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Our War on Drugs Killed Another 13 People

Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 07:36:38 AM PDT

The real border problm is not meek little factory and farm and maintenance workers swimming, crawling, climbing or hiking across our border, when you look at the scheme of things.  Though some of these people die every year because of our immigration policies.

Our borders are a mess because we have a drug problem, and appetites for human trade.

The latest human sacrifice to supposed morality, xenophobia and government power is only a drip into a giant sea of gore, and the stink is nauseating.

Two standoffs killed 12 people, and a 13th body showed up.

"TIJUANA, Mexico - Massive gunbattles broke out between suspected drug traffickers who fired at each other while speeding down heavily populated streets of this violent border city early Saturday, killing 13 people and wounding nine."

Some people say the loss of a drug trafficker is none great.  I'm going to take the bible-thumping bullshitters at their word, however, and say thou shalt not kill, and that all life is sacred, whether those who lose it because of our criminal economic policies and the great Charybdis of our War on Drugs.  Not only do the gang members, traffickers and police get hurt, hundreds of people in Mexico and the U.S. are killed every year as innocent bystanders in a deranged crusade that undermines its own stated benefit--to protect the innocent and conserve community.

You see, it's an interesting thing.  Whether its' an historical town, an agricultural community, an indigenous population that has totally rejected typical drugs and commerce or just plain old wilderness with an odd coyote or jaguar, all suffer indiscriminately.  The hand that strikes them is like a plague, bringing economic turmoil and destruction.

The border's been a mess for a long time, but these people weren't killing each other over bootleg videos, or the spoils of a mugging.

We could end this.  We must end this.

Decriminalize every drug, make it available at market cost with government oversight and  clear labeling as to the effects of the drug. If someone thinking of taking ecstasy reads that their body could overheat and go into shock, at the least they have the decision as educated moral agents in their hands.  I'm no genius here, it's been said before, notably by Gore Vidal.  Because it's human to recognize depravity and carnage and take exception to it. If we do that the body count will dramatically decline.  Maybe we'll have a few less pregnant gringos playing around with inhalants trying to cause a miscarraige.

The excuses always sound like good points, but ultimately never add up to the vision of something that isn't needlessly destroying lives at taxpayer expense.

You want to be an idiot and do a drug which can fuck up your life?  Go ahead.  Get your cheap thrill.  I don't want my tax payer money creating a shadowy black market extracting its market capitalization in human blood, or S.W.A.T. and police teams gunning down more 94 year old women, babies and ruining families on "accident".  I don't care whether your justification is God, your fucking honor student or the voices in your head.  It's all pretty darn crazy.

I'm done with this addiction to idiotic and reckless moral grandstanding and war-mongering.  End NAFTA. Get out of Iraq. Stop the War!

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  •  Moral and Intellectual Integrity Isn't Easy (5+ / 0-)

    We've been duped for so long that The War On Drugs saves lives or the Iraq War saves the lives of Americans from terrorism and the Iraqis from the "Jihadists".

    We need to take a look in the mirror and figure out why we've not allowed ourselves to have true prosperity and decency, nor our neighbors to the south.

    Republicans believe in gvmt. intervention for bankers and investors, I believe in intervention for the meek and lowly -- Nulwee.

    by Nulwee on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 07:38:56 AM PDT

  •  The establishment makes too much money (5+ / 0-)

    from seizing cars, farms, and houses to end the drug wars.  Oh, and I forgot about the prison industry.  The prisons are now the major employers in many areas.

    Greed will keep the war on drugs alive.

    But, I agree with you 100% that it should be stopped.

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    by spotDawa on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 07:40:30 AM PDT

    •  we're getting to a point (2+ / 0-)

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      where maybe weed will be decriminalized.  At the least a nice first step would be to stop eradicating ditch weed (which can't even get you high) from Montana and  Oregon and the Plains at the cost of millions of dollar per annum because it's an unholy creature in the light of our beastly secular government.

      Republicans believe in gvmt. intervention for bankers and investors, I believe in intervention for the meek and lowly -- Nulwee.

      by Nulwee on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 07:42:40 AM PDT

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      •  Jeez, that raises a whole other issue. (4+ / 0-)

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        Hemp is an excellent textile!  We're shooting ourselves in the foot in so many ways.

        But speaking of decriminalization, did you hear about Barney Frank's proposed bill?  Pretty cool, but I doubt it will pass in this Congress.  Maybe the Choom Gang will come to the rescue, lol.

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        by spotDawa on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 07:48:21 AM PDT

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  •  I kinda blame the (0+ / 0-)

    traffickers.  Call me old-fashioned.

    •  For? (1+ / 0-)

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      You mean shooting each other?  Congratulations!

      If there were no market incentive to traffick those drugs, maybe they wouldn't be doing it?

      Republicans believe in gvmt. intervention for bankers and investors, I believe in intervention for the meek and lowly -- Nulwee.

      by Nulwee on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 07:46:36 AM PDT

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      •  Seriously. (0+ / 0-)

        I am neutral about drug legalization.  But when greedy traffickers start shooting each other in Tijuana, I tend to blame the greedy traffickers.

        I know.  Silly.

        •  Wow (3+ / 0-)

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          So you help destroy your neighbor's economic prosperity in manifold ways, then create a giant economic vacuum by outlawing products which they can easily and economically will produce.  It's totally predictable.  Action and consequence.

          You see, some of us without our moral pretension would prefer to see all murder and carnage cease.  

          Rather than create a false debate over the gang members being moral agents (when you don't even know if all of them were engaged in shooting, some of them could have been shot without being armed or firing) when I never said they weren't, you'd rather assume this is some sort of exception to a pattern that ultimately leads back to Mexico City and Washington.

          Governments see patterns or at least create patterns.  I'd prefer ones that don't end in ignorance and murder. Whatever form. Your's or their's.

          Republicans believe in gvmt. intervention for bankers and investors, I believe in intervention for the meek and lowly -- Nulwee.

          by Nulwee on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 07:54:28 AM PDT

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        •  Criminals control the drug trade (3+ / 0-)

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            because the drug trade is illegal. If drugs were legal criminals would not control the drug trade.

            Blaming drugs for this violence is misguided. The opportunity to make large amounts of tax-free cash is created by the drug war. The meme that drugs somehow automatically cause violent, criminal behavior is one of the chief talking points of the anti-drug zealots whose tireless work keeps this farce going.

            Decriminalization would leave this situation unchanged. Drug trafficing would still be illegal, and all the problems that attend would still exist.

          What's the difference between Vietnam and Iraq? Bush knew how to get out of Vietnam.

          by happy camper on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 08:23:20 AM PDT

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          •  I agree, except one point.... (2+ / 0-)

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            Decriminalization would leave this situation unchanged. Drug trafficing would still be illegal, and all the problems that attend would still exist.

            That logic is flawed and can be scene in everyday life.

            What is trafficked more, cocaine or Vicadin??

            Right.

            And which one is legal??

            Right.

            So in fact regulation will bring things under reign, and furthermore, the romanticism that is attached to using drugs would be gone.

            Not much of a rebellious act to do something legal is it?

             

            •  umm, (0+ / 0-)

              Ok, if drugs were legal, the price would probably drop by quite a bit. Suddenly, there wouldn't be nearly as much money to be made selling them illegally, which would in practice probably mean to people who were underage or were too stupid to get the medical marijuana prescription.

              Would you shoot someone for 100 grand?  Most traffickers would.  Would they do it for fifty bucks?  Not likely.  More to the point, they wouldn't have the money to bribe cops and politicians like they do now.  

              Instead of big time dealers, you would have small time dealers and they wouldn't be able to cause nearly as much damage to society.

              This illustrates another problem with having a large part of our borders unprotected.  It isn't just honest laborers coming in.  Some of them are carrying dope.  Some of them are venezuelan special forces types coming in to make sure no airstrikes we might do go unavenged, some of them are probably al quaeda types looking to start something.  Leaving the borders unsecured is STUPID.  

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