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Media Bias Against Clinton - The Big Picture

Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 06:11:08 AM PDT

Recently Hillary repeated the allegation that the media is biased against her.  She complains that there are double standards when reporting on her versus her opponent.  

Clinton supporters agree.   Obama supporters scoff or see it the other way.   What both camps agree on is that the media is currently not covering Clinton as if she were the inevitable nominee, as they once did.    

There is no doubt that the media is not always fair.    Iraq is just the latest example of media bias leading us down the wrong path.  

But there is another side to Clinton's current claims of bias which, when looked at through a larger frame, render those claims irrelevant in this presidential race.

No doubt when the media reports favorably on us or our candidate, we don't see this as bias.  Instead we see this a fair.   They got it right.  

When media reporting is unfavorable or embarrassing to us,   the idea of bias more readily springs to mind.  

Newspapers routinely endorse candidates.   When Hillary Clinton received the NY Times endorsement early on, I don't recall hearing that she turned it down with an explanation that she is against media bias.  

She felt she deserved that endorsement.   Hillary (by her own admission) feels, in her heart-of-hearts, that she is the best candidate for president.  Many people surrounding her will say the same thing.   I'm not going to debate that opinion.   Hillary believes it to be true.   She believes she is more electable.    Yet electability, like love, is in the eye of the beholder.  And while I might believe in my heart-of-hearts that I should win American Idol,  that doesn't mean everyone else will agree.

As this race has progressed, Hillary has lost her lead.   She has managed to lose her lead in the polls (in some cases where she is still ahead, she has lost significant points.)   She has managed to lose in delegate count.  (Delegate count as recognized by the rules.)  And she's managed to squander her incredible name recognition and at the same time drive the powerful Clinton political machinery, left behind by her husband, into a ditch -- all while competing against a relatively unknown black man with a funny name.    Then too, there is the enviable lead she had in Super Delegates which is now down to an insignificant difference, and likely will be lost altogether in the coming month.  

We all know the reasons.  The 4-Ts.  Tone, Tactics, Temperament and Ties -- Ties to the likes of Mark Penn and... well... ironically Bill Clinton.  His taking $800,000 to lobby for trade agreements in Colombia is just a recent spate of problems he has caused his wife -- for the obvious reason that it is difficult to believe a candidate who claims she is against such agreements while surrounding herself with its supporters.  

I'm not going to cover Hillary's problems in depth here.  We are a politically astute group and those of us who are not familiar with Clintons gaffs on the campaign trail can research articles here and elsewhere if we choose to do so.  

Instead, what I'm going to argue is that Hillary's attempt to paint the media as biased, is really just another campaign ploy.  Some have called it "working the refs."  

But it is a disingenuous ploy when you consider the situation.    

Here a DKos, we've seen this site take on a decidedly pro-Obama slant in recent months.   Many times I've seen Clinton supporters bemoaning this fact.   MoveOn.org formally endorsed Obama after taking a vote of it's members which was overwhelmingly in favor of endorsing him.   Other media outlets too have endorsed Obama -- both overtly, as the Rolling Stones and LA Times have -- and unofficially, like Keith Olberman and many of the Air American personalities.  I'm sure you can name more.  

Here is the point of argument:

The first newspaper I saw endorse any candidate was the NY Times' endorsement of Clinton.    Lately (and especially among more progressive outlets) the endorsements, overt or otherwise, have favored Obama.    

This is not a symptom of a Vast Left-wing Media Conspiracy.   It is a matter of choice.    Had MoveOn.org decided a year earlier to take a vote of its members, that vote might have favored Clinton (due heavily to name recognition).   But as time has passed, and people have had a chance to learn about and consider these two candidates, more seem to be drawn to Obama.  

This is called "making a decision."  In the big picture, it is the result of a competition.   Those judging have to, at some point, make a choice.    Many of us (including higher-ups in the Democratic party) would like to see the Super Delegates make their decisions soon -- certainly sooner than on the convention floor.  

Hillary herself has argued that the Super Delegates are free agents and can choose the candidate they feel is best suited for the job.  Her arguments for them to choose her -- most of which I find unconvincing -- are aimed at eliciting that decision.    

Yet as we see with Bill Richardson's endorsement of Obama, the Clintons feel that if the decision doesn't favor them, then it is traitorous and inherently unfair.   Obviously they would not be calling Richardson a Judas had his endorsement come to them.  

The same is true of the media.   As time has passed and those in the media have seen the Tone, Tactics, Temperament and Ties of the two remaining candidates, they have made their decisions to support Obama -- either through outright endorsements or through something the Clintons see as unfair:  The efforts of the media to report accurately and fully on the unappealing side of the candidate they have decided against... instead of giving them a pass or looking the other way.  

Trusted media, of course, is accurate in regards to both camps.  And just like the Super Delegates, can change their mind right up until the final vote is cast.    

But when the facts don't favor a candidate, reporting as if both sides as if they are equal, when they are not, is not journalism.  Nor is it fair treatment.   Fair, means accurate.   It doesn't mean that if you spend 20 hours of air time exploring Clintons ties to Penn, a central figure in the Clinton campaign, and how much influence he has had in her campaign and in her life -- that you have to balance that coverage by manufacturing 20 hours of time exploring Obama's church and his retired minister.   A person who, as much as you may disagree with his statements, is not a central figure in Obama's campaign.    

Reporting fairly and making a choices as the candidates become more defined by their own campaigns is not a conspiracy.  It is not unfair.  It is simply a fact of life.  This is politics and politics requires that, at some point, you make a decision on the candidates and choose one over the other.  

The Clinton's are always saying how they love the fight -- how they love campaigning and they love the race.    But one has to suspect that Bill's invitation to "saddle up and have a discussion" is really an invitation to "saddle up and go along for a ride" -- so long as Bill has the reigns.

The truth is, they only love it if they are winning.

When the ride doesn't go their way, or an endorsement falls to the other camp, they cry foul and show poor sportsmanship.

Rational people know that you can't have it both ways.   The people at DKos spent months analyzing campaign stories, and the worst they could pin on Obama was something that his ex minister said 6-years ago that is taken out of context... and regardless of the context, could be see from the point of a black man as not all that over the line (especially when you consider MLK said many of the same things in slightly different language.)   Or that one of his staff called Clinton a monster -- a situation that was dealt with immediately including a sincere apology to Clinton from the staffer as well as her release from the campaign.    

And then they analyze the Clinton campaign stories including her lack of payment of bills and financial mismanagement of her campaign; surrogates like Ferraro making racially insensitive and ignorant comments and then refusing to apologize and instead playing the victim; or NAFTA-gate which includes, in my mind, everything from "Shame on you Barack Obama", right up to the recent revelations of Hillary's promoting of NAFTA as First Lady;  And her top advisor, Mark Penn, along with her husband working to promote similar trade deals.   Yes, the list is longer.  But lets stop there.  

These Clinton problems are large-picture issues.  They raise questions on her judgement, her ability to manage something as large and complex as a campaign, and her ability to make good choices in the people she surrounds herself with and counts on for advice.  

For media to make a choice -- Choosing to back Barack Obama -- is not media bias.  It is politics.  It is the point of the entire process.

Unfortunately for the Clintons, it's not a guarantee.   A fair race means you don't have any guarantees.   The outcome is determined by how well you run and the strength of your ideas and message.   You win some, you lose some.  

So when you hear the claim by the Clintons of media bias, think of this argument:  Is this bias?   Or is this simply the citizens of this country, including those in the media, making a decision after a long, hard campaign?  

After all, isn't that decision what it's all about?    

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  •  I don't doubt that the media is (3+ / 0-)

    biased in many, many ways (some of them unique; some of them vicious) against Hillary Clinton. Of course, in other ways they're biased toward her.

    Frankly, the media is so deeply flawed that I'd be shocked if that weren't true. I'm just not sure what we're supposed to do with that information, as voters. Other, I mean, than try to unravel the bias and measure all the campaigns' media management abilities, which are pretty important in a president.

    •  doubt it. (0+ / 0-)

      they have been scared shitless to cross her, maybe - but negatively biased?

      no.  absolutely not.  had it been, i wouldn't have had the "inevitable HRC" shoved down my throat for the past year + change.

      Arianna - when you're right, you're right. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/memo-to-obama-moving-to-t_b_110026.html

      by jj24 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 08:35:25 AM PDT

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      •  Are you very young? (0+ / 0-)

        Because there's actually a bit of established history re. the media's negative treatment of Hillary Clinton.

        This is probably a pretty good place to start looking!

        •  no, honey, i'm not young enough to get the (0+ / 0-)

          patronizing treatment.  thanks anyway! lol

          i experienced the 90s and found them wanting, as regards the bullshit clinton national drama.  wouldn't have exactly called it that back then - just mildly annoyed, i guess.  but now, i know it for what it is:

          crazymaking.  from the artist's way:

          Crazymakers are those personalities that create storm centers. They are often charismatic, frequently charming, highly inventive, and powerfully persuasive. And, for the creative person in their vicinity, they are enormously destructive. you know the type: charismatic, but out of control, long on problems, and short on solutions.

          Crazymakers are the kind of people who can take over your whole life. To fixer-uppers, they are irresistible: so much to change, so many distractions...

          If you are involved with a crazymaker, you probably know it already, and you certainly recognize the thumbnail description in the paragraph above. Crazymakers like drama. If they can swing it, they are the star. Everyone around them functions as supporting cast, picking up their cues, their entrances and exits, from the crazymaker's (crazy) whims (pp. 44 and 45).

          spittin' meet image.

          Arianna - when you're right, you're right. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/memo-to-obama-moving-to-t_b_110026.html

          by jj24 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 09:05:56 AM PDT

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          •  That was actually a real (0+ / 0-)

            question. Sure sounded patronizing, though--sorry. Still, I'd be interested in hearing what you think of the first couple thousand examples on that link I gave.

            •  i'm not all that interested in HRC-as-victim. (0+ / 0-)

              i haven't clicked... i don't want it to appear that one more person validates the alternate reality.

              sorry to take offense, but please forgive me for saying, i don't think you should assume who people are just because they don't buy into this latest "poor me" story.

              Arianna - when you're right, you're right. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/memo-to-obama-moving-to-t_b_110026.html

              by jj24 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 10:22:27 AM PDT

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        •  Well that's a poor example (0+ / 0-)

          I did click your link (It is to Media Matters with a generic search on the term "Hillary Clinton.")   Among the articles you cite re. the media's negative treatment of Hillary are:

          Scarborough on Obama's "dainty" bowling performance: "Americans want their president, if it's a man, to be a real man"  

          Dobbs asked if Obama is "pandering to ethnocentric special interests again" by accepting Richardson's endorsement  

          Coulter back on MSNBC -- "think[s] it's funny" to refer to Obama's middle name  

          In editorial, NY Times misrepresented Obama's position on public financing

          After asking, "Do the Obamas have a race problem of their own?" Hannity continued to smear Barack and Michelle Obama  

          Hannity repeatedly distorts passage in Michelle Obama's senior thesis to suggest alumni views on race are her own  

          On CNN Headline News, Goldberg compared Obama, FDR to Hitler  

          CNN online poll echoes smears by asking if Obama "show[s] the proper patriotism"

          McLaughlin echoes smear of Michelle Obama: "You don't think she's a black militant?"

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          I think you just lost your own argument.  

          Are you very old?  Maybe you need to get a new prescription for your bifocals.  :)  

  •  the media and Hillary (1+ / 0-)

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    The fact of the matter is, the media is a business which sells a product: in this case, the news.  It's a business that relies on ratings to make its money, by ad revenue.  So, the media will concentrate on whatever they think will get them the most viewers.

    And there's simply not much to say about Hillary Clinton that's going to grab viewers, because the public has been VERY familiar with Hillary for the past 15 years or more.  We've seen her, we know who she is, we know about her, we've already got opinions formed... it's just not that interesting.  So, the media goes in search of a shinier, newer product to grab people's attention.  And Barak Obama is new, we don't know as much about him, he's different, he's eloquent and says interesting stuff... so, they focus on him and try to sell him as a product to get viewer's interest and bring their ratings up so they can charge more for commercial time.  It's as simple as that.  There's no "bias" against Hillary for any more sinister reason than there's not much new there to talk about.  

    "Those who dance appear insane to those who can't hear the music." - George Carlin (R.I.P.)

    by shadetree mortician on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 06:27:31 AM PDT

    •  I think you're missing something though (0+ / 0-)

      Yes, the media is a business selling a product, but for the most part, all media outlets are part of large corporate conglomerations that have strategic visions and seek strategic alliances, including alliances in government.  Thus, you get a media that has an inherent top down bias in favor of the politician they think will get them the best deal.  And as need not be stated, large corporate conglomerations will salivate at the prospect of a bunch of people who champion 'deregulation' having power as such music brings visions of dollar signs dancing through their heads.

      But I think you are also misconstruing what is going on with the media as between Obama and Clinton.  Essentially what it seems you are saying is there is a media bias against Clinton, but that bias is not unfair, it is just standard operating procedure, not insidious in any way.  I couldn't disagree more.  The media is not bias against Clinton.   Quite the opposite, actually, at least since Super Tuesday.

      Yes, they are in the business of selling ad time which is dependent on ratings, but I don't think their drive lately has anything to do with showing their audience a shiny new object.  If you know the media is out to sell ads, follow it to it's logical end.  Not only do they want to sell ads, they want to sell more ads on more days and thus make more money.

      Right now the media is saying 'wouldn't it be great to have Super Tuesday ratings in May!'  And the only way of achieving those ratings is by creating the illusion that this thing isn't totally wrapped up. Thus you see a sudden shift from chronic Clinton bashing to propping Clinton up, while the over riding concern, long term strategic plans, and deals with the McCain administration, over riding all other concerns.

    •  Coverage of this campaign has been cartoonlike (0+ / 0-)

      Everyone just sits and waits for another Wile E Coyote run over the cliff. They show Clinton's outlined hole in the ground in Tuzla, BAM! and Obama grabbing the tree root and saving himself from Wright. WHEW!

      Over and over and over.

      And here's the real moneymaker! Despite Clinton's pockmarked landscape at the bottom of the cliff, she is still in the running, which is seriously pissing off Obama's breathless hanging above it all crowd.
      And what better thing to put on the news/entertainment/vie for your ad dollar shows than a good episode of survivor. It's even grabbed the good citizens of Daily Kos by the throat.

      Stay tuned!

      •  Well put. It's entertainment. (0+ / 0-)

        I see no evidence of systemic bias one way or another.  The media coverage of Obama pisses me off to no end very frequently, and I can easily see why its coverage of Clinton pisses her supporters off to no end as well.

        Our media sucks.  Let's leave it at that.

        But no, Clinton "whines" about unfairness, while Obama - a much bigger person and bigger-picture thinker - gets what's really going on and isn't going to whine about petty shit.  The class was Hillary taking Russert & co. to task for always asking her the first question in debates, as if being given the opportunity to set the tone for responses is a bad thing -- and then falling for Russert's jump ball when he sent out a tough question directed at neither candidate in particular and she jumped all over the chance to frame it by answering first.  

  •  What should concern (3+ / 0-)

    all of us is that whatever anti-Hillary bias exists is also anti-Democratic bias on the part of the MSM. Compare the way the media treats her with the treatment McCain is getting; it's worlds apart.

    That's the strategic issue here, not the lamentations of Hillary supporters who think it's all a grand conspiracy to keep 'our girl' down.

    Still all about electing Democrats.

    by MBNYC on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 06:29:15 AM PDT

    •  Agreed (1+ / 0-)

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      At this point, the media is throwing mud at both Democratic candidates hoping something sticks.    When we look at this from an unbiased point of view, we realize that neither candidate is being pandered to like McCain is... and will be once the Primary is over.  

      My point is that when something goes wrong in the Hillary campaign, like Mark Penn going to Colombia and then being reported on.  That's not media bias.   That's media reporting on an issue.  

      Just because the issues stop favoring a client doesn't mean the media is biased against her.  It means her handling of the issues doesn't favor her.  

      And that lead to groups -- like DKos -- coming out in favor of one candidate.   After enough issues stop favoring a candidate, the choice is made.  

      That is what the campaign is about... making a choice.  

  •  Penn worked for Columbia, not Bill (0+ / 0-)

    You wrote:

    His taking $800,000 to lobby for trade agreements in Colombia is just a recent spate of problems he has caused his wife

    Or is that a typo?

  •  In a perfect world... (0+ / 0-)

    This would be true:

    But when the facts don't favor a candidate, reporting as if both sides as if they are equal, when they are not, is not journalism.

    I appreciate you saying it, though, to remind us. :)

    Every time I remember seeing MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell state that she was on the trip to Bosnia with Mrs. Clinton, I get the white-hot flash of anger all over again. Why did this "journalist" not comment during the multiple opportunities she had before the lie was exposed about her different memory of the incident?

    It's really gotten to the point where journalists seem afraid to state the facts as they know them. It's like they're waiting for someone else to say it first so they'll have plausible deniability.

    You're in debt and completely fooled that you can look in the mirror and objectively rank your wounds --DCFC

    by Saska on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 06:31:24 AM PDT

  •  Wow Did You Finish Weak (1+ / 0-)

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    For media to make a choice -- Choosing to back Barack Obama -- is not media bias.  It is politics.  It is the point of the entire process.

    Uh... no, it isn't.  Not only is that not the point of the process, it's more or less 180 degrees different from the point of the media.  The point of the media is to give "the people" objective information, and for "the people" to choose.

    ---- now they sit and rattle their bones and think of their bloodstone days...

    by TooFolkGR on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 06:31:28 AM PDT

    •  Sorry wasn't finished with my though (1+ / 0-)

      ...otherwise what you end up with is candidates who ONLY have to cater to the media to succeed.  (See: John McCain).  He chums it up on his bus and buys them diet coke at gas stations, so he never gets tough questions.  Magically, he wins the Republican nomination and gets a free ride through the rest of the primary system.

      This is not "The point of the entire process."  This is seduction and exploitation of the gatekeeper.

      ---- now they sit and rattle their bones and think of their bloodstone days...

      by TooFolkGR on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 06:35:00 AM PDT

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      •  Not bad though for being written at 5 a.m. (0+ / 0-)

        I think I've paid enough respect to the idea of the media being impartial with:

        Trusted media, of course, is accurate in regards to both camps.  And just like the Super Delegates, can change their mind right up until the final vote is cast.    

        But we can't expect those in the media to listen to NAFTA-gate, Bosnia Sniper Fire stories, and poor management of her campaign and then expect them to dig and dig and dig for anything that might resemble those gaffs in Obama's campaign.  The media is not biased if they report Hillary is having trouble paying the bills.  They don't regain some magical impartiality by lying to us and claiming that Obama can't pay his bills either.  

        Facts matter.  If the facts line up predominately against one candidate, saying so is not a disservice, nor is it being biased.   It is simply stating the obvious.  

  •  She has ran a lousy campaign, period (2+ / 0-)

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    brooklynliberal, Muzikal203

    he has ran a better. If she can't beat an untested and inexperienced senator with a funny name, exactly how will she beat McCain? Usually who runs a better nomination campaign runs a better general campaign.

    You usually get what you paid for.

    by IowaMike on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 06:32:35 AM PDT

    •  No she was not so liberal as Obama and this year (0+ / 0-)

      the liberal base was energized and expanded so she was doomed from the very start because of the war. She was never going to win. Ever.

      Sorry I have to run to the Senate floor to abolish torture.

      by bten on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 08:30:05 AM PDT

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      •  Could have gotten the base (0+ / 0-)

        was leading in the polls early on. Made a choice to campaign on "experience." Was never smart enough to fix it when it wasn't working. It has been a bad campaign, ran poorly.

        You usually get what you paid for.

        by IowaMike on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 09:03:50 AM PDT

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  •  Wow--Please speak for yourself here... (1+ / 0-)

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    No doubt when the media reports favorably on us or our candidate, we don't see this as bias.  Instead we see this a fair.   They got it right.  

    Some of us are actually capable of more than this.

  •  had she been anyone else (2+ / 0-)

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    she would be the Huckabee of the dems.  Every media outlet would talk about how she can't possibly win and write articles about why is she still there and advertise the fact to voters that she can't get the delegate count.

    She is Hillary Clinton so she is big news and gets the pass.  What could be better for the news biz than the Clintons?  First you have the comeback kid aspect then if they should win the nomination the fun begins of finding all the dirt (and there WILL be dirt) and if by some major miracle she got elected 4 more years of 24 hour scandal buzz and a regenerated Fox News to lead the way for the media message!

    For Hillary's part whining how mean the boys are to her because she is a girl gets her base to be protective of her rather than asking why can't she tell the truth or run a better campaign?

    •  Vetted (0+ / 0-)

      How many times have we heard Clinton, surrogates and the media repeat the line that she is the better candidate because there are no surprises.  She's been vetted.  

      Mark Penn,  Bill Clinton paid by Colombia to lobby for the trade deal, unpaid bills, sniper fire.  

      Yeah, she's vetted alright.  

  •  The media tend to create narratives (0+ / 0-)

    and stick with them, no mater what.  McCain denounced Falwell & Robertson in 2000, therefore he's a "maverick straight talker" even though he's flip-flopped on that.  Hillary is cold and calculating because she doesn't bake cookies and she wanted to keep her last name.  Obama is still new-ish and they're still working aout the storyline - and trying to see how far they can go with the "scary black church" angle without looking racist.

    I'm an Obama supporter to the core.  But it is freaking RIDICULOUS when Hillary's getting choked up for a moment is a major media event ("Does this mean she's too emotional to be President?  Or too calculating?"), while Mitt Romney getting teary-eyed (while he was still in the running) goes unnoticed.

    You can't unring my wedding bells - NO ON 8!

    by Tara the Antisocial Social Worker on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 08:37:45 AM PDT

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