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Hee!   I'm filling in again!  

The main puzzle this week is an acrostic, which can be found right after the fold.  For those in the mood for more, there are also some new Catch Phrase puzzles to be found immediately after the acrostic.

Acrostic fun, and more, coming up right below the fold...

I.  Who is this?

The Mystery Image puzzle remains unsolved.  Here the image is, again, for anyone interested in trying to identify it:

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II.  Sunday Acrostic

Here's the main attraction, the Sunday acrostic.  (If that's not enough, there are some Catch Phrase puzzles immediately afterward.)

I still can't do formatting very well, so will just link to Julie's rules for acrostics, from this Sunday Puzzle thread a few weeks back. But I think I've managed to present the clues in a reasonably easy-to-follow format.  As you can see, this is a 10-row acrostic.  (Honest!  I wouldn't lie to you about something like this.)  I'll leave it to the puzzle-solvers to determine how many letters are in the answers.

Row 1
1-a: Stark contrast?
1-b: Snap.
1-c: Plane or engine.

Row 2
2-a: Sometimes last.
2-b: Septic skeptic?
2-c: 1960s humor publication.

Row 3
3-a: Kind of throat.
3-b: Comics' Christopher.
3-c: Learner's work.

Row 4
4-a: Proper person.
4-b: Dispersal device.
4-c: Recruit involuntarily.

Row 5
5-a: Before the line?
5-b: Horrify.
5-c: Often rousing.

Row 6
6-a: Unfair if one.
6-b: Moved secretively.
6-c: Good questions!

Row 7
7-a: Volume control.
7-b: Victor, in films.
7-c: Hour, on radio (or television).

Row 8
8-a: Awaken.
8-b: Cat, commonly.
8-c: Difference between night and day?

Row 9
9-a: Deem worthy.  (Sounds great!)
9-b: Had too much.
9-c: Having sex.

Row 10
10-a: Lana Fritz
10-b: Informal (so to speak).
10-c: Elektra specialty

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And now... it's CATCH PHRASE time!  

For those who aren't familiar with this type of puzzle, here are some examples from last week.

EXAMPLE # 1: oholene

Answer: hole (inside) one => "hole in one"

EXAMPLE # 2:        Malecowaliens
                                   w...a...y

Answer: Bull+ETs (over) broad was => "Bullets Over Broadway"

I posed 5 Catch Phrase puzzles last week.  Panda figured out that

eht keche

consisted of the word "the" turned around, and the word "cheek" in a different (other) order, for "turn the other cheek", and that

   of the
      ne

consisted of the words "of the" above the crossed out letters "ne".  Since crossing out these letters means there is no ne, the answer is no ne,  of the above ("none of the above")

Wayoutinthestix basically figured out

dlb aeye

So that leaves a couple of unsolved items from last week, which I'll list as the first 2 puzzles for this week:

#1:    h=Thatcher -on

(The answer is a 2-word phrase; the exact phrase turns up close to 4 million hits on Google.)

#2:    Schuylkill Expressway
                    mon

(The answer is a 3-word phrase; the exact phrase turns up about a quarter million hits on Google.)

And here are two new puzzles to work on:

#3:   emate

(The answer is one word, and gets nearly 8 million Google hits)

#4:   d kool
         t

(The answer is a 3-word phrase; the exact phrase turns up more than 3 million Google hits.)

Have fun!  I'll see you in comments.

Originally posted to Nova Land on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 07:39 AM PDT.

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  •  I think I have it. (0+ / 0-)

    "Help, my country has been hijacked by a retarded cowboy"

    Is that it ?

    Help, my country has been hijacked by a retarded cowboy.

    by bookkillrr on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 07:41:31 AM PDT

    •  ??? (1+ / 0-)
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      juliewolf

      Sorry, I'm not sure which puzzle in particular you are referring to.  

      But yes, that is the answer for several lines of the acrostic, and probably several other of this week's puzzles as well.  I'll have to come up with harder puzzles next time.

  •  tip jar, now with no spoilers (7+ / 0-)

    I'm filling in again this week.  

    (But if you folks are good, and don't solve the puzzle too easily this week, I may release Julie in time to post a puzzle next week.)

    Have fun!

  •  Okay, so... (#2) (4+ / 0-)

    ...Expressway is I76, and it's over a "mon" which could be "monday" or... hmm..

    Monday under the I76?

    76 over Monday?  That makes no sense

    76 is, I think LXXVII in roman numerals, which, well, that doesn't help either.

    Numbers converted to letters for I76 = IGF

    I'll ponder more.

    Thanks for subbing again.  This week I just got spaced out :)

    •  my pleasure (3+ / 0-)
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      Panda, nonnie9999, wayoutinthestix

      I love working puzzles, but coming up with them is fun, too, so I'm happy for the chance to fill-in.

      (Alas, I am planning to be away next weekend, so will probably miss out on both the fun of posing the puzzle and the fun of getting to solve one.  But I may be able to make some progress on the Mystery Image puzzle during the trip.  While last week's suggestion of Avril Lavigne didn't pan out, it did give me an inspriation which I want to check out, and I'll be able to do that at the UT library.)

  •  No. 3 is easy (spoiler) (4+ / 0-)

    "Matinee."

    "The great lie of democracy, its essential paradox, is that democracy is first to be sacrificed when its security is at risk." --Ian McDonald

    by Geenius at Wrok on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 07:51:44 AM PDT

  •  Got No. 4 also (spoiler) (4+ / 0-)

    Don't look back.

    "The great lie of democracy, its essential paradox, is that democracy is first to be sacrificed when its security is at risk." --Ian McDonald

    by Geenius at Wrok on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 07:55:16 AM PDT

  •  I got a catch phrase (3+ / 0-)

    But you have to print it out to make it work:

    M O O N

  •  Nova, about the image... (2+ / 0-)
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    Nova Land, wayoutinthestix

    so you don't know what it is either?

    •  No, I don't. Here's the story: (3+ / 0-)
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      jhutson, nonnie9999, wayoutinthestix

      (To save time, I'm going to steal from a post I wrote last week.)  

      In 2005 a woman (Angela) appeared on the Montel Williams show on a day Sylvia Browne was appearing.  She had with her a photograph which she said she had taken at a Christmas Eve party in 2002.  

      She didn't get the pictures she'd taken back until a couple weeks later, and when she did there was an imagine on the tv screen which she didn't recognize.  She wanted to know if it was an angel.  Sylvia said it was.

      Here is the picture:

      Robert S Lancaster does an excellent web site, StopSylviaBrowne.com  If the original source of the image in the photo can be tracked down, he can add an article about this to the site.  It's not the biggest or most important or most hurtful lie Sylvia Browne has ever told, but it's one which could provide a clear, simple, and interesting example.  If we can find the source of the image.

      You will notice that, in the photograph, the woman's head appears in an oval rather than a circle.  Some of us suspect that the image on the tv is stretched -- that the tv was set to display a widescreen image and that led to horizontal stretching of the picture.  That's one reason I think the picture is genuine rather than a hoax.  

      I think it was a brand new set, which the family had gotten for Christmas, and that they had it turned on even though no one was really watching it.  (And they hadn't learned how to set the picture display properly yet.)

      I think the most likely possibility is that the image on the screen is from a television program (although it might be from a commercial, it might be from a video, it might be from a video game, it might be from anything...)

      I have obtained copies of the 2002 and 2003 TV Guide issues for Christmas week (2003, on the possibility the woman might have been mistaken about the date).  I've also photocopied tv schedules for Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, and New Year's Eve for those two years, and 2001 as well.  So far neither I nor others puzzling over this have been able to find the program (or video, or game, or...) that the scene is from.  

      It doesn't appear to be from a network program (although there are still a number of programs I haven't crossed off yet), so I'm starting to think about music videos which might have been shown on MTV or VH-1 that night.  That's a lot harder to work on, though.

      Since no one who has looked at the image yet has been able to correctly identify it, it seems probable to me that it's not something common.  So one of my hopes is that, by showing it to a variety of groups of people, at some point I'll show it to the one in a million person who happens to be familiar with whatever the image is from.  

      My apologies for posting a puzzle the answer to which I do not know.  It's a puzzle I'm still working on myself.  I am hopeful this puzzle can be solved -- and when I know the answer I'll post it here for those of you who are curious.

      •  Wow. Bizarre. (3+ / 0-)

        I don't know anything about Sylvia Browne (and find it difficult to care) but I do find the puzzle intriguing.

        Birding in New England: advocacy for birds and birders.

        by juliewolf on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 08:57:06 AM PDT

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        •  Sylvia Browne preys on people who can't afford it (3+ / 0-)

          She charges people (often, people who can't afford it) large sums of money for basically worthless information.  

          She claims that spirits talk to her and give her information.  People in trouble often turn to her, and other alleged psychics, for information about health problems, missing loved ones, and other difficult situations.  She charges in the neighborhood of $700 an hour for her readings.  Her telephone readings.  In person can be even more expensive.

          It's one thing to do this kind of act as entertainment, for people who know it is entertainment (and who can afford to pay the kind of prices she charges, simply to be entertained).  But pretending she really talks to spirits, that she really has useful information to pass on from departed loved ones, is cruel and vicious.  It ought to be as illegal to prey on people this way as it is to sell sugar water and claim it cures cancer.

          I love puzzles, and this one intrigues me.  It seems like it should be simple to solve -- just check the tv listings, and identify the program the image came from -- but it isn't.  So I'm interested in the puzzle from the curiosity point of view.  I want to know what the answer is.  I want to know why Angela wasn't able to figure out the answer for herself, and why no one she showed the picture to, or who saw it on television when the show aired, or who has looked at it since, has been able to identify it.

          But above and beyond that, it feels to me like a worthwhile puzzle to be working on.  If solving a puzzle could hasten the impeachment and/or criminal prosecution of members of the Bush administration who have been involved in torture and other crimes, I'd be working on that puzzle night and day.  Sylvia isn't quite up in the Bush leagues -- but the basic feeling is the same.

      •  I don't think I've ever heard of Sylvia Browne (4+ / 0-)

        but then I usually ignore that kind of stuff.  (Although for the record, I should say I would love it if angels were out there guarding and guiding me but apparently I seem to be surrounded by pixies, imps, brownies and such-like tricksters and, sometimes, I'm convinced, even the occasional demon.  Guess I'm just not the angelic type.)

        Looking at the pic, it seems to me like an illustration or painting.  Like from a fairy tale or off a collectible plate or romance cover or christmas song collection.  Could that be a possiblity?

        •  It could be... (3+ / 0-)

          but I don't think it is.

          One question that needs to be answered is, how did the image get onto the television screen.  If it got onto the screen because the tv was on and this is an image from a program (or commercial), or video, or video game, then the question is answered.  

          But for the image to be a collector's plate, or the cover of a book, or something like that, it's not so simple.  It's possible someone at the party was using a projector of some kind (or a laptop computer) to project images onto the tv screen.  But in that case, why was Angela puzzled to see the image on the screen in her photograph?  Why didn't she realize it was one of the pictures that Slideshow Bob was projecting during the party?  (Or, if she didn't remember it, why didn't someone else who was at the party remember?)

          So if the image is a plate, or book cover, or art from a record album, and if someone during the party wasn't projecting the art onto the screen, then the main possibility would seem to be a hoax -- that someone photoshopped or otherwise added the image to the photo after it was taken.  

          That's certainly possible.  But it doesn't smell like a deliberate hoax to me.  I believe that Angela is telling the truth as she remembers it -- that this is a genuine photograph she took at a holiday party, and that she didn't expect to see an image like this in the photograph.

          Whether it's a hoax or a genuine photograph, the image had to come from somewhere.  If it's a hoax, it's going to be a lot harder to track down the original source than if it is from a tv show that was airing that night.  But I'm open to any suggestions.  

          It's sort of like working these acrostics.  Often, we're on the wrong track, and someone comes up with a new way of thinking about a clue and suddenly the line cracks open.  I'm hoping that will happen eventually with this image puzzle.

      •  nova land.... (2+ / 0-)
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        Nova Land, wayoutinthestix

        i've been meaning to put the mystery pic in photoshop to see if it can be made a little bit clearer. i finally remembered to do so.  here is the result...

        i think julie was right, and the picture on the tv was changing from the woman's face to something else.  the white thing in the front looks like it is something completely separate from the face. either that, or it might even be a microphone.  can't really make out anything else.  
        here it is with more contrast and darker.  it looks like a face of a man with a beard on the left side, perhaps facing someone else.  

        I didn't get Jack from Abramoff...I'm not a Republican!

        by nonnie9999 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 06:38:56 PM PDT

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        •  Very interesting (2+ / 0-)
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          Nova Land, nonnie9999

          The man's face kinda looks like Peewee Herman to me, not a beard but a 'Home Alone, Oh, no!' hands on cheeks. The hat on the woman's head is very distinguishing. If the woman can not be identified, FIND THE HAT!

          An angel would be my absolute last guess. I can't imagine eye make-up in anyone's idea of heaven. Oh, there was a very tall blonde on Peewee's Playhouse, Miss Estelle or somebody, but I don't remember her looking quite so delicate.

          "I suppose it's never any surprise that a sham, when it falls apart, falls apart so quickly and thoroughly." - from Sea of Tranquillity by Paul Russell

          by wayoutinthestix on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 07:00:56 PM PDT

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          •  i don't see peewee.... (2+ / 0-)
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            Nova Land, wayoutinthestix

            it looks more to me like a man, looking to his left, 3/4 face.  he has a goatee.  if you can make the pic bigger, you might see what i mean.  maybe i will enlarge that section when i open photoshop later.
            i think that julie was correct, and it is a matter of 2 different images smushed together as the scene changed from one to the next in the instant that the camera took the pic.  

            I didn't get Jack from Abramoff...I'm not a Republican!

            by nonnie9999 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 08:07:40 PM PDT

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            •  Thank you! (2+ / 0-)
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              nonnie9999, wayoutinthestix

              That's very intriguing.  My monitor is low quality, so I don't see this very distinctly, but I'm starting to see the man's face you're talking about.  Interesting eyes (or squarish eye-glasses)...

              I'm still mulling over the idea that this is two images, one superimposed on the other, rather than one.  One question in my mind has been, why was Angela puzzled by the image in the photo?  If the tv was on, even if no one was paying attention to it, it seems like she'd think, Oh, it must be an image from the show which was on.  

              But if the image is a mash-up, that could explain it.  Instead of her being puzzled because she didn't know what was on, she's puzzled because she did know what was on and doesn't recognize this scene as being from that...

              I agree about the hat being distinctive.  (If it is a hat, that is -- on my monitor, I can't be certain it's a hat and not simply light contrast making her hair a bit darker to resemble a hat.)  

              If it's a hat, there appears to be an X or a star at the top.  But in a Stevie Nicks video I watched, there's a similar X in right about the same spot from the way the spotlight is shining on her. (It's from an 8 1/2 minute "Edge of Seventeen" YouTube, about 3 minutes in as I recall.)

              I am going to have to look at this on a better monitor and see if that makes a difference.  I'm hoping to make a trip to Knoxville this coming weekend, and will look at this on a library computer while there to see if that makes a difference.

              Many thanks!

              •  i must be looking at it.... (2+ / 0-)
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                Nova Land, wayoutinthestix

                differently than everyone else, because i don't see a hat.  the more i look at it, the more i see different people, including the x that i think you are referring to at the top of the mystery woman's head.  look at it closely, and it looks like a person.  it is distorted, as someone would be reflected in a tv set.  in fact, i see several different people.  i might be seeing things, but it looks like the man with the beard is talking to or looking at or standing near a woman.  the woman is reflected partly in the right cheek of the mystery woman. i think it is a matter of a picture on the tv changing to another scene and reflections of the people at the party in the house all at once, compounded by the camera's flash. the mystery woman might even be a man.  all that busy-ness around the face looks like huge bouffant hair or sci-fi or fantasy movie hair, but i think it is a lot of different images that were reflected.  the face could be any number of actresses from shows or from commercials.  i am thinking that it might be a commercial for makeup or something of that sort, because the mystery woman is looking directly into the camera. then again, it might not be a woman at all.  look closely, and it could be a young boy or girl.      

                I didn't get Jack from Abramoff...I'm not a Republican!

                by nonnie9999 on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 02:56:56 AM PDT

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                •  might be good to compare tweaked image with (2+ / 0-)
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                  nonnie9999, wayoutinthestix

                  the original photo.  Here it is again:

                  As you can see, this is appearing on a very large screen tv -- and is taking up only a fairly small part, with the rest of the screen blank.

                  To the left of the image, a table lamp is reflected.  that makes sense -- it would be a source of light, and so likely to cast a reflection on the screen.  There aren't any other reflections appearing on the screen.

                  I don't know very much about photography, let alone about taking pictures of a tv screen, so it's possible that the result of taking a flash picture of a screen would result in reflections on screen the way you're describing.  It's certainly worth thinking about.  My impression is that the images within the circle are mainly a cohesive whole, from one source, rather than a combination of tv picture and reflections -- but that's just an impression, and my impressions are wrong a lot of the time.

                  One thing that strikes me as significant is the symmetry of the image.  The woman's face appears right in the center of the oval (or circle, once the image is unstretched).  The white object (candle? microphone? glass she's drinking from?) appears right in the lower center.  The X on what looks like a hat appears in the top center.  If these items are simply random reflections, that seems oddly coincidental.  

                  •  it is symmetrical..... (1+ / 0-)
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                    Nova Land

                    but a lighting fixture across from the tv would be, too.  is there a glass globe light fixture in the house?  we know the tv is reflective since we can see the lamp and someone's head to the left of the mystery image.  the person with the camera is fuzzy, which indicates she was moving and the person who took the picture had a camera that was slow or didn't have a faster speed.  therefore, we can infer that the image on the tv might be a combination of different images instead of just one.  if i have time later, i will play with the images more in photoshop.  

                    I didn't get Jack from Abramoff...I'm not a Republican!

                    by nonnie9999 on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 02:48:34 PM PDT

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                    •   why the faces in the photo are fuzzy (1+ / 0-)
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                      nonnie9999

                      I think the reason why the faces in the photo are fuzzy is not because the woman taking the picture was moving; it's because those parts of the photo were electronically altered to blur those prior to airing on national televiaion, in order to protect Angela's relatives privacy.

                      is there a glass globe light fixture in the house?

                      Unfortunately that's something we don't know.  There's a brief transcript available of Angela's segment of the Montel show in which she asked Sylvia about the photo, but Sylvia brushes her off pretty quickly so there's very little information in it.  I wish I knew how to contact Angela, because there are so many questions I have which, if she could answer them, would simplify the search considerably. But being able to get more information from Angela seems unlikely at present.

                      •  what i meant to say.... (2+ / 0-)
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                        Nova Land, wayoutinthestix

                        is that the hand of the woman with the camera appears fuzzy, as well as some of the rest of the pic, because a little bit of time elapsed, and the camera was not set at the fastest shutter speed.  therefore, movement was recorded, and it showed itself as fuzziness.  
                        i think it is interesting that most of the tv is dark.  that is when it is its most reflective (as i am observing watching my tv as scenes change from one to another).

                        I didn't get Jack from Abramoff...I'm not a Republican!

                        by nonnie9999 on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 04:53:08 PM PDT

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                        •  I see dead people. (2+ / 0-)
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                          Nova Land, nonnie9999

                          Just kidding. Nova and nonnie, I can enlarge the image, and for the record, I still see Peewee and I still see a hat.

                          The hat is smaller than a regular hat, that is, it sits atop her head rather than big enough to fit in the top of a head. It has an upcurved brim, a raised cylindrical part shaped like a round layer cake with a flat top, and a band (ribbon?) around the base of the raised part tied in the front with a bow. What looks like a star on the top of the hat at normal resolution kinda falls apart when magnified.

                          I do see a few other faces and stuff that may or may not really be there, but I ABSOLUTELY see something strange going on in the woman's hair on our right (not her right) at 200%. There are MANY perfectly straight lines, both dead vertical and nearly horizontal, that make a hillside of buildings drawn in perspective, complete with columns and windows.

                          I think the entire image is drawn. Whether or not the woman in the image is supposed to look like a real-life woman, I don't know.

                          "I suppose it's never any surprise that a sham, when it falls apart, falls apart so quickly and thoroughly." - from Sea of Tranquillity by Paul Russell

                          by wayoutinthestix on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 05:14:41 PM PDT

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  •  Maybe spoiler rows 4 & 7 (3+ / 0-)

    (except 4B suffers from a possible singular-plural problem)

    1. priss - prisms- impress
    1. muter - mature - ?

    If correct, this would be a 5x6x7 acrostic...

    Thanks for doing such a terrific job of subbing, Nova!

    Politics: A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. -- Ambrose Bierce

    by OkieByAccident on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 08:59:00 AM PDT

  •  Maybe spoiler puz II 3a - 3b (3+ / 0-)
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    OkieByAccident, Nova Land, nonnie9999

    strep - Priest

    "I suppose it's never any surprise that a sham, when it falls apart, falls apart so quickly and thoroughly." - from Sea of Tranquillity by Paul Russell

    by wayoutinthestix on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 09:07:08 AM PDT

  •  just logged on--spoiler 8a,b (4+ / 0-)

    and now I have to go away for a couple of hours :-(

    But 8a and b are  

    rouse mouser

    could 8c be mousier or morgues???

  •  Thought on image puzzle (3+ / 0-)

    There's a video for Madonna's song "Ray of Light" that has a lot of very quick moments at the end which involve close-ups of her face and shots of the earth spinning.  I can't slow it down enough via youTube to see that specific image, but the woman in the photo does resemble her.

    Just a thought for anyone who might have that particular video on a DVD somewhere where they can freeze frame and step-through.

    •  The Termite suggested Madoona... (2+ / 0-)
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      nonnie9999, wayoutinthestix

      in a mid-week post to last week's thread (after the thread was quiet, so folks other than me probably didn't see it).  He thought he remembered seeing it in a Madonna video.

      His first suggestion was "Hey, Mr. DJ", which I was able to find and watch on YouTube and which unfortunately doesn't have the image.  He also suggested "Don't Tell Me" -- which again looked very promising, but doesn't have the image.  

      It seemed a very good possibility, though, so I downloaded and watched a bunch more Madonna YouTubes, including "Ray of Light".  Alas, haven't been able to find the image.

      I registered at a Madonna fan forum, thinking I would post a picture of the image and ask if anyone there recognized it.  (I've largely been able to eliminate the tv show Charmed and Stevie Nicks that way.)  But I must have chosen poorly as far as fan sites go -- got back an e-mil quickly saying they'd received my application and I'd get an e-mail soon once an administrator activated my account but still haven't received the activation notice.  (Must remember to look for another site some time tonight.)

      It's a good suggestion.  Madonna has the right look, and I think music videos are a very good possibility. (I'd never seen a Madonna music video before, so I'm having fun and getting an education in pop culture in the process of trying to solve this.)

    •  I just watched "Ray of Light" again ... (1+ / 0-)
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      in case I had missed the image the first time. Like you, I don't have freeze frame capability, but by backing the clip up to any promising-looking segment whenever I passed one, and repeatedly hitting pause/play/pause/play, I think I got a fairly good look and I'm pretty sure the image isn't there.

      It's a fairly distinctive image.  The entire screen is dark except for one small area, toward the top center, where the circle (or oval, if it isn't a stretched image) appears.  There appears to be a hat on the woman's head (although that might just be a trick of the light).  And there is definitely a white object in front of her face, which appears to be a candle (but could be something else, such as a microphone).  None of the promising segments had those elements as far as I could tell.

      (It's a good enough image that even if it were flashed subliminally I'd think they'd want to use it supraliminally as well.  But that's just a feeling, and my guesses and feelings are wrong a lot of the time -- as you've seen in some of my puzzle guesses here.)

      But the image doesn't have to be from the video itself.  If it were something they were toying with using, but edited out of the final cut, it could still appear in a "Making of..." or other documentary about Madonna.  That's one of my (many) theories -- that this is from a "Making of..." feature for a movie (such as Haunted Mansion, or a Harry Potter one), or a segment about such a movie (or Madonna) from an Inside Edition-type program. But I haven't found anything like that in the tv listings yet.

      •  A couple things about photography. though... (3+ / 0-)

        When you take a photo, you're not necessarily capturing a single instance in time.  You're capturing the accumulation of what happens over the duration of the open shutter.

        So you could have a fade from one image to the other-- a globe and a woman's face, and have them both captured in the shot if the exposure time was long enough.  They could be part of the transition from one show to another, or things that flicker quickly onto the screen during a video.

        That's one of the reasons I'm still thinking of "Ray of Light" -- there are close-ups of Madonna's face and of the earth spinning in quick succession.  Even if they don't appear at the same time, they may appear in the same photo.

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        by juliewolf on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 03:07:01 PM PDT

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        •  that's true. (1+ / 0-)
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          I've been looking for a single image and this could be two separate images superimposed on each other.  (Although the face seems to fit in the oval/circle so neatly that I have trouble thinking it happened by accident.  My inclination is to believe that the image as seen is the image intended.  But I could easily be wrong.)

          I still can't see the single images in "Ray of Light" which could combine into what we've got, though.  There  would need to be an image of just her face, no body, and fairly small relative the the entire screen, in the  top center area, and another image of the globe or other circle, again fairly small relative to the entire screen, at the top center area.  The globes and other circles I'm seeing flashing are too large and in the wrong area.  

          One thing I was looking at especially in the video, and would pause/play/pause/play through several times to see if there were something I was missing during those segments, were when the screen went almost all black, since the images would need to occur during one of those times.  I couldn't see it, and I was trying really hard to see it -- but the images to go fast, so I could have missed it.  

          I still haven't heard back from the Madonna fan site I visited several days ago, so I'll try to find a different fan site tonight.  If it is from a Madonna video, someone who lives and breathes Madonna is likely to recognize it.

    •  A friend of mine suggested Stevie Nicks... (2+ / 0-)
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      ...as another possibility.

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      by juliewolf on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:12:11 AM PDT

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      •  Stevie Nicks is a good possibility. (0+ / 0-)

        Her face and hair look very similar to the image, she wears hats in her videos frequently, and her videos often have mystical themes.  I thought I had eliminated her, but perhaps I should revisit that possibility.

        I looked at several of her videos, especially the ones from around 2002 (thinking that, if this were a music video either being played on a music channel such as MTV or by someone who'd received the video as a Christmas gift that it was likely to be a recent one) and "Sorceror" seemed the most likely candidate.  Found it on YouTube, but couldn't find the image.  Found several more, didn't see the image in those either, so found a Stevie Nicks fan site, e-mailed the administrator, and got back an e-mail that he didn't recognize the image.  

        I thought that largely ruled her out.  I figured that a person who is that big a fan would be likely to recognize the image if it were from one of her videos.  But I really don't know how familiar that person is with all her work -- perhaps I should find a fan site with a forum, post the picture in a thread, and see if someone else recognizes it.

  •  #2 thought (4+ / 0-)

    The 76'ers are a football team, right?  Does the answer have anything to do with Monday night football?

    Obviously, this one still has a few kinks to work out :)

    •  Football? (3+ / 0-)
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      in general I try to create puzzles that a person can look at, copy down, and solve without needing to use Google.  So my clues tend to have comic book references, since everyone knows (or should know) about great works of literature.  And, yeah, occasionally I'll look up something more obscure (tv shows, movie stars, musicians, etc.) to use in clues, figuring a little Googling never hurt anyone.

      But football?  That's getting a little too obscure for me to consider using...  

      Unless, of course, I thought I was getting too predictable, and wanted to use a clue that no one could possibly think I'd use.  But since this is only my second time doing a puzzle thread here, y'all don't know me well enough for that kind of double fake-out to work.  

      So I doubt if it refers to the football team.

      No, knowing me, I suspect this is something that someone with no special trivia knowledge should be able to solve, just from looking at the clue and puzzling it out.  [Unlike several of the acrostic clues this week...][And I wish I knew a way to write in white text against a white background, so I could have made that last comment invisible.]

  •  spoiler row 6 (5+ / 0-)

    SIDED-SIDLED-RIDDLES

  •  Aha-less stinky guesses for 9 abc (3+ / 0-)
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    deign - singed - seeding

    "I suppose it's never any surprise that a sham, when it falls apart, falls apart so quickly and thoroughly." - from Sea of Tranquillity by Paul Russell

    by wayoutinthestix on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 11:59:07 AM PDT

  •  So how are the verticals coming? (2+ / 0-)
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    I forgot to mention this in my introductory comments, but there is no anagramming or any other funny business with the verticals this week.  Once you've got the right letters, you should be able to read both columns without difficulty.

  •  SPOILER---BOTH VERTICALS (3+ / 0-)

    Don't look if you don't want to know yet...

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    FLIM FLAM, BY JAMES RANDI

    One of my favorite books.

  •  3c (3+ / 0-)
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    Assuming strep and priest are right (and they probably are), 3c is going to be PERMITS

  •  10a b-c spoiler, maybe? (4+ / 0-)

    10c must have a Y and an I, so perhaps slaying?

    Then 10b could be slangy

    But 10a?  slang doesn't make sense, glans makes even less sense.....

    Ah, maybe Lang's.  Lana Fritz was a constume designer at about the time that a famous actress names Lang was performing...

  •  Think it's safe to comment on this (2+ / 0-)
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    You folks are making pretty good progress through the puzzle, so I think I'm not spoiling anything by commenting a little on row 10.

    You're right that the answer to 10-a is the plural rather than the possessive.  Last week I deliberately used the easy version "Sweet frozen sugar" rather than the more difficult version "Frozen sugar", to give an illustration of this type of clue, because I'm fond of using it and wanted to give you an idea of my general style.  (And, as you've already seen, I used it more than once today -- in this row, and back in row 3.)  

    I Googled "Lana Fritz" and was delighted to find there was a person by that name famous enough to turn up early in a Google search, since it gives the clue the appearance of being about some characteristic of one  person rather than being about a shared characteristic of two.  Obviously, if I had clued it as Lana and Fritz y'all would have cracked it before I had even posted the tip jar.  (Ditto if I'd clued 3-c as Learner's and work.)

    Although you've got row 10 right (so there's little point in my denying it), I think you may not have fully appreciated the meaning of 10-c.  This is an extremely easy row if you note that the spelling of the clue for 10-c is Elektra, not Electra.  

    (Or maybe you folks did realize that.  I just realized there was a big-budget movie about Elektra a few years back, so it's not simply literature lovers who'd know she's distinct from the character out of Greek mythology.)  

  •  1b 1c (3+ / 0-)
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    looks like maybe

    fasten - fan jets

    "I suppose it's never any surprise that a sham, when it falls apart, falls apart so quickly and thoroughly." - from Sea of Tranquillity by Paul Russell

    by wayoutinthestix on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 02:21:44 PM PDT

  •  i am most likely wrong....spoiler #2 (6+ / 0-)

    but is #2 pardon me?
    Schuylkill is in pennsylvania, pa for short
    Expressway is road, rd for short
    oops, it's supposed to be 3 words.  
    still, perhaps pardon is one of the words.
    wait i have it!!!!!

    pardon my french!!!!

    pa=pennsylvania
    rd=expressway
    on
    my in french=mon
                       

    I didn't get Jack from Abramoff...I'm not a Republican!

    by nonnie9999 on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 03:53:36 PM PDT

  •  Yay, nonnie!!! (3+ / 0-)
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    It's been torturing me, and I wasn't anywhere close.

    "I suppose it's never any surprise that a sham, when it falls apart, falls apart so quickly and thoroughly." - from Sea of Tranquillity by Paul Russell

    by wayoutinthestix on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 04:07:22 PM PDT

  •  good work, all (3+ / 0-)

    I already tried "lampoon" for 2c, but couldn't make it fit with 2a & 2b. Now we know it has an "a" and "l", so I looked again, but still can't make sense of 2a or 2b...

    Politics: A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. -- Ambrose Bierce

    by OkieByAccident on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 06:24:51 PM PDT

  •  I'm surprised people are stuck on row 2... (2+ / 0-)
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    I would have thought it would be row 5 that would hang you up.  

    Oh, wait, you are still stuck on row 5.  And row 1 as well, I see.  Never mind, then.

  •  Spoiler row 5!!!! (3+ / 0-)
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    I was just about to post my crappy guesses...

    put on - font up - fun spot

    when the good ones popped in my head...

    end of - offend - send off

    "I suppose it's never any surprise that a sham, when it falls apart, falls apart so quickly and thoroughly." - from Sea of Tranquillity by Paul Russell

    by wayoutinthestix on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 01:18:47 PM PDT

  •  I'm on fire! Maybe spoiler row 2 (4+ / 0-)

    rites - Lister - Realist

    "I suppose it's never any surprise that a sham, when it falls apart, falls apart so quickly and thoroughly." - from Sea of Tranquillity by Paul Russell

    by wayoutinthestix on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 01:58:41 PM PDT

    •  Excellent work! (1+ / 0-)
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      As a reward, here is a link to an online archive of The Realist.

      I was looking through these yesterday, to see if I could find a good example of Realist humor to post which wouldn't be too much of a giveaway.  One bit I especially liked: In the letters to the editor section ("Sir Realist") for issue 24/25, they led off with a very flattering letter from a person saying how much he enjoyed the magazine and sending in money for a lifetime subscription.  They followed that with the following letter, titled "On the Other Hand":

      Please do not send me any more issues of your magazine.  I find your "freethought criticism and satire" crudely done, in extremely poor taste, and intellectually one rung above the level of a feral child.  If you have a point to make, it certainly isn't evident from your oddly self-conscious facetious blasphemy.

      To which Krassner replied:

      Is that a regular one-year cancellation, sir, or would you like a lifetime cancellation?

  •  Ding, ding, ding! Spoiler 1a (w/ previous 1b,1c) (4+ / 0-)

    Stane - fasten - fan jets

    After MUCH googling, Obadiah Stane is the ruthless rival of Tony Stark aka Iron Man of superhero fame.

    "I suppose it's never any surprise that a sham, when it falls apart, falls apart so quickly and thoroughly." - from Sea of Tranquillity by Paul Russell

    by wayoutinthestix on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 02:43:42 PM PDT

  •  Excellent work -- I guess that's a wrap (1+ / 0-)
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    Congratulations on solving the acrostic, as well as all the Catch Phrases!  (And I hope all the answers were satisfactory, once you figured them out.)

    I'm hoping to be away this coming weekend, so will miss out on the puzzle-solving fun on Sunday, but should be back by Monday evening and will check in on the new puzzle thread then to see if there are any unsolved bits left for me to help with.

    And maybe I'll have more news to report on the mystery image when I get back...

    •  Next week's puzzle (2+ / 0-)
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      I realized yesterday that there's no way in hell I'm going to be able to do puzzling Sunday until late afternoon.  I've got a bird walk in the a.m. then at 10:30 or so I'm sitting in on a gig with a friend, and then at 1:45, I'm doing my own set, so...  oops.

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      by juliewolf on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 03:22:00 AM PDT

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