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Senator Hillary Clinton disqualified herself from being V.P.

Wed May 14, 2008 at 11:42:34 AM PDT

Barack Obama, son of a white mother and African father, growing up deeply loved by a strong, independent minded woman and then learning the personal hurt of mindless racism, has said that it is in his DNA to bring us together.

In so many ways he is like each one of us, regardless how differently we may choose to view each other. He truly embodies our diversity. And that is more than his physical self. In his perceptions and understanding, he embodies each of us and understands most importantly that which we have in common.

He also understands that leadership must first of all take the responsibility to frame our path to sustainability around shared values rather than allowing divisive tactics to distract us while robber barons clean out the treasury.

Senator Hillary Clinton has failed that test in the crucible of this election.

She has proven to me beyond the shadow of a doubt that she does not have the temperament to place this prime directive above all others, the prime directive of uniting the country in a common purpose and has instead insisted that different constituencies view each other as rivals.

Her insistence on viewing us in groups shallowly defined by race or culture with irreparable differences is a self-fulfilling prophesy that has been used throughout history to manipulate people to act against their own interests. It is an ugly tactic.

Senator Clinton has not convinced me that she is trying to create animosity where there is none. She has convinced me that her view of the world is such that she is incapable of understanding Senator Obama's enlightened view of what must be done to change course onto a sustainable path.

Before sharing the examples from which I have drawn my conclusion, I wanted to share a comment from last night's victory speech in West Virginia.

Senator Clinton was rallying her supporters to contribute to her indebted campaign and she referred to a 12 year old boy in Kentucky who she was very proud of. This boy had sold his bike and his computer games to raise money for Senator Clinton.
How does a person who has $109MM (less $11.4MM given to their campaign) plus whatever other assets Bill has in his presidential library fund live with themselves knowing a little boy sold his bike for her  take money from a 12 year old boy who sold his bike? Why wouldn't she buy him a new bike (see comment below) feel that was a step too far and return his money? Where does this core (callousness) indifference come from?  How does someone so egocentric bring the people of this country together?

I then thought of the first email I got from Senator Clinton on her candidacy. "I'm in" was the subject. It wasn't about the dire state of affairs of this country but all about the immature and egocentric self. I am not trying to bash Senator Clinton's supporters because I believe they are sincere and heartfelt toward their candidate but I have a real concern over Senator Clinton's values. And we have learned over these past 7 1/2 years that values matter. They matter a great deal. (see comments below)

Now to the evidence.

During one of the Obama/Clinton debates, the subject of immigration came up. Senator Clinton insisted that African American people feel Latino people are  taking their jobs and there is animosity between the two groups.
Senator Obama said he chooses to see things differently, namely that all middle class and poor workers are under economic pressure and all need for their government to set policies to offer everyone opportunity. Senator Clinton would not leave well enough alone but went back to the politics of division.
This attitude disqualifies senator Clinton from being VP.

But that performance coupled with the racially divisive views of both Bill and Hillary Clinton during the South Carolina, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia campaigns shows either indifference or contempt for our highest ideals.

From the evidence I have seen, it seems that people's hardships are viewed by the Clintons through the prism of political expedience rather than through a prism of compassion or humanity. Their lifelong battles to achieve the highest benefits and rewards in this country has left them without an understanding of what is of value in our traditions and principles and ideals.

I think that Senator Clinton has disqualified herself, not intentionally, but by temperament showing she lacks the temperament to unite people and bring us together for what will be a very difficult task.

Barack Obama proved to me how important this is. When I was precinct captain in Houston, I had a chance to meet other precinct captains. We were a very diverse group. During the precinct convention, I was extremely heartened by the leadership and commitment of the people in our group especially the younger men and women. They gave me hope. Their selflessness and commitment gave me hope. It was an opportunity to see what an opportunity we have to work together to solve the problems ahead. I was especially heartened by the moral compass and courage of these young people.

I have watched Senator Clinton for years. She doesn't make mistakes. She feels no remorse. She sees the world in reality based politics that has brought us war and tragedy. She refuses to lead by example, by telling people what they have in common instead of pointing out superficialities that divide us.
 

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  •  This true (9+ / 0-)

    I have watched Senator Clinton for years. She doesn't make mistakes. She feels no remorse. She sees the world in reality based politics that has brought us war and tragedy. She refuses to lead by example, telling people what they have in common instead of superficialities that divide us.

    and why she is not much better than George W Bush.

    John McCain's Something for Everyone Plan: Military draft for youth, SS benefit cuts for elderly, Middle Class destruction, stock market plunge for wealthy.

    by IhateBush on Wed May 14, 2008 at 11:46:33 AM PDT

    •  Wow. (3+ / 0-)

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      I was just thinking about this during my morning commute.  How would Clinton be as President?

      Well, if her campaign is any indication (and it should be), then she would likely treat the Presidency in much the same way George W Bush has.  

      Which one of these two people (HRC or GWB) has continuously used personal attacks for their own gain? Which one is oblivious to the true climate of Americans' opinion of how our government is run?  Which one has refused to recognize when the numbers are not behind them?  Which one has shown a determination to hold steadfast in their course of action even though their party has outrightly disagreed?  Which one refuses to release information about their potential conflicts of interest between their financial security and their role in our government?  

      I could, obviously, go on.  But I'll leave it to anyone else interested to keep adding to this list.

      I think, therefore I'm liberal

      by ScienceRocks on Wed May 14, 2008 at 12:31:56 PM PDT

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      •  Remember what W did to McCain in 2000 (0+ / 0-)

        that's the same thing Clinton did to Obama.  In fact Clinton was a much more of a favorite than W was in 2000.  

        The only thing was that times had changed, and Obama was a much stronger candidate than McCain was in 2000.  But had this race happened in the 2000 climate, Obama would have been crushed.

        John McCain's Something for Everyone Plan: Military draft for youth, SS benefit cuts for elderly, Middle Class destruction, stock market plunge for wealthy.

        by IhateBush on Wed May 14, 2008 at 01:05:34 PM PDT

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  •  She's Not Going to be VP (10+ / 0-)

    She brings nothing to the ticket that countless others could also bring, except drama galore, more skeletons in her closet than the entire Leakey clan, and an unparalleled ability to invigorate the conservative electorate.

    She's not going to be Obama's running mate.  It's not worth getting this worked up over.

  •  I certainly agree with this... (9+ / 0-)

    She has convinced me that her view of the world is such that she is incapable of understanding Senator Obama's enlightened view of what must be done to change course onto a sustainable path.

    She's been given too many chances to redeem herself.  She has failed at every one.  I agree with you, she has no moral or ethical backbone.

    White woman over 50 for OBAMA!! (Endorsed 6/07)

    by nolalily on Wed May 14, 2008 at 11:47:12 AM PDT

  •  See This Is Where You Lose Me (3+ / 0-)

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    How does a person who has $109MM (less $11.4MM given to their campaign) plus whatever other assets Bill has in his presidential library fund live with themselves knowing a little boy sold his bike for her? Why wouldn't she buy him a new bike? Where does this core callousness come from? How does someone so egocentric bring the people of this country together?

    I'm an Obama supporter and I've sacrificed things to donate him money.... why should Clinton supporters be barred from doing the same?  How is it callous for her to be inspired that he believes in her?

    ---- now they sit and rattle their bones and think of their bloodstone days...

    by TooFolkGR on Wed May 14, 2008 at 11:49:57 AM PDT

    •  Plus (2+ / 0-)

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      It would actually be illegal for them to buy him a new bike - read the campaign finance laws

      •  Plus, he's probably a fictitious 12 year old. (2+ / 0-)

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        This sounds like another whopper to me.  A misremembered shot at tear jerking, an "Awww, isn't that sweet and incredible" moment.  

        HRC's so beloved by the American people that children are selling their prized possessions just so she can be their POTUS.

        "Evil is a lack of empathy, a total incapacity to feel with their fellow man." - Capt. Gilbert,Psychiatrist, at the end of Nuremberg trials.

        by 417els on Wed May 14, 2008 at 12:19:08 PM PDT

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        •  interesting (0+ / 0-)

          quite possible since she was at the time trying to persuade people to donate to her campaign.

          For whatever reaason, when she said this a bell went off in my head that something was wrong...I was really uncomfortable hearing it from Senator Clinton.

    •  Even Nixon didn't take a poor man's $10 (1+ / 0-)

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      Let me say this, finally. This evening I want to read to you just briefly excerpts from a letter that I received, a letter, which after all this is over, no one can take away from us. It reads as follows:

      Dear Senator Nixon,

      Since I am only 19 years of age, I can't vote in this presidential election, but believe me if I could, you and General Eisenhower would certainly get my vote. My husband is in the Fleet Marines in Korea. He is in the front lines. And we have a two month old son he has never seen. And I feel confident that with great Americans like you and General Eisenhower in the White House, lonely Americans like myself will be united with their loved ones now in Korea. I only pray to God that you won't be too late. Enclosed is a small check to help you with your campaign. Living on $85 a month it is all I can do.

      Folks, it is a check for $10, and it is one that I shall never cash. And let me just say this: We hear a lot about prosperity these days, but I say why can't we have prosperity built on peace, rather than prosperity built on war? Why can't we have prosperity and an honest government in Washington D.C. at the same time?

      John McCain loves to suck on sausage with Lindsey Graham.

      by The Dead Man on Wed May 14, 2008 at 11:55:45 AM PDT

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    •  I don't have an answer for you. (0+ / 0-)

      I guess it's that he's 12.

      It is true that there has been huge sacrifice by people in this political race. We are so desperate for change that we're telling the corporations "not this time" we will work together to finance the best candidate.

      That said, when Senator Obama is elected, we must push for public funding of campaigns...publci air time free for candidates and a totally revamped election system.

      We must!

      •  Right and a 12 year old kid (1+ / 0-)

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        Isn't a corporation.

        I agree with you on the public financing.  But if this kid were donating money to Obama he'd be a hero on this site.  We'd all send him $20 of our own money.  He is someone who's not traditionally part of the political process, but he is inspired, and he's doing something he believes in.  It isn't cynical or callous to take his money.  She believes she's the best person for the job and so does the twelve year old.  His parents allowed him to make the donation.  I disagree with the lot of them, but they aren't evil, cynical, or greedy for accepting the donation.

        ---- now they sit and rattle their bones and think of their bloodstone days...

        by TooFolkGR on Wed May 14, 2008 at 12:06:36 PM PDT

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    •  Because it is a child (1+ / 0-)

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      •  When I Was a Kid... (1+ / 0-)

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        ...I saved up like ten months of my allowance and sent it to the Sierra Club.  It was a cause I believed in. There were probably lots of other kids that didn't.  Hillary Clinton's campaign, incidentally, is a cause I don't believe in.  But I really don't get the double standard here.

        ---- now they sit and rattle their bones and think of their bloodstone days...

        by TooFolkGR on Wed May 14, 2008 at 12:02:30 PM PDT

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        •  Because she has 100 million dollars!!!!! (1+ / 0-)

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        •  you have raised this question (1+ / 0-)

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          to a philosophical level I can't respond to because you do make a great point about your commitment to the Sierra Club.

          I am retracting my point to where it doesn't cover whether or not the child should do this but how the candidate herself feels about the child doing this.

          If I were a candidate I think I'd feel badly if a kid told me they did this.
          Senator Clinton bragged about it as though her campaign trumped a kid's having wheels and fun. I guess what I was thinking abut was how was this kid going to get to school or play with his friends.

          And maybe you're right, my reaction was colored by my view of what the kid was making his sacrifice for. Had it been something I valued, maybe I'd have reacted differently...I'll leave the comment in but put a line through it because you have pointed out my own  bias.

          thanks for your comment.

  •  The most recent SNL skit had it right (0+ / 0-)

    Hillary has no ethical standards, she is a sore loser, and whatever the 3rd point was (a racist?)  She doesn't deserve VP.

  •  The recent SNL skit had it right (0+ / 0-)

    Hillary has no ethical standards, is a sore loser, and (the 3rd item - appeals to racists?).  She doesn't deserve to be VP.

  •  48 % of Democrats are voting for Clinton... (1+ / 0-)

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    I would bet even money she will be the VP nominee.  Though my top 2 choices before Clinton would be Sen. Jim Webb or Gov. Richardson, a Obama/Clinton ticket would be formidable.  

    Plus, I would like to see every DLC'er run out of politics.   Or at least go their real party.  Republican party.

  •  John Edwards would be a good VP if he wants it (0+ / 0-)

    He got 7% in WV without having campaigned in months, and appeals to the working class much more than Clinton ever did.

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