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If the price is right, you've got  a friend in John McCain

Sun May 11, 2008 at 03:09:28 PM PDT

I've never done any favors for anybody — lobbyist or special interest group — that's a clear, 24-year record.  -  John McCain

Along with his claims of being a straight talker and a maverick, it is nothing less than laughable for John McCain to say that he's never done favors for anybody, and there's a clear record that proves it. From the time he rode into politics on the back of his wife's family fortune, until he gathered a team of lobbyists to run his 2008 presidential campaign, John McCain has been in the pocket of special interest groups.

In recent weeks both the New York Times and the Washington Post have featured articles that explore how McCain, the self-described foe of lobbyists and special interest groups, has used his influence to help broker land deals that benefited big-money contributors.

From the New York Times we learned that Donald Diamond, known as the Arizona version of "The Donald," a McCain Innovator who has raised more than $250,000 for the campaign, made a $20 million profit on a land deal that was made with the help of McCain's senate staff.  And McCain has done more than just open doors for Diamond.  Over the years he has either sponsored or co-sponsored bills that authorized federal land swaps that were to the advantage of Diamond, one where the government paid him $23 million for land appraised at $5 million.  And yet, according to a McCain spokeswoman, he "had done nothing for Mr. Diamond that he would not do for any other Arizona citizen.''   Yes, just another average Joe who happened to donate over $55,000 to McCain campaigns, raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for his presidential bid, vacationed with him in the Bahamas and attended World Series games together...just another Arizona citizen.  And Mr. Diamond's take on the article?  

I think that is what Congress people are supposed to do for constituents. When you have a big, significant businessman like myself, why wouldn't you want to help move things along? What else would they do? They waste so much time with legislation.

And from the Washington Post, another story of a McCain brokered land swap that will benefit one of his campaign fundraisers, helped along by the lobbying efforts of former McCain staffers and a major McCain donor.  In 2005, McCain pushed through legislation that would allow Arizona rancher Fred Ruskin to "trade remote grassland and ponderosa pine forest here for acres of valuable federally owned property that is ready for development," and once the legislation was passed, Ruskin turned over the development of the land to Steven Betts of SunCor Developments, a McCain Trailblazer. Naturally, "there is 'absolutely no' connection between his contributions to McCain's presidential bids and the deal involving" Ruskin.  It's just another coincidence in a long line of coincidences where John McCain's actions happen to benefit the people who finance his campaigns.  

In 1994, Del Webb Corportion, a company that had donated more than $56,000 to McCain campaigns, were attempting to arrange a trade for land in the Red Rock National Conservation Area.  When a U.S. House bill was passed that would have expanded the area to include the land Del Webb wanted, a lobbyist for Del Webb contacted McCain and he placed a hold on the bill, tabling it indefinitely.  And after the lobbyist cut a deal with a delegation of Nevada congressmen to approve the trade, McCain removed his hold and the bill was passed in the Senate.  It should be noted that Del Webb eventually paid the government $10,900 per acre for 4,000 acres...it had been appraised at $36,000 an acre.

Of course they all haven't been winners.  In 1998, under the guise of protecting the environment, McCain tried to put together a land deal to protect a wilderness area part-owned (70%) by Carl Lindner, that would have given him several thousand acres of the Tonto National Forest near Scottsdale, Arizona, in exchange for his land.  The deal eventually fell through, but many thought it was an odd attempt by McCain to burnish his less than stellar environmental record by proposing a deal that was opposed by nearly every environmental group in Arizona, not to mention the U.S. Forest Service and the Arizona Game and Fish Commission.  But it certainly would have been a boon to Carl Lindner, a man who not only donated 300,000 dollars to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, but who, as the chairman and chief executive of American Financial Group, at one time employed Charles Keating as corporate counsel and executive vice president. McCain's incestuous roots seem to be as connected as those of an aspen.  And speaking of Charles Keating...

While the Keating Five scandal that earned John McCain a slap on the wrist from the Senate Ethics Committee for exercising "poor judgement," brings to mind McCain's part in delaying the government's seizure of the Lincoln Savings and Loan at the behest campaign contributor and personal friend, Charles Keating, a delay that eventually cost U.S. taxpayers $2.6 billion, what's rarely mentioned is his wife and father-in-law's involvement with Keating in a...you guessed it...land deal.  After McCain's role in the Keating Five scandal was revealed, McCain paid back $13,433 for flights he and his family had taken on Keating's private jet, and he eventually donated $112,000 (the amount he had received from Keating) to the U.S. treasury, but his wife and father-in-law, who had invested $359,000 in a Keating-owned strip mall held onto their investment, later selling it for $15 million.  

The moral of this story seems to be, if you are interested in real estate, John McCain is the man to know.  Or, for that matter, if you need an advocate for beer distributorships, telephone carriers, railroads or mining companies.  If you are a patron, then you've got a friend in John McCain.  Even as he insists that:

I have carefully avoided situations that might even tangentially be construed as a less than proper use of my office.

Not carefully enough.

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  •  McCain: Integrity You Can Afford (13+ / 0-)

    "Some of you may decide that my FISA position is a deal breaker. That's ok." - Barack Obama

    by Joe Beese on Sun May 11, 2008 at 03:11:03 PM PDT

  •  I think you're misread McCain's quote (11+ / 0-)

    I have carefully avoided situations that might even tangentially be construed as a less than proper use of my office.

    Clearly, he considers using his power and influence to grease the way for big contributors and lobbyists to be a proper use of his office.

    -dms

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    by dmsilev on Sun May 11, 2008 at 03:11:47 PM PDT

  •  Maverick to the Millionaires! (6+ / 0-)

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    Sweet are the uses of adversity...[Find] tongues in trees, books in the running brooks, Sermons in stones, and good in everything. -Shakespeare, As You Like It

    by earicicle on Sun May 11, 2008 at 03:12:08 PM PDT

  •  Twenty-four years in the senate, (5+ / 0-)

    and never did anything for anyone.  Sorry, John, but not even Clinton's non-college grads will believe that bullshit.  

  •  Holy shit, (5+ / 0-)

    does anyone not know that he does earmarks through Kyl?

    •  Kyl is a buddy of Lieberman. (1+ / 0-)

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      Birds of a feather.  You know the rest.  Lieberman was on with Wolf Blitzer today, and Wolfie said that McCain was lucky to have Lieberman as a supporter.  These guys must live, not in a bubble, but in a vault.  I can't stand the thought of that man representing Connecticut, and Wolf Blitzer apparently doesn't know which end is up.  

  •  Plutocracy trumps democracy (4+ / 0-)

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    It's in the Republican platform.

    Sweet are the uses of adversity...[Find] tongues in trees, books in the running brooks, Sermons in stones, and good in everything. -Shakespeare, As You Like It

    by earicicle on Sun May 11, 2008 at 03:15:27 PM PDT

  •  Pathological (4+ / 0-)

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    Is Hillary his lost sister? They both believe their own B.S. Of course, you see this pattern of behavior in all aspects of American culture. We need to stop accepting this type of behavior in our leaders and our corporations.

  •  There was an article somewhere re: McCain (2+ / 0-)

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    And how his "holier-than-thou", my-actions-are-pure attitude was dangerous in the way that it molds him in the same way as Can-Do-No-Wrong Bush.

    http://gameoftheday.wordpress.com/

    by sharris0512 on Sun May 11, 2008 at 03:16:46 PM PDT

  •  The GOP is about money and corporations. (7+ / 0-)

    That's pretty much what it is. Oh sure, some purulent moralizing and authoritarianism to take away our sexual and personal freedoms, but it's mostly money for corporations.

  •  Ad idea (6+ / 0-)

    Play "You've got a friend in me" in the background while showing all the cases in which McCain has helped monied interests.  This could be a very good interest group ad.

    "Polls are like crack, political activists know they're bad for them but they read them anyways."-Unknown

    by skywaker9 on Sun May 11, 2008 at 03:19:01 PM PDT

  •  Rules, laws, regulations (4+ / 0-)

    Who needs 'em. Repub ideas in a nutshell.

    "They waste so much time with legislation."

  •  There's a word for McCain's quotes here. (3+ / 0-)

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    Lies.

    "It's no wonder more people call themselves Democrats; it's easy to identify with a party that identifies with you." --srmjjg

    by Dragon5616 on Sun May 11, 2008 at 03:19:34 PM PDT

  •  psst, missing a number. (1+ / 0-)

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    Usually I pass on pointing out typos, but it appears to be a missing #  -

    But it certainly would have been a boon to Carl Lindner, a man who not only donated "[?] 00,000 to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth

    My Karma just ran over your Dogma

    by FoundingFatherDAR on Sun May 11, 2008 at 03:24:19 PM PDT

  •  McCain = Bush 3.0 (3+ / 0-)

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    Get yer sticker here!

    http://www.cafepress.com/...

    (yeah, that's mine. hey, help a guy out!)

    me talk pretty one day.

    by mudskipper on Sun May 11, 2008 at 03:25:33 PM PDT

  •  It would be nice if the corporate media would (1+ / 0-)

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    give even half the attention to this story that they gave to the Reverend Wright non-story.  But I wouldn't count on it!  That's why I call them the corporate media.

  •  But, Just Think of All the Free Beer! (0+ / 0-)

    Although, I guess a pickled brain would explain a great deal about Senator McCentury over the last years.

    "The Use of Unnecessary Violence Has Been Approved." Keith Olbermann

    by CityLightsLover on Sun May 11, 2008 at 03:27:42 PM PDT

  •  Oh, It gets a lot worse than all that.... (4+ / 0-)

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    McCain's influence peddling on seedy land transactions has done a lot more than make millions for his cronies and political contributors.  Please read the sad story of the Dineh Navajo in Black Mesa, Arizona.  Their plight, among the most tragic of contemporary Native Americans, shows the terrible human consequences of John McCain's seriously flawed psychological makeup.

    The unvarnished hypocracy of Sen. McCain, in campaigning as "Mr. Clean" - while bathed in special interests, lobbyist money, and item after item of apparent corruption, must be vocally challenged.  That's not "dirty politics" - its 'speaking truth to power'.

    "Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is No Vice; Moderation, in the Pursuit of Justice is No Virtue." - AuH2O

    by Press to Digitate on Sun May 11, 2008 at 03:35:20 PM PDT

  •  If he claims to be either a straight talker or a (0+ / 0-)

    maverick, he is a fraud.

    "Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed." General Buck Turgidson

    by muledriver on Sun May 11, 2008 at 03:37:25 PM PDT

  •  Again, Talk About Signs Of Contradiction! (0+ / 0-)

    One thing I've never been able to reconcile about John McCain is the the great contradiction of his character.  That he is uniquely imbued with fortitude and perseverance is beyond question;  frankly, I myself would not survived a week in the Hanoi Hilton.  However, there are other virtues and gifts which are not so obvious in the endowment of his character, ie., right judgment and prudence.

    I, for the life of me, cannot determine whether this thirty-year history of crawling into bed with contemptible villains like Keating is the result of McCain's venality or simply the unfortunate result of allowing himself and his iconic status as a national hero to be manipulated by grifters.

    Whatever the reason, McCain's penchant for alliances with persons of dubious character could be evidence of his own dearth of character, or it could be equally damning as a sign of imprudent judgment or intellectual sloth.

    (BTW, Lieberman is just the latest in a long line of perfidious poltroons who have managed to make their way to John McCain's doorstep.  This reminds me of Warren Harding: "I have no trouble with my enemies," Harding said, "but my damn friends, they're the ones that keep me walking the floor nights!"  And we all know how well that worked out!

    •  There is nothing special about John McCain (3+ / 0-)

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      That he is uniquely imbued with fortitude and perseverance is beyond question;

      What about the other US POWs? What about brave Nazi POWs? Brave Al Qaeda POWs?

      McCain's war record proves nothing about his character. Nothing at all.

      This is the single biggest challenge for Democrats is to knock down the phony St. John the Maverick Superman POW image.

      McCain's post-VietNam actions show that his character is rotten to the core. The only confusion comes if people think being a POW somehow means he's a saint. The more obvious conclusion is that McCain has been a dumb psychotic bully his whole life, and to the extent he wasn't play acting after cutting a deal with the Vietnamese, McCain's Vietnam actions were those of a psycho.

      •  I Don't Think This A Wise Tact For Fall... (2+ / 0-)

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        Besides, most people will concede that exceptional heroism is often displayed by the most unlikely people.   John McCain and Admiral Stockdale were two very high profile prisoners, and they suffered excrutiating and endless torture for over six years.  That is beyond dispute.

        And we cannot sink to the level of Swiftboating McCain. We're better than that.  Whatever may be his manifold sins since he arrived back in the States in 1973, or the deficiencies of his youthful character before his plane went down in 1967, John McCain acquitted himself honorably and heroically during that six year period of his life with a sacrifice which puts me absolutely to shame.

        That, however, does not earn him the Presidency.  It does not work like a plenary indulgence.

        •  Shackleton was a cheat and a deadbeat (1+ / 0-)

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          but a good leader of a small group of people when things got really tough.  Don't think he'd be a good president however.  McCain has same problem.

          You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

          by Cartoon Peril on Sun May 11, 2008 at 04:50:26 PM PDT

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        •  Nothing special about McCain (0+ / 0-)

          I notice you didn't respond to any of the content of what I wrote. That is because you couldn't. There is nothing special about John McCain, being in the military, or being a POW. McCain did nothing special.

          Being a POW simply means being captured. Nazis were captured and tortured by Soviet prison camps during World War II. Did they show what you call "exceptional heroism"? Do you admire those old Nazi POWs? Would you vote for one? Do they "put" you "absolutely to shame"?

          Do you believe that anyone who hasn't been a POW should feel "absolutely to shame"? Are they all second class citizens compared to the POWs and McCain?

          It's amazing that the whole bigoted thing about us all being inferior to POWs survives on a progressive site.

          •  Well, You Certainly Can Hold That Opinion... (0+ / 0-)

            But it won't help sell our progressive agenda to the nation at large.

            Swiftboating McCain is not only poor sportsmanship, in my opinion, but it is also a prescription for electoral disaster.

            But, hey, we're all entitled to our opinions.

        •  I'm sorry he was held captive, but he (0+ / 0-)

          didn't volunteer for that duty.  It happened as a consequence of his fifth plane crash.  The man was probably a very bad flyer.  Not everyone gets in so many accidents.  One of them was when his plane got tangled in power lines and put out the electricity in some Spanish town.  His wife says he's also a bad driver.  Just google McCain's five plane crashes.  By the way, it was all on wikipedia, but it has been cleansed away lately.  You know, the navy had to finally relegate him to the classroom because he could not be trusted to teach flying in actual planes.

          •  You Know What, Guys... (0+ / 0-)

            This may be a generational divide (although I really don't think so.)  I'm old enough to know that, for whatever reason McCain found himself in the Hanoi Hilton, I would not have been able or willing to trade places with him, and I seriously doubt I could have endured the ordeal -- just like I seriously doubt I could have spent five years in Leavenworth like a good many conscientious objectors and reentered society to lead anything like a productive, normal life.  

            I'm willing to stipulate that John McCain possesses a history of remarkable heroism.  But, as I stated earlier, that isn't the same thing as granting him carte blanch for everything that came after 1973.

            He wasn't off drunk on some National Guard bivouac in Alabama during that time, nor was he playing ROTC games and getting student deferments in England.  He was being mercilessly interrogated on a daily basis as a high-profile prisoner whose father was a very high-placed Admiral of an opposing armed force.

            I also have respect  for the guys who stood their ground and went to that hell hole at Leavenworth. Those were the times. Some guys were able to take the consequences, and most avoided the circumstances.

            The Hanoi Hilton has absolutely NOTHING to do with John Keating, or the procession of lobbyists, or the plastic political alliances, or any of the other questionable items in the McCain biography.  However, just as we were indignant that John Kerry's honorable service was questioned by scoundrels, we should demand likewise that McCain's honorable service be respected and, in the light of the sacrifices being made at this very moment by good men and women in Iraq, it should be affirmed.

            The difference between Lieutenant McCain and Senator McCain is that, at the time his plane went down in Hanoi, he did not have any say-so about being there -- just like our service personnel in Iraq.

            •  I still don't get it (0+ / 0-)

              What in the hell is "heroic" about surviving captivity.  It is nothing other than survival.  BTW, how many of the other guys who were in the Hanoi Hilton got 28 medals after they returned home?  I'm betting on none.  The only reason why John McCain is considered a "hero" and got all those medals for "heroism" is because his dad was a big shot in the Navy.  If John McCain had been your average "Joe" he would not have been recognized for his "heroism".

        •  What is "beyond dispute"? (0+ / 0-)

          That is beyond dispute.

          As far as I can tell all we have to prove that he was tortured is what John McCain tells us.  To me that's about as much "proof" is the Bush Administration telling us something is true.

          •  Well, I Guess That's That. (0+ / 0-)

            But I'm telling you, this isn't a wise public stance if you wish for us to win in the Fall.  McCain's public life is fair game, but his military service is simply out of bounds so far as the greater part of the American public is concerned.  You go there at your own risk, and to quote Alexander Pope, "Fools rush in where angels fear to tread."

    •  Liebermann as a "Perfidious Poltroon" -precious! (0+ / 0-)

      McCain goes through life looking backwards. Explains why he crashed five planes.

      by organicdemocrat on Mon May 12, 2008 at 02:30:02 AM PDT

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  •  Slightly OT, but about McCain (1+ / 0-)

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    In another diary, someone use the phrase "the best and the brightest" to refer to Obama's exemplary campaign staff. I pointed out that this was not a compliment, as it is the title of a book by David Halberstam about the Kennedy/Johnson advisors who got us enmeshed in the war in Vietnam. When I went to Amazon to link to the book, I found this quote:

    "For anyone who aspires to a position of national leadership, no matter the circumstances of his or her birth, this book should be mandatory reading. And anyone who feels a need, as a confused former prisoner of war once felt the need, for insights into how a great and good nation can lose a war and see its worthy purposes and principles destroyed by self-delusion can do no better than to read and reread David Halberstam’s The Best and the Brightest."
    --from the Foreword by Senator John McCain

    -emphasis mine

    Another flip-flop by McCain/

    You fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is "Never get involved in a land war in Asia".

    by yellowdog on Sun May 11, 2008 at 03:38:22 PM PDT

  •  This is what worries me ... (1+ / 0-)

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    ... about John McCain:

    "John McCain has been in the pocket of special interest groups."

  •  Just the same old, same old (3+ / 0-)

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    pay-to-play politician willing to sell this country's future for pennies on the dollar.  What a crook.

  •  Del Webb... (2+ / 0-)

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    ...if it's the same company I've heard of, is not exactly a savory group. They're in one of my law school textbooks in an example case on public nuisance (Spur v. Del Webb).

    Basically, they built a retirement community next to a cattle yard. And didn't tell the people buying lots in the retirement community that it was next to a cattle yard (and that's why the land was so cheap). So naturally, when the retirees moved into the lots and started complaining about the smell and the flies, what did Del Webb do? Sue the cattle yard to try to force them out. Class acts.

    O it is excellent to have a giant's strength: but it is tyrannous to use it like a giant. --Measure for Measure, II.2

    by RogueStage on Sun May 11, 2008 at 03:50:16 PM PDT

    •  also tried to get Air Force base shut down (1+ / 0-)

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      If my memory is correct, the community (Sun City, near Phoenix, AZ) was also built under the flight paths for Luke Air Force Base.  Del Web, or the Sun City residents, filed suit against the US Government to get the AF BAse shut down or moved.  The base, which had been a temporary base for years -- all of the buildings were trailers -- was declared a permanent base, and they started on a big building program.  (When I was a teenager, we shopped at Luke AFB.  My father was retired career Army and we had shopping privileges, but there weren't any nearby Army posts.)  

      And again if my memory is correct, Sun City was gerrymandered into a school district with a mostly lower income mostly Hispanic town (Peoria, I think).  The residents of Sun City (most of whom had never had children) voted down bond issue after bond issue, to the point where the Peoria schools at all levels were running on triple sessions.  I lived in a less well-to-do area in western Phoenix that had trouble getting a bond issue passed for another high school.  I went to high school on double sessions -- 6am to noon one year, noon to 6pm the next.  I don't even know what kind of hours triple sessions involve.  I believe the resolution was to rework the school district so that Sun City is in no school district and pays no taxes that go to schools.  

      Drowning for knowledge in a sea of information?

      by Quaker Warrior on Sun May 11, 2008 at 07:01:57 PM PDT

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  •  McCain: "Maverick" or One of the Herd? (2+ / 0-)

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    Sepia toned heroic image of John McCain superimposed over a classic Western background featuring a lone bull or lone cowboy.   Voice over begins quoting two or three media sources saying McCain is a Maverick, and his own man.  Grand sweeping western movie music in the back

    [Narrator] So what makes a Maverick

    [McCain] Quote on McCain's independence from Lobbyists

    Music fades away through the next segment.  

    [Narrator] Mentioning or or two prominent lobbyists, including the one that was doing business (making calls) from the Straight Talk Express.  Meanwhile up to a dozen more images begin to populate the background.

    New background sound of cattle herd begins to grow.

    [Narrator] Someone who shares your values

    [McCain] Some "values" BS quote

    Background image switches to cow herd in a stockyard.  Images (or names) of the following people begin to slowly cover screen.

    [Narrator] Mention Keating Five, Rep Renzi, The Florida campaign chair caught soliciting sex in bathroom, and populate another dozen images of disgraced public figures

    As time allows, press one more point, and continue filling screen with McCain affiliates including Bush, Cheney and Karl Rove.

    Final image of John McCain and George Bush with the question:

    [Narrator] "Maverick" or Just One of the Herd?

    Republicans - They Hate Us for Our Freedoms

    by mikeconwell on Sun May 11, 2008 at 03:51:10 PM PDT

  •  Ironically, (0+ / 0-)

    and paradoxically, McCain's lobbyist relationships seem even MORE sinister than typical. Hell, at least Hillary's lobbyists "are people too", right?
    Do rich land owners in Arizona at least provide lots of jobs? Does he have that going for him?

    RIP USA, July 9, 2008

    by plok on Sun May 11, 2008 at 03:52:24 PM PDT

  •  But how does he even hope to get away with it? (0+ / 0-)

    I simply do not understand how someone can make such outrageous claims and think that he'll get a pass. Perhaps it is pathological -- like sniper fire stories -- but it can't be considered a reasonable way to win votes, can it? Even most of the Bush administration  claims lack of recall or executive privilege -- but not outright denial.  

  •  I am who I say I am (1+ / 0-)

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    Reality does not conflict with this!

  •  thanks (0+ / 0-)

    the Rubes at work have started ginning up Rezko already, so I needed something to stuff back into their flapping gums.

    A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. ~Edward R. Murrow

    by ActivistGuy on Sun May 11, 2008 at 03:52:40 PM PDT

  •  Holy Profits Batman! (1+ / 0-)

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    If I've done the math right - his wife and f-i-law made a whopping 4178% profit on their $359,000 investment.  Geez Louise.  Take note, candidate Obama.  There are those of us in the heartland who would love to see those kinds of returns from any investment - even a penny!

    Damn it. Enough. I've had enough. And boy, does that word enough look weird when you type it enough times.

    by klnb1019 on Sun May 11, 2008 at 03:55:59 PM PDT

  •  there is also the new (0+ / 0-)

    Of all the diversions of life, there is none so proper to fill up its empty spaces as the reading of useful and entertaining authors. ~ Joseph Addison

    by the littlest gator on Sun May 11, 2008 at 03:56:35 PM PDT

  •  I've never done any favors for anybody FOR FREE (2+ / 0-)

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    Is surely what McCain meant to say. The poor old chap is just losing his bearings. Be kind to an aged hack. He thinks he means well.

  •  McCain sucks. (1+ / 0-)

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    But I'm a realist.  I hope Obama will be the next prez but wouldn't vote on it.  The U.S. power structure has it its own ideas, and they will control the 2008 presidential election.

  •  The Special Interest Keating Kid n/t (1+ / 0-)

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  •  I want to see it in a teevee ad (2+ / 0-)

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    because if it's not on teevee, did it really happen?

  •  Depends on how carefully you define "careful" (1+ / 0-)

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    I have carefully avoided situations that might even tangentially be construed as a less than proper use of my office.

    Just how "carefully" would he discharge his duties were he President.

    Until we break the corporate virtual monopoly on what we hear and see, we keep losing, don't matter what we do.

    by Jim P on Sun May 11, 2008 at 04:06:32 PM PDT

  •  i have tried to think of a nice thing to (1+ / 0-)

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    say about mccain and i can't come up with anything.  he really should be shuffleboarding in sun city.

    "The most common form of terrorism in the U.S.A. is that carried on by bulldozers and chain saws." Edward Abbey

    by timbuck on Sun May 11, 2008 at 04:07:09 PM PDT

  •  McCain is the PERFECT OPPONENT (1+ / 0-)

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    I just hope that the GOP doesn't get cold feet and dump him by summer. Or that he is so weak that a Bloomberg-Schwarzenegger (or something like this) 3rd Party doesn't ticket raises it's ugly head. Then we got problems.

    McCain = Dole 1996

    If the Democrats do not pull their usual swan dive > snatch defeat from victory - then it looks like on paper we ought to be able to kick his/thier GOP ass and take a large list of names - even down ticket.

    I even think perhaps a once in 40 year type Democrat victory is still possible. Again only that we are lucky that we have all but culled the lousy DEM Wash DC Consultants by defeating Hill - we just might have a chance this time.

    Hopeful - yet guarded optimism.

    Keep on John!

    ObamaNation 2009!..... Rebecca > www.Kaplan4Oakland.org (4 coveted City-At-Large Council Seat)..... Gavin Newsom Governor California 2010......

    by AustinSF on Sun May 11, 2008 at 04:07:10 PM PDT

    •  Forget Schwarzenegger... (0+ / 0-)

      ...not eligible: born in Austria. And Bloomberg won't waste a cent of his own money, which is what a lot of people were hoping for, on a presidential bid.

      Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight.

      by JeffW on Sun May 11, 2008 at 04:20:14 PM PDT

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      •  ok - that would be just fine with me (0+ / 0-)

        so you do not think a strong 3rd party is possible given the incredible McCain weakness in the General?

        ObamaNation 2009!..... Rebecca > www.Kaplan4Oakland.org (4 coveted City-At-Large Council Seat)..... Gavin Newsom Governor California 2010......

        by AustinSF on Sun May 11, 2008 at 04:30:42 PM PDT

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  •  It's time to edit the Delegate Count::: (0+ / 0-)

    Only 155 needed!!!

    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -Thomas Jefferson

    by ezdidit on Sun May 11, 2008 at 04:10:54 PM PDT

  •  Let's get this show on the road! (2+ / 0-)

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    Obama outlines plans for race against McCain:

    Obama was asked Saturday if the fall campaign might touch on the 1987 Keating Five scandal, in which the Senate Ethics Committee said McCain used "poor judgment" for allegedly pressing regulators to go easy on the owner of a failed Arizona savings and loan who was also a campaign contributor.

    Obama said there is no doubt the Keating Five case is "germane to the presidency."

    "I can't quarrel with the American people wanting to know more about that," he said.

    :::rubbing hands together in gleeful anticipation:::

    A ship adrift in a sea of rhetoric & recycled clichés.

    by Terre on Sun May 11, 2008 at 04:13:06 PM PDT

  •  He said it, it will not be contested by the TM, (0+ / 0-)

    it becomes the truth.  

  •  He has carefully avoided situations... (1+ / 0-)

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    that would expose his hypocrisy and lies about anti-populist polkicies that should be expunged from the record of human existence. The man is a walking, talking profanity...literally a bag of shit.

    NO patriot, no HERO -
    he works for special interests exclusively...he works against veterans and the environment, the poor, children ...you anme it, in his own words, he is a man of the 20th Century.

    RIP - drop dead, McCain!!

    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -Thomas Jefferson

    by ezdidit on Sun May 11, 2008 at 04:15:55 PM PDT

  •  POLITICIAN FOR SALE (0+ / 0-)

    Describes John McCain's entire career.

    I shall not rest until right wing conservatives are 4th party gadflies limited to offering minor corrections on legislation once or twice a year.

    by davefromqueens on Sun May 11, 2008 at 04:44:12 PM PDT

  •  title (0+ / 0-)

    If the price is right, you've got  a friend in John McCain

    By definition, prostitutes have no friends, just Johns.

  •  Cindy "bought" McCain. Why not other $$$$$$$$ ? (1+ / 0-)

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    The scene was Hawaii.

    John the Hero, 42, had met and bedded a 25-year old party girl. Nothing new for married John the Hero.

    Then it turns out that said party girl has a family with $100,000,000.

    In a nutshell: she bought him.

    Not his vote.

    Him.

    The whole John the Hero.

    BTW: wife Carol got dumped.

    Not enough $$$$$$$$. Crippled from a car wreck. But really, not enough $$$$$$$$.

    Dixie Chicks, Amy Winehouse, Imus, and Rev. Wright. Overcome our evil with good.

    by vets74 on Sun May 11, 2008 at 05:05:10 PM PDT

  •  For Reading About McCain's Insider Deals (0+ / 0-)

    Markos should stock the Daily Kos store with a Daily Kos puke basin for what's going to come up before November.

    Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction -- Pascal

    by RJDixon74135 on Sun May 11, 2008 at 05:12:45 PM PDT

  •  Apparently this "Democrat" worked for McCain (0+ / 0-)

    A Dino running for Congress in VA?

    He's liveblogging now

    http://www.dailykos.com/...

  •  Does God Talk to McCain or Hagee? (0+ / 0-)

    just like GWB? also I saw on a previous comment that McCain's nickname in the Hanoi Hilton was Songbird?

    Can anyone verify?

  •  Okay! (0+ / 0-)

    So what is the difference between McCain's Pastor and Obama's? Obama's had full media attention so why not McCain's?
  •  McCain tried to have Ultimate Fighting banned (1+ / 0-)

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    This was under the guise of the brutality of the sport, but in fact was due to the fact that Budweiser is/was a big promoter of boxing (and guess who owns a big chunk of Budweiser).

  •  Preaching to the Choir here... (0+ / 0-)

    How many Republican voters could actually be reading this blog? (a few McCain workers, come to think of it)
     
    Joan, I hope you get your message out through many forums.

  •  May be we should call him Sen. McCoin (1+ / 0-)

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    Cindy brought some serious coinage too.

    McCain goes through life looking backwards. Explains why he crashed five planes.

    by organicdemocrat on Sun May 11, 2008 at 06:51:21 PM PDT

  •  Where's the outrage and name calling for Obama's (0+ / 0-)

    lobbyist ties?

    Doing favors for people is a fact of life in Washington and in state legislature.  Even "Saint Obama" isn't clean so lets not act like he is.  

    •  welcome to dailykos (0+ / 0-)

      Judging from your UID, you're a newbie.

      Now go home to freerepublic or Hillaryis44.

      Looking for intelligent energy policy alternatives? Try here.

      by alizard on Mon May 12, 2008 at 12:18:37 AM PDT

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      •  Why are you so mean and vile? (0+ / 0-)

        And exactly who is it that you hate so much?

        I've only been on dKos a few months...and I'm still a newbie..(SURELY, you weren't talking to ME? (putting my fists up..)

        I don't understand your "groupies"- or care... I just find the political buzz on DailyKos interesting.

        Don't discourage new people.

        Be polite. (no widdle check in the Recommend box for you)...grin.

        •  why are you so stupid? (0+ / 0-)

          Just an exercise in blurring your real life into your online experience, because I'm sure you get that question every day in the real world.

          If you don't know why I have a problem with Hillary trolls, STFU until you've learned more about her campaign than her self-serving press releases.

          Your candidate has put racism on the table again in the service of her K Street owners. If you think me mean and vile, I hope someday you have personal experience on the receiving end of the kind of racism your candidate has brought back to the Democratic Party.

          Looking for intelligent energy policy alternatives? Try here.

          by alizard on Mon May 12, 2008 at 02:06:54 PM PDT

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          •  Obama is my candidate, Mr.Dumas (0+ / 0-)

            you said: " I hope someday you have personal experience on the receiving end of the kind of racism your candidate has brought.."

            Dumas is pronounced dumb ass.

            Clear your head enough to realize "Our" candidate might need the Trojan Horse (says Chris Matthews) to win the White House.

            I've already said I'll support whomever Obama picks-- cause I'm anti-war.

            But- you do not help your party.

            •  I find people amazing (0+ / 0-)

              who care more about public civility than what happens to the nation they live in.

              If you think coddling of Hillary wingnut trolls and protecting their right to disrupt discussion of campaign issues is a way to win elections, (your "friend" thinks of liberals as "them", not "us"), trying to change your mind is a waste of effort.

              I don't quite get why you're supporting Obama, but since you've made the right decision, I'm hardly going to try to talk you out of it.

              Looking for intelligent energy policy alternatives? Try here.

              by alizard on Mon May 12, 2008 at 05:15:42 PM PDT

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              •  I don't quite get why you're supporting Obama (0+ / 0-)

                You said(Lizard): " I don't quite get why you're supporting Obama"

                Why? Because I'm not RADICAL and screaming like you?

                Obama is charming- even to this Deep Southern old white lady... Personally, I wanted a WOMAN to be president.. but, I admit defeat-- and have moved on to who represents my beliefs the most.

                How could I ever vote for WAR, and against universal health care? I hate the tax-breaks the wealthiest in our country get...Therefore, you have my promise that I'm voting for Obama.

      •  Don't hate me cause i'm right (1+ / 0-)

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        Tell me why i'm wrong.

        I like to keep tabs on whats going on on dailyKos.  There's valid points in a lot of what gets written here.  But when I see hypocracy I like to point it out.

        There's stuff for liberals to bash about John McCain.  Just don't bash him for the same stuff that your preferred candidate does as well.

  •  This man is certifiable (0+ / 0-)

    I have carefully avoided situations that might even tangentially be construed as a less than proper use of my office.

    Can we say Keating 5?

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