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by jimmyhoffa2222 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:41:39 PM PDT
First, she has to tune in.
Then, she needs to turn on.
Only after that will she drop out.
by cmnh on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:46:02 PM PDT
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by drmah on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:47:24 PM PDT
so happy days!!!
When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. ~H.G. Wells
by Adzam13 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:30:44 AM PDT
I'm thinking that somebody has to have been on acid in that campaign team.
Loyalty comes from love of good government, not fear of a bad one. Justice Hugo Black.
by Pondite on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:48:40 PM PDT
Political Expediency: Its The New Black!
by BentLiberal on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:20:58 PM PDT
Their flag pins. Or something.
"I hate quotations. Tell me what you know." -Ralph Waldo Emerson
by Rian Fike on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:27:08 PM PDT
I'll say it here:
Perhaps we need to embrace the flag pin. Perhaps Obama ought to start wearing a rhinestone encrusted 7 x 4 inch flag pin on a fat gold chain around his neck. I'm going to design one to go with my Capt. America uniform. by ruleoflaw on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:21:41 PM CDT
Perhaps we need to embrace the flag pin. Perhaps Obama ought to start wearing a rhinestone encrusted 7 x 4 inch flag pin on a fat gold chain around his neck. I'm going to design one to go with my Capt. America uniform.
by ruleoflaw on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:21:41 PM CDT
Say it loud, say it proud: "I'm voting for the black guy!"
by ruleoflaw on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:44:12 PM PDT
CNN just now 10:25 Rick Sanchez insisting that
Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton campaign held meetings to merge their war chest as a way to pay for HRC's debts.
They have two analyst at hand and nobody mentioned that the idea is ILLEGAL, that a maximum transfer of $2000 between campaign is allowed.
they have a refusal from BHO campaign and the Washington Post and he just keep insisting about it
I don't know why I watch TV
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
by IamTheJudge on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:34:16 PM PDT
under campaign financing regulations. I believe a fellow Kossack posted here a couple weeks sgo that the money that Barack Obama has accumulated in his campaign war chest cannot be given to another candidate.
Besides, the report came from CNN and Rick Sanchez. They've become worst than Fox, and he's a blithering idiot. If they told me it was Sunday, May 18, I'd go check my calendar.
"I run the kitchen, so I can stand the heat" - Nikki Giovanni
by sistermoon on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:54:06 PM PDT
In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act. ~George Orwell
by ElizabethAM on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:31:57 PM PDT
..needs to be started on June 4th.
Isn't it discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit? (Noel Coward)
by Mid10Dem on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:33:00 PM PDT
by newdem1960 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:43:04 PM PDT
Why would Hillary want to stay in just to take it on the chin in South Dakota, and Montana?
McCain's occupation plan will achieve victory when it bestows liberty to the freedom loving people of Iraq and their freedom loving oil.
by Lefty Coaster on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:57:55 PM PDT
those states are "too white" to bother her.
by newdem1960 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:01:50 PM PDT
I'd be pretty psyched if he got to choose delegates, but I'm assuming it's the state.
But good point on the 28th/29th, I hadn't heard that theory, and it's a smart one. Though Puerto Rico is June 1st, so maybe she'll linger until then?
BareNaked Pundits!
by Hlinko on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:13:16 PM PDT
the Obama rally in Portland today? I can't seem to find any info on it. :)
by LauraC on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:43:12 PM PDT
John McCain is NOT a Bush supporter. He may be a liar, a pig, an idiot, a Bush supporter, but he is NOT a porn star.
by DH from MD on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:48:45 PM PDT
there to see Obama(they're called the Media), and 75,000 there to see him and listen to him.
Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
by darthstar on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:49:10 PM PDT
All the Americans, hard working Americans, white Americans were busy.
As far as I know.
Rupert Murdoch is on the Associated Press Board of Directors!!!
by Lava20 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:50:14 PM PDT
Take the fight to them. Don't let them bring it to you. - Harry S Truman
by jgoodfri on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:50:53 PM PDT
of gas prices around the country.
Let the great world spin for ever down the ringing grooves of change. - Tennyson
by bumblebums on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:43:20 PM PDT
by LauraC on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:45:17 PM PDT
Guess I shouldn't flinch anymore at the pump.
by bumblebums on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:51:22 PM PDT
the usual 500 Mile Race Day Spike to raise prices over $4.00 by race-time, next Sunday. Talk about your Hoosier Hospitality! LOL!!
by drmah on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:51:25 PM PDT
you'd think, "Gee, they're socking it to the liberals," except that taxes and regulations are factors. I'd be curious to see a map with taxes subtracted from the price.
Government and laws are the agreement we all make to secure everyone's freedom.
by Simplify on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:52:56 PM PDT
Here's a map of taxes/gallon. (pdf)
by bumblebums on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:56:20 PM PDT
Somebady explain the price of gas in my home state. Montana has some of the highest taxes per gallon but is still a nice shade of green. Why did I move to WA? Oh that's right I can work here.. I find it odd though that MT is still so cheap on the old gas.
La hoja de coca no es droga
by Huacareta on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:58:35 PM PDT
by Phil S 33 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:56:50 PM PDT
gas is 77cents a litre.
Another Proud Subscriber to the Mariachi Mama Bickering Moratorium!
by mango on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:26:42 PM PDT
$0,09 a gallon, well 0.12 if want the good stuff
by IamTheJudge on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:36:57 PM PDT
Shame on bush.
The Daily Outrage: It's like being a punk rocker, but without the optimism.
by eroded47095 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:00:05 PM PDT
please GET REAL here.
SHAME ON CONGRESS-- you know, the guys who are supposed to represent US?
Clue: the Arab Oil Embargo was in 1973... do the math, that is over thirty years ago.
On October 16, 1973, OPEC cut production of oil and placed an embargo on shipments of crude oil to the West, with the United States and the Netherlands specifically targeted. The Netherlands had supplied arms to Israel and allowed the Americans to use Dutch airfields for supply runs to Israel. Also imposed was a boycott of Israel and price increases. Since oil demand falls little with price rises, prices had to rise dramatically to reduce demand to the new lower level of supply. Anticipating this, the market price for oil immediately rose substantially. A world financial system already under pressure from the breakdown of the Bretton Woods agreement was set on a path of a series of recessions and high inflation that persisted until the early 1980s, and elevated oil prices persisted until 1986.
Is there some reason(s) Congress HAS NOT helped prepare our country for the inevitable burn out of fossil fuels?
yes, there are several reasons why, but apparently most people here don't get it-- or don't care to.
this is one case where ignorance is not bliss.
http://en.wikipedia.org/...
"Cigna cannot decide who is going to live and who is going to die." -- Nataline's mother
by Superpole on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:11:24 PM PDT
But the auto industry didn't feel like it.
This is why we don't need Government that runs like Business.
by eroded47095 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:19:10 PM PDT
read your U.S. History, please.
early on, companies wishing to do Business in the United States had to be chartered.
For 100 years after the American Revolution, legislators maintained tight control of the corporate chartering process. Because of widespread public opposition, early legislators granted very few corporate charters, and only after debate. Citizens governed corporations by detailing operating conditions not just in charters but also in state constitutions and state laws. Incorporated businesses were prohibited from taking any action that legislators did not specifically allow.
Now of course the reverse is true-- corporations are running the U.S. government thru their paid lackeys, i.e. congresspeople and lobbyists.
you can see where this has led us.
the chartering system was infinitely better than the bullshit corrupt system we have now.
http://www.reclaimdemocracy.org/...
by Superpole on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:33:48 PM PDT
And it's not going unnoticed that your problem is with a Constitutional Branch of Government instead of any specific person or group of persons.
You're blaming EVERYTHING on everybody who has served in Congress over the last 35 years.
And ignorance doesn't seem to bring any bliss at all!
by eroded47095 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:26:20 PM PDT
ignorant to blame the current state of affairs on a guy who obviously serves as merely the front man for a specific group of corporations.
it's also ignorant to think merely changing the front man who sits in the white house will lead to significant progressive changes in our system-- with little to no effort on our part.
by Superpole on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:36:22 PM PDT
To me, any more than I already contribute to my local, State and Federal Government is a loss of my liberty.
I expect to pay my taxes, remain active with my Representatives, and have New Orleans cleaned with Q-tips if there are ever any acts of God down there.
I expect my "employees" to perform, and I give them feedback all the time.
It isn't ignorant to think that changing the guy in the White House will change anything.
Because it will.
And I'm real real bored with whatever your angle is called.
Let's just call it, say, "word-heavy fake pseudo-intellectualism."
by eroded47095 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:51:28 PM PDT
The two main culprits in today's oil prices are George W. Bush and Enron, by manipulating the regulations.
Somebody should check out what he claims and Diary it.
We have no intention of prosecuting Rush Limbaugh because lying through your teeth and being stupid isn't a crime.
by The Baculum King on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:42:16 PM PDT
He should.
by eroded47095 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:52:51 PM PDT
One of our Markets wizards needs to look at it.
by The Baculum King on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:57:02 PM PDT
prices, actually.
And things like food stamps driving the economy.
That kind of thing.
Maybe a Markets wizard would look into that too.
by eroded47095 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:01:21 PM PDT
My view on the current price of oil is that it mostly is a reflection of GW's really pathetic foreign policy. Oil is a commodity traded in dollars, as the value of the dollar falls the price of oil goes up(samme thing with food commodities by the way) Now why is the dollar tanking at the moment. The budget defficits are moving this process along nicely. Deficits tied directly to the war and irresponsible tax cuts. Oil is also affected by worries over supply distribution. Explosions in Iraq can't be good for this. Not to mention Venezulea and Russia flexing their political muscle often in oppositon to 'Dummy'. And then there is increased demand which we really should have seen coming. So 2 out of three casues for the rise in the price of oil can be laid at the feet of the incompetent in chief. There are of course many more variables to this, but these are the big 3 in my mind
by Huacareta on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:07:54 PM PDT
That was illegal 8 years ago...
by The Baculum King on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:09:58 PM PDT
that's gotta hurt out in the north coast of Calif., where people often drive long distances to get anywhere.
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by decembersue on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:14:04 PM PDT
I'm in light orange.
Freedom of Speech does not mean Freedom from Consequences
by Ambboogie on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:14:29 PM PDT
by Huacareta on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:55:09 PM PDT
I paid $4.11 there the other day. Back in the orange in the good old Pac. N'west where we only pay $3.87 right now!
-6.0/-6.21 John McCain: he's not change you can believe in!
by doctorgirl on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:03:33 PM PDT
top of that one!
Drive less, throw away your television.
by Adzam13 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:33:31 AM PDT
myself to get psyched for Obama.
And for some serious legislation-writing majorities in both houses.
by Pondite on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:43:34 PM PDT
maximum readership potential?
by fatherofdragonwagon on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:43:48 PM PDT
That has been succinctly and humorously written.
And you remember the pooties.
Dogs have so many friends because they wag their tails instead of their tongues. -Anonymous
by gloryous1 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:45:18 PM PDT
to the title.
~Doc~
-7.88 -8,77 Just a wine sipping, brie eating, $6 coffee drinking, Prius driving, over educated, liberal, white, activist, male New Englander for Barack Obama.
by EquationDoc on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:47:26 PM PDT
My topic is BioBags and eliminating plastic bag usage in the kitchen, yard, and while walking dogs, among other things. Just want to introduce as many readers to this great product made from compostable cornstarch!
And I always remember the pooties!
by fatherofdragonwagon on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:49:13 PM PDT
I have been using Biobags since they came out. They are a little expensive but well worth it.
Here is the cool part: San Francisco passed an ordinance banning plastic bags at grocery stores. Trader Joes is strongly encouraging everyone to bring their own bags, but if you accept a bag from them it is, wait for it, a Biobag!
I don't take advantage of them and take bags because I bring my own. But how cool is it for them to use Biobags in all of their SF stores?
by gloryous1 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:57:07 PM PDT
BioBags USA has recently put this bit of great news on their website, making me very jealous here in Chicago, where Mayor Daley's Greenwashing is making me queasy.
by fatherofdragonwagon on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:59:51 PM PDT
and the audience you want to reach. It's a different crowd here different times of the day as well as weekdays versus weekends. Also, nights and weekends, lower traffic also means that the diary hangs on the recent list longer.
For that [consulting astrology charts] I'd suggest a weekday after work or on the weekend during the day.
by Simplify on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:59:02 PM PDT
I'm just trying to get a sense, and that's sorta what I suspected.
by fatherofdragonwagon on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:01:14 PM PDT
Environmental Kossacks know when you post, as well. I too am very interested. Good luck!
by gloryous1 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:08:52 PM PDT
Ok NOW!!! Darn, you missed it. Try again.
"Its a grave digger's song, Praising God and State. So the Nation can live, So we all can remain as cattle. They demand a sacrifice..." -Flipper
by Skid on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:48:24 PM PDT
by Sam Loomis on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:09:09 PM PDT
And, again, I've found dawn in your time zone to be good.
But, yet again, opinions vary.
I honor John McCain's military service.
by Crashing Vor on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:11:48 PM PDT
or other major event that distracts the readership...
by decembersue on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:14:57 PM PDT
I was getting some giggles over at hillaryis404 - er, hillaryis44 - and came across THIS gem:
I wanted to tell you about my sister’s experience in Houston during a caucas in Spring, texas. She totally believes Bambi is the antichrist. She told me that she could feel evil when she walked thru the door at the elementary school she was voting in. She said it was feeling she could actually smell. I thought she was a little off, so we have never spoke about it again. My sister is very religious and practices the Jewish religion. She tells me she will not vote for Hillary unless O is not anywhere on the ticket because of what she felt at that caucas! There are alot of people that say he fits the mole exactly. I not one of those, I just believe he is somehow connected to the jihadists and will try to take this country over from the inside.
Mmm-hmmm...the Jewish antichrist. Cool!
"Obama voted uh-uh thing terror-stop" - KO
by ipsos on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:44:45 PM PDT
mole.
by cmnh on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:48:26 PM PDT
the delicious chocolate based Mexican sauce practiced by alot of the Mexican chef religion?
or the small allegedly-sightless burrower somehow connected by the Small Sightless Burrowing religion?
by Pondite on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:52:23 PM PDT
Is a TrilateralComissionAtheistJewPopishMarxistFreemason IlluminatiDarwinistLiberal mole.
by ruleoflaw on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:58:49 PM PDT
by ruleoflaw on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:59:30 PM PDT
by Lava20 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:55:02 PM PDT
;-)
by pickandshovel on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:07:36 PM PDT
"I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent." ~Mahatma Gandhi
by Futuristic Dreamer on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:50:10 PM PDT
by Lava20 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:53:52 PM PDT
you might have misread that.
"No ... human ... would stack books like this."
by socratic on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:54:35 PM PDT
...if you'd uprate to counteract the HR. Thanks!
by ipsos on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:58:30 PM PDT
by socratic on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:00:17 PM PDT
by ipsos on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:11:54 PM PDT
Kindly re-read what I posted before TR'ing it. I'm not saying Hillary - or anyone else - is the Jewish anti-Christ. I'm saying someone over at His44 seems to think that Jews believe in the anti-Christ...which is up there on the "nonsense" scale, is it not?
by ipsos on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:55:37 PM PDT
Yes, I see the double negative I missed before and that's even more sickening. You find this funny? How? Are Obama's issues courting Jewish voters are amusing to you? And your response is to post a joke perpetuating the kinds of stereotypes resulting that problem.
The quoted comment doesn't use the word "anti-Christ", you did. Incarnation of evil ≠ anti-Crist. So according to a person on the internet, someone who happens to be Jewish said this? Why repeat it?
by Futuristic Dreamer on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:17:33 PM PDT
Seriously. Give over. Remove it. You missed the point. Haven't you ever heard of hillaryis44?
by Lava20 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:27:54 PM PDT
made fun of, and yes, this is one. The quote is bullshit written by a troll on their site with the intention of mocking Jews.
I am appalled at the level of antisemitism that's been dragged up in this campaign; in all likelihood it's being done intentionally by the Republicans as a tool to divide Democrats. That is a big part of what's behind the smear E-mails — they are a plot to embarrass the Jewish community at Obama's expense. This election can bring the Black & Jewish communities together or tear them further apart, and it's little things, offhand comments, that build trust and destroy it.
by Futuristic Dreamer on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:10:16 PM PDT
You misread the quote. HR'd it. Now you won't back down.
It's clear the poster was mocking the level of ignorant insantiy that is hillaryis44.
You're really preaching to the choir here.
We post Pat Buchanan quotes. We mock them then get busy writing msnbc about them. Do you hr the orignal poster for quoting another person? Shoot the messenger?
by Lava20 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:11:57 PM PDT
If you're really amused by internet idiocy, check out fixedearth.com, now there's a laugh. If you can imagine it, it's on the internet.
The only reason to repeat bullshit is because it was said by a person in power who should be held accountable for their words, if it tells us something meaningful about other's philosophy, and/or if it's good for a laugh. If this was meant to be funny, it's a mockery of Jews, and that's not cool, nor does tell us anything meaningful about another's philosophy, and it's anonymous. Why repost that?
Worst Bullshit I've found on the Internet so far: Most Absurd: "Heliocentrism is an Atheist Doctrine", "The Jewish bankers' conspiracy blew up the WTC with explosives.", & "Global warming can't be real because CO2 floats off into space." Most Digesting: "We should nuke Berlin now, because 5 secret Nazis are plotting to attack Israel, and God wants us to." — Posted by a self identified Christian Zionist who was kicked out of Israel because the IDF caught him associating with the people who killed Rabin, and suspected his involvement in a terrorist plot to blow up a mosque.
by Futuristic Dreamer on Sun May 18, 2008 at 10:45:39 PM PDT
Your comment looks a lot different after a decent night's sleep.
I still think the comment is tasteless, but you have every right to post it. I'm pretty hesitant to un-HR something after it has a bunch of recs, because then it makes a dumb comment look like the best comment ever.
It's hard to tell what's a joke, and what's not, after reading about stuff like this all day. I wish that was the Onion, but it isn't. People get physically hurt, and even killed over lies about Jews that don't make much more sense. If that kind of bullshit was confined to Hillaryis44, we would live in a much better world.
I did reread the comment before I hr'ed it, and every time I re-read it I came up with a new offensive interruption — I was tired, out of it, and had seen way too much bullshit for one day. None of which is your fault, so I owe you an apology.
by Futuristic Dreamer on Mon May 19, 2008 at 05:54:13 PM PDT
by Julia C on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:38:14 PM PDT
by Julia C on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:39:26 PM PDT
How exactly does one have a Jewish AntiChrist?
How can someone even type that?
Sad.
by Lava20 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:15:38 PM PDT
who is clearly making shit up about a sister that may or may not exist and is unlikely to be Jewish.
Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -6.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.67
by bythesea on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:56:28 AM PDT
The quoted comment does indeed use the word "anti-Christ," and my read of it, anyway, is that the troll in question posted...
...nah, you know what? You've already demonstrated a lack of comprehension that no amount of further posting on my part is going to fix. I've got better things to do this evening. Have a good night, and please read a little more carefully before handing out TR's in the future. (That's actually the first one I've ever gotten here.)
by ipsos on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:10:59 PM PDT
They misread your quote. HR'd it. Now won't back down. Sad. But I rec'd it. Some people are stubborn like that.
by Lava20 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:12:51 PM PDT
by Lava20 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 10:13:12 PM PDT
That's just sad.
by Lava20 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:52:18 PM PDT
as a joint award to Wolfowitz and Feith myself!
by newdem1960 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:55:00 PM PDT
Drawing and quartering that POS Feith this week. He is the worst.
Never give up! Never surrender!
by oscarsmom on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:11:43 PM PDT
Seriously, 75,000 in Portland. A weeks notice. How many can Obama draw? Say he gives a rally in Denver on the eve of the convention. No Springsteen, No Oprah, just him and the family.
I wonder what the availability of Mile High Stadium is?
"What is being noticed is only an indication of what is being done." Albert Einstein 1954
by tundraman on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:45:25 PM PDT
Mile High Stadium only seats 76,273.
How many more stadiums are there in Denver?
And can any of them be picked up and moved?
We could put them all together side by side in a 4 by 4 or so grid, and then have a floating platform that hovers above them all.
Oh, and dolphins with laser beams.
And some jet skis for John Edwards and his family.
by EquationDoc on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:50:42 PM PDT
you were describing one of my old SimCity cities. :)
by socratic on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:55:55 PM PDT
John Edwards and family on jet skis?
by chrississippi on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:13:50 PM PDT
Field not needed for a speech - can probably seat 50,000 on the field in folding chairs or benches.
Still might not be enough capacity though!
by BentLiberal on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:26:29 PM PDT
and a few VIP seats you get to 100K on football stadium, no more for safety reasons the stadium services will collapse.
by IamTheJudge on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:41:48 PM PDT
Michigan Stadium for a few days, we could seat and stand 250K plus. That just might work.
by EquationDoc on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:09:04 PM PDT
you are better off with an open venue such a big thoroughfare or an airfield, in south america they get 1M-2.5M people that way pretty much in every election, I saw one a few years ago in Caracas where they shut down a 10 lane highway (like I95) for 5 miles new year's eve from 8pm to 3am for a political rally against Chavez about 1.2M, yup they were there for the new year.
by IamTheJudge on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:40:45 PM PDT
by IamTheJudge on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:42:22 PM PDT
and some dancing polar bears?
by ruleoflaw on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:02:19 PM PDT
come meet fellow kossaks. We're having a blograiser for a progressive candidate for the Missouri legislature - the suggested minimum donation is only $10. Click the link in my sig line for details.
by maryb2004 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:45:45 PM PDT
Otherwise I'm going back under my rock.
by Skid on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:46:07 PM PDT
Very soon now.
by oscarsmom on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:14:03 PM PDT
Hot off the press, the latest Obama swift boat routine from the religious right that is making the e-mail rounds of the usual suspects (even Mrs. Toes called this stuff shit which is totally out of character for her):
Subject: Obama
Something to think about !!!
MAY WE ALL PRAY FOR WISDOM AND DISCERNMENT AND PRAY FOR EACH OTHER AS WE MAKE THIS DECISION OF A LIFETIME! OUR LIVES, CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN'S LIVES WILL BE CHANGED FOREVER BECAUSE OF OUR CHOICE THIS ELECTION. MAY GOD BE WITH US ALL!
Keep your eyes on the skies, Jesus is coming soon!!!
God help us if this man is elected!! But it is all stated in the Bible and it will happen sooner or later.
This is from Darlene Millican, wife of the pastor of Trinity Bapt. Church here in Sun City .
I have felt for sometime now that Obama is the one person that 'Frightens Me'. I believe the Bible has warned us that 'A man will come from the East that will be charismatic in nature and have proposed solutions for all our problems and his rhetoric will attract many supporters!'
When will our pathetic Nation quit turning their back on God and understand that this man is 'A Muslim'....First, Last and always....and we are AT WAR with the Muslim Nation, whether our bleeding-heart, secular, Liberal friends believe it or not. This man fits every description from the Bible of the 'Anti-Christ'!
I'm just glad to know that there are others that are frightened by this man!
Who is Barack Obama?
Very interesting and something that should be considered in your choice.
If you do not ever forward anything else, please forward this to all your contacts...this is very scary to think of what lies ahead of us here in our own United States...better heed this and pray about it and share it.
snopes.com <http://snopes.com>' confirms this is factual. Check for yourself.
Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obam a was born in Honolulu , Hawaii , to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHEIST from Wichita , Kansas
Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii . When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya . His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia . When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocate to Indonesia . Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta . He also spent two years in a Catholic school.
Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim . He is quick to point out that, 'He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school.'
Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that that he is not a radical.
Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.
Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obamawas enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta.
Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United Sta tes , Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran. Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegiance nor will he show any reverence for our flag. While others place their hands over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches. Do you want someone like this as your PRESIDENT?
Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy.
The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President of the United States, one of their own! The Bible says 'He will come from among you!'
Please forward to everyone you know.
Would you want this man leading our country?
NOT ME!!!
I've said it before and I'll say it again, This man was planted here to destroy our country....One of the 911 terrorists lived in Vero Beach for 16 years and was president of his childrens PTA for many of those years before being called up to fulfill his duty to those that made it possible for him to be here....Read the book The Lions Game by Nelson DeMille and get a little more insight on the mentality of the Middle Eastern Mind......Pass this on to as many people as you know before those people are removed from your life by a Muslum Terrorist elected to the office of United States President.......
As I sail against the tide, for what I believe is right.
by Toes on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:46:46 PM PDT
Fired up in Tampa Bay!
by Nonie3234 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:51:02 PM PDT
by Toes on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:52:26 PM PDT
by Lava20 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:58:04 PM PDT
would never vote Democrat (sic) anyway!
by newdem1960 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:51:09 PM PDT
all but eliminate Federal funding for mental health programs?
Toes, there are plenty of non-profit mental health facilities that take severely mentally ill patients, even those with severe learning disabilities, on a pro bono or pay-as-you-can basis.
The rampant mental illness in this country is truly sad.
by EquationDoc on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:54:36 PM PDT
I missed the first sentence or two, it scrolled above the top of my screen, and the beginning of the email was at the top of the screen. Grr, I'm so sorry to snark you, rather than the email sender.
Ignore the middle para of my comment. Sorry. :(
by EquationDoc on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:56:53 PM PDT
I was wondering about the mental health angle myself when I read this the first time.
by Toes on Sun May 18, 2008 at 07:19:39 PM PDT
Yeah, if you read it starting right after your introduction, exactly as you read it when you got it in email, it's hard not to think the sender needs some pretty serious help.
I guess there are two options:
I'd like to think that, as my son would say, there's a Visine for that. But I don't think so.
by EquationDoc on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:06:50 PM PDT
"quotes" from the Bible are a nice touch.
by bythesea on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:58:40 AM PDT
Go to THIS LINK for tickets!
by Nonie3234 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:47:14 PM PDT
run out of venues large enough to contain Obama supporters.
by drmah on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:52:45 PM PDT
by ZappoDave on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:53:36 PM PDT
I have been up since 3:00. I'm soooo excited that I can't sleep! I'm hoping to get 2-3 more hours tonight and pray for the rest of the week.
Never confuse kindness and patience with stupidity and weakness!!
by Joes Steven on Mon May 19, 2008 at 12:50:34 AM PDT
