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McCain's idiotic gas tax plan loses him a vote

Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 09:27:13 AM PDT

So, my father is a civil engineer, and he has worked for a small Maine construction firm for many years. This business is family owned by DEDICATED Republicans...Republicans who have embraced such lame GOP ideas as medical savings accounts, etc. My father, a lifelong Democrat (and Hillary supporter, as far as I know), has generally been at odds with his office mates in terms of political views. But finally, they found something they can all agree on...McCain's gas tax relief plan SUCKS FAT ROCKS.

My mother gleefully sent me this email today:

read this. (Dad's company) are in a panic. (Dad's Boss) isn't even voting for John McCain anymore because of this stupid idea. A republican for Obama!!

with this link.

from the article:

Sen. John McCain's proposed gas-tax holiday would put highway construction at risk and result in the layoff of thousands of construction workers, according to a Milwaukee-based trade group. With roads in poor shape after a harsh winter, the McCain plan couldn't come at a worse time, said Dennis Slater, president of the Association of Equipment Manufacturers, a trade group that represents highway-construction equipment companies.

Under the proposal by the all-but-certain Republican presidential nominee, the 18.4 cents-per-gallon federal gasoline tax would be suspended between Memorial Day and Labor Day, giving cash-strapped motorists a break during the peak driving season.

Both moves would provide relief throughout the American economy, said Jeff Sadosky, a spokesman for McCain's presidential campaign.

In fuel taxes, at least, the proposal would save taxpayers about $9 billion.

But the savings would be short-sighted, according to the equipment manufacturers, since road improvements funded by fuel taxes would be neglected.

I don't need to remind you how BAD this Winter has been on our roads and infrastructure. My father's construction firm didn't think it would have to worry about the recession, since there was plenty of work to do in repairing Winter damage. But then McCain threw a wrench into the works.

Although this article desribes Wisconsin conditions, it can be applied to most of the country:

Under the McCain plan, Wisconsin could lose more than $137 million in federal highway funding, according to Slater.

It would also have a ripple effect on employment. It's estimated that more than 4,770 Wisconsin highway-related jobs would be at risk, he said.

The plan's opponents say the average American might save $28 over the three-month period, or about $2.39 per fill-up. It could backfire by encouraging people to drive more, thus increasing gasoline usage and keeping prices high.

28 bucks. What does that buy? Almost a meal for two at your local Crapplebee's. 8 boxes of cereal. Oh, and more construction layoffs.

Obama is spot on in denouncing this ludicrous plan.

Additional email from my mom I got just now...she sums it up quite nicely.

yeah, it's going to mean huge job loses, crap for roads and bridges, all to get McCain a few more votes, and put a few more bucks into consumers pockets, unless they have ANYTHING to do with highway construction. I hope he falls in the water when a bridge breaks under him. At least construction guys won't need their gas to go to work, just enough to get to the unemployment office. I guess Obama is the only actual SMART person in the race, and the only one with courage enough not to agree with this idiotic, but popular with the masses idea. I'm am genuinely concerned about what this will mean for our family if it gets passed in Congress. I hope their are some Highway and Heavy construction lobbyists lurking around the halls. Governor Baldaci is against it. Not that that will do any good.

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  •  I'm concerned that most people will hear (18+ / 0-)

    'tax relief' and pee their pants with excitement, when in reality it means even crappier infrastructure and miniscule savings. I mean, it would roll back gas prices to, like, 2 weeks ago.

    Oh God I hate McCain. And SHAME ON HILLARY for supporting a dumb idea.

    Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals ... except the weasel. Relentless!

    by ablington on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 09:29:16 AM PDT

    •  Tipped and rec'd (4+ / 0-)

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      ablington, tcdup, paintitblue, LogicaLizE

      Good find; and, with the rollback of prices, demand would go up, and the oil companies would ... raise prices.

      Therefore, the money would be diverted from the government to the oil companies.

      BAD idea, McSame!

      "People should not be afraid of their government; governments should be afraid of their people." --V

      by MikeTheLiberal on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 09:31:26 AM PDT

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    •  Just got an email reply from my mother... (4+ / 0-)

      yeah, it's going to mean huge job loses, crap for
      roads and bridges, all to get McCain a few more votes,
      and put a few more bucks into consumers pockets,
      unless they have ANYTHING to do with highway
      construction. I hope he falls in the water when a
      bridge breaks under him. At least construction guys
      won't need their gas to go to work, just enough to get
      to the unemployment office. I guess Obama is the only
      actual SMART person in the race, and the only one with
      courage enough not to agree with this idiotic, but
      popular with the masses idea. I'm am genuinely
      concerned about what this will mean for our family if
      it gets passed in Congress. I hope their are some
      Highway and Heavy construction lobbyists lurking
      around the halls. Governor Baldaci is against it. Not
      that that will do any good.

      Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals ... except the weasel. Relentless!

      by ablington on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 09:31:29 AM PDT

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      •  This outfit you father works for... (1+ / 0-)

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        ablington

        ...sounds like a little family-owned engineering and surveying firm I used to work for, in Lake Forest, IL. The pay sucked, the eldest son and his kids acted like they were heir-apparents, but the Old Man was a hoot! 90 years old, and an Armour Tech graduate (Armour merged with Lewis Institute in 1941 to form IIT, my alma mater).

        Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight.

        by JeffW on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 10:47:45 AM PDT

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    •  I think tax relief is exactly the theme ... (4+ / 0-)

      ...it is, after all, the GOP mantra for every occasion.  They like to turn tax holidays into whole vacations and then a year-round state of affairs. Someday, however, they'll have to come up with something new because they will run out of taxes to cut.

      (Excuse me if I am a little ranty; I'm pondering the 30th anniversary of California's Prop 13 passed on June 6, 1978 and f'n up state finances ever since.)

      Like a cyclone, imperialism spins across the globe; militarism crushes peoples and sucks their blood like a vampire. K. Liebknecht

      by Meteor Blades on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 09:39:57 AM PDT

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    •  TO be fair to Hillary, at least she is (0+ / 0-)

      acknowledging the shortfall in tax dollars.

      Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals ... except the weasel. Relentless!

      by ablington on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 09:46:11 AM PDT

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  •  8 boxes? (1+ / 0-)

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    MikeTheLiberal

    where do you shop?  quaker toasted oatmeal is north of $5 here.

    •  Yeah. I refuse to pay more than 2 bucks for (0+ / 0-)

      a box of cereal so I am not up on cereal prices. I was thinking cereal was maybe around 3.50 a box but that's probably generous.

      Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals ... except the weasel. Relentless!

      by ablington on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 09:37:03 AM PDT

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  •  the first (1+ / 0-)

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    LogicaLizE

    thing I thought of with the proposed 18 cent tax cut was yeah...I save 18 cents on gas and pay 295 dollars for new tires...sounds like a good idea to me.  I didn't even think of job layoffs, or any of the other problems.

  •  If anything, we need to INCREASE gasoline taxes (3+ / 0-)

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    They're already far lower here than in either Canada or Europe, even though Canada and several of the European countries are net exporters of petroleum.  Higher taxes would do several things:

    1. They would permit us to improve our badly deteriorating transportation infrastructure;
    1. They would permit us to rebuild our mass transit system, both in urban areas and between nearby smaller cities, which is going to be necessary to prepare for the day when it simply becomes impossible to use gasoline the way we do;
    1. They would encourage people to drive more fuel-efficient vehicles, as they do in the countries where fuel taxes are higher;
    1. They would increase the relative attractiveness of public transportation, which would have the effect of increasing its availablity and practicality.

    The very LAST thing we need is any kind of a temporary (or permanent) gasoline tax holiday.

    "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security." -Ben Franklin

    by leevank on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 09:48:34 AM PDT

  •  This is a stunt (2+ / 0-)

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    If Admiral Airhead actually thought this was a good law, how come he hasn't proposed the bill and forced BHO and HRC to vote up or down on it. The reason is that even his RepubliCronies think this is sheit because all of their friends in the construction industry like Bectel,Parsons-Brinkerhoff, KBR-Haliburton, etc would not be as profitable.

  •  No irony of GOP confab in Twin Cities (2+ / 0-)

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    The fact that Admiral Airhead is proposing (in name only) this and the GOP convention is going to be in Minneapolis where that bridge (which is part of the federal highway system) collapsed is simply too ironic. That would have been like had the GOP had its convention in Denver in 2000 less than a year after Columbine.

    That's what we need, more bridge collapses so McCain can propose this idiotic tax "holiday" to enrich the oil companies and then present us with an IOU.  

  •  We need another DNC ad (1+ / 0-)

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    JeffW

    McLame's voiceover of his gas tax holiday proposal while we see contruction workers and engineers on the unemployment lines.

    Might even want to add someone driving over a road strewn with potholes for added effect!

  •  I read the NYT.. (1+ / 0-)

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    JeffW

    I know, I hate that rag lately, but I read it and the said that they have estimated that consumers would save an average of $30.00 from the gas tax holiday. Oh boy, that's dinner for the misses!

    Barack's milkshake brings all the voterz to the yard, and damn right it's better than yours!

    by LogicaLizE on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 10:06:42 AM PDT

    •  The sad part is, that's not even a full tank (0+ / 0-)

      of gas for most people.  I drive a minivan, and even if you drop the price of gas 20 cents, it would still take 68 bucks to fill up my tank.  

      This is all about political expediency for John and Hil.  They couldn't give a rats ass about how this might affect the consumer.  

  •  What we really need is to construct more (2+ / 0-)

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    mass transit (and build so more people will ride it). It's awful, awful, the way it is right now.

    Even in most cities, a majority of people get to work by driving their car, alone.

    The few where this group is a minority includes: San Francisco, Berkeley, the District of Columbia, Boston, Newark, Jersey City, New York City [of course by far the best, only 24% drive a car to work alone],

    (Chicago, Philadelphia and Pittsburgh were just a little over half, Seattle is about 58%, Honolulu is 59% Oakland is 57% Baltimore a bit under 60%, I believe pretty much everywhere else is over 60%)

    Of other major cities,

    Los Angeles: 67% (11% take public transit)
    San Jose: 77% (4% take public transit)
    San Diego: 75% (4%)
    Sacrameto: 73% (5%)
    Phoenix: 73% (4%)
    Tucson: 70% (4%)
    Denver: 70% (7%)
    Jacksonville: 78% (2%)
    Tampa: 78% (3%)
    Miami: 71% (12%)
    Atlanta: 65% (15%)
    Indianapolis: 82% (2%)
    Detroit: 73% (7%)
    St. Paul: 70% (8%)
    Minneapolis: 63% (13%)
    St. Louis: 72% (10%)
    Kansas City: 79% (4%)
    Omaha: 80% (1%)
    Las Vegas: 77% (5%)
    Albuquerque: 80% (2%)
    Buffalo: 63% (16%)
    Rochester: 72% (11%)
    Charlotte: 75% (3%)
    Cleveland: 69% (12%)
    Columbus: 81% (3%)
    Cincinnati: 69% (11%)
    Portland: 61% (13%)
    Dallas: 74% (4%)
    Houston: 72% (5%)

  •  Oh, btw, Congress <3 highway projects. (2+ / 0-)

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    They fucking love their highway projects.

    Maybe (wishful thinking I know), they'll be willing to give up some defense projects for them [still a terrible idea to cut gas tax, we need to build more mass transit, and yeah, I know they'll never give up their defense projects either]

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