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Can everyone take a deep breath already?!

Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:00:04 PM PDT

Jeez!  From reading the diaries and comments on Dailykos today you'd think something happened in the last 72 hours in the ballpark of Obama being caught, as the old saying goes, in bed with a dead girl or a live boy.  ENOUGH!!!!!

I've got news for you all.  The delegate math is still the delegate math, Obama still leads and will lead in the popular vote by the end of the primaries, and he will most certainly have won more states.  

What's the problem?  Everyone is acting like this is the worst day of their lives.  What's the big deal?  So Jeremiah Wright is back talking again.  If you'll all remember, the original Wright "scandal" did not hurt Obama in the polls.  In fact, the speech he gave in response to that situation moved a number of polls in his favor.  From personal experience, I know that both of my parents (white, Jewish people from PA) decided to vote for Obama after that speech.  Relax!  I really think many of us are unable to see the forrest for the trees.  Do you really think Team Obama is going to sit there and let this story drive the remainder of the campaign?  What part of their past performances would make you think that would happen.  If anything, this seems to give BO the opportunity to talk directly about how this is just another example of silly season.  Wright is not Obama!!  Say that to yourself 100 times.  In all of the posts on this issue, I have yet to see a reasoned argument over why this is so damaging.  Please, it's not gonna be damaging for it's own sake.  Do you really think that people are going to start thinking Obama is an anti-white racist?  They weren't stupid enough to fall for that before, why would they start now?  

Regarding the NC Governor's endorsement; that's all it is.  One Super Delegate.  My God, you'd think every governer in the nation just endorsed her with all of the hand wringing and whining on here.  Guess what, that won't be the last person to endorse Clinton's sinking ship.  There are "setbacks" in campaigns.  If you can't handle it, don't watch.

Finally, and perhaps most importantly, I just don't see any way for the SDs to overturn the will of the electorate.  You are saying that the party that claims to have gotten screwed in 2000 and 2004 is gonna screww the majority of those who voted in the primaries this year.  Add to that the fact that doing so would ensure that African Americans (an underappreciated but enormously essential part of Democratic electoral success) would leave the party and never come back, and I just don't see it.

Can we all take a few minutes to think about what has really changed?  Are we that weak-spirited that not being ahead by double digits in every poll is enough to make us scream that the sky is falling.  Stop it already.  Turn of the TV, get off the Internet, and read a book.  Or better yet, go out and canvas or make calls for BO.  We are indeed the answer we've been looking for.  That means we need to make the change we seek.  Crying about how the sky is falling isn't gonna get the job done.

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  •  Agreed. n/t (18+ / 0-)

    Rabindranath Tagore-"Bigotry tries to keep truth safe in its hand with a grip that kills it."

    by joy sinha on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:00:43 PM PDT

  •  Couldn't agree more... (6+ / 0-)

    I'm taking phone bank pledges before May 6th if anyone wants to add their pledge...

  •  Amen! (3+ / 0-)

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    Elise, HoundDog, Fairy Tale

    But not surprising. Primary fever is very contagious.

  •  NPR today noted.... (4+ / 0-)

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    jkennerl, Catte Nappe, Elise, Fairy Tale

    Republicans will pick out candidate, since the elections are so close for the two democratic candidates.  Seriously.  That and only that is the whole point of the superdelegates- so republicans bent of mischief can't pick our candidate.

    You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

    by murrayewv on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:03:07 PM PDT

  •  Totally agree (3+ / 0-)

    Everytime the media pounces on Wright, some people get all scared. Those that do are just ridiculous.

    If I was a dehydrated baby, I wouldn't want bottled hot water from John McCain!

    by Fairy Tale on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:03:51 PM PDT

  •  Here's the pledges so far... (13+ / 0-)



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  •  thank you. (2+ / 0-)

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    Elise, Fairy Tale

    WE must hang together or we will all hang separately. B.Franklin

    by ruthhmiller on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:04:14 PM PDT

  •  Jeremiah Wright should find a hole to hide in... (0+ / 0-)

    ...until this election is over.  Much like Bill Clinton has done.

  •  You know... (4+ / 0-)

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    Joe Willy, wishingwell, lauramp, latinadem

    ...the best way to get the narrative straightened out is to straighten it out ourselves.  This sky of falling diaries feed into the panick.  They do little to help in the long run.

  •  Obama doesn't drive the media narrative (4+ / 0-)

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     In fact, his campaign sucks really, really bad at media management. The Clinton campaign is FAR better at that -- which speaks to Obama's strength as a candidate, given how he remains competitive despite his glaring weakness in this critical area.

     If the media decides to flog Wright for another week, it really doesn't matter what Obama does at this point.

     And Wright DID hurt Obama in the polls -- not a LOT, but it was palpable. He'd succeeded in getting beyond that issue...until Wright re-emerged. On his own.

     Wright's trying to kill Obama's campaign.

     

    "Le ciel est bleu, l'enfer est rouge."

    by Buzzer on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:06:55 PM PDT

    •  Finally! (2+ / 0-)

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      RichM, democrattotheend

      Amazing to me that so many Obama supporters were still defending Wright today. That they can't see that Wright is trying to hurt Obama shows how blind they are. Wright is poison. He's an enemy to Obama. He's no friend. What he is is a bitter, small, petty man.

      •  You don't know that at all. (0+ / 0-)

        See my response to him.

      •  Fine, he's an enemy. No wait. He's a friend. (1+ / 0-)

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        notrouble

        regardless, I refuse to think this is the central issue on which this campaign will hinge.  What about Iraq?!  How about the economy sucking?!  Anyone for climate crisis?

        •  The sooner Obama rids himself of Wright (0+ / 0-)

          The better off he'll be. Wright will continue to be a needless distraction until Obama totally disassociates from him. Obama owes this man nothing. Any man who would do what Wright did to Obama this weekend is no friend and deserving of no respect. Obama can rid himself of Wright easily - quit this hatemonger's church and condemn him in the strongest terms possible. THAT would end the controversy and would give a huge jolt in the arm to the Obama campaign. Obama, at this point, after what Wright's done to him, owes this loser nothing.

          •  It's already taking place. (0+ / 0-)

            This process of separation is already starting as evidenced by Axelrod's remark that Wright's tour is not helpful. Now, I realize that this is a painful separation, but it is something that has to happen -- the two men have basic philosophical differences. But that does not mean that Dr. Wright is a hatemonger; both men have strong progressive credentials. Dr. Wright speaks for himself and does not represent the Obama campaign in any way, shape, or form.

            •  The sooner the better (0+ / 0-)

              The sooner and more complete this separation is the better. Axelrod making a wishy statement is o.k. as far as it goes. If Wright wants to preach his message fine. But let it be clear to all that Obama and he have nothing more to do with each other.

              •  It has to be a process. (0+ / 0-)

                It can't be overnight, or Obama will just piss off the Black community and then he will lose the nomination or the general election. Trinity is still his church, and whether he leaves or not has to be his own personal decision, just like it has to be a personal decision when Clinton leaves the race.

      •  completely false----he is not Obama's enemy---- (2+ / 0-)

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        Eternal Hope, notrouble

        and he is not the caricature that the media tried to make of him.  We may have wished that he would have remained in the background, but he is not trying to hurt Obama's campaign.  I think he believed that people needed to see that he wasn't the person who was being portrayed in the media.
         I have faith that Obama will be able to put this in its proper perspective---again.
         And by the way, I could listen to Wright from now till next Thursday----he is a brilliant man with a rich biography who has many important----and true---things to say.  It's just a shame that he is being used for political purposes.  He gave those who were waiting for an opening a chance to leap----and a chance to distort.

      •  Sad, really sad (1+ / 0-)

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        Eternal Hope

        YoGo, I'm a white atheist Obama supporter. I found Rev. Wright's words encouraging, and yes, I listened to his whole interview. I have increased respect for Rev. Wright after hearing the interview and no change in my support for Sen. Obama. I don't agree with everything Rev. Wright stands for (the whole god part mostly) but I enjoyed listening to him speak.

        Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a Republican. But I repeat myself. - President Harry Truman

        by notrouble on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:57:55 PM PDT

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    •  You don't know that. (1+ / 0-)

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      Elise

      I don't think that at all. What is happening here is a process of separation. The problem is that the two men have basic philosophical differences because they have different objectives. Obama, as a politician, is all about bringing this country together. Dr. Wright, on the other hand, is all about channeling what he sees as the word of God and diagnosing our problems. I think that what is happening is that the two men are separating and going on different paths, especially since Obama is aiming for a post-racial America where we will have buried the hatchet on racism. And it's painful, especially given the fact that Wright was highly influential in Obama's development as a person. But that does not mean that Wright is somehow out to get Obama.

      •  If that is true... (1+ / 0-)

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        maineiac

         ...then Wright has absolutely no political instincts whatsoever.

          He couldn't wait a month or so to resurface?

          By coming out NOW, he's ripped the scab off the original wound, and in the process severely jeopardized Obama's nomination chances.

         As for "separation"... that's a rational argument. Unfortunately for Obama, most voters are not rational.

        "Le ciel est bleu, l'enfer est rouge."

        by Buzzer on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:18:05 PM PDT

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        •  He's a preacher, I doubt that he has political (0+ / 0-)

          instincts.  

        •  I disagree. (2+ / 0-)

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          Elise, lauramp

          First of all, the math is still the math -- Hillary still needs to make up a 160-delegate deficit. Secondly of all, Obama has cut into Hillary's led in Indiana in SUSA polling. Thirdly of all, Obama was a long-shot in PA anyway since it was her backyard and she was popular there. Fourthly of all, Obama cut into Hillary's lead in PA; he was down by as much as 20 there. Fifthly of all, I totally disagree about the intelligence of the people; if you insult them like that, you piss people off and lose their votes and Obama would not approve.

    •  Agree with comments (0+ / 0-)

      I agree with your comments - for example, Obama has been saying for a long time we need to focus on Afghanistan - yesterday Clinton says it and it all over the news.  What is wrong with the media types at the Obama campaign?

  •  But there is a problem (5+ / 0-)

    He has lost ground in NC and the numbers are shaky in Indiana.

    He cannot "Coast" to victory. I'm not a political pundit and I have no idea I could run his campaign better. And he has problems that are not his fault.

    But bottom line is-they need to shake some stuff up, stop allowing Hillary to set the story and take back the story line.

    A few weeks ago before the bitter comment broke the story was about Hillary, Bosnia, Bill and Penn's relationship with Colombia. And add to that the false story of Obama's staff person meeting with Canada.

    Obama can lose this election and if it happens, it will be because he tried to coast.

  •  Not just that - it's a lot of bad news in one day (2+ / 0-)

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    RichM, democrattotheend

    Yesterday I thought Obama definitely had the nomination.  Now I'm not so sure.  If Clinton somehow wins NC, then I think the nomination will be hers because it will require her to have eaten into Obama's core constituency.  Now I'm not familiar with NC politics and I don't know what effect Easely has on that state but I'm definitely nervous.  I really want to be convinced otherwise - I just need to see more.  

  •  OMG (11+ / 0-)

    Obama went on FOX and tried to define himself to republicans, something that he will need to do to win the general election. Everyone freak out!

    compaired to

    Hillary trashes MoveOn and the grassroots....

    cricket noise

    Courage is much more than bravery on a battlefield; it can mean acting according to your beliefs whatever the consequences. -JFK

    by LieparDestin on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:08:32 PM PDT

  •  What makes me disappointed (2+ / 0-)

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    jkennerl, ER Doc

    is the bickering here. I also wish more Superdelegates will come our way before May 6th.

  •  was freaked out a bit (0+ / 0-)

    I'm usually the optimist in my family, but I came home all freaked out and my spouse - usually the pessimist - calmed me down, saying that anyone who was against Obama because of Wright was still against him for Wright.

    Also, I felt better after haring of the Bingaman endorsement and listening to a really nice story on NPR. The reporter talked to 2 superdelegates and they really changed the frame. The reporter was trying out the "Isn't Obama doomed by Wright" line and neither - one a Clinton, the other an Obama supporter - would have none of it.

  •  When someone named "doin it for the shorties" (1+ / 0-)

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    talks, you listen.

    "The laws and Constitution are designed to survive, and remain in force, in extraordinary times." - Justice A. Kennedy

    by pylonsound on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:34:13 PM PDT

  •  Most voters aren't this hypersensitive (1+ / 0-)

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    I'm amazed that there seems to be so much panic today.  Wright gave a speech.  Hillary got another governor endorsement.  Some polls have shuffled a little.  

    The only people for whom Wright did damage to Obama are those looking for an excuse to not vote for Obama.

    Oregon's governor endorsed Hillary ages ago.  Why worry?  Oregon will go to Obama by a large margin.

    Polls... you'd think we'd learn our lesson about 1-day trends by now.

    You know what?  Most voters are paying little attention to all of this.  Many here seem shocked when a negative against another candidate does not cause a mass exodus.  It's because most people are not following the daily news cycle for the slightest quibble or bobble.  Anyone remember some of those stats from Pennsylvania that showed that the majority of people made their decision over two months ago?  It's nearly a week later and people still seem freaked out that Pennsylvania went to Hillary when it was never really up for grabs.  Pennsylvania is evidence of nothing more than voters doing exactly what was expected of them.

    I swear that it sometimes seems like the difference between day traders and long-term investors.  The people in it for the long term don't get freaked out by every little dip and surge in the market.  Ignore the concern trolls.  They do you no favors.

  •  I agree (0+ / 0-)

    I think wright explained himself well.  I have to admit i really liked his speeches.  I think most Americans will see wright through a different light.  Yes he still is saying things that some might find controversial but for the most part i think he explained himself well.  The people that are blowing this out of proportion is the media and raving supporters.  Wright has every right to speak his mind and defend himself.  Even if Obama is running.  Obama is not the supreme leader and wright has his own needs that need to be taken care of.  We cannot expect him to just go away because we think he will harm our candidate.  I would never support soemone who thought that way anyway.  This is yet another challenge he needs to face.  A challenge that pales in comparison to the problems he will face in the Oval Office.  He can handle this and he will.  As far as Wright is concerned i am glad he was able to speak and let people know how he thinks.  I truly think most people if they listen will see that he is not who the media portrayed him to be.  The media will no doubt try and play this in a negative way but this is their lively hood and i don't think anyone really expected anything different.  I will say this.  Rick Sanchez tried really hard to find things wrong with yesterdays speech, but soledad and martin and many viewers were saying what i am.  He explained himself to people in an intelligent and funny way.  When a guy like Rick Sanchez has a hard time trying to find something to hate about it; you have to know the "people" for the most part did not either.  Let the press blow this up it really just makes them look all the more bad.

  •  Agreed (1+ / 0-)

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    Eternal Hope

    People seem to be losing faith because she gained 10 delegates in PA. No one expected her to lose PA so I can't really understand the fuss. Since PA Obama has gained 5 SDs to her 4, and that includes todays endorsements.

    We can't afford politicians who focus on how to win rather than why we should - Barack Obama 05/04/2008

    by jbjowe on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:46:05 PM PDT

  •  hey, difts! (0+ / 0-)

    nice post!  though i confess to being one who frequently gets caught up in the hysteria, i too have come to terms lately as well:

    THIS.IS.OVER.  OBAMA.IS.THE.NOMINEE.

    of course, i am continually enraged by the new shit HRC pulls daily, dragging this out, and i am deeply disappointed in Rev. Wright that he couldn't SFTU until after Barack has this thing TOTALLY locked down (i.e., in the media, so we don't have to listen to daily bullshit on the "horserace," etc.)

    but here is what finally convinced me:

    the only thing HRC has left to use against Barack is this faux "unelectable" meme.

    but let's suppose for a moment that it is true:  that with all the Clinton baggage (and my gods, there's so much she's like one of those rich chicks that needs a separate cab for it at the airport), that Obama's baggage- Wright, Rezko, Ayers, flag pin, secret Muslim-ness, etc.- is far worse and absolutely renders her more electable than he.

    even if that is true RIGHT NOW (which it absolutely, unequivocally is NOT), the instant that the supers hand HRC the nomination despite the fact the Barack leads in both meaningful and meaningless metrics, at that moment, she will become the most unelectable Democrat in history.  sure, she'll have her seniors and her all-important blue-collar crowd, but she will lose: 1st time voters, young voters, black voters, netroots voters... oh, and voters with a sense of decency and fair play.

    the bottom line is:  Barack Obama has EARNED this nomination. and for those HRC supporters who say, "Don't you want to win? We have to elect the strongest candidate!"  the fact is, he has even earned the right to lose in the general, if it comes to that.  (think sports metaphor:  having a good second half doesn't give you the championship, it means you came up short. just like building an early lead doesn't mean you're ultimately the weaker team...)

    it doesn't matter if the supers think winning no matter what is most important thing, such that they're willing to pick HRC over Barack to make that happen: because the minute they do that, it won't happen.

    "We've always taken care of you; why do you want to leave home?" And America's the girl taking Barack Obama's arm: "But Mom I love him!"-Mort Sahl

    by carpediva on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:54:09 PM PDT

  •  In MA our Gov (0+ / 0-)

    endorsed Obama. That put an end to Clinton here I tell ya. Oh wait.....

    John McCain - Hope Less!

    by kitebro on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:57:57 PM PDT

  •  I like the direction (0+ / 0-)

    this diary goes in.  I too am a White Jewish Pennsylvanian.  My father stumped for Bill in 92 and 96.  His picture had a place of honor above the menorah on the mantle.  He could do no wrong in our home.  My father voted for Barack Obama in the primary last week.  So did I.  So did my mother, and my ornery, old grandfather who holds some peculiar views about race.  He made his decision after the Philadelphia speech, as did my father.

    The Obama camp is not taking this sitting down, there is ALWAYS someone working behind the scenes doing the dirty work.  David Plouffe is far more intelligent than Mark Penn, and handles these issues far more capably.  That's one of the reasons we're winning.  So let's take a deep breath, continue writing level-headed, fact based blogs, and know that in the end, no matter what the talking heads say, this changes nothing about the primary except that Hillary loses NC by 12 instead of 15 and Indiana by 3 instead of 5.

    "We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the Stars and Stripes. All of us defending the United States of America." -Sen. Barack Obama

    by Obamaniac08 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:21:01 PM PDT

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