Obama Sign Slashed in IN

I received this email today, and thought I'd share it on dailykos.

It just reiterates how this is an uphill fight, and how people on multiple sides have an irrational hatred (or just are plain silly) towards CHANGE.

Events like this have a silver lining in my opinion, because I love it when people show their true 'colors' (no pun intended).

From: [name redacted for privacy]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 8:54 AM
Subject: An act of vandalism

This morning, my mother woke to find that her Obama yard sign had been slashed up, mutilated and thrown all over her yard. This was not just kids or even someone who is a "Hoosiers For Hillary" or who typically votes Republican. A kid may have stolen the sign or taken it down. Someone voting for Clinton or McCain may have passed by gave the sign the middle finger salute. But, this act was vicious and meant to make a statement. "Living Black in Indiana", we all know what the message was.
To give you some background, Mom lives at [Street Intersection Redacted] (a high profile place to put the sign). She is, and has been for years, one of few African Americans home owners in that neighborhood.  I know how things were when we moved there back in 1971, but I thought things had progressed to some degree today. This is a good wake up call.
Mom is going to report this to the police and to the Obama office. If you hear of anything else like this happening, please let the local Obama Campaign office know.
BTW, I am putting another sign up in her yard this morning.

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EDIT: I'm highly amused at how many people assume that I am referring to something racial here. I simply said people have a hatred of CHANGE.

Please re-read. I never said that.  But it's interesting that many of you assumed I did.

•  A chilling reminder that the more things change..

  ... the more they stay the same. :-(

  by OReillysNightmare on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:32:14 AM PDT

•  this is news? seriously?

  by gnat on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:32:48 AM PDT

  •  Drunk kids? Always news.

    eom.

    by burrow owl on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:34:02 AM PDT

  •  This is Daily Kos

    not the New York Times.

    It's just a story, and an important one at that.

    by jackbauer8393 on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:34:54 AM PDT

    •  no, it's not an important story

      if a cross was burned in the woman's yard, that would be a story. A sign being torn down, without absolutely zero evidence it was a racially motivated hate crime, is not news. But feel free to infalte it as much as you like.

      America is a big place. There are lots of news stories (here's one from today not yet diaried: 40 NASA Workers from Same Floor Diagnosed With Cancer); this is not one of them. It's a "dog finds stick in woods" story.

      by gnat on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:41:22 AM PDT

      •  racism exists

        even in small ways.

        One anecdote:

        I was in the bathroom stall of a classroom building at a major university. I wrote "Obama '08!" on one of the bathroom stalls, just my little way of canvassing.

        I went back a few weeks later and one of the nicer things that was scratched over it was "God Damn America!"

        I don't care to share the worse things that were written.

        It's all about subtext. The email clearly states that it might have just been a couple of kids.

        by jackbauer8393 on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:46:37 AM PDT

        •  stop the presses: racism exists

          so why waste energy looking for it where there is no evidence of it? It was a campaign sign. in a yard. that was torn down. If this is news in your world, you live the most conflict-free existence I've ever heard of. Perspective, people.

          by gnat on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:49:38 AM PDT

      •  considering..

        I never mentioned it was a racist act, I think you're inflating it for your own agenda.

        At least that's how it appears.

        by Ambboogie on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:57:01 AM PDT

        •  if it's not a racist act, why does it deserve

          a diary? If someone peels an Obama sticker off a car, or spraypaints "McCain Sucks" on a wall, should I write a diary about it? There is so much happening in the world right now, that we debase political discourse by filling this website w/endless anecdotal asides like this. You get one diary a day. That is all.

          by gnat on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:04:52 AM PDT

          •  It deserves a diary

            cause I have a right to write a diary about it.

            You don't like it? Keep it movin'.  

            by Ambboogie on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:07:30 AM PDT

            •  and I have no right to criticize it?

              Stop taking it personally. My only point is a little dose of perspective might be in order here.

              by gnat on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:09:51 AM PDT

              •  I'm far from taking it personally

                I'm just responding to you because you felt the need to respond to a diary where you seem to hate the fact that it was created in the first place.

                It's counterproductive to continually post comments to a diary which you loathe it's existance in the first place, no?

                by Ambboogie on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:12:26 AM PDT

                •  "hate" and "loathe"?

                  I don't hate and loathe this diary: I just find it a non-issue. But as long as we're getting all meta about it, I will say that I think people on this website often ignore well prepared diaries on substanitive issues and flock to diaries devoid of much substance.

                  by gnat on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:15:34 AM PDT

                  •  hmm..

                    like yourself?

                    by Ambboogie on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:20:54 AM PDT

              •  chill out!

                You are being really condescending and dismissive.  If you don't care about the diary, write your own, or go read someone else's.  There is no need to keep on complaining!

                by WahooMatt on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 11:35:26 AM PDT

                •  there's no need to trollrate me either, dude

                  If you don't care about the diary, write your own, or go read someone else's

                  News for WhooMatt: dailykos is not a pep rally. If a diarist expects only to be complimented and praised, never criticized or challenged, he or she has never read a diary at dkos.

                  by gnat on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 12:53:26 PM PDT

                  •  Moron

                    If I expected to be praised, where's my tip jar?

                    Go ahead.. I'll wait.

                    by Ambboogie on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 06:16:07 PM PDT

        •  You've mastered the Obama double-speak

          "I never mentioned it was a racist act"

          From your diary:

          Someone voting for Clinton or McCain may have passed by gave the sign the middle finger salute. But, this act was vicious and meant to make a statement. "Living Black in Indiana", we all know what the message was.

          Sure reads like an implication of racism to me, and likely anyone who as more than a first-grade command of the English language.

          For the benefit of the many, obviously ignorant, folk here levelling criticism in your direction:
          What's the message?

          by jqmilktoast on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:36:48 AM PDT

          •  Yet another person who can't read...

            I didn't write the email I quoted.

            Dummy.

            by Ambboogie on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 09:59:29 AM PDT

            •  I love it when people show their true 'colors'.

              by jqmilktoast on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 11:19:32 AM PDT

              •  oh so..

                you missed the 'no pun intended' comment as well?

                Silly skimmers.

                by Ambboogie on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 06:13:53 PM PDT

                •  Right.

                  Typical dodge. Maybe I just took it (your entire diary) out of context.

                  by jqmilktoast on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 05:59:20 AM PDT

                  •  maybe you did. n/t

                    by Ambboogie on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 09:08:02 PM PDT

      •  Even if it's not racially motivated, vandalism

        of campaign signs is news.  We had a few incidents in the last election around here, too (nothinng racial about it, just Republicans so full of hate that they couldn't even stand to see the Dem's signs up), and at least one was criminally prosecuted.

        by catleigh on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:12:03 AM PDT

        •  exactly

          hate is hate is hate

          automatically assigning it as 'racial hatred' is small minded and as I stated before.. AMUSING.

          by Ambboogie on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:13:10 AM PDT

      •  She did not say it was a hate crime

        ...or racially motivated.

        I live in a Western town, and although the issue of what happens to yard signs in election years may not be the biggest story, the fact is that there is a difference between signs being stolen or just uprooted or torn down and being slashed and scattered – at least a difference to the person(s) whose yard the sign was in.  One feels annoying, the other can feel emotionally charged in a different way.

        I've had the occasional yard sign uprooted, but interestingly, when the slash/scatter thing has happened to my signs, it's always when political tensions are running very high and there's some notable kind of undercurrent of resentment/anger/fear being directed against the person whose candidacy or the issue I'm promoting.  

        The diarist does not point definite fingers, but to me was saying that there was a little more emotional charge to the action than just stealing or uprooting a sign.

        And I think it's fine to note such things on DailyKos, where there really is/can be a community feeling.  I want to be part of the community listening to this diarist.

        by RadioGirl on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:14:31 AM PDT

        •  Much appreciated

          .. thanks for reading exactly what I was saying.

          by Ambboogie on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:22:23 AM PDT

  •  gnat, it is news, because

    all of us need to keep in mind that racism is alive and well.  If someone is willing to slash the sign or do other vandalism, it is quite possible that this person would be willing to hurt the occupants of the home.  Especially if the occupant is a minority member.

    Hate crimes are (or should be, for goodness sake) news.

    by Dar Nirron on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:35:20 AM PDT

    •  Maybe. Or maybe it was drunk kids.

      eom.

      by burrow owl on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:40:03 AM PDT

      •  Maybe.

        How 'bout you let the police decide that.

        by sheddhead on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:59:52 AM PDT

        •  "Put out an APB, and pull officers off of all

          other assignments.  Yeah, a sign was destroyed.  Repeat, a sign was destroyed.  Call the governor, we may need National Guard.

          by burrow owl on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:03:40 AM PDT

          •  Yeah, that's what they'll do.

            You bet, that was exactly what I saw.  Not.

            Great, childish comment, there.

            by sheddhead on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:38:31 AM PDT

  •  News?

    It's a diary.  

    by Same As It Ever Was on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:36:21 AM PDT

  •  I've seed signs trashed all over the place

    I just think you need to consider other (non-racist) motives someone might not like Obama.  Maybe the vandal was really upset about his vote in the Schiavo situation!  More likely, a very strong Hillary supporter frustrated as hell that this insurgent is about to win the nomination.

    I'm not excusing the vandal, but I will say that I've had an urge to do the same thing upon coming across support for politicians I detest...

    by jakester on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:36:24 AM PDT

    •  show me..

      where I said it was racially motivated?

      go ahead, I'll wait.

      by Ambboogie on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:58:21 AM PDT

      •  you implied it here:

        She is, and has been for years, one of few African Americans home owners in that neighborhood.  I know how things were when we moved there back in 1971, but I thought things had progressed to some degree today. This is a good wake up call.

        How is her race pertinent?  You made it so.

        by AlyoshaKaramazov on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:43:32 AM PDT

        •  idiot...

          I didn't write that. The email writer did.

          you're funny. :)

          by Ambboogie on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 10:00:08 AM PDT

  •  last I checked

    this wasn't CNN...

    by Ambboogie on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:56:13 AM PDT

  •  could be anything

    My neighbors have a whole bunch of signs in their yard... some are anti-Norm Coleman and some are new ones that say "Spend money on X (variable), instead of war."  X included things like schools, the enronment, etc.  

    I walked past their house the other day and a whole bunch of their signs were demolished.  My first thought was that some vandal had destroyed them and I was kind of mad.  Then, I got to looking and realized that the Coleman signs were still there, but the "Spend Money on X" signs were the ones that we demolished.  Upon further inspection, I realized that they were made of cheap materials and that it had rained and we had some wind and that that was what had likely destroyed them.  In walking through the neighborhood, I saw other "Spend Money on X" signs (must be a neighborhood thing I wasn't in on) that were in similar condition.

    Moral of the story... don't jump to conclusions about these things.  The local news here runs stories all the time close to elections about the sign wars and people having their signs messed with.  It's lame and sort of scary (definitely a violation of your private space), but it happens.

    by Nathan in MN on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 09:05:30 AM PDT

•  Not so sure it is racially motivated

  Here in Lafayette, campaign sign vandalism seems to be the status quo.  Usually it's immature proponents of one side taking things out on the other side's inanimate objects.

  Doesn't mean it's not a racial thing, but at least in my part of Indiana slashed yard signs are not at all uncommon, regardless of neighborhood.

  by Praxxus on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:34:31 AM PDT

•  i'm starting to wonder about these reports...

  that's all.  just sayin'.  i.e., "see - we can't have a black president b/c see how much unrest that will bring about?"

  scary white people and their scary prejudice... isn't it about time we sent the message, loud and clear, that fear will not dictate our actions?  and be also clear that there will be NO pandering to their racism?  We need to adopt a zero-tolerance policy on this shit.

  by jj24 on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:36:45 AM PDT

•  Caution: Minds Narrowing Ahead.

  Ah My Hoosier Homeland, how I don't miss it at all.

  Given that pedestrians in my hometown are, at minimum, yelled at for walking, and often have bottles chucked at them, this comes as no surprise.

  There should be signs

  And my family wonders why I moved to the East Coast . . .

  by SteamPunkX on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:37:10 AM PDT

  •  Ooh, we should talk about strategies for

    explaining to family that you're never, ever, freaking moving back to the heartland.  My folks, for whatever reason, have recently been trying to guilt me into moving back.  (I'm 30 and change, so it's just weird)

    Do you have that problem?  

    by burrow owl on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:59:06 AM PDT

    •  My Strategy: Invisibility.

      My sister and I were discussing this.  She mentioned that some of our gun-toting cousins now call me "[my mom's name]'s other kid," and I responded "Excellent, my plot to become invisible is working."  So that's my strategy, in a nutshell: not being known to most of my family.

      As far as mom goes, Dad handled that: "what would he do here in [redacted railroad town], pump gas?"

      by SteamPunkX on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:06:11 AM PDT

•  I'm sorry I have to laugh

  Anybody who actually has it in their head that BO becoming President would be some kind of racial disaster, is completely divorced from reality. Every time I hear these stories about sign slashing and what not, I'm surprised. I think it's ridiculous. It's just a backwards way to think.

  by Highwind on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:40:22 AM PDT

•  Say thanks to your mom for her courage ---

  by Wee Mama on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:42:32 AM PDT

  •  It's not my mom

    but I'll pass that along to the writer.

    by Ambboogie on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:59:11 AM PDT

•  I wouldn't jump to conclusions about a yard sign-

  there are always stories around elections about someone taking down someone's campaign signs.  It's usually teenagers or some immature supporter of an opponent.  It happens every election----black, white, whatever.  I've had 3 peace flags stolen from the end of my driveway by my mailbox----always during the summer---when the college kids are home---probably while driving around after a couple of beers.
   And from what I hear from my Indy daughter, there are a lot more signs where that one came from---those vandals are going to have to be real busy----Indiana is fired up for Obama----black, white and all colors---coming together for change.

  by dotster on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:45:35 AM PDT

•  Having once been

  a drunken teenager who did a lot of retarded things, I wouldn't read too much into this.

  by bugscuffle on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:47:05 AM PDT

  •  Right? Sounds like 1 tab too many to me.

    nt

    by burrow owl on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:59:39 AM PDT

•  showing their true colors

  These are the same ppl that helped us get into the mess we are in. Apparently the economy,the war,health care and all the issues that so desperately need to be changed are sufficient for them.Hopefully there are more ppl that want a part in changing our country with hope and rejuvenate our relationship with the rest of the world.

  by desnyder on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:47:52 AM PDT

•  you said people are afraid of change...that is tr

  ue.  However, I agree with some of the posters that it does not necessarily mean racism.  Obama represents change period not just because he is black but because he wants to change the way the US and WE THE PEOPLE operate.....energy, wars, trade.  He is going to ask us  to sacrifice....we don't know how yet and for some that is REALLY SCARY!

  by Jenai on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:49:35 AM PDT

•  If you've never been to Lake County, Indiana

  you have no clue about how racist Indiana is.  It's like Kentucky or southwestern Pennsylvania.  I've lived in the Midwest my whole life (I'm a 57 year-old white woman), have traveled and worked throughout the region, and I've met more blatantly overt racists in Indiana than anywhere else.  There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that the sign vandalism was racially motivated and intended to terrorize the homeowner.

  Indiana isn't like the rest of the Midwest.  It's going to be a hard state for Obama to win.

  by Involuntary Exile on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:56:30 AM PDT

  •  Wow.

    I'll be sure to pass on your sentiments to all the native Hoosier Obama supporters I know.

    -5.88, -6.82

    by Debby on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:49:50 AM PDT

•  I'd love to have an Obama sticker on my car

  but I'm too scared somebody would vandalize it. I live in San Diego in a very military part of town.  Things are odd here because it seems as though everyone has turned apolitical this election cycle.  Nobody would dare to put a Hillary, Obama or even McCain sticker on their car.  

  Last election cycle some of my neighbors put up very large Bush/Cheney banners in front of their homes, but they have nothing up at all now. These people are mostly elderly, retired military.

  I did drive though a more progressive neighborhood this past weekend and was happy to see a few Hillary and Obama lawn signs. It made me want to move.  

  by ryder92111 on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:00:02 AM PDT

  •  read my comment below about Yankee Stadium

    my daughter and what happened to her and my van.

    by byteb on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:26:08 AM PDT

•  this is my favorite fix for this

  Post an equally big sign that every time this sign is damaged you are going to donate another $100 dollars to Barack.  I have seen it effectively stop this kind of thing before and even if it does not it makes people like that stew that they cannot get their way.

  by dan667 on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:00:25 AM PDT

  •  Good call! n/t

    by Ambboogie on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:03:05 AM PDT

•  What Passes for a Diary Nowadays!

  This is not a diary.
  This is not analysis.
  This is not news.
  Has there ever been a campaign where a sign was not slashed?
  Let's bring back the KOS of yore!

  by shamprez on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:02:11 AM PDT

  •  how bout..

    let's bring back the personal decision one makes in deciding to read a diary.

    You saw the title... don't act brand new.

    You don't like it, don't read it.

    HuffingtonPost is THAT way ---->

    by Ambboogie on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:04:11 AM PDT

    •  LMAO @ dont act brand new

      I just said that to my fiance!! :-)

      I dont know what to do with all these new actin people. Geez!!!

      by RemarkablyChanel on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 09:15:25 AM PDT

•  What the hell?

  I'd like to point out that the following quotes are from the SAME DIARY:

  Events like this have a silver lining in my opinion, because I love it when people show their true 'colors' (no pun intended).

  --written by the diarist

  Someone voting for Clinton or McCain may have passed by gave the sign the middle finger salute. But, this act was vicious and meant to make a statement. "Living Black in Indiana", we all know what the message was.

  --written in the email quoted by the diarist

  EDIT: I'm highly amused at how many people assume that I am referring to something racial here.
  Please re-read. I never said that. But it's interesting that many of you assumed I did.

   --written by the diarist

  by Wisper on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:06:06 AM PDT

  •  I can quote an email..

    without necessarily subscribing to everything stated in it.

    It's specifically why I said "no pun intended".

    If I wanted to make it racial I would have said PUN intended.

    What the hell, indeed.

    SO sensitive you are.

    by Ambboogie on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:09:41 AM PDT

•  It got racial at Yankee Stadium..

  My daughter went to the Opening Day Game at Yankee Stadium..which ended up being rained out. She drove her friends in my van complete with Obama sticker on the back fender. While waiting to see if the game was a 'go', she went off to get something to drink and went she got back, not only was the Obama sticker torn off her car but some cretin had it plastered on his ass and he and his friends taunted her, saying that Obama was a n**** and a muslim. He also bent the back windshield wiper and ripped the rubber off the wiper for good measure. To her credit, my daughter stood up for herself, Obama, and the right to support the candidate of one's choosing as well as giving him hell for using a racial epithet. SHe must have been a force to be reckoned with because the idiot and his friends gave her back the sticker, tried to fix the windshield wiper and in a sort of an apology confessed that they weren't even registered to vote. I give my daughter great credit for her courage b/c going head to head with a bunch of Bronx bullies is no small thing.
  But, yeah, it did get racial at Yankee Stadium and my daughter didn't back down.
  Jeebus.

  by byteb on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:09:23 AM PDT

  •  don't talk about that..

    cause it must NOT have been racial, regardless!

    LMAO!

    your daughter ROCKS.

    by Ambboogie on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:11:06 AM PDT

  •  If you or your daughter are ever in Iowa City

    Anything you ever need just let me know.

    Just ask for Moose (anywhere in town).

    by MooseHB on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 11:27:24 AM PDT

    •  thanks! :)

      by byteb on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 12:04:28 PM PDT

•  This isn't news...

  ...nor even significant.

  Toughen up.

  by labradog on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:14:31 AM PDT

  •  who needs to toughen up?

    the email I quoted was neither written by me or anyone in my family.

    Reading is Fundamental, yanno.

    by Ambboogie on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:23:43 AM PDT

    •  logic and reading and context

      are all fundamental: re-read labradog's 8 word comment. You are distorting what some of us have said. A lot of us understood quite well that: a) you were not claiming you knew the act was racially motivated and b) you were not claiming it occured in your yard or a family member's yard. We did read the diary; we did not read into it. It's a question of emphasis and not of parsing.

      by gnat on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:39:04 AM PDT

      •  First of all..

        who is "US".. because it's clear that people figured i was saying that it was racially motivated.. in fact.. that's the basis of the discourse.

        Here YOU go, acting brand new.

        by Ambboogie on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 10:02:43 AM PDT

        •  let me spell it out for you

          a) some of us read the diary

          b) some of us also thought the incident (possibly racially motivated, possibly not, but w/no way to tell) described by the diarist seemed very minor and not especially alarming: perhaps not worthy of a diary, given this

          c) some of us commented that we though the diary was pretty thin on substance

          d) the diarist then proceeded to slander all who commented this way (see c above) as misreading the diary, mislabeling the diarist's concern, being petty, missing the point, etc.

          by gnat on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 01:05:28 PM PDT

          •  LMAO Slander?

            Let me spell it out to you then.

            Y-o-u
            a-r-e
            c-o-m-e-d-y

            Thanks for the laugh, guy.

            Come again!

            by Ambboogie on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 06:15:04 PM PDT

            •  I'm actually a really patient

              person and not at all easy to irritate, so here you go:

              Rather than just re-state your case in the thread (as in "here's why i thought this story deserved a diary, sorry you don't like it, etc..."), instead you just got very defensive w/anyone who criticized it, and implied you had been misunderstood. And then you seemed shocked that this backfired. Something tells me you don't react to criticism well. At all.

              by gnat on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:53:36 PM PDT

              •  Not so.. but that's cute...

                actually I just responded to you the way you responded to me.  

                nothing more, nothing less.

                as I said.. if I was looking for approval I would have included a tip jar.

                check mate. have a good day. :)

                by Ambboogie on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 09:07:00 PM PDT

•  you're wondering how people

  thought you were highlighting racism???

  She is, and has been for years, one of few African Americans home owners in that neighborhood.  I know how things were when we moved there back in 1971, but I thought things had progressed to some degree today. This is a good wake up call.

  I think this paragraph might be what they're referring to.  You can stop "being highly amused" now.

  by AlyoshaKaramazov on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 08:40:59 AM PDT

  •  Nope

    I'm wondering why people can't read.

    by Ambboogie on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 10:01:58 AM PDT

  •  oh yeah..

    and I'm even MORE amused, thanks.

    by Ambboogie on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 10:03:00 AM PDT

•  Indaina and Race and the KKK

  The other day I wondered how Obama could trail Clinton in Indiana, with the large AA contingent in northwest Indiana, and Indianapolis, and a friend reminded me that Indiana is the birth state of the Ku Klux Klan.  Having been to Indiana much over the last four years, as my parents lived in Lafayette for two years, I think Indiana is a pleasant enough place, and I did not encounter outright racial bigotry amongst fellow whites, to my recollection.  But there are few who would disavow even blatant racism in some parts of Indiana, white or black.  And though Ambboogie will not outright call this a racist act, it seems doubtful to me that it was not, and ridiculous to summarily pooh-pooh racist motivations.

  by MooseHB on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 11:33:53 AM PDT

  •  I would agree...

    I LIVE here, and have most of my life.

    Though in this diary I didn't say it I thought it was racial (cause I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to idiots)... it really isn't that far fetched that it might be.

    shrug you never know... either way, I still think people are resistant to change.. be it a woman or a black man.

    by Ambboogie on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 06:20:14 PM PDT