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I'll tell you about mine if you tell me about yours

Sat May 10, 2008 at 03:34:37 AM PDT

Your mother, that is. Or the person or people who mothered you, if that's the path your life has taken.

My mother doesn't do Mother's Day, so I have no interesting Mother's Day stories to tell. But as I'll detail in the body of this diary, this is, after a fashion, very much a tribute to my mother. And I invite you to respond to it with a tribute to your mother figure(s) in whatever fashion you see fit.

See, Mama tells stories. Lots. Often. Sometimes the same one to the same person in the span of five minutes. Some months ago, I suggested she write her stories in a book so we'd be able to refer to them by number when she started telling one in public. She thought this was a particularly amusingly rude suggestion, but I was serious. (Still no takers.)

I suggested she call it, "Stories My Kids Are Tired of Hearing." That would be volume 1. "Baby Stories My Kids Are Tired of Hearing" would be volume 2. Then I suggested volume 3, "Stories My Kids Are Tired of Hearing Me Tell Wrong" -- because, though my mother has a background in journalism and an even more exhausting background in keeping track of her four living kids (don't worry about it), she sometimes loses a fact and replaces it with one from another story. Frequently, when we're in public (which hasn't happened since the wife and I moved from Virginia to Texas), she'll start telling one of her stories, and I'll wait for when she gets something wrong, at which point I will jump in and say something like, "Mama, one of these days you'll get that story right, but this is not that day."

Integral to this is that I treat her like someone who is very old, means well and can't remember where she put her glasses when they're on her face. I do this with gestures. Occasionally I even get all the way through it without--

She will then swat me. (You only think I'm making this up. Would I lie to you?)

I will respond, "You can assault me all day, vile woman, but you cannot make me wrong!"

Oh, did I forget to mention that she only starts telling stories about us with people she trusts. These are people who will laugh at that exchange, not, for example, vegetarians who will politely remember they left roast cooking.

I have inherited my mother's proclivity for telling stories, which I am confident shocks every Kossack, even the ones not reading this, to levels previously unreached. (And you thought BUSH was bad. HAH!) Fortunately, the details of my stories are generally verifiable on the Internet, so if I am worried that I have gotten my Mendeleev and my Mengele mixed up, I simply consult a few sources and proceed like I never had a doubt in the world.

In my intro, I invited Kossacks to share stories of the people who, well, raised them. Since my mother had a desk job for much of my childhood, my father spent a lot of time raising us. (My mother gets really pissed off when, responding to "What does your husband do for a living?" she said "He stays at home raising our four children," and was met with ::laughs:: "Yes, but what does he DO?")

I inherited my father's sensitivity. You've seen it in some diaries. (The snark, though, is all me. I got that from the Web.)

Both of my parents taught me that how a person treats you need not determine how you treat them. Some people are nasty because they don't like you, and some people's default is just abrasive, and they don't mean to be rude. And some are just horribly confused, or alone, or they act out because they need positive reinforcement and role models. (Growing up, I knew a LOT of people from Column C.)

From my mother, I get my attention to detail, which makes me such a fucking annoying copy editor. (The traditional media employ a lot of copy editors with a lot of years of experience who make a lot of mistakes. It's painful.) From my father, I get the overall picture, which makes these diaries flow -- except this one. But this diary isn't supposed to flow, so there. Ha.

From my mother, through her father, I get a pretty much undying respect for the person willing to take a bullet for me. Doesn't matter if I think the conflict is legitimate. Soldiers don't choose where they go; they merely choose to be ordered to go.

From my parents, through their appearances, I get my lack of concern for others' appearances and concern instead for what they think, why they think it and how much they care about other people.

From my father, I learned that real men cry. (He benches over 700 pounds. Anyone who says that isn't real better be Lou fuckin' Ferrigno.) When Red Auerbach died, I was beside myself. I was beside myself for about a third of writing tomorrow's diary, which makes me tear up just thinking about it. (You think I tease, but it is so worth it, Kossacks. So worth it.)

From the lives my parents were forced to lead as children, I get the impetus to be very fiercely protective of children (which is one reason I was a year from being a licensed teacher before I switched majors). I get the confidence to see that something is not right and the confidence to say so (when I'm not afraid I'd be fired. Principles don't pay the bills yet.) I get their respect when I disagree with them and can take them on in an argument. (Took my mother years before she figured out I wasn't stridently disagreeing with her because I hated her but because I wanted her to understand me. My father is largely too tired these days for such arguments.)

From my parents' cultural upbringing, I get the uncanny ability to recognize most Top 40 songs from the '60s and '70s (and some from before). I've also acquired some of my father's "That's the guy who played the waiter in 'Bosom Buddies,' which is the only sitcom I can think of that featured two copywriters living in one apartment."

And from things I shouldn't know about child abuse and things I do know about it, I get the desire to tell stories other people haven't heard. Some of them are really painful to tell and to be told, like tomorrow's. Some of them are bitterly fun to tell because if they aren't fun, they're painful, and it's more fun to laugh at our repeat of the 1880s than to cry over it. Plus, having fun leaves one more open to discussing it, which leads to figuring out how to stop it.

So now I've told you about my parents (each of whom was mother and/or father, depending on the circumstances). Tell me about the people who raised you.

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  •  post a tip jar (6+ / 0-)

    in honor of your mama.

    "I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent" --Gandhi

    by dsharma23 on Sat May 10, 2008 at 03:40:08 AM PDT

  •  Bad memories there. (9+ / 0-)

    I do love my mother-in-law, though.

    Having credibility when making an argument is the straightest path to persuasion.

    by SpamNunn on Sat May 10, 2008 at 03:58:19 AM PDT

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    Forgot, sorry. Got other things on my mind right now.

    "Homeless veteran" should be an oxymoron.

    by iampunha on Sat May 10, 2008 at 03:59:30 AM PDT

  •  Good diary (15+ / 0-)

    Makes a person think of all the good things about their parents.  I miss mine a lot.  My mother was brilliant.  She was a physical therapist and raised five of us more or less successfully.  She was adamant about proper grammar and etiquette.  The girls were supposed to be ladies at all times, even if it killed us.  At the same time we were supposed to know how to swim, fish, chop wood, cook on a campfire or wood stove, ride a horse, do minor household repairs.  When I started driving a forklift for a living, that was cool with her, as long as I didn't forget to act like a lady while doing it.  

    My father was funny.  He was an undertaker.  I guess you need a sense of humor for that job.  He was the king of silly jokes, like "People are dying to to business with me."  and called himself a 'Southern Planter.'  

    I learned love of life from my father, love of all living creatures.  I work with animals and have three dogs and two cats.  I passed this passion on to my kids.  From my mother I learned how to be graceful under fire, which has come in handy lately (but that's another story).

    The last time I saw my mother was Mother's Day 2001.  We were all there in her hospital room, on a sunny warm May day.  We were laughing over old pictures, old memories.  The last image I have of her is sitting up in her bed, her bright blue eyes shining.  That night, after she made sure we were all okay, she let go and passed on.  

    Thanks for letting me tell you this.  Thanks for telling me your story.  I think I'm gonna have a great Mother's Day....Thanks.

    Always ask yourself: WWDD

    by karesse on Sat May 10, 2008 at 04:06:33 AM PDT

    •  Thank you (8+ / 0-)

      for telling me about your mother and for reading about mine.

      Strong women raising strong women is a beautiful legacy in this world.

      (My parents were also sticklers for propriety with language -- and not just English.)

      "Homeless veteran" should be an oxymoron.

      by iampunha on Sat May 10, 2008 at 04:10:23 AM PDT

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    •  My mom, a physical therapist and mother of 5 (13+ / 0-)

      is 83 and still a force of nature.

      She's still mothering her brood of children and grand-children. She always  encouraged us to be our best, to be independent, and to be good persons.

      My Dad always referred to us children and our friends as "young persons" never "kids" or by any other diminutive. (He was an teacher.) This is an important point that might be missed by some. When my mother was born women were not considered "persons" under Canadian law.  (See: Person's Case )

      The word "person" always had a much broader meaning than its strict legal definition, and it therefore had been used to exclude women from university degrees, from voting, from entering the professions and from holding public office. The definition of "person" became a threshold test of women's equality. Only when Canadian women had been legally recognized as persons could they gain access to public life. After 1929, the door was open for women to lobby for further changes to achieve equality. As women across Canada can confirm today, that struggle continues.

      Mom's childhood in the Great Depression shaped her world view. She encouraged charity, physical activity, self-discipline and mental toughness. (She was in the Roal Canadian Air Force.) She discouraged over-emphasis on material things.

      Thanks  Mom!

      Thanks karesse and iampunha for the opportunity to share a bit here.

  •  I was raised by a lot of people coming into (10+ / 0-)

    and out of my life. Yes, I had a mother and father who had a hand in it, and yes my mother told those stories too.  Funny I grew up hating those stories and not repeating them myself. But the biggest influence on my Life were the animals who came and went through the years. There was the old knowledge that I picked up in bits and pieces.  Life and death, old and young. Order in life. And for that I am greatful, and remembering.  Great diary.

    "Though the Mills of the Gods grind slowly,Yet they grind exceeding small."

    by Owllwoman on Sat May 10, 2008 at 04:15:07 AM PDT

  •  My mother raised five of us... (12+ / 0-)

    ...two of us were six-year old twin boys she adopted when their mother (my dad's ex-wife) choked to death in front of them at a restaurant.  She already had two kids of her own (me and my younger sister) and was 26 years old at the time.  I still don't know how she managed to do it -- and then my little brother came along too.

    My mom is bipolar -- and I remember her designing and sewing elaborate Halloween costumes for all of us, decorating the house to the nines to scare the neighborhood kids, and then crashing so hard after the holiday she couldn't leave her bedroom.  She eventually did get help and though it took a lot of work and time (and a lot more painful post-holiday crashes), today she is well.

    She divorced from my dad when I was seventeen and began to put together another life -- one that still included her family but left more space for herself.  She finally got her degree (something she had put on hold when she married) and at the ripe old age of 52 became a high school English teacher.  She acted upon her feelings for a close female friend and the two have been partners for the last fifteen years.

    I have immense respect for the sacrifices she made to raise us as best as she knew how, but I am even more impressed with what she has accomplished since gently but firmly pushing us out of the nest.  With two kids of my own now, it can sometimes be a struggle to not lose yourself in the process of parenting.

    I love you mom.  Happy day to you.

  •  I always thought that when I became an adult (10+ / 0-)

    that I would view my family life a little differently than I did while I was living it.  I was wrong, I had it right even as a 3 year old.  I am, however, able to view it without pain now.

    I'll never understand how a mother can love and care for all of her children but one.  It baffles me to this day.


    The religious fanatics didn't buy the republican party because it was virtuous, they bought it because it was for sale

    by nupstateny on Sat May 10, 2008 at 05:20:20 AM PDT

    •  {{{{{{HUGS}}}}}} (2+ / 0-)

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      by cfk on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:10:45 PM PDT

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    •  My mother would say the same (4+ / 0-)

      She has struggled for the better part of a century now wondering what it was. (I understand the reasons, but why should the person most affected by them have to accept them?)

      I am glad that you saw this diary as an opportunity to be honest, not yet one more day on which to lie or issue forth some generalization. I can imagine how Mother's Day conversations must feel when you are torn between saying the truth and not killing the conversation. If you'd like to share them, I'd love to read stories about your mother -- and about the positive influences on your life when you were a child, as motherly figures (whether in name or in function) are but one facet of our lives.

      My mother's perspective on her mother has not changed significantly in the last 40+ years. With time and therapy, she has grown to be able to joke about it, and picking a Mother's Day card with a subtle context (her mother ignores the context if she gets it -- doubt she gets it) is always fun.

      "Homeless veteran" should be an oxymoron.

      by iampunha on Sat May 10, 2008 at 03:17:13 PM PDT

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      •  It is interesting to me - (0+ / 0-)

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        as I grow older - my view of my mother and me changes....

        and as I am growing quite older - and have experienced life more - I am less and less critical of her - and the great differences we had - or I thought we had - at the end of her life .....I understood -

        I knew what she meant - and luckily for me - I had the time to tell her - that she was wise beyond her years - and the I was grateful for her guidance and love.

        "Proud to proclaim: I am a Bleeding Heart Liberal"

        by sara seattle on Sat May 10, 2008 at 10:02:41 PM PDT

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        •  How fortunate (1+ / 0-)

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          that you were able to share that knowledge with her. Too often, so the lament goes, we realize such integral things only once the person on the other end is no longer there to hold it physically, so to speak.

          "Homeless veteran" should be an oxymoron.

          by iampunha on Sat May 10, 2008 at 10:19:07 PM PDT

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    •  Ow :( wish I had a magic wand to make it right.. (1+ / 0-)

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      by berkeleybarb on Sat May 10, 2008 at 09:44:26 PM PDT

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  •  My mum... (10+ / 0-)

    ...is the toughest person I've ever known.

    She separated from my father when I was 8.  So for a while it was just myself, my little brother and her.  We lived in the basement of one of her coworkers at a hospital in Queens.  She could've given up and we could've sunken into poverty.  She called us The 3 Musketeers.

    But my mum, she's the indomitable type.  She fought to get us out of that basement and into a much better life.  We got out of that basement, she got remarried and we started a new life elsewhere.  She got us better.

    Today she lives in a nice 3 bedroom 2 bath home in Orlando, not too far from me.  I still remember living in that basement, and I thank my mum for having enough tenacity and hope to get us a much better life.

    My mum's a living, breathing marvel.  If not for her strength, I would've never made to where I am today.

    "It's better to vote for what you want, and not get it, than to vote for what you don't want, and get it." Eugene Debs, 1912.

    by cybrestrike on Sat May 10, 2008 at 05:21:13 AM PDT

  •  great diary...thank you!! (2+ / 0-)

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    and great comments...

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    by cfk on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:09:02 PM PDT

    •  The comments are the reason (3+ / 0-)

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      I wrote this.

      I know my mother, and I know her relationship with her mother, and I know this day isn't sunshine and lattes for everyone.

      (A friend once suggested I'd be a good therapist. I talk way too much about myself for that to be feasible, but I can do this much.)

      "Homeless veteran" should be an oxymoron.

      by iampunha on Sat May 10, 2008 at 03:19:05 PM PDT

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  •  Mom came up from a hard existence. (4+ / 0-)

    Her mother died when she was 3  years old.  She and her two older brothers were farmed out to various aunts and uncles because my grandfather was a bit of a rolling stone.  When she was about 15, he remarried and brought the kids out to Hawaii, where he settled down.  

    He was, as she described it, a domineering male chauvanist, long before the term had been coined.  He did not like that his daughter was going to college (this was 1938), nor that she took a job as a reporter.  When she wanted to take flying lessons, he put his foot down. My mother did what any self respecting woman would have done.  She moved out, and took a ship back to the mainland, then hitch hiked and rode the rails across the continent until she ended up in New York.  

    There, she met and married my father, a Jew.  Her father refused to correspond with her from that time on.  

    Because of her own damaged family life, keeping things close in the family became very important to her.  She kept in touch with her brothers (despite the distance), and made sure that we were a tight family unit. She raised us, eventually went back to college to finish her degree and became an Asst. Dean at the University.  

    She taught me to have my own opinions, to care for my family and to do the right thing.  Neither me nor my siblings were raised with any religion.  We were left to experiment (Mom took me to some Quaker Sunday School meetings , but, when I expressed the preference to spending Sunday playing with my Jewish friend -- I played with my Christian friends on Saturday-- that was fine with her). But we had a strong moral center.

    Mom passed on from cancer almost 11 years ago.  She had first contracted it in 1980, had fought it into remission, but had a relapse and a metastasization.  But she fought on.  

    My only regret is that my twin daughters never really got to meet her.  They were born about a year before she died.  I have tried to tell them things about their grandma.  I hope that they have learned something from her through me.

    John McCain - Practicing the old style of politics for the past 72 years!

    by Its the Supreme Court Stupid on Sat May 10, 2008 at 09:02:12 PM PDT

    •  In many ways (3+ / 0-)

      your mother and mine had similar experiences. Her mother is still alive, but she is much more about society and keeping up appearances than being close to her youngest.

      I think a lot of my parents' closeness with us comes directly from the incredibly underwhelming experiences they had as children. I am just sad that they had to know what shouldn't be before they got to experience what should.

      "Homeless veteran" should be an oxymoron.

      by iampunha on Sat May 10, 2008 at 09:26:10 PM PDT

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  •  I see that I am the age of your parents (4+ / 0-)

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    judging from the comment about 60s and 70s music.  Nevertheless, this is also true for me:

    Took my mother years before she figured out I wasn't stridently disagreeing with her because I hated her but because I wanted her to understand me.

    except that I'm not at all sure she's figured this out, still.  My Dad raised me to think critically and argue a point, which is something my Mom did not find comfortable at all.  She's 90 now.  (Which is to say: lucky me, b/c I have been able to keep her much longer than most people get to keep their Moms.)

    Mike: "I miss my sense of outrage." Kim: "I know... What was it like?" [Garry Trudeau, Doonesbury (from memory)]

    by berkeleybarb on Sat May 10, 2008 at 09:35:44 PM PDT

    •  Birth years: (2+ / 0-)

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      My mother: 1956
      My father: 1958 (which is revealed in a diary I am still writing)

      "Homeless veteran" should be an oxymoron.

      by iampunha on Sat May 10, 2008 at 09:49:02 PM PDT

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      •  Ah, no - not quite - (2+ / 0-)

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        I am older - born just under 3 years after my dad-to-be was released from a Japanese prison camp in the Philippines.  Your folks heard that music as children, while I was a young adult :)

        I look forward to your next diary!

        Mike: "I miss my sense of outrage." Kim: "I know... What was it like?" [Garry Trudeau, Doonesbury (from memory)]

        by berkeleybarb on Sat May 10, 2008 at 10:06:35 PM PDT

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        •  Thanks to him for serving (2+ / 0-)

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          "I am older - born just under 3 years after my dad-to-be was released from a Japanese prison camp in the Philippines."

          I have a story, for when the time is right, about the "I like it here" club. (You might well have heard it. I've no idea how common it is.)

          And another future-diary teaser: one of the songs that was a significant part of the antiwar movement has an almost entirely unknown anniversary coming up. May 24, I believe. Good luck figuring out what in the heck I'm talking about:)

          "Homeless veteran" should be an oxymoron.

          by iampunha on Sat May 10, 2008 at 10:17:11 PM PDT

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          •  Oh great! :) (2+ / 0-)

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            I will look forward to the above.

            My Dad actually was not in the service - he was 4F (do folks who did not have a draft know that classification? - physically unfit to serve) b/c of a broken eardrum, and once described to me the devastation he felt at being rejected.  About a week before he and Mom were to be married in August 1941, his boss at the US Treasury told him he was being sent to the Philippines.  He was stuck there when Pearl Harbor was attacked, imprisoned at Los Banos, rescued in one of the (I'm told) most brilliant and unknown military exercises of the war, and returned in April of 1945 (and they were married 1 May - a speed not recommended when two people have changed radically).  I came along in late 1947.

            Mike: "I miss my sense of outrage." Kim: "I know... What was it like?" [Garry Trudeau, Doonesbury (from memory)]

            by berkeleybarb on Sat May 10, 2008 at 10:45:38 PM PDT

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            •  Didn't (can't) serve, but (2+ / 0-)

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              I know 4F. My father told me about it. If the draft is ever reinstated, my brother and I plan to have matching 4F shirts made, walk into the rooms of our respective draft boards, and say, "OK, gentlemen. Which reason for my inability to serve requires the least amount of paperwork?"

              Even if Don't Ask, Don't Tell is overturned, I am still 4F there and back again.

              My grandfather served, but saw no action, in World War II. He saw a lot of action in Vietnam and Korea, and one of those conflicts is the one from which the POW club story is from. I'll get my mother to ask her mother for as many details as possible for a meaningful day on which to tell it.

              (In case you think you are hijacking or going horribly OT, fear not: This is the precise reason for which I write these diaries. Also a lot of other reasons, but this one is up there.

              "Homeless veteran" should be an oxymoron.

              by iampunha on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:05:35 PM PDT

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