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A Defining Moment For Barack Obama

Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 09:47:14 PM PDT

Over the weekend and this morning Barack Obama's former pastor Reverend Jeremiah Wright burst back onto the national scene - this time by his own choice and in full context. In doing so he has created the most significant challenge to Barack Obama's quest for the presidency. Jeremiah Wright's reemergence may be fatal to Barack Obama's candidacy.

Barack Obama, in spite of the Wright controversy, will become the Democratic nominee for president. The challenge to Obama's candidacy is not fatal for him in the primaries. Hillary Clinton has lost, in spite of the tortured logic of her campaign and her supporters. The damage Wright causes Obama is in the general election.

Speaking this morning at the National Press Club Jeremiah Wright went beyond his measured interview with Bill Moyers over the weekend. Reverend Wright who in the PBS interview made the case for reconciliation today became combative during the question and answer session. When asked why he was speaking out now, he said:

On November the 5th and on January 21st, I'll still be a pastor. As I said, this is not an attack on Jeremiah Wright. It has nothing to do with Senator Obama. It is an attack on the black church launched by people who know nothing about the African-American religious tradition.

And why am I speaking out now? In our community, we have something called playing the dozens. If you think I'm going to let you talk about my mama and her religious tradition, and my daddy and his religious tradition, and my grandma, you've got another thing coming.

Then Reverend Wright explained away Barack Obama's landmark Philadelphia speech as what politicians do:

What I mean is what several of my white friends and several of my white, Jewish friends have written me and said to me. They've said, "You're a Christian. You understand forgiveness. We both know that, if Senator Obama did not say what he said, he would never get elected."

Politicians say what they say and do what they do based on electability, based on sound bites, based on polls, Huffington, whoever's doing the polls. Preachers say what they say because they're pastors. They have a different person to whom they're accountable.

As I said, whether he gets elected or not, I'm still going to have to be answerable to God November 5th and January 21st. That's what I mean. I do what pastors do. He does what politicians do.

I am not running for office. I am hoping to be vice president.

However, what Reverend Wright doesn't seem to realize is that he was not speaking as a pastor this morning - he had entered the realm of politics. By bringing this controversy firmly into the political mainstream he has taken what was a distraction and made it a central issue in this campaign. He has put Barack Obama in a precarious position.

By his combative tone today, Reverend Wright has undercut Senator Obama's message of change and racial reconciliation. Wright has transformed what was merely an issue of Obama's pastor making incendiary remarks on YouTube into a black versus white issue. Reverend Wright took the bait of those making political hay and gave them more haymaking fodder. He has turned the issue into an attack on black churches rather than what was a political attack on Barack Obama.

To win in November, Barack Obama will have to distance himself from Reverend Wright's tone. As Obama explained in Philadelphia, frustration exists across the racial divide. It is the way Obama chose to address that frustration that distinguished Obama from Wright and made him such an appealing candidate. Now Obama will be forced to push Wright further away just as Wright seems bent on tying himself to Obama.

The danger for Obama is that this time as he pushes Wright away he risks alienating the African American vote. Wright has portrayed the controversy as an attack on the black church. Obama's task is to put distance between himself and Reverend Wright without risking his strong base of support in the African American community - a constituency without whose strong support at the polls no Democrat can win the general election. In Philadelphia last month, Obama had to reassure white voters that he was who he said he was. This time he has trouble on both sides. Trouble created, it seems quite intentionally, in the last few days by Jeremiah Wright.

How Barack Obama handles this moment will likely determine whether he becomes the next President of the United States. On the issues, Barack Obama has the better of the argument against John McCain. In November if he runs against McCain he wins. The Republicans' only chance this November is to make the election about race. Jeremiah Wright has now given the Republicans a giant opening. Barack Obama needs to move this election past race and onto the issues. If he cannot he will lose in November.

This is a defining moment in this campaign. It is likely that this week, as Barack Obama responds to Jeremiah Wright, he will win or lose the presidency.

[Cross posted at my blog.]

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  •  Comment of the Night (16+ / 0-)

    I'm Black and Wright broke my heart today at the National Press Club. He was 'clowning'.

    I could literally hear my heart tear into pieces with every question, because he did it on purpose. He's an old Black Man - he knew how White folk would spin it.

    He had gone 2 days without providing soundbites; so today he clowned, stabbed Obama in the heart, and everyone else who had defended him, and threw Obama under the bus.

    I'm so mad STILL.

    I wrote passionately about why Obama couldn't disown Wright, when this first went down.

    As my Mama said tonight, ' He clowned for them White people on purpose - to hurt Barack'. Indeed he did, Mama, which is why Obama needs to divorce himself from Wright IMMEDIATELY.

    After Wright's performance today, Black folk won't come down on Obama anymore.

    They would have when this first shook out because those were soundbite snippets.

    Today was a full-on 'shock' performance of the highest order. And since we saw that he can do better (Moyers and the NAACP Dinner), what conclusion could one come to, other than this was done ON PURPOSE TO HURT OBAMA.

    He displayed Crab-in-a-barrell to the nth degree, and I am hurt as hell.

    Don't tip me, Tip rikyrah

    •  it did seem like a spiteful performance (5+ / 0-)

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      tailor made for the cameras. He aimed to damage Obama, in my opinion.

      That comment in a strange way gives me hope.

    •  He is Judas Iscariot (6+ / 0-)

      With the added problem of loving the cameras.  I suspect that he is having his revenge for Obama having distanced himself from him.  And what a revenge he has had.  I don't know how BHO recovers from this.  I find it heavy with irony that the first really viable black candiate for the presidency is being brought down by his own black pastor.  Rev. Wright reeks of narcissitic self-aggrandizement.  

      "Candicrat /noun/: a democrat who will vote for the opposition or not vote at all because their candiate did not secure the nomination."

      by TheCountess on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 10:01:41 PM PDT

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      •  No, he's being brought down by a racist media (6+ / 0-)

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        Egged on by Bill and Hillary Clinton's shameless racist campaign. NEVER lose sight of that. To blame an African American for this mess is to excuse everybody else's racism.

        Obama/Casey, my personal dream ticket.

        by The Bagof Health and Politics on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 10:12:35 PM PDT

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        •  both are true (1+ / 0-)

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          RainyDay

          The race baiting coming from the Clinton campaign has been dispicable. But Wright today stepped into it all by himself.

          •  Well sure, but the reality is this (4+ / 0-)

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            Obama would alter the political dynamic. He'd finally get the country past the stale post-Watergate divides. In so doing, he'd put many people on the right, the left, and in the media out of business. The very economic survival of Wright, Clinton, Robertson, and the rest is dependent upon Obama's failure. He puts them out of business. What we're witnessing now is the last throws of the baby boom establishment. Not pretty, and it's always about them until the end.

            Obama/Casey, my personal dream ticket.

            by The Bagof Health and Politics on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 10:18:22 PM PDT

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        •  Keep telling yourself that.... (3+ / 0-)

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          You think HRC got together with the good Reverend and convinced him to go on national televsion and say all the stuff he did?  Really?  Do you also hear voices?

          "Candicrat /noun/: a democrat who will vote for the opposition or not vote at all because their candiate did not secure the nomination."

          by TheCountess on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 10:26:24 PM PDT

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          •  I think a Hillary supporter invited him (1+ / 0-)

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            both to give the speech and to the press club. That's already been reported. I think Hillary's people are pushing this story hard to the press. I think her fingerprints are all over this one.

            Obama/Casey, my personal dream ticket.

            by The Bagof Health and Politics on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 10:50:13 PM PDT

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            •  Even if (0+ / 0-)

              "someone who supported Hillary" gave him an invitation (which I doubt:  link please?), how on earth does that make HRC responsible for the content of his speech?

              "Candicrat /noun/: a democrat who will vote for the opposition or not vote at all because their candiate did not secure the nomination."

              by TheCountess on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 11:00:31 PM PDT

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        •   Baloney. (8+ / 0-)

          Nobody put words in the preacher's mouth.

          Rev Wright is a snide narcissist so pleased to have his 15-minutes of fame that he fails to see that he's become a poisonous snake who may just have delivered a fatal strike against the Obama candidacy.  

        •  No. Don't blame this (1+ / 0-)

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          one on the media. Lay the blame squarely where it belongs on Wright's lap. Roland Martin, journalist and CNN contributor reported that he has first hand information that close associates of Jeremiah Wright and Barack Obama have been quietly urging Wright not to launch this full scale assault against the media and Obama. Wright is a jealous, envious, vindictive, arrogant man. He does not feel that Obama went far enough in defending him and the so-called black church.

          Don't blame the media for this. They were DEFINITELY WRONG, Hillary and Bill and Penn and Wolfson were also WRONG. But no one, I repeat no one forced Jeremiah Wright to do and say what he did and said on April 28, 2008.  

          We must use time creatively... and forever realize that time is always ripe to do right. Martin Luther King, Jr.

          by Jezreel on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 03:35:27 AM PDT

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      •  **Oh for craps sake! (0+ / 0-)

        Grow a fucking spine.  Judas Iscariot.  WTF?  Now you're channeling James Carville?  Wright was defending himself and his church.  You don't think he has a right to do that?  He's not gentile enough for you?  I found him funny, pretty honest, and damned entertaining. I don't recall anything he said as being beyond the pale.

        **Yeah, I'm mad! I've been paying attention.

        by greylox on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 12:45:00 AM PDT

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    •  Do you play chess? (1+ / 0-)

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      If you have ever played chess or read anything about it, you know the chess masters see 3-4 moves ahead, sort of like prescience(sp?) . I feel this way the more and more i listen to the right wing talk shows and the MSM.  We are getting mixed reviews from the MSM, however when i listen to the right wing talk radio hosts, the clips they play actually spark you to think about wtf your hearing.

      on laura ingrahm i heard a clip about "My god daughter just landed in iraq, and while some use their position and privilage  (sp?) to aviod going, and yet they have sent over 4000 of our young american boys and girls to their deaths over a lie."  

      Ok get ready the point is, that they think the blue collar guy don't think the country lied, when the first part of the comment makes you consider what he is saying.

      Secondly, have you seen any news about hillary?  umm no. The discussion is that Obama is the presumptive nominee for the democratic party and it wright will hurt him.... can you smeeeeeel what Ba Rock has cookin?  Yeppers i think it is all staged, because it is a win win situation.

      On one hand, you can say hey i renounced his crazy comments and distanced myself from him, and he is doing this anyway. Which makes some realize they are two different people.  On the other hand it will make the people who actually listen to the speeches will see a totally cool and funny Rev Wright. Lastly like i said it keeps the focus on Obama and nothing about Hillary, no coverage of her stump speeches or apperances and every 5 minutes Obama's name is mentioned.  

      Dennis: Come and see the violence inherent in the system. Help! Help! I'm being repressed! King Arthur: Bloody peasant! Dennis: Oh, what a giveaway!

      by wargolem on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 10:40:37 PM PDT

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      •  I'm not so sure (1+ / 0-)

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        this is true, but I have to admit... One of my first thoughts was that lots of people are shocked that Wright has betrayed Obama, and it could start a swell of sympathy, from unexpected quarters.  I was hearing genuine shock and dissappointment even from Hillary and Republican surrogates on the MSM today. The mock outrage was missing, and I thought I detected real sympathy.
        Or maybe I'm just hopin'.

  •  The following have been "defining moments": (11+ / 0-)

    Madrassa-gate
    smoker-gate
    Middlename-gate
    Kindergarten-gate
    NAFTA-gate
    Plagiarism-gate
    Wright_part1-gate
    Bitter-gate
    Bowling-gate
    Orangejuice-gate

    Am I missing any?

  •  Obama wouldn't be "throwing Wright under the bus" (0+ / 0-)

    He'd just be dragging Wright down with him so he can try to get up and avoid that incoming bus.

    "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves." Matthew 10:16

    by Setrak on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 09:51:33 PM PDT

  •  Obama has already spoken his piece . . . (4+ / 0-)

    There was a great speech that he made in Philadelphia a few weeks ago.

    What more does he need to add?

    •  it was a brilliant speech (4+ / 0-)

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      and I compared it to Bobby Kennedy in Cape Town.

      But this is a different problem that Wright has created. This will require a different response, not one broad in scope like the last one. This requires a tactical response directed only at Wright and not at race relations. He has to excise Wright from the debate without taking anything away from his speech in Philadelphia.

      •  Ayup (1+ / 0-)

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        aitchdee

        He avoided dealing with Wright in the Philly speech and he can't actually avoid that, the media will never let that happen.  I think he needs to embrace Wright, stand by his friend, show some real character.  

        And we, O's support, should be helping him with this.  We need to fight back against the swiftboating of Wright.  He's one of us and we shouldn't try to throw him under the bus (we can't anyway).  This is a man who's spent his entire life fighting for the values that we believe in, we don't have to agree with everything he says, but we do have to respect him.

        •  No, I don't think he should embrace Wright (2+ / 0-)

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          at this juncture since Wright seemed to be dissing him. I have been reading the Washington Post blogs and the comments are brutal.

          I remember when I first posted here about Obama's bitter comments, because I was worried about how the media was twisting them. I was told here not to worry, that no one would pay attention to them.

          I am in the media and I can tell you, whether we like it or not, the media is running with this story and Obama needs to seize control here or it is not going to be good. I know how this business works. i am not a troll but I just want people to see reality.

          This is a very tricky test for Obama but he needs, unfortunately - to come out with another speech, like today. Damage control is imperative with the super delegates waiting to see what he does.

          I am very angry with the media for making a big deal out of Wright, who in my eyes seemed embarrassingly clownish at the press conference. If he hadn't taken questions, it would have been Ok.

    •  It's not what was added... (4+ / 0-)

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      ... It's what the Reverend Wright subtracted today.  

      Obamananaramonotophiliac

      by jamesparenti on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 09:59:50 PM PDT

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  •  What I see.. (0+ / 0-)

    is one agenda trying to ride piggy back on the recent success of another....and its way to heavy

    •  I think I understand what you mean (0+ / 0-)

      Can you please elaborate further. Thanks.

      •  Sure... (3+ / 0-)

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        The veterans of the Civil Rights Movement see the success that Obama is having with the campaign, and is attempting to latch onto it to further its goals.

        I see the Civil Rights Movement as all but out of steam and ideas...and Obama has sparked a little life to it for the first time in a long while...

        The problem, however, is that the veterans of the CRM are old and frustrated, and are suffocating Obama's cause..

  •  Personally, I STILL don't see this as a big deal. (2+ / 0-)

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    The media does.  They tell you it is.  Me, I refuse to let the media tell me what I'm supposed to think.  I respect my fellow Americans enough to assume they will see through this crap as well.  Why would I assume that I am smart enough to see through this and that they are not?  That would seem a little "elitist" to me.

    This circus is just part of what is wrong with our system...part of the problem with our politics that the Obama campaign set out to change.

    But if anybody needs a quick line on the subject, they can always quote (and attribute)  Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia (on 60 Minutes) and say that some very good people have some very bad ideas.  You can discard the ideas without discarding the individual.  

    If we are ever going to come together as a nation, however, we need to develop the ability to hear the words of others through the prism of their existence rather than our own.

    •  political problem (7+ / 0-)

      I listened to this morning's event, reread the transcripts, and I cannot for the life of me convince myself that this is not a problem for Barack Obama.

      That doesnt mean that he will not overcome it. I think he will, but as much as I did not think the first Wright episode was a problem, I think this is.

      •  This is way more of a problem (4+ / 0-)

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        than his original comments because he came out and reiterated his earlier comments (including the ridiculous ones about white people creating AIDS to kill minorites) right now, in the middle of the race for the democratic nomination.  I can't but think that he did it out of spite toward Obama--to bring him down for his "dis-loyalty".

        "Candicrat /noun/: a democrat who will vote for the opposition or not vote at all because their candiate did not secure the nomination."

        by TheCountess on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 10:10:03 PM PDT

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      •  It's only a problem because the MSM says so (4+ / 0-)

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        and who gave them the authority to think for us all?  I know I didn't.

        I saw both the NAACP Speech and the Press Club Speech and I'm having trouble finding anything I would disagree with, or at least would not understand as a rational belief.  The AIDS thing?  You could say it's a stretch.  But, as he said to the Press Club, when you consider all the evils perpetrated in the name of America, you can not say it is inconceivable.

        What else?  GD America?  Well, you know, they cut off the last line which was something like "for believing she is God."  That's in the Commandments, y'all.  Thou shall put no other gods before me.

        I mean, I really don't see anything...here.

        A few close-minded people, who weren't going to vote for Obama anyway, will use this as their excuse.  Yay!  We lost the bigot vote!  Guess what, we never had it.  Reagan Democrats who aren't bigots?  I'll bet you, to the extent any were going to vote Dem this year anyway, I'll bet they prefer Hillary to Obama and Obama to Bush III.  That's a bet I'd be very comfortable making..........as a non-elite 50 year old unemployed unskilled HS grad white guy in NC.

        Chill.

        •  I hope you are right (0+ / 0-)

          It is the tone of his appearance this morning that is damaging. He stepped out, quite deliberately, and he must have known this would hurt Obama.

          I think, though, there are plenty of votes that are at play here that are not racist votes. My good friend from Pittsburgh, who I know is not a racist(otherwise he wouldnt be my friend), will be impacted by this. He is in the "considering Obama" category. This will sway his decision, unless Obama gets ahead of it and beyond it.

        •  GD America (1+ / 0-)

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          I think the only way to make this better is to play at least ten minutes of that sermon.  Most people (at least most democrats) will realize that they felt exactly the same way at the time and weren't anywhere near as able to articulate it.

    •  Don't overestimate the ability of the American (2+ / 0-)

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      public to appreciate any amount of ambiguity, subtlety, or complexity.  I'm sure the media can't tell you what to think, but your fellow Americans will see all this on the television and quite a number of them will be permanently dissuade from casting a vote for BHO.  I wish that people were more intelligent:  but they're not--just look at what garbage on TV recieves the highest Nielsen ratings.  This Wright junk is going to go over like a ton of bricks with a ton of shit on top of it.

      "Candicrat /noun/: a democrat who will vote for the opposition or not vote at all because their candiate did not secure the nomination."

      by TheCountess on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 10:07:13 PM PDT

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  •  You're right about one thing. (3+ / 0-)

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    The Republicans' only chance this November is to make the election about race.

    Yup.  And if you thought you were sick of Rev Wright now, just imagine getting more of him.  Hilary puts a stop to that right quick.  

  •  HE can't be that ignorant (5+ / 0-)

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    "what Reverend Wright doesn't seem to realize is that he was not speaking as a pastor this morning - he had entered the realm of politics."

    I think he's being just a little too cute. He understands.

    Coming Soon -- to an Internet connection near you: Armisticeproject.org

    by FischFry on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 10:07:56 PM PDT

  •  hell hath no fury like that of (2+ / 0-)

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    the reverend wright scorned....

  •  It's the generational thing, isn't it? (3+ / 0-)

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    Obama needs to say, Reverend Wright is coming from a different generation. He speaks from the past.

    I want to go forward in a different way, to make a different country than the one that shaped his anger.

    I want this campaign to be about separating the past from the future.

    It's the only way to "distance" himself, and it's been the heart of his campaign from the beginning.

    •  He'll have to give more props to the past (0+ / 0-)

      than he did in Philly.  He was too dismissive of Wright and the Civil Rights Movement.  That's what's come back on him.

      He didn't go to Memphis for MLK's anniversary.  It's possible to distance oneself too much.

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