called "politicking."

  Don't like it? Find it insulting? Don't vote for his candidate. Feigning outrage over imaginary slights is something we should leave to the Republicans - it fits them better.

  by Orange County Liberal on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:14:31 PM PDT

  •  If you say so...

    The totality of my experience of Rendell from his comments about a black candidate not being able to win PA, through his comments about Faux News being fair and balanced, to young voters drinking the koolaid leaves me to believe that he's an idiotic politician.  He does not represent the Democratic party well with these statements.

    by Hope08 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:18:20 PM PDT

•  Really classy, Ed...

  Wait... is that Ed Rendell talking to Frank Luntz on Fox News, talking about who drank the Kool-Aid? And then what does he go on to say... John McCain, profile in courage, for a Senate vote?!

  Sorry Ed, there's no Kool-Aid left -- you drank it all!

  by pb on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:15:08 PM PDT

•  Slams Obama, PRAISES McCain!!

  OMG!!

  by Paladine on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:15:43 PM PDT

•  I called Gov Rendell's office

  to say that his comments were insulting and that I'm a 63 year old woman living in Houston, a Democratic pct chair and an election judge and why I support Obama.

  And why perhaps it is he and Hillary and Bill Clinton who have been drinking the kool-aid

  Rendell's office and link to e-mail:
  http://www.governor.state.pa.us/...

  Phone: [phone]

  by eve on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:18:28 PM PDT

•  He's robbing them of hope.

  Is this a leader? Someone who attempts to tell youth they are under the influence for believing in Obama? Believing things CAN change? He is repulsive.

  by Paladine on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:20:50 PM PDT

•  I'm not a violent person, but I'd love to

  punch him in the face.  

  by Into The Stars on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:24:30 PM PDT

•  Hillary Clinton must Reject and Denounce

  Ed Rendell. Hillary's chair in PA - praising Farrakhan

  by AHiddenSaint on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:24:59 PM PDT

•  Rendells is like a dinosaur that somehow became

  re-intergrated and climbed out of a fukin primordial tar pit..I have been off rendells evur since he said that he wurked well with Rick "Santoromous" Santorum ! One of the great days in American history was when Santorum was handed his lunch and was kicked in the ass and judged to be brain dead and yet he walks and he talks..Here's anuther one for the fire boys..Might need a stake, mallet, holy water, garlic..They are all messed up..I'm gonna go rustle me a up a big pitcher of Kool Aid and put on some Polka Musik, its a Pennsyvania thing..Frankie Yankovic ruled the polka wurld..Grab your babbushka honey, we gonna roll out the barrel for Obama tomorrow...with this one caveat..Obama must swear, swear nevur, nevur to bowl again...The "Bus" he aint..It's a Burgh thang..Love dem oldies.Sho bop do bop..Where was I, more Kool Aid..Did the pope leave yet

  by Johnny Rapture on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:31:01 PM PDT

•  Governor Rendell Praises Farrakhan and N.O.I.

  by First Amendment on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:47:56 PM PDT

•  Aw, I kind of feel sorry for him.

  He like a cranky old grandpa who just can't get his head around what's happening 'Listen here, young'ins. Obama's no good! Hill's yer gal.' Heh.

  He sounds like a throw back to another era talking to those students and he knows it, hence his characteristic, erm, bluntness.  

  by ahania on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:48:37 PM PDT

•  he was on a roll...

  He also insulted La Salle University. The "it doesn't matter if you go to Penn or La Salle...". What an arrogant son-of-a-bitch.

  The fat bastard was on a Philly sports talk show this afternoon (WIP 610AM) with host Howard "The King" Eskin. Both were bashing Obama and talking about how great Hillary is with her vast experience. Rendell was saying shit like, "if you needed surgery would you go to a doctor with 6 years experience or 30 years?". I was like, "then why aren't you supporting Vice President Cheyney instead of Hillary?!??!". Our current Vice President has a whole heckuva lot of experience.

  Ed Rendell,...I am going to make you,... THINNER !!!!!!

  by The Mort Man on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:59:23 PM PDT

•  Write in!

  I wrote an email to his office at the URL posted in the blog. This man must come to realize how powerful we actually are.

  They always said we'd have our turn, now that it's here they're scared and trying to stop us. Screw them.

  by EvilNiceBoy on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 03:57:28 PM PDT