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We, as rational individuals, surely, surely, do not allow the possibility that things can be rigged by people and that our media is being taken over by the right-wing. Surely. That is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out there- so impossible, like UFOs or Bigfoot being real. It could never ever happen that anything could be corrupt, or anyone could scam anybody, infiltrate an organization, or that anybody could be bribed, intimidated, or blackmailed. It's not like it's happened before! But, as open-minded individuals, let's just preserve our reputations as thinkers for a sec by going through the motions of examining the unusual events of the Kentucky Derby. Our kids will thank us for phoning it in like this.

I was being sarcastic, in case you didn't notice.

Link. (The name of the winning horse was Big Brown, by the way).

Let's assume for a moment that, rather than the unlikely events of,

  • (1) a horse named Big Brown running in, and
  • (2) winning over,
  • (3) a female horse
  • (4) when female horses haven't even run recently in the Kentucky Derby
  • (5) in the Derby preceding the presidential election where the first black contender with a real chance in a presidential primary is competing against
  • (6) the first woman with a real chance, and
  • (7) the woman in the presidential primary campaign is losing to the black man, and
  • (8) the woman bets on the losing female horse in the Kentucky Derby;
  • that instead, the common action of human interference explains all these "coincidences" (after all, I'm sure plenty of excellent statisticians could tell you that the chances the Kentucky Derby can be rigged far exceed the chances of all (1)-(8) happening together by chance). We'll allow maybe only that Eight Belles' actually finishing second and the tragic injury weren't rigged.

    Then, what do you think inspires the race-rigger to such a goony action? Jackass movies? Picking on littler kids when he was in elementary school? Political motivation to mess with Hillary Clinton's mind, because whoever had enough motivation to instigate a ridiculous, multi-million dollar waste-of-taxpayer-money investigation against Bill Clinton to ruin him during his White House term wants to make sure that neither his wife nor him gets within spitting-distance of the White House, and they're over-doing it a little bit? All of the above?

    And, how can a situation like that be rigged? For one thing, ultrasonic devices can mess with a lot of different animals, from squirrels, to cats, birds, dogs, and humans. How would you make all the horses run behind Big Brown? I suppose all it really would take is training all the horses to run as fast as they can, but behind Big Brown, and all that would take is some BS to convince the Kentucky Derby people with access to the animals. Maybe there are other explanations, too. In addition, all you probably have to do is have some intern tell Hillary about Eight Belles and suggest to Hillary that she bet on the race. Or maybe Hillary already bets on a horse every year (if you don't think that fits your conception of Hillary, consider that maybe Bill and his friends were always into it, or maybe it's a thing in Hillary's family, and that's how she got into it) and that's what inspired the scam.

    Originally posted to Swan on Sun May 04, 2008 at 09:59 AM PDT.

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    Comment Preferences

    •  maybe it was really Obama (0+ / 0-)

      in a horse suit!

    •  It's well known (2+ / 0-)
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      marykk, Stroszek

      that aliens from the Dog Star have been controlling the outcomes of greyhound races by beaming nuclear waves into their heads for years.

      I don't know why you would find this remarkable.

      "Many a small thing has been made large by the right kind of advertising."
      ~~ Mark Twain

      by Ddeele on Sun May 04, 2008 at 10:08:12 AM PDT

    •  And eight voters in Guam didn't vote Clinton (1+ / 0-)
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      RedefiningForm

      because they were too busy trying to place a bet on the horse because of Clinton's guidance and this led to Obama winning Saturday.

      •  How come it's only my posts (0+ / 0-)

        that get these kinds of comments?

        I think the chances of all this shit happening by coincidence is about as likely as aliens from space infiltrating earth- that's to say, it's far more likely the case that some jerk rigged the situation.

        I guess it's makes sense that if the first female was running in a while and Clinton heard about, she might bet on it for a campaign stunt, in case the horse won- but in total, I call this episode an amazing confluence of coincidences.

        And it's all too likely that it has already been discovered that it's possible to convincingly rig the Kentucky Derby, but that it's also a very closely held secret of the upper-echelons of the horse-racing industry.

    •  not commenting (1+ / 0-)
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      marykk

      not commenting on the kentucky derby but if you dont think horse racing has fixes going on, you dont know a damn thing about horse racing.

      I have PERONALLY known owners who have told their jockey to hold back their horses early in a season, only to let them run later in the season when odds were more "favorable".

    •  You know... (4+ / 0-)
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      marykk, gfv6800, Stroszek, citizenjane

      The death of this poor horse isn't a laughing matter. Linking it to politics and to the Clinton campaign is just a matter of poor taste. A beautiful and graceful animal with plenty of heart and a joy for running died, and had to be put down on the race track. Don't sully it by mixing politics into the pot.

      Robert A. Howard, Tangents Reviews

      by Tangent101 on Sun May 04, 2008 at 10:19:32 AM PDT

      •  Well, I definitely don't think the death of (0+ / 0-)

        the horse is a laughing matter (I think the continuing failure of modern American liberals to uncover a lot of scandals they could apparently uncover by just "phoning it in"- giving it the barest amount of scrutiny- like this one, is ridiculous, though) and I think rigging the race for a political purpose is disgusting. If you're implying that I'm being dishonest, you're wrong.

    •  Really? This matters for like five minutes (0+ / 0-)

      Honestly, whoever would have rigged something like this is dumb,  like maybe a million people watch the Kentucky Derby.  Probabaly fewer people nationwide than watch re-runs of shows on the CW.  Besides, It can't even be called a coincidence bc Barack Obama hasn't actually WON the nomination or anything yet.  So you are inferring a coincidence based on what you THINK the future is going to be.

      As for Hillary - she probably only bet on a horse because Kentuckians haven't voted yet.  

      •  The point if it was done probably wasn't for (0+ / 0-)

        the people watching the Kentucky Derby, it was for Hillary watching it (even if Hillary ordinarily doesn't believe in superstitious stuff, a lot of people become believers in unusual stuff when they think they saw it happen), or for the "omen" being reported by the conservative pundits / the mainstream media.

        Good point about how Kentucky's primary hasn't happened yet, but that doesn't weigh at all against this havning being rigged- it could just mean that was part of the reason the particular scam was planned- it made it more likely they could get Hillary to bet on the female horse to try to look cool if the horse won (Hillary essentially trying to "catch an omen" herself, but by less creepily illegal and thuggy means).

        As for the thing about Barack not winning yet, that doesn't count at all if the point is to intimidate Hillary and (dumbly try to) get her to feel like fate is against her; and, Barack is winning anyway; and, there are like 7 other conicidences (each more unlikely to occur purely by chance because of its combination with each of the others) anyway.

        And (since you wrote "it doesn't matter), it does matter if someone's such a goon and has so much power that they can use their time to try to do things like rig the results of the Kentucky Derby in an infantile effort to get Hillary to pull out from the race (and they can actually get someone to help them rig the Derby). We do not need people like that having power like that- elections should be decided by voters deciding on the issues, not by whether a goon engages in thuggery or not. When you think of how rigged the mainstream media is, it makes it a lot more likely something like this is going on, not less.

    •  Maybe there's some kind of performance-enhancing (0+ / 0-)

      drug Big Brown could have been given, or tranquilizers the other horses could have been given in just small enough a dose to make them perform a little poorly (but not exhibit the effect otherwise), or both.

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