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Hoover played role in current economic crunch

Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 08:34:30 PM PDT

When it comes to the Great Depression, Herbert Hoover probably gets a bad rap. The fact that he shares a surname with W.H. "Boss" Hoover, whose eponymous firm helped popularize the vacuum cleaner, has only further cemented his reputation as an economic scapegoat. (We had a Hoover in the White House and the economy sucked!)

But however clean Hoover’s hands may be when it came to the stock market crash of 1929, there’s no getting around the fact that he helped pave the way for the current economic downturn.

How did it all go so wrong? Some history is in order.

Before becoming the nation’s chief executive, Hoover had accrued a portfolio of progressive credentials that would have had members of today’s Republican Party frothing at the mouth. For one thing, he specifically spoke out against the free-market philosophy that helped contribute to the worst economic times the United States has ever known.

In fact, as Secretary of Commerce in the Harding and Coolidge administrations, Hoover promoted the idea of government intervention in the economy as part of the Efficiency Movement.

John McCain, meet a real maverick.

By the time Hoover entered public life, he already had demonstrated personal bravery and professional competence –- two traits which place him head and shoulders above  members of the current administration. Trapped in China during the Boxer Rebellion, Hoover once risked his life to rescue some Chinese children.

Hoover’s concern for his fellow man continued during World War I.  He headed the Committee for Relief in Belgium. His capable action there, and later, as chief of the American Food Administration made him a hero across the globe. He was so competent, in fact, that when the Mississippi River flooded in 1927, the governors of six states asked for Hoover by name.

Health units organized by Hoover succeeded in eliminating malaria, pellagra, and typhoid fever from many flood-stricken areas.

Imagine if Hoover had been in the Bush administration after Hurricane Katrina. The president might have said, "Heckuva job, Hoovie," and meant it.

Alas, Hoover’s term as president was not to be as distinguished.  Fear factored into the election of 1928. Somehow, it always seems to when Republicans win. In this case, the Catholicism of Democrat Al Smith sent many voters to the GOP.

Then the bottom fell out of the stock market, and Hoover’s economic ideology betrayed him.

Throughout his public life, Hoover had pushed the idea that government and business should work cooperatively to solve problems. It was a strategy that had worked well in the past.

"I suppose I could have called in the Army to help," he said regarding the 1927 flood, "but why should I, when I only had to call upon Main Street."

One of Hoover’s first responses to the Depression was to ask employers to keep workers on the payroll. But most firms were unable or unwilling to keep paying workers for that amount of time.

Many of the tools that Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s administration used to combat the Depression were tried first by Hoover, albeit on a smaller scale. It seemed that Hoover couldn’t grasp the enormity of the problem confronting him.

But what role did Hoover play in the current economic mess?

It happened while he was serving as Commerce Secretary. Hoover worked with bankers and the savings and loan industry to promote a newfangled financial instrument called the long-term home mortgage.

The rest, as they say, is history. Aided and abetted by today’s conservative mantra of deregulation, the once-benign mortgage industry now stands at the center of the current financial crisis. "Liars’ loans," subprime mortgages and dubious investment packages have spread financial woe into such diverse segments as plastic surgery, truck sales and retail sales.

But remember. It’s not a Hoover thing. It’s a Republican thing.

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  •  Herbert Hoover. Worst President ever. (1+ / 0-)

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    Until Chimpy.

  •  What an interesting diary (9+ / 0-)

    thank you.  Hoover, while definitely not a great president, truly was a more interesting non-president.  His actions during the 1927 flood were actually quite remarkable -- much more effective than FEMA (I know, not saying much.)  I actually gained respect for the man reading "The Rising Tide."  Now you have inspired me to read more -- even though that wasn't the point of your diary.

    My faith in the Constitution is whole, it is complete, it is total. Barbara Jordan 1974

    by gchaucer2 on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 08:44:38 PM PDT

    •  there are some very bright (2+ / 0-)

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      people who simply aren't equipped to be President, especially if they're in the wrong place at the wrong time. Hoover was one of those people, and IMO, Carter was another.

      Hoover's heritage lives on in the "Little Hoover Commissions" existing in state governments all over the country, inspired by the prototype Hoover Commission which was created to find inefficiency and waste in the Federal Government and figure out what to do about it.

      Then, there's the Hoover Institution at Stanford, about which the best that can be said is that Hoover died 34 years ago and I'm fairly dubious that it's morphing into a wingnut think tank (i.e. propaganda factory) really reflects whatever Hoover had in mind when he founded it.

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      by alizard on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 01:54:45 AM PDT

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  •  It wasn't that Hoover did not "grasp the enormity (3+ / 0-)

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    ...Hoover was the LAST non-imperial President.

    He believed that the Executive branch was less important than the Legislative branch. (That is how the Founding Fathers meant it to be).

    Thus, he did not believe that he had the authority as President to do the things necessary to manipulate the economy.

    F.D.R., for all the good he did in relieving the suffering of Americans, overstepped the boundaries of the Constitution and paved the way for the Imperial Presidency that has so sadly been used to do such harm by George W. Bush.

    Hoover was a good man...a good Quaker man.  He might be rightly considered the last President of the American Republic.

    Try as you might, you cannot spell HOPE with the letters GOP.

    by David Kroning on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 09:09:16 PM PDT

  •  Hoover gets a bad rap (3+ / 0-)

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    As you point out in your diary, Hoover did some of the things that Roosevelt did, just on a smaller scale.  At the time the "true" free market crowd was howling at him for it.

    Roosevelt, too, did not help the Depression much.  But he was a much better leader.  He was inspiring.  His "Fireside chats" were brilliant.  He tried different things, even though many of them didn't work.  People felt like he cared and was trying, so they rallied around him.  That really is an important quality.

    And thanks for the information about Hoover and mortgages.  I had no idea.

    •  it was long after the fact before (0+ / 0-)

      anyone realized what caused the Great Depression Basically, the Richistani of the time sucked up so much wealth out of the national economy that nobody below them had enough money to spend to support a consumer-driven economy. Sound familiar?

      It's a bit hard to cure a problem when one is clueless about its origins. In the meantime, WPA and other Federal relief programs kept a whole lot of people from starving before WWII brought an unwanted kind of good times to the USA.

      As for "long-term" fixed-rate mortgages, they worked just fine between the end of WWII and the invention of ARM and sub-prime mortgages in putting roofs over the heads of the new middle class.

      What really turned the housing market into a disaster? Nobel Prize-winning economist Stiglitz says it was Bush's attempt to finance the Iraq War off-the-books through the manipulation of the credit markets (the invention of sub-prime and ARMs were part of this picture), and I find his opinion more credible than that of an anonymous blogger.

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      by alizard on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 02:23:46 AM PDT

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  •  Well it's kind of a Democratic thing too (4+ / 0-)

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    after all Bill Clinton cheerfully signed the repeal of the Glass-Steagal act.

    http://www.pbs.org/...

    You heard Senator Gramm characterize this bill as a victory for freedom and free markets. And Congressman LaFalce characterized this bill as a victory for consumer protection. And both of them are right. And I have always believed that one required the other.

    It is true that the Glass-Steagall law is no longer appropriate to the economy in which we lived...

    This will, first of all, save consumers billions of dollars a year through enhanced competition. It will also protect the rights of consumers. It will guarantee that our financial system will continue to meet the needs of underserved communities...

    -- Bill Clinton on signing the repeal of the Glass-Steagal act, which set the stage for banks to rape America

    (Just about every one of these bullshit statements by Clinton on the signing of a Republican-loved bill, ends up proving to be utterly false. It's depressing but illuminating to read some of them, such as the one for the 1996 "Telecom Reform Bill"...)

    •  Clinton also signed off complete deregulation of (1+ / 0-)

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      derivatives.

      A milestone in the deregulation effort came in the fall of 2000, when a lame-duck session of Congress passed a little-noticed piece of legislation called the Commodity Futures Modernization Act. The bill effectively kept much of the market for derivatives and other exotic instruments off-limits to agencies that regulate more conventional assets like stocks, bonds and futures contracts.

      Supported by Phil Gramm, then a Republican senator from Texas and chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, the legislation was a 262-page amendment to a far larger appropriations bill. It was signed into law by President Bill Clinton that December.

      This has played a role in the financial disaster in progress comparable to Glass-Stegall.

      If there is a Great Depression of 2009, Clinton will be given just as much credit by historians as Bush will.

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      by alizard on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 02:07:58 AM PDT

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  •  The following is absolute nonsense: (0+ / 0-)

    "Hoover worked with bankers and the savings and loan industry to promote a newfangled financial instrument called the long-term home mortgage.

    The rest, as they say, is history."

    And no (responding to others who posted here), Hoover is not the absolute worst president, not even close. Try Harding, and carefully consider Coolidge, Truman, and Nixon. Forget about the presidents of the nineteenth century as the crises of its years pale in comparison to the ones this country faced, and continues to face, following 1899. That is the case, with the singular exception of the sectional crisis, bigger than any president, and which progressed for half the century.

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