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Hillary needed to win big. She did not.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:30:38 PM PDT

This is a fact.

Most of us knew that Obama was going to lose PA.  But his numbers are wonderful.  I was nervous that it was going to be 20+ for Hillary.  I grew up in PA and he did well there.

So do not be discouraged.  Hillary needed to win big and she did not.  How long have we been hearing that she was ahead in double digits?  Wasn't it just last month that she was up +26 in the polls?  Obama came in and whittled it down to the numbers we see here.  No matter how they spin it, she failed yet again.

Just keep on doing what you have been doing.  Donate, make phone calls and believe in the 'YES WE CAN'.  Don't let the TV pundits get you all hot and bothered.  In fact, turn off the TV, read a book, go to the movies, out to dinner or whatever it is that you do to relax.  Because Obama is going all the way to the General Election and will beat McCain.  Oh yes, he will.

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  •  I log on, and everyone's sad about an 8pt loss? (3+ / 0-)

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    JVolvo, Gemina13, soms

    Isn't that a good thing anymore?

    A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
    - Calvin

    by iconoclastic cat on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:32:30 PM PDT

  •  I know!!! (2+ / 0-)

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    JVolvo, wyvern

    This night has been FABULOUS.

    MS-01 is going to a RUNOFF!!!! Do you know how ridiculous that is?

    Freakin sweet! The GOP now will have to spend almost a coool million to fend off a Dem in an R +10.

    Obama's within 8.

    Great stuff...

    Obama/Schweitzer '08

    by jkennerl on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:35:05 PM PDT

  •  World of Warcraft (3+ / 0-)

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    Janeo, JVolvo, happymisanthropy

    That's what we should start calling The Media.

    "Many a small thing has been made large by the right kind of advertising."
    ~~ Mark Twain

    by Ddeele on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:35:35 PM PDT

  •  Will Hillary drop out now? (2+ / 0-)

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    JVolvo, countmein

    After picking up a whoppping 8 delegates in PA, will Hillary show some class and drop out now?

    •  I think there's a shot (2+ / 0-)

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      JVolvo, Wisteacher

      With philly suburbs not even reporting yet I think it's possible to knock the margin down to around 6%.

      When it gets closer to NC/IN and she sees what's in store, I think she may give it up rather than be humiliated out.  The pundits will not be kind to her in the coming days when they realize that she has no end game and Obama SDs start coming out.

      •  My precinct went Obama 76%, Clinton 24% (0+ / 0-)

        and I am in Mongtomery County, a crucial county that neighbors Philly. But I must say, Obama's campaign blew it in our area. The reason we did so well is because we broke from the campaigns plan and worked our polls the way we traditionally do. Other polls in my area with the same demographics and similar turnout went Obama 51%, Clinton 49% and Obama 49.5%, Clinton 50.5%. My district was a wash because of the campaigns crappy endgame.

        PUMA = Petty Unforgiving Misguided A$$holes!

        by Kelly of PA on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 08:09:25 PM PDT

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  •  She has no reasonable chance for the nomination. (1+ / 0-)

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    countmein

    Its not even in question.

    She only has an unreasonable chance.

    •  If the PA margin stays at 8-10% ... (2+ / 0-)

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      JVolvo, Wisteacher

      she barely even has an UNreasonable chance.  She's running out of states in which to close the gap.  As I've said before, if your team is behind by 10 runs in the bottom of the 9th inning with a runner on third base, you don't celebrate if your team sacrifices the runner in, you fire the manager, because although he's reduced the margin of victory, his team's chances of winning the game just got substantially worse.

      "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security." -Ben Franklin

      by leevank on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:53:20 PM PDT

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  •  tip jar for a tauren resto druid (1+ / 0-)

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    Wisteacher
  •  Spin, spin, spin, she's spun out!! (0+ / 0-)

  •  that's pretty dumb (1+ / 0-)

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    JVolvo

    So I guess that you could say even though the Giants won the game on points, the Patriots really won the game because they were noble, pure, and dedicated. Narrrrvvgh.
    You would think the Democrats might get the hint that Hillary is not the right choice because Fox and the right-wingnuts on radio are not-so-obviously cheering on any surge Clinton has, and doing even more than their usual unnnecessary roughness on Obama when he's up.

    "Ain't no time to wonder why - WHOOPEE! We're all gonna die!"

    by fourthcornerman on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:44:38 PM PDT

  •  Keep spinning. Obama got crushed. (1+ / 0-)

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    JVolvo

    He outspent Hillary 4-to-1 and still couldn't reach a striking distance to make a difference.

    Only in an alternate universe an 8 point win is considered small. I am not ready to accept these types of odds against McCain in November.

    Militant Agnostic. I don't know and neither do you.

    by cioxx on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:46:46 PM PDT

    •  :) (1+ / 0-)

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      Patricia Bruner

      Umm...I am glad that he did.  Hillary is very well known.  How could this guy from Ill come and be so in numbers to her in a state like PA?

      Nah...she needed to win big.

      For the Horde!  Umm I mean...

      YES WE CAN!!

    •  The spending was to drain Hillary's campaign (1+ / 0-)

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      JVolvo

      PA shall be Hillary's high water mark. Her last hurrah.

      If Barack Obama drew a line in the sand and Harry Reid stepped across it, then what?

      by Bill White on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:57:22 PM PDT

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    •  Hillary Started a Mile Ahead and he nearly beat (1+ / 0-)

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      Patricia Bruner

      her. She has name recognition and for 16 years and he came really close in 16 months. I'd call that an awesome peformance. She had the MSM behnd her and he pulled his punches. Do you want to hear about the blue dress? Whitewater? Her husbands pardons? Her using Reverand Wright to cover Bills ass when he got caught with his pants down? etc etc etc. She has boatloads of shit that has not been unloaded on her. Holding on by her fingernails is not a particularly impressive performance.

    •  That's nice for her. (1+ / 0-)

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      JVolvo

      So, how does Clinton win the nomination now by the way?

    •  Considering she had 20 points over him (1+ / 0-)

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      JVolvo

      recently, clearly she's hemorrhaging voters to Obama.  The longer she drags this out, the more supporters she loses.  It's quite clear to any rational person.

      And I think you're actually a rational person, which is why you're so frightened tonight.  8 points is NOTHING LIKE what you needed.  We all know it.  It's just a question of when you accept it, now.

    •  as kos pointed out: she was up 19 points (0+ / 0-)

      six weeks ago.  
      Move the goal posts much?
      How is losing 9 to 11 points of that lead in a 'must win, make or break, do or die, firewall' state a good thing for her?

      At best she picks up 15 delegates and 180,000 votes.
      And she's tapped out.  Broke.  No primary cash left.

      So she's cut his lead to 130 delegates and 500K votes, and this was the Last Big State?And Barack will regain all he's "lost" tonight in N Carolina alone?
      She's trading field goals late in the 4th quarter while she's down by 17.

      Wake Up!  She cannot catch him, period.
      Each state passed makes her odds that much steeper.
      We'll end up with Wolfson spinning "if she takes Puerto Rico with 200% of the vote, multiply the delegate count by the triple word score, use all 7 letters for + 50 and then hit the Daily Double..."

      She.Still.Can't.Catch.Obama.
      But she sure can knife him in the ribs for McSame.
      Is that really the best you can hope for?
      Which side are you on?

      Bottled hot water for dehydrated babies? WTF?!

      by JVolvo on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 09:23:24 PM PDT

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  •  I'm so disappointed in PA. (0+ / 0-)

    Big win or not, Hillary won because a majority of Democrats in that state either believed her lies, deception, and pandering, or they honestly believe she is standing with them.  I know the latter is not true.  I am so dissappointed in PA tonight.  

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