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Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes?

Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:05:30 PM PDT

Warning! Not a candidate diary! Crossposted (with pictures... ooh...) at Ich Bin Ein Oberliner.

The New York Times's Saturday revelation (here) that The Pentagon was directing the messages of network and cable news's military analysts was a bombshell. It was evidence that our government, and, in particular, our military was deliberately and deviously propagandizing the nightly news.

Trust me; there's more just over the fold.

As Glenn Greenwald pointed out here, no one in the news media cares. He writes:

And now we have what is by all metrics a huge new story regarding more fundamental media failures (at best), and they collectively invoke the Kremlin-like methods of Dick Cheney--they refuse to comment, refuse to reveal even the most basic facts about what they did, and do everything possible to hide behind the wall of secrecy they maintain. They don't even feel the slightest bit obligated to say whether they have any procedures to prevent manipulation of this sort in the future. And those classic information-suppressing tactics are all being invoked by news organizations--which claim to be devoted to disclosing, not concealing, scandals, corruption and facts about how our political institutions function. [Emphasis his]

I would call this chilling and shameless silence Orwellian, but why bother? Once there's a reality show on network TV that appropriates a concept for its name, that concept has lost it's power. Once we've already called Orwellian the indefinite and extra-judicial holding of U.S. citizens, the un-checked kidnapping or "extraordinary rendition" of U.S. citizens, the use of above-the-law mercenaries (euphemism: contracters) to torture others in our name, that word has lost it's power.

So, I ask the question Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Who watches the watchmen?)

Writer Alan Moore asked that very question in his novel Watchmen. It was through the question, not answering it, that he created such a groundbreaking piece of fiction. Similarly, I will not answer my question (the answer, if you're wondering, is "we do"). Instead, I will try to explore the question.

Our media has failed us. If you've been watching the news at all this last month, then you've seen a narcissistic media obsessed with questions of bowling scores and drink preferences, generation-old domestic terrorists and generation-old domestic blowhards. What we haven't seen is coverage of the things that matter. We haven't seen much coverage of our President's knowledge and permission of his highest aids determining just how long we could waterboard a person. How long we could deprive him of sleep. How long we could put him in stress positions. How long and how often we could torture him.

Yes, the media failed us. Most evidently in last week's farcical debate (hereand here, for examples), most destructively in its embracing of a narrative that portrays Democratic men as effete, elite, foppish faggot" (to quote Ann Coulter) and Democratic women as castrating, emasculating Lady Macbeths. Meanwhile the same media fawns at the feet of America's most notorious warmongers; "Talk about a warrior," Brian William's said--barely able to contain the his drool as he stared adoringly at John McCain's curmudgeonly visage.

This is our media. These, the erstwhile watchers of our watchmen. But there will be no more Pentagon Papers, no more Deep Throats. Important media revelations, these days, are about lapel pins and haircuts.

Alan Moore, in Watchmen, created a world with men who would be Gods. Extra-judicial superheros, determined to protect us from ourselves. It is one of these  watchers--custodians of our safety--who, in end, kills millions to bring us peace.

And President Bush--a man whose power certainly gives him more claim to the title God then most alive today--will torture us to save us. Deceive us to keep us safe. Who watches the watchmen?

Alan Moore ends Watchmen on a particularly relevant note. Veidt, the superhero/murderer, just wiped New York from the face of the Earth to save us all. He asks fellow superhero Jon:

Veidt: I did the right thing, didn't I? It all worked out in the end.

Jon:"In the end?" Nothing ends, Adrian. Nothing ever ends.

What could be more true for President Bush's ends-justify-the-means policies? There is no end. Torture is torture. Propaganda is propaganda. There is no end to reach. The world just keeps going (we hope). The end was good: Saddam is gone! But that isn't really the end, is it? Our soldiers are still dying. The Iraqi people still live with fear and death in their homes and neighborhoods. The end was good: We put away bad people! But that isn't really the end, is it? We have become a symbol for superpowers gone bad. Camp X-Ray is the new Gulag. The end was good: The people support the war! But that isn't really the end, is it? Those retired generals and soldiers, those military experts have become shills for The Pentagon. Our government has set a precedent for secret propaganda on its own people. Who knows where this will lead us? To another disastrous war, perhaps?

On the eve of Pennsylvania's presidential primary, after a week of further media inanity, I want to suggest something. The real question isn't who our watchman (or watchwoman) is--who are president is. The real question will be our watcher or watchman--what is the state of our democracy and our democratic institutions. Certainly, our choice of president is important--extremely important. But for me, tonight, I am more concerned with the strength our cultural-political fabric. I fear it frays. I fear the media is just a tattered old thing.

So I ask, Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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  •  Tip Jar (12+ / 0-)

    Any Alan Moore fans out tonight?

    "Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something." -the last words of Pancho Villa

    by Shef on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:05:58 PM PDT

  •  My turn, my turn! (2+ / 0-)

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    Shef, SciVo

    Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges!

    (It's on in about four hours on Spike TV lol.)

    All jest aside, though, you really can counter/reply your Latin maxim with my own. Mine would really be the Republican answer...or more like the Democratic lament.

    =/

    I've got no answer for you sadly, other then my pop culture reply.

    •  Ha! (1+ / 0-)

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      SciVo

      Maybe Spike TV's getting a little political. :)

      I've got no answer for you sadly, other then my pop culture reply.

      Unfortunately, I don't have an answer for me. All I can do--all any of us can do--is poke and prod and hope. Oh, and vote and donate, too...

      Best.

      "Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something." -the last words of Pancho Villa

      by Shef on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:14:37 PM PDT

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      •  I think (1+ / 0-)

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        Shef

        DS9's always been the most political. If the almighty quazi-utopian Federation (no crime, no poverty, no war,) still has a need for a segment that operates outside the watchers of the law, what can we do, 300 years in the past?

        Sometimes, lessons need to be learned harshly and painfully, with a sincere jolt, to stop aggression such as this.

      •  sorry I got here so late (0+ / 0-)

        and a big thank you to the rescue rangers.

        And thank God for Glenn Greenwald, one of the watchmen.  He was one of the first bloggers I found online after screaming too many times at the teevee, knowing I was being snowed but didn't know the truth either.  I seem to be one of many thousands who have turned to the internet to get my truth.

        Glenn has been hounding the media relentlessly, with excellent arguments.  But we also have to be vigilant.

        And the fact that your diary had to be rescued, and still only has 20 comments, seems to lend truth to the fact that we still need more watchmen.  This site has turned into an echo chamber of silly season silliness and the good diaries are lost in the mix.

        We really can't take back our country until we take back the media.  Thank you for writing this.

        Republicans: Your history has earned you a new mantra: "War and waste." ~~ Marta Jorgensen (CA-24 in '08)

        I am an Edwards Democrat!

        by Scubaval on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 02:25:48 PM PDT

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  •  The media in tatters, burning in the oil barrells (1+ / 0-)

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    along with the constitution, warming the hands of vagabond intellectuals, a la farhenheit 451.  It was a pleasure to burn...

    Hey, I'm depraved on account of I'm deprived! Dear Officer Krupke..

    by bryker on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:12:14 PM PDT

  •  my compliments to the shef :) (2+ / 0-)

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    Hey, I'm depraved on account of I'm deprived! Dear Officer Krupke..

    by bryker on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:14:28 PM PDT

  •  ever since I became a dad I have an (1+ / 0-)

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    uncontrollable reflex for awful puns...Cool quotient gone.

    Hey, I'm depraved on account of I'm deprived! Dear Officer Krupke..

    by bryker on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:17:25 PM PDT

  •  Just Reread Naomi Wolf's "The End of America" (2+ / 0-)

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    ... actually I like your essay better (it's shorter!).  But her letter and your essay together are so discouraging.  Of course the fabric is torn and those plan to rip it apart are as strong as ever.  The debates are all about lapel pins, and no one is defending democracy from it's foes in government and corporate america.  Boy are we in trouble.  I don't take any solace from either of the democratic candidates, nor do I take solace from the process.  Actually, I don't take any solace at all!

    •  Thank You! (1+ / 0-)

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      It is disheartening.

      The good thing is that we have sites like this one that help build up a progressive media inferstructure.

      "Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something." -the last words of Pancho Villa

      by Shef on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:31:47 PM PDT

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  •  Your title (2+ / 0-)

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    Shef, mommyof3

    reminded me of the DOJ official who pled guilty in the Abramoff affair

    Those who hear not the music-think the dancers mad

    by Eiron on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:18:04 PM PDT

  •  Our System is Designed for the Media to Work This (3+ / 0-)

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    way, designed and built. That is, all their abhorrent behavior up to the point of the military propaganda.

    And that, by the way, must be the least breaking news in the country, since the Pentagon itself announced it would be doing this around 6 years ago.

    There's an argument that this constitutes a government infringing freedom of the press, but it doesn't matter at this time. As you note, the media are not going to complain because it's extremely good for their business. There's probably nobody who'd be granted standing by our long-stacked courts to sue over it, and since the offenders (the Executive) are the only ones who can prosecute federal crimes, and they don't do that, there's probably no option there either.

    We already need Constitutional amendment(s) to rectify the astronomical blunder of the framers that concentrated all law enforcement into the Bush Branch. They understood the threat of putting all war powers there and broke those up. We need to do something analogous so that we stop the next criminal presidency.

    We need to at least begin to recognize how disastrous our system's relationship to communication is, and begin thinking of communication rights and obligations that allow the people to speak and debate in the super-corporate global information age.

    Till then it's stupid to gripe about media businesses behaving exactly as our system is designed for them to behave. The problem is system design, and it's our duty given us by the framers to recognize when a part of it is outmoded and needs updating.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:19:17 PM PDT

    •  Interesting argument ... (1+ / 0-)

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      I don't think I've seen this argued this way before.  For sure we have a structural problem.  Thanks for the thoughts.

    •  that's a really interesting point (0+ / 0-)

      I don't think I've ever thought about that as a systemic flaw.

      I will say, however, that the meida hasn't (1) always been vapid and irresponsable; it wasn't during Watergate, for example, and (2) there are some media agents who get things right, Keith Olbermann, for example, and the writer of the article.

      Nevertheless, I agree that the media isn't the only institution that needs change, and your approach is certainly something to consider.

      I don't know about it being stupid, though. After all, the conservatives were able to bully the media into stenography (obviously, that's simplistic, but they were a factor) and we can bully--or nudge--the media back towards responsability. Media Matter, Greenwald, Digby, Crooks & Liars, Jon Stewart/Stephen Colbert have all done work like that. And, to some degree, it's working.

      "Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something." -the last words of Pancho Villa

      by Shef on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:30:03 PM PDT

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    •  You are on to something , Goose (1+ / 0-)

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      Remember the people in charge have private jets and can go to Paraguay or Dubai or Singapore or St Moritz or London or Houston, if needed. Unlike Bush, who is a junior player in this league, they visit Riyadh and dozens of other places where the players are.

       They have already given upon America. They move their money around, even Cheney picked up a quick 10 million betting on the dollar to lose value against the "basket currencies" that are an index for Saudia Arabian light crude,landed in US ports.

       The consolidation of legal power under the thumb of the executive branch is complete. Gonzalez was a flunkey and as pathetic a place holder and apologist for the intrigues of Rove and Cheney as there has been in many many years.

       WJ Clinton helped by allowing the expansion of the networks and defacto monopoly power in the TV/radio
      /cable fields. The Bush White House simply ordered the Justice Department not to prosecute anti trust or monopoly cases. That blinding and deafening and dumbing down of America has been aided encouraged
      and abetted by some Democrats, unfortunately.

       Be interesting to ask candidates where they stand on media consolidation, anti trust and  the FCC/Net neutrality.  But even more important,it is for us to demand these two critical areas that are holes in the fabric of our Republic, our union be patched or sorted out and fixed consistent with the needs of this century.  Moving the Justice department to an independent status, and terms of office  that overlaps, rather than is beholden to a President.

       The media is lost to us until the monopoly and concentrations of infotainment syndicates (the five biggies) are broken up. It is worse for us than the old Seven Sisters oil monopoly of the 1900-1920 era, the grandmother of the most powerful cartel now existing in the world.

      John McCain: a survivor, not a hero. Just ask his first wife. He had his chance to be a hero and blew it.

      by Pete Rock on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 10:09:20 PM PDT

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  •  We have to watch... (1+ / 0-)

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    Shef

    the watchmen... and it is a shame...

    Our country can survive war, disease, and poverty... what it cannot do without is justice.

    by mommyof3 on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:26:49 PM PDT

  •  The media are whores... & that's ok. We are in a (2+ / 0-)

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    transition period as to its nature and players.  They are increasingly (and almost completely now) owned by mega-corps who see them as nothing more than cash-generating segments of an enterprise who's only goal is cash generation (and thus preserving the economic and poltical status-quo). Their employees - putative 'journalists' - are selected and act - 'report' - to further this end.  

    They are well-bought, well-kept and well-rewarded for doing exactly what they do - make our politics and governance insipid, vapid and feckless, and our citizenry easily lead zombie consumers.

    But this is a symptom of the present media - centralized TV 'networks' - reaching the sunset of its life.  How long it will take until some web outlet(s) to becomes the new 'CBS Reports' is anyone's guess.  Until then, the dying dinosuar can - and unfortunately will - do a lot of damage.

    •  I'd venture to say that some web outlets (0+ / 0-)

      have already gone "CBS, ABC, FOX" as far as political news goes.  Truthseekers will know the truth when they see it, such as Greenwald's always excellent blog.

      Republicans: Your history has earned you a new mantra: "War and waste." ~~ Marta Jorgensen (CA-24 in '08)

      I am an Edwards Democrat!

      by Scubaval on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 02:32:30 PM PDT

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  •  perhaps the flip side of this ... (2+ / 0-)

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    ..is that people like Murdoch and McCombs and others will soon be holding assets that are not worth what they paid for them.

    Sometimes we cannot fix things, cannot fix the massive holes on the highway o' life.  We simply create new venues parallel to the old ones.

    It's happening right here, right now, on the internet.  Americans are getting the answers they crave despite the quacks in the media.  In each citizen are stories, millions of stories and experiences, to be shared.  Bushies can shred the evidence but they cannot erase all the people trails that lead back to their feet.

    It wasn't the military running the propaganda scam on Americans.  These men were lobbyists for the military industries.  Rumsfeld was a civilian politician, not a military actor.  Nothing these politicians accomplished involved strengthening our military.  One might even argue that their efforts crippled our military.

    As for the bushies -- it was obvious to me in 2000 that with the selection of Dick Cheney, already a fossil, that these guys had no plans to stick around after their term expired.  None of them had a political stake in the future.  While Karl Rove and Grover Norquist crowed about the death of the Democratic party, it was the Bush cabal selling out their own Republican party and leaving it bankrupt.

    They created a power pyramid by parking incompetent people in positions all throughout the administration.  This ensured that no one -- and I mean NO ONE -- would have autonomy of office/position.  Worked like a charm.

    We won't be seeing these people like Murdoch, McCombs, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, etc .. much longer.  They are victims of their own rotten successes.  

    Take heart.  We learned in spite of them, not because of them.  And that's pretty darn special in my book. We are the watchers.  And we are not asleep.

    Great diary!  I wish I had seen it earlier to recommend and tip!  

    It is easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them. Alfred Adler

    by Quicksilver2723 on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 12:09:31 AM PDT

    •  asdf (2+ / 0-)

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      Sometimes we cannot fix things, cannot fix the massive holes on the highway o' life.  We simply create new venues parallel to the old ones.

      That's why I love the blogosphere. Thanks, Quicksilver.

      "Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something." -the last words of Pancho Villa

      by Shef on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 12:14:35 AM PDT

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