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Sat Apr 05, 2008 at 11:42:12 PM PDT

Just how much bullshit do you have to dish out before you lose your soul and is becoming President really worth the price. I have had it and I am sick of the shit that is passed off as political rhetoric from McCain and Clinton

I have finally heard and read enough to reach my breaking point and it is time for the to gp.

When what is known as the Long Parliament was dismissed by King Charles the First, an act which precipitated the English Civil War and led directly to the beheading of a King and the imposition of the first military Dictatorship in modern European History, a puritan member of Parliament addressed the King directly and shouted "in the name of god sir go." 300 years later, Neville Chamberlain was told the same thing by a Conservative member of parliament on the day that he resigned as Prime Minister and Winston Churchill took over and proceeded to lead Britain through the darkest years of modern European history. It is time to once again cut the crap and tell Hillary and John McCain the same thing.

Regarding John McCain, I am so tired of hearing about his being a war hero. One does not need to run through the litany of his war crimes, but they included the deliberate targeting of non-military installations, the se of napalm on civilians, support for the covert wars of the 1980s, the first ands second gulf wars , the imposition of sanctions on Iraq during the 1990s and a call for us to be prepared to use military force against Iran. To me a military hero is not someone who revels in rivers of blood and the fact John McCain celebrates his participation in the use of airpower to terrorize a civilian population should disqualify him for any position of authority.

McCain never turned against the war or apologized for his part in it. ... "nobody made me fly over Vietnam ... Nobody drafts you into doing those kind of things. Thats what I trained to do and that's what I wanted to do." (Robert Timberg: The Nightingales Song p 234)

So as not to forget exactly what it was he volunteered for I offer you the lyrics to Country Joe and the Fish's Untitled Protest:

Red and swollen tears tumble from her eyes

While cold silver birds who came to cruise the skies

Send death down to bend and twist her tiny hands

And then proceed to target "B" in keeping with their plans

Khaki priests of Christendom interpreters of love

Ride a stone Leviathan across a sea of blood

And pound their feet into the sand of shores they've never seen

Delegates from the western land to join the death machine

And we send cards and letters.

The oxen lie beside the road their bodies baked in mud

And fat flies chew out their eyes then bathe themselves in blood

And super heroes fill the skies, tally sheets in hand

Yes, keeping score in times of war takes a superman

The junk crawls past hidden death its cargo shakes inside

And soldier children hold their breath and kill them as they hide

And those who took so long to learn the subtle ways of death

Lie and bleed in paddy mud with questions on their breath

And we send prayers and praises

AS for Hillary Clinton, what can be said for her Hutzpah and bullshit. As I have said before, she by her actions has proven to be even more duplicitous than McCain. I am willing to take McCain on face value because  think he genuinely believes that the extension of US military power and does not care about the effects of that power on civilian populations, who he views as the necessary colateral cost of ensuring the US remain top nation. Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, wasd onbce part of a movement that genuinely believed that the use of military force in Vietnam was wrong headed and criminal.

Unfortunately, and I think this is not unique to her, she has become corrupted by power and the need to maximize your access to it by not standing for anything you can actually be criticized for later. This is both the reality of triangulation and the source of her constant attempts to rewrite her biography to fit her perception of the audience 's needs. I really did not care about he lying about Bosnia, or her refusal to take credit for the crappy decisions made by the Clinton administration, and credit for everything we remember as great about Bill's presidency.

She has however gone too far today in oregon where, according to the CBS political blog, she made the following statements:

“I made a considered judgment, I didn’t make a speech, I made a decision and it was a decision based on my best assessment on what would be in the interest of our country at that very uncertain time.”

“When you want to compare, compare decisions so when Senator Obama came to the Senate, he and I voted exactly the same except for one vote and that happens to be the facts.”

“I started criticizing the war in Iraq before he did. So, I’m well aware that his entire campaign is premised on a speech he gave in 2002 and I give him credit for making that speech. But that was not a decision.”

History is a bitch, especially in the era of Lexis Nexis. Her claim that she opposed the war before Obama is simply not backed up by the fact.

During the Senate's floor debate, Clinton said backing the resolution was "the hardest decision I've ever had to make, but I cast it with conviction. I want this president, or any future president, to be in the strongest possible position to lead our country, at the United Nations or at war." (Associated press, October 11, 2002)

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton said yesterday she supports using force to disarm Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, though she said inspections would be better than war if they can work.
"It is preferable that we do this in a peaceful manner through coercive inspection ... but if it's just more of the same equivocation and prevarication we've had from him before, at some point we have to be willing to uphold the United Nations resolutions," the New York Democrat and member of the Armed Services Committee said during a visit to the Watervliet Arsenal, a military arms producer in upstate New York.
And her spokesman said in yesterday's New York Post that Mrs. Clinton "fully supports the steps the president has taken to disarm Iraq." (Washington Times, March 111 2003)

In closing I would say that her public position toward the use of force in Iraq, as evidenced by her criticism of the President's going into Iraq with too few forces, was not one of opposition to the war, but one which paralleled that of John McCain and she seemed to believe the solution was to send in more US troops than pulling them out</.p>

So much for being opposed to the war before Obama and to make such a claim, that flies in the face of the truth and once again has her running away from the consequences of her actions, merans that she, like king Chales, Neville Chamberlain and John McCain should go in the bname of god before she kills any more American's and Iraqis, Iranians, Afghans and Pakistanis.

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