IL-10: Kirk (R) admits to being out of touch with his district

Archpundit has a recording from Rep. Mark Kirk:

In the last two months I think we’ve seen Barack Obama has unified the Kerry-Dukakis Coalition.
I think we hit Republican bottom in 2006 and I don’t know about you, but I feel stronger now.  I feel that the country was pretty shocked by what they saw about Senator Obama lately.  Our job is to move the focus beyond just him to other things the Democratic Party stands for.

I hope you begin to decide to work on Election Day. This will be a huge one. Dan Seals will have millions of dollars from Washington coming in, wants to join up with Nancy Pelosi, wants to back the Obama agenda.

Kirk is one of the few Republican House members to represent a House district that John Kerry won in 2004. One of six, to be exact. And despite representing a district that Kerry won 53-47, despite representing an Illinois district, the home state of our nominee, Kirk is going around talking about opposing the "Obama agenda" and Nancy Pelosi.

It's an interesting tactic in another way -- Kirk has survived by pretending to be a moderate. Yet as this recording shows, he's a wingnut at heart, and he's clearly out of touch with a district that will overwhelmingly support Obama this fall.

Dan Seals is going to win this seat.

On the web:
Dan Seals for Congress
Blue Majority ActBlue Page

Update: It wasn't clear, but I don't think this was meant for public consumption. In fact, it sounds like something you'd say at a Republican fundraiser. No way in hell he says this sort of thing publicly. But it got out.

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•  Maybe he knows he is gonna lose, so it doesn't

  matter if his true colors shine

  by sharris0512 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:46:38 AM PDT

  •  If he thought Republicans hit the floor in 2006

    well, that floor just cracked.

    by deaniac83 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:55:23 AM PDT

    •  Kirk is solidifying

      the Keyes-Oberweis coalition and doing a spectacular job of it. Keep up the good work.

      "I hate Illinois Nazis!"
      -Joliet Jake

      by rightiswrong on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:08:48 PM PDT

    •  Really, the GOP has nothing to worry about.

      It's just a matter of re-framing the message, nothing serious.

      by rontun on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:19:03 PM PDT

•  He sent this to people in Illinois????

  Dan Seals victor with 55% of the vote or MORE!!!

  Dumb idiot.

  by bten on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:47:57 AM PDT

•  This is what he thinks

  I think we hit Republican bottom in 2006...

  He's right about that, but it's his bottom that's going to be kicked out of Congress this November.  He's going to feel that one a lot more.

  One more K Street leech aborning.  When do we get public campaign financing to get all these crooks and cretins out of Washington for good?

  by Dallasdoc on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:48:29 AM PDT

  •  He must have missed some recent events in MS.

    I would say they are still trending down at this point.

    by God loves goats on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:54:58 AM PDT

•  What about his voting record?

  I don't care about a recording...thats pure politics (and what else would you expect him to say as a Republican with a party crashing to the ground?).  What does his voting record say?

  by jkratz on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:48:54 AM PDT

•  Kirk has too many advantages:

  1. He has good hair

  2. His last name is short, and does not remind anyone of the Chicago Seven trial

  3. He has good hair

  4. He can make with the moderate talk on command, yet vote neocon at will

  5. He knows farm issues, despite voting wrong on them

  6. He attacks Chicago pols (but then, so does everyone in this state)

  7. He has good hair.

  by agnostic on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:49:04 AM PDT

  •  8. Beam me up Scotty

    And don't forget my toupé.

    by polecat on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:54:07 AM PDT

•  What?

  I feel that the country was pretty shocked by what they saw about Senator Obama lately

  I think I'm more shocked by Senator Vitter, or Senator Craig, or Congressman Fossela.

  Oh, never mind.  They had their flag pins on, so they're ok...

  by Red no more on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:49:20 AM PDT

  •  those don't count, because the GOP

    members each get a mulligan.

    by agnostic on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:50:06 AM PDT

  •  I was shocked by what I saw

    All those people at that rally the other day looked like a U2 concert.  Shocking.

    by God loves goats on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:51:20 AM PDT

    •  Hopefully the public's tolerance for morons-

      is reaching an all-time low.  This guy certainly qualifies!

      by Red no more on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:57:11 AM PDT

    •  Really stunning! I mean it's really tough for

      Americans to draw any real distinction between Obama's rise in the polls and McCain's ability to connect with voters. Obama - he has all these fanatics rallying around his campaign, whereas McCain is trusting that his solid base of core supporters will be able to inspire the nation.

      Now tell me, which group would you want determining our nation's future?

      

      

      by rontun on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:34:15 PM PDT

  •  

    I feel that the country was pretty shocked by what they saw about Senator Obama lately

    And then they (most of my constituents included) went ahead and voted for him.

    Vote for me.  Please...

    -Mark Kirk

    by Yoshimi on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:57:49 AM PDT

•  I'm in the city, but I really hope my

  neighbors to the north do the right thing this time around.

  by anna789 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:49:35 AM PDT

  •  Lend a hand

    by kos on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:50:39 AM PDT

    •  Don't worry, kos. I have been :)

      by anna789 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:56:03 AM PDT

•  Kirk, you're in ILLINOIS, for God's sake!

  It's Obama's home state, a state the GOP is thoroughly wrecked in, a state they've already lost one House seat in and likely will lose more come November...and he sends this out? Should we put him on suicide watch or something?

  by gf120581 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:50:34 AM PDT

•  Time to take him down

  Sounds like he doesn't have a clue what he's in for . . .

  by Molly M on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:50:55 AM PDT

•  Don't tell John Edwards,

  but he's the strongest running mate.

  http://www.surveyusa.com/...

  Dan Seals would be lucky to be running under that ticket.

  by jre2k8 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:51:57 AM PDT

•  words you're looking for: "FORCED RETIREMENT"

  Bye Bye Rep. Kirk.

  by polecat on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:52:56 AM PDT

•  "Kerry-Dukakis coalition"?

  Man, that screams of desperation.  I almost feel sorry for him.

  Almost.

  by DH from MD on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:53:23 AM PDT

  •  Re: Kerry-Dukakis coalition

    I did a double-take on that one too.  Is this guy trying to start a new meme?

    "Tank drivers and Windsurfers, UNITE!"

    by sargoth on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:09:59 PM PDT

    •  Rather have that to deal with...

      Than the bush/mclame coalition.
      Talk about a glass of warm spit....

      by manwithnoname on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:35:20 PM PDT

•  I don't know about you.

  I don’t know about you, but I feel stronger now.

  But that has to be a punchline to something.  I must be missing the joke somewhere.

  by God loves goats on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:53:29 AM PDT

•  Hey Kirk, you think you hit bottom in 2006

  I think we hit Republican bottom in 2006 and I don’t know about you, but I feel stronger now.

  We're gonna keep smacking Republican's bottoms until they weakly cry "uncle". All the way to a working, progressive, Republican-bottom-smacking, majority in 2008.

  People get ready, there's an ass-smackin' change a comin'.

  by trmasonic on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:55:10 AM PDT

  •  Oh..The Pain.....

    Larry Craig will be counting on that "ass slapping"..the repigs are just so disgusting and repugnant!

    by StuHunter on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:56:49 AM PDT

•  Comments like this aren't going to play well

  back in his District. There are a lot of independents and Republican crossover voters in IL-10 who dislike this style of negative campaigning.  It's an educated and affluent area and Kos is absolutely right, Kirk has survived by falsely representing himself as the consummate moderate.  

  Shedding that disguise now is really interesting.  Maybe he's looking at huge Obama favorite son coattails for Seals in the fall and is now setting the table for a run at Governor.  Blago is doomed. (Lisa) Madigan v. Kirk? Interesting.  

  by Critical Dune on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:55:27 AM PDT

  •  rezko's jury is taking a break

    but I suspect that rezko goes down, and then, our  governor will be in serious trouble.

    That is the only fear I have about November. Some democrats need to call for his stepping aside, even if Rezko skates. Ill in noisyans don't mind a certain low level of corruption (hell, if we did, none of the current office holders in state, county or city office would be there) but when it makes national headlines, even our crusty, cynical, souls demand change.

    Many democrats can easily elevate their stars and positions by calling for bloggo to go-go.

    Madigan v. Kirk? Could be. The GOP side is rather sparse these days.

    by agnostic on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:59:38 AM PDT

    •  The GOP has Oberweis!

      With Edgar apparently wanting nothing to do with the current crop of IL GOP duds and their immediate past leader George Ryan in an orange jumpsuit, Kirk may be smelling an opportunity to ascend to lead the minority party and position himself for the future. He has the time.

      Either way re Rezko trial, I think Blago has been  very damaged. Madigan would be a shoe in v Kirk if Blago steps aside but it positions him as leader for a future run. In the meantime he can build the war chest in the private sector.  

      by Critical Dune on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:07:51 PM PDT

•  IL-10th is North Chicago

  So not only is he insulting Obama, he's insulting Obama from the home of the Chicago Bulls.  Idiots like this are the reason Republicans are losing every office they run for.

  by rdxtion on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:55:32 AM PDT

  •  but he send his mailers

    all over-even into the 6th district! and I get email from him and the idiot evil Roskam.
    I would like to be jerrymandered back into a dem district, please.
    Ok-I'll still go out and work for us, but I hate hate hate being in a repub district.

    by mayrose on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:06:28 PM PDT

•  Gotta love it

  Maybe he'll remind everyone how important it is to stop SCHIP, privatize S.S., and not tax the oil companies as an encore.

  by fat old man on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:55:43 AM PDT

•  I should be in IL-10, if we had sane districts

  I'm in the part of IL-08 that IL-10 wraps around, so I'm right next to it.
  I don't think the GOP is too popular in my neck of the woods anymore.

  by Norm in Chicago on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:56:09 AM PDT

•  How not to attack "Pelosi Democrats":

  Complements of Rep. Graves (R-MO)

  by ManahManah on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:56:20 AM PDT

  •  LOL..Stupid Is As Stupid Does...

    LOL..that ad worked so well in Louisiana and Mississippi and Denny Hastert's old district...let'em keep using the same failed attack ads..it helps us and hurts them. That's just one of the numerous problems with Bushbot Republicans, they don't learn a damn thing from their stupid mistakes! They all deserve to lose!

    by StuHunter on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:00:37 PM PDT

    •  Yup. Stupid and pathetic.

      by ManahManah on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:02:37 PM PDT

  •  San Francisco Values

    I'm getting so sick of that line.  I've lived all over the country, in "red states" and "blue states," and I'm probably about to move to SF from LA for career reasons.  San Francisco is an amazing, diverse, well-run modern metropolitan city.  It's offensive, really.

    It's a shame - I lived in Boston for all of the "Massachusetts Liberal" attacks and now I'm about to live in the Bay Area for this year's "San Francisco Values" attack.  What's next, Portland Perfidy?  Seattle Sinners?

    by auron renouille on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:42:58 PM PDT

•  And Kirk won because of 9-11.

  He has a military background, and that's been the bulk of his campaign, that he knows how to be tough on terror.

  Now that the War on Terror has been shown to be a joke, what does he have to run on?

  by Norm in Chicago on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:57:54 AM PDT

  •  $4.50/gallon gasoline, perhaps?? n/t

    by OHeyeO on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:02:26 PM PDT

  •  Antiwar sentiment in the 10th is high

    I was at a 4th of July parade in Northbrook last year, where Kirk and Seals both marched.

    Northbrook is just below the "bulls-eye" for the 10th and is pretty much a bellwether of the district's demographics.  It's not quite as wealthy as the North Shore but still more well-to-do than most of the rest of the district.

    Seals definitely received more cheers and applause than Kirk from where I was standing.  But the biggest cheers were for the "Northbrookers for Peace" group carrying banners that said "Support the Troops--Stop the War!."

    That was a pretty awesome sight in what has traditionally been a fairly conservative community.

    by ReEnergizer on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:10:59 PM PDT

    •  Conservative, yes...

      ...but not a community that sends many of its sons and daughters into uniformed service.  For as many similarities I found on the surface, it's one of the stark differences I found as a Northbrook native moving into Poway, CA (CA-51, Duncan Hunter's district grumble.)  North Shore folks like to keep their money, but they tend not to be blind rah-rah warmongers.  Kirk may have voted in line with his party, and he'll play the Pelosi-as-boogeyman game, but religious wingnuttery doesn't play in John Hughes suburbia.

      It would be nice to see Seals elected, but God forbid he plays fast and loose on spending bills, he'll have a very hard time come next election.

      It's nice to see someone label my old hometown as a bellwether, but people shouldn't be confused about the wealth factor.  The difference now between Northbrook and say, Winnetka, is using bricks of C-notes for pillows versus filling the pool with them, Scrooge McDuck-style.  My family couldn't afford to move there nowadays.  :-)

      by jlindquist on Wed May 21, 2008 at 02:03:35 PM PDT

      •  Exactly

        The tenth is home to a fairly large number of fiscal Republicans.

        Not too many "national defense" Republicans and even fewer "values voters" among them.

        by ReEnergizer on Wed May 21, 2008 at 02:32:22 PM PDT

  •  He does get support from ...

    ...AIPAC type and other Zionists who like his militaristic support of Israel.

    by delver rootnose on Wed May 21, 2008 at 01:22:21 PM PDT

•  This IS hilarious

  Mark Kirk regularly hits the Chicago area radio shows and never, NEVER mentions his party.

  What's more -- you'll never him discuss anything except bipartisan legislation he "Me Too's" about.

  Kirk is gonna lose rather badly.

  It's a shame - put Kirk in a bright red district as part of a permanent GOP minority - and he'd actually be someone I could stomach in congress

  by zonk on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:58:37 AM PDT

•  Kirk would do better if he campaigned against

  Blago.

  by Yoshimi on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:59:10 AM PDT

•  A weird sentence--

  I hope you begin to decide to work on Election Day.

  Election day seems like a little late to begin to decide to work.  

  More confirmation that Republican'ts are lazy elitists?  

  BEGIN TO DECIDE TO WORK

  Yep, that's the ticket!!!!

  by hannah on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:00:49 PM PDT

•  I knew before I even checked

  that Kirk was elected in 2000. He's a post-Clinton hothouse flower who thinks he can just throw around the names "Kerry," "Dukakis" and "Pelosi" and the supposedly dreaded "liberal" and think that constitutes an election campaign.

  by RickMassimo on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:01:10 PM PDT

•  Well Maybe After November This Kirk might be

  Exploring Strange New Worlds(The Private Sector)
  Seeking out New Life Forms(Normal Americans)
  And New Civilizations(The Middle Class)
  Boldly Going Where No One Has Gone Before.
  (Or lots of unemployed Goopers anyway)

  by JML9999 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:01:13 PM PDT

•  2006 was rock bottom?

  hm, Jim Oberweis, Woody Jenkins, and Greg Davis would disagree with you Rep. Kirk.

  by jj32 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:01:21 PM PDT

•  Does anyone know anything about this assh*le?

  One committee Democrat, Sen. Tom Carper of Delaware, broke with others on his side of the aisle and voted "no." A Republican, John Warner of Virginia, voted "yes," allowing the bill to pass.

  by bamage on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:03:48 PM PDT

•  Obama nomination is bad for Kirk

  This is my Congressional district.  Obama is very popular here.  Kirk's had 2 serious challenges - vs. Lauren Beth Gash (state rep) to get elected and then last year with Seals.  

  Obama's nomination and Durbin's means high Democratic base turnout for November even without support money for Seals from the party.  That's trouble for Mark.  

  Most of his recent communications with the District are trying to play down Kirk's GOP credentials and emphasize work with State Senator Garrett (Dem) and Rahm Emmanuel and the Illinois Congressional delegation.  

  by Tribe Fan on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:03:56 PM PDT

•  I agree

  I volunteered for Seals in 2006 and we got pretty close then. With Obama on the ballet, I think it'll happen this time. Turnout is going to be huge and Obama will win a higher percentage than Kerry did. Plus, he'll probably cut a commercial for Seals. All together, Seals is poised to win. Thank goodness.

  by lapis on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:03:59 PM PDT

•  How did Obama do in this district in his Senate

  race? I think this approach would be career suicide for Rep. Kirk.  He will by trying to tie his opponent to the Il favorite son and make that a bad thing. Heck, look how that worked in Mississippi?

  by Dave from Oregon on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:04:03 PM PDT

  •  The general senate election is not a fair

    comparison because he was running against Keyes. Obama won practically everywhere. However, he won in IL-10 in the seven-way Dem primary as well, which is not a small feat.

    by lapis on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:21:44 PM PDT

•  The hell?

  Did he sleep through the special election for Hastert's seat or something?

  by Purplepeople on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:05:02 PM PDT

  •  To Some Goopers the 3 Dem Special Election

    Victories were a fluke.

    by JML9999 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:11:11 PM PDT

    •  fair enough, they probably expect a lot of flukes

      in the fall.

      by Dave from Oregon on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:24:19 PM PDT

•  Since Obama's agenda is the American Way...

  it doesn't surprise me in the least that Kirk would oppose it.

  by BA BarackUS on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:06:11 PM PDT

  •  What Ever it is Kirk's Against it.

    Apologies to Groucho Marx

    by JML9999 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:12:02 PM PDT

•  Kos - you need to talk up Leslie Byrne - VA11

  Tim Kaine just endorsed - the other guy - can't even say his name.

  In fact - Raising Kaine is about to change their name.

  by totallynext on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:09:10 PM PDT

•  At least he didn't say

  Democrat Party.

  by blueyescryinintherain on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:11:07 PM PDT

  •  the spell checker probably fixed that for him

    by Dave from Oregon on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:27:46 PM PDT

•  Totally Irrelevant, but...

  Dan Seals is a total hottie.  He was at Ogilvie one evening during the primary, and the women on the train could not stop talking about him.  I look forward to more campaign ads on my TV.

  by FatLynn on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:20:06 PM PDT

•  Could be him moving right positioning for Gov.

  "The enemy is coming over the wall with their millions. I have no choice but to sacrifice myself to try to keep them at bay"...sounds like the opposite of upbeat to me. In fact, it reeks of doom. Obama will win IL-10 with ease and give Dan Seals a tailwind (yes, I'm helping)

  The burbs and collar counties will likely go Obama in the fall but places like IL-14 will be in play and trend red in future cycles. Kirk could be setting himself up for a state GOP leadership role with that base in 4-8 years. There's a leadership vacuum at present.

   

  by Critical Dune on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:26:21 PM PDT

•  FTW ... Dan Seals !!!!

  ~move sooner, not faster~

  ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~

  ~for those with eyes to see, let them see~
  ~if you're not outraged then you're not paying attention~

  by ArthurPoet on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:27:46 PM PDT

•  The comments of Kirk are embarassing

  I dont know if Barack Obama has unified the Kerry-Dukakis Coalition, but I know for sure that Mark Kirk will join the ex-congressmen republican losers coalition in November.

  by Blue Wind on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:31:49 PM PDT

•  What on earth is the "Kerry-Dukakis Coalition?"

  Sounds like a chapter of the Fenway Faithful, maybe the Royal Rooters from the old Huntington Grounds.  Asides from being from Boston, it's hard to see quite what this "coalition" is.

  by auron renouille on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:39:01 PM PDT

•  He's screwed

  Just like many other GOP office holders in illinois... November is going to be a complete and total wipeout for the GOP in Illinois.

  My idiot congressman roskam is going to be long gone... DuPage county pulled more democratic ballots than republican ballots  during the primary for the first time in decades.

  Obama at the top of the ticket will devastate the GOP in Illinois

  by Capt Morgan on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:41:16 PM PDT

•  Robo-reply to Mark Kirk

  [dead air followed by slight click then happy voice...]

  Thanks Mark.

  In the last seven-plus years I think we’ve seen that George W. Bush has unified the William McKinley/Warren G. Harding Coalition of people who are afraid of the 20th Century and all of its new-fangled progress.

  If you think the Republicans hit bottom in 2006...you aint seen nothin' yet. I don’t know about you, but I feel stronger now.  I feel that the country was pretty shocked by what they saw from the President over that time. Our job is to move the focus beyond just him to other things the Democratic Party stands for – like accountability, lower taxes for the majority of Americans, international and foreign corporations paying taxes based on gross-receipts from Federal and State projects, tax-equality for work-based income so employed Americans pay no more taxes on income than investors and financiers, national security issues that actually make us secure, freedom and liberty, and an end to government-sanctioned torture – to name but a few..

  I hope you will work on Election Day. This will be a huge one. Money isn't everything but with boots on the ground and millions of dollars from Washington and hard-working folks around the country coming in to Dan Seals, we can join up with Nancy Pelosi and really move forward on the Obama agenda. We can bring real and positive change to America and its people.

  So Mark, in large part due to your efforts and those of your Republican Party we have had years of greed, avarice, neglect and cronyism, which has forced us to articulate a vision of a better America. Thanks for this opportunity. We really could not have done it without you.

  by Bill Section 147 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:49:02 PM PDT

•  KIRK!!!

  To the last, I will grapple with thee. From hell's heart, I stab at thee. For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.

  by Gundar Schwartz on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:55:32 PM PDT

•  unfortunatly..

  ..mark Kirk is a long time friend with Rahm Emanuel back when they were both bankers.  So Dan Seals doesn't get as much help as he should.  That is why Dan did not beat Kirk last time, that and the Illinois districts are set up to protect incumbants and maintain a balance between Democrats and Republicans.  The victories in Illinois have been despite this.  That is why Foster's win was such a big deal.  IL-14, like all other districts in Illinois was tailor made to be a republican district and they lost anyway.

  by delver rootnose on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:59:28 PM PDT

•  Nice post. n/t

  by pakaal on Wed May 21, 2008 at 01:56:34 PM PDT

•  Kirk

  I live in the District and my wife has volunteered for Dan Seals last time and this cycle.  The district is trending Democratic, particularly in my neck of the woods.  In previous cycles, Cong. Kirk has successfully projected a moderate image.  Last cycle, he never indicated he was a Republican.  Challengers haven't been able to tag him on this sufficiently.  Unfortunately, the D3C didn't provide enough support last time, but Sen. Obama is likely to help out this time.  Mark Kirk prior to being elected was on Cong. Porter's staff, a true reasonable moderate Republican.  When Porter retired, Kirk road in on this reputation.  His voting record speaks loudly about him. Two cycles ago, I saw him at the train station prior to the election.  I indicated I was troubled that he continued to follow the lead of the Republican leadership too much.  He responded with an attitude that he was a moderate on a lot of issues and that I was just listening to false claims put out by his opponent.  I responded instead that I had been following his voting record.  His attitude bothered me alot.  I think this audio is indicative of his true colors.  Cross your fingers it catches up to him this time.

  by tjk on Thu May 22, 2008 at 08:52:49 AM PDT