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No patience for fools and "Democrats"

Fri May 16, 2008 at 04:46:06 PM PDT

First, read this.

Dear Mr. Corbett,

You sir, are an egotistical, selfish, petty man. I thought I was angry when the Republicans in Tennessee went after Michelle, but I expected that. I thought I was angry when George W. Bush likened Democrats to Nazi-appeasers. But you sir, have taken my patience and tolerance for "Democrats" such as yourself to the extreme. Let's take it point by point shall we?

"Operation Turndown" has deep roots in my own personal radical politics.

If Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee for president, I will not vote for him.

I will turn him down.

So, you will turn down Obama, eh? And cast a vote for who instead? Nader? No vote? And in turn endorse another 4 years of Republican rule in the United States? Another 4 years of war? Another 4 years of millions going without health insurance? Another 4 years of inflation, lack of corporate oversight and plutocratic economic policy? Another 4 years of wire-tapping and torture? For shame, sir.

Judging from callers to "Corbett" yesterday, so will many other Democrats.

Democrats must follow their hearts and their heads.

Many of these Democrats will return to the fold in November. And you sir, as a voice of left-center politics in the wilderness of Pennsylvania have the power in your hands to influence hundreds, if not thousands of votes. Do you really wish to lead people away from Barack Obama and towards those outcomes I listed above? For shame, sir.

I’m part of an impromptu movement born of outrage and frustration to which Democratic Party leaders need to pay very close attention. I’m a radical Democrat and proud of it.

Radical politics is one reason why I majored in "Community Development" at Penn State in 1970, after showing up there in September of 1969 with an open mind and a head loaded with ideas – not all of them good.

By November I was on the street in DuPont Circle in Washington, D.C., getting tear-gassed by National Guard troops during an anti-war protest. The next day I watched the attack on the Justice Department. The next year I watched my state cop father show up on my campus in riot gear.

I spent the next 30-some years developing my perspective and my honor as a daily newspaper columnist and broadcast commentator on television and radio.

I’ve learned from it all. I’m still learning.

And all these years later I still value my community development education and my degree from the counterculture school of hard knocks. The lessons of Kent State, My Lai, and the mean streets of Chicago under the first Mayor Richard Daley remain a part of my pledge of allegiance to real change I can believe in.

And yet, from all this experience, you really have learned nothing if you plan to cast your ballot for someone other than Barack Obama. Have you learned nothing from the Bush presidency? Have you learned nothing from watching Republicans shit on everything that is great about this country from the last 5 years? Have you learned nothing from your disasterous 2000 vote? Please sir, open your eyes to what you're suggesting.

I’m not some bizarre social isolationist who’s stuck in the past, either. I value lasting friendships with a wide array of people who hold extremely different political beliefs.
I’m even friends with some conservative Republicans.

But in my heart I’m a radical Democrat.

Yet I’m a model citizen who advocates non-violence and negotiation.

Although I would have likely joined the Molly Maguires back when coal barons oppressed my Irish miner ancestors in Northeastern Pennsylvania and I publicly supported the IRA against British tyranny during my visits to Belfast during the war, I’ve evolved into a principled person who values the power of the ballot over the bullet.

That’s why I’ve decided not to vote for Barack Obama if he wins the Democratic nomination to run for president. I’m with Hillary Clinton until the end.

If she loses and Obama offers her a spot on the ticket as vice president, I’ll consider endorsing the ticket. Still, I offer no guarantees and encourage Hillary to decline the VP spot even if she’s offered the job.

Hillary is the strongest, best candidate. Hillary can beat John McCain. Hillary is my Democrat.

If you believe Hillary is the strongest, best candidate, that is your right. If Hillary is your Democrat, that is your right. To not vote for Barack Obama is also your right. But to insinuate that Barack Obama can not be a strong candidate, well... all I can say is that I hope you saw his response to McBush today. I hope you saw the strength and the fight he put on display. That should make you proud as an activist AND as a Democrat. How long has it been since you've seen a Democrat fight like that?

Even if party bosses tell me that we must get behind the nominee and that the nominee will be Obama, I have a choice. Even if family, friends and colleagues tell me I’m wrong, I have a choice. Even if you hate my decision, I have a choice.

And I will use it. To do otherwise would violate the principles I work hard to uphold. I’ve made a decision – a well-thought out, reasoned and rational decision.

Besides, I’ve been here before. I voted for Ralph Nader in 2000 and endured the scorn of others who blamed me for the Democratic loss. Don’t blame me, I said. Blame yourselves for not being able to convince enough people to vote for the Democrat.

The same argument holds true today.

Ahh, the Ralph Nader vote. Once can be excused. Hell, I even agree with you that Al Gore ran a terrible campaign in 2000 and that Nader earned many of his votes. I don't hold that against you. But to use that as defense of a vote in 2008 is sheer folly. This is not 2000. The issues are too important and the stakes too high to cast a vote for anyone other than Barack Obama in 2008, even if you must hold your nose to do it. Any other vote is a vote against progress and a vote against the millions of Americans without health care, a vote against bringing our troops home, a vote against reigning in the oil and pharmaceutical companies. For shame, sir.

Don’t blame me if Obama runs and loses because too many rogue Democrats, independents and Republicans do not have faith in his ability to lead during some very tough and trying times.

Ralph’s running again today.

So are many other candidates you’ve likely never heard of.

America is caught up in a two-party madness that offers voters too few options. The same well-heeled donors contribute cash to both parties and conspire for access that most Americans can’t even dream of having.

What we do have is a choice.

And I’ve made mine.

I’m turning down Obama.

You're damn right we have a choice this time around. For the sake of this country, your listeners, Americans and people around the world, I hope you have enough time to pull your head out of your ass and make the right decision in November.

And a final note. I would be damn proud to have Hillary Clinton at the head of this party running against John McCain.

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  •  What a stupid, selfish man (9+ / 0-)

    -2.03, -5.33 ... 50-state strategy

    by Acacia951 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 04:46:32 PM PDT

  •  I don't know if (2+ / 0-)

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    alizard, DennisMorrison

    this is related, but Hannity was promoting some Hillary group that is forming to work and campaign for McCain should Hillary not be the nominee. I didn't catch the name of the website. Hannity is a tool. I bet we will see a lot of this, that is why it is so important for Obama to be the unequivocal nominee sooner rather than later so there will be time for this foolishness to go away.

  •  a website that also hosts Michael Savage (2+ / 0-)

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    ActivistGuy, DennisMorrison

    Alrighty then.

    I know, it's probably not what you want to hear. oD

    by obligatorydiscord on Fri May 16, 2008 at 05:08:10 PM PDT

    •  And features ads for OReilly (1+ / 0-)

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      bustacap

      This guy is a "radical Democrat" as much as I'm Donald Trump.  I know radicals because I am one, and I know the arguments a genuine article radical will make against voting for a Democrat, but those arguments will rarely distinguish between Obama and Hillary, and in those cases when they do it is to Obama's favor.

      A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. ~Edward R. Murrow

      by ActivistGuy on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:06:31 PM PDT

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  •  Someone said this exact thing (2+ / 0-)

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    elmo, DennisMorrison

    If she loses and Obama offers her a spot on the ticket as vice president, I’ll consider endorsing the ticket. Still, I offer no guarantees and encourage Hillary to decline the VP spot even if she’s offered the job.

    in a comment here today, and I don't think he or she was quoting anyone...if I remember correctly, it was just those words in the comment.

    Maybe it's just the talking point of the day for some group.

  •  If he's such a radical Democrat ... (7+ / 0-)

    ... why does he have a talk show on a right wing talk station that features Michael Savage, Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly?

    What is it with (some) die-hard Clinton supporters and their affection for right wing media? Case in point, I just saw Lanny Davis on Neil Cavuto's show on Fox News today.

    Over on MyDD, some pro-Hillary diaries provide links to Worldnet Daily, Newsmax, and similar fringe right web sites.

    I'm beginning to think that Limbaugh's "Operation Chaos" involves a lot more than Republicans voting in Dem primaries.

    •  who's your daddy (1+ / 0-)

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      DennisMorrison

      The Clintons have a who's your daddy complex with the Republicans. After being trounced upon for some many years they keep going back and saying to the Roves and Ken Starrs of the world, "Thank you sir may I have another." It's a little creepy to me but I think they just love the abuse.

      "I believe in this, and it's been tested by research, he who f**cks nuns will later join the church" -Joe Strummer

      by Theolonius on Fri May 16, 2008 at 05:29:30 PM PDT

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      •  it's a lot worse than that (0+ / 0-)

        Remember that the DLC's original and current purpose is to put a K Street corporate-friendly face on the Democratic Party and ratfuck the rank and file.

        That's why the GOP/DLC's programs are essentially the same, sold using different rhetoric to different demographics using top-down messaging. It's been said that the Hillary campaign is the best 20th Century political campaign that's ever been run.

        Hillary is the DLC's 2008 candidate.

        The good news here is that it's now visible and obvious that top-down 20th Century messaging campaigns simply no longer work. The number of people who respond to their dog whistles are now a small minority in both political parties.

        Unfortunately for Corbett, he and his crowd are part of that minority. There were probably still people after the Civil War who thought that with a few little message tweaks, the Whigs could be made to come roaring back into the political scene again. They faded into history and so will Corbett and the rest of the die-hard Hillary crew.

        Looking for intelligent energy policy alternatives? Try here.

        by alizard on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:17:45 AM PDT

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  •  Total fucking moron (4+ / 0-)

    ---excuse me: moran.

    You wasted way too many words on a shithead like this.

    The asshole (and I apologize in advance to the many anal sphincters that have given exemplary service & will resent being lumped with this hemorrhoid-that-walks-like-a-man) spends his entire column high-fiving himself on the fanny, touting his own (highly dubious) bona fides as a "radical," but when it comes down to "why he won't vote for Barack Obama," all he has to say is:

    Because he's not Hillary!

    Oooh! I'll howd my bweath tiww I tuwn bwue!!

    I'll bet he got all of 3 calls "supporting" him--one from his mommy & two from the local KKK.

    "If she loses and Obama offers her a spot on the ticket as vice president, I’ll consider endorsing the ticket."

    Oh, puhleez. Corbett, take your pathetic widduw vote and shove it up your ass--where it can keep your head company.

    May I bow to Necessity not/ To her hirelings (W. S. Merwin)

    by Uncle Cosmo on Fri May 16, 2008 at 05:23:48 PM PDT

    •  Uncle Cosmo (1+ / 0-)

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      You reminded me of Elmer Fudd doing a cover of Willie Nelson's Crazy:

      Cwazy. cwazy for feewing so wonewy,
      Cwazy, cwazy for feewing so bwue
      I knew you'd wove me as wong as you wanted,
      Then you'd weave me, weave me for somebody new.

      Wowwy, why do I wet mysewf wowwy,
      Wondwing, what in the wowld did I do

      Etc

      Just sing it for your friends they'll wove it.

      BTW Corbett is a pain in the jerk. Just couldn't take him seriously.

      Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. Marx (no not that one, Groucho)

      by marketgeek on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:37:39 PM PDT

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  •  So his idea of a leader is (1+ / 0-)

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    alizard

    someone who came into this primary process with more advantages than any non-incumbent in American history and failed? At this point I'm just about ready to lose all these delusional fuckers if it gets them out the party once and for all. Go let them shout on some street corner with all the other crazies.

    McCain's 3AM ad is really a Flomax commercial.

    by jhecht on Fri May 16, 2008 at 05:27:16 PM PDT

  •  Methinks someone has an inflated sense of their (0+ / 0-)

    importance. It's especially interesting that he alludes to a movement of insiders that no one's ever heard of.

    At least the republican version of these people, Ron Paul supporters, are visible and make their case based on clear distinctions between their candidate and the mainstream republican candidates. Not 'they may have almost identical policy stances, but Hillary is better because I(and she, I guess) SAY SO'.

    I think he's in for a shock when he finds out they day after the election that Obama won, handily, without his all important endorsement.

    "The road goes ever on." JRR Tolkien --- "Ahh! Arrogance and stupidity in the same package, how efficient of you!" J.M.Straczynski

    by Cofcos on Fri May 16, 2008 at 05:51:39 PM PDT

  •  He definitely flatters himself (2+ / 0-)

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    when he describes his decision as "well-thought out, reasoned and rational". About the only evidence he gives to support this conclusion is "Hillary is the strongest, best candidate. Hillary can beat John McCain. Hillary is my Democrat." Not exactly the most cerebral argument I've ever heard. Hillary is the "strongest, best candidate"? Any "rational" person would have to admit that this is pure personal opinion only, not some absolute truth. Obviously, there are millions of people who disagree with him. Then we have "Hillary can beat John McCain". Well, so can Barrack. In fact, most polls show Barrack doing better against McCain than Hillary. And finally "Hillary is my Democrat" and "I'm with Hillary until the end". Again, that's all fine and good but the end for Hillary will be very soon. What I don't understand is an alleged "Democrat" who is so anxious to "turn down" a fellow Democrat in the general election, thus boosting the prospects of a Republican win. Once Hillary is out of the picture, this is a question of Barrack verses McCain, not Barrack verses Hillary verses McCain. Hillary is his Democrat, we get it. But does that mean she is his ONLY Democrat? It's either Hillary or a Republican for him? I'd have to say he fails as a liberal. Why isn't this alleged Democrat just as anxious to "turn down" McCain?  

  •  Corbett states no reason for not voting for Obama (1+ / 0-)

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    sam storm

    I read through the snippets in Corbett's post, and I couldn't find that he gives any reason for not voting for Barack.  

    Obama's not radical enough, but Hillary is?

    Obama's years as a community organizer don't match Corbett's radical credentials, but Hillary's do?

    I don't get it ...  

    Once you can accept the universe as matter expanding into nothing that is something, wearing stripes with plaid comes easy. - Albert Einstein

    by cityvitalsigns on Fri May 16, 2008 at 05:59:44 PM PDT

  •  Just take a deep breath and relax (0+ / 0-)

    This guy is pathetic--he voted for Nader and doesn't feel any remorse about that or acknowledge the now evident consequences. So he is one of those people that is willing to send untold millions to hell so that he can feel self-righteous. I noticed that his arguments were not actually anything that could be defined as a formal logical argument--they were slides from one emotional meme to the next. I think most people now get that GW and Gore really were not the same after all--it has been amply demonstrated by the last eight years.

    I think few will pay any attention to this sort of thing. In another diary I noted that there is an overflowing cup of bitterness to be drunk by HRC supporters, and that no amount of reasoned argument will take away the taste. Only time will mitigate the loss, and then we will see whether the threats against the party and unity hold true.

    Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. Marx (no not that one, Groucho)

    by marketgeek on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:30:12 PM PDT

  •  Where did this culture of threats come from? (0+ / 0-)

    I've ruled out Satan, so I'm thinking it came from Obama supporters, from January through the present.  For months now, they don't say "if Obama doesn't win the nomination"--they say "if Clinton steals the nomination from Obama."  And that sentence usually ends in some variation of the Hell-to-pay theme.  I fondly recall the lunatic diarist who was steeling himself for jail or worse (Guantanamo?  Burma?) in Denver this summer.  But I digress: if it's not Obama, we've been told, young people will stay home.  African-Americans will stay home.  Obamista Republicans, perish the thought, will stay home.  And you know what? These threats have worked.  They've scared some superdelegates, and they scared NARAL...just read their endorsement!

    Effective ideas get around, and this one has made it over to the Clinton side of the party.  It still sucks, but I understand it.

    -5.38/-3.74 I've suffered for my country. Now it's your turn! --John McCain with apologies to Monty Python's "Protest Song"

    by Rich in PA on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:33:44 PM PDT

  •  My brain hurts (1+ / 0-)

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    Acacia951

    He's a radical and Hillary is his candidate to the bitter end? Aw come on, enough with the BS, she is about as Wall Street as you can get.

  •  just ignore his temper tantrum (1+ / 0-)

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    Acacia951

    There isn't anything you can do with people like this that is constructive. Just ignore them and when they aren't getting any attention anymore then they will likely end their drama.

  •  What a whiny twit. (1+ / 0-)

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    Acacia951

    He gave not one reason to not vote for Obama, other than that Obama's not Hillary.

    "Flanders, you su-diddley-uck." -Homer Simpson

    by NMDad on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:52:59 PM PDT

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