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Political Mythology of Energy Independence

Mon May 05, 2008 at 05:53:10 PM PDT

The argument of Gusher of Lies is that "energy independence" is a ruse to fool the rubes, a delusion used by demagogues to gull the public purse.  It may just be correct.

(x)  Each time Congress or the White House gets too involved in the energy business, supplies get tighter or prices increase, or both.  Of course, politicians always want to "help."  And the energy sector provides a perfect venue for demagogues to bash the evils of Big Oil, or Big Coal, or Bad Arabs, of Evil OPEC.  Unfortunately for consumers, history has repeatedly shown that congressional meddling usually ends in a muddle.  It also shows that the less regulation imposed on the energy sector, the better usually, for consumers.

Gusher of Lies:  The Dangerous Delusions of "Energy Independence" by Robert Bryce
NY:  Public Affairs, 2008
ISBN 978-1-58648-321-0

(288)  On that same road toward energy independence lurks the graveyard of military hegemony, the idea that the US can dominate the world and do so based solely on its military might.  The concept of energy independence is closely tied to the neoconservatives' belief that any type of engagement and interchange with the Arab and Islamic worlds must be avoided at all costs.  The unfortunate truth about the drive for energy independence is that it is, at its most fundamental level, a xenophobic and - dare I say it? - racist response to a complicated world that has grown beyond America's ability to control.

As Robert Bryce makes clear, "energy independence" is probably not possible and may not even be desirable, at least as it is currently conceived.  For instance,

(40)  London-based BP is now the single biggest crude oil producer in the US.  In 2005, BP produced about 825,000 barrels of crude per day, or about 16 % of all US crude output.

It becomes ridiculous when W proclaims that the solutions to this season's high oil prices is drilling in ANWAR, a project that is estimated to produce only three months of the US oil budget and will take five years or more to produce one drop of usable oil from the date that legislation makes drilling possible.

As for ethanol, we are beginning to see how wrong-headedly we've gone about that option.  Making food crops into energy crops is not a winning proposition.  For one thing, ethanol has a little more than half the energy density of gasoline.

(61)  1 gallon of ethanol = 0.66 gallons of gasoline
1 gallon of ethanol = 0.59 gallons of jet fuel

(62)  1 bushel of corn - 2.7 gallons of ethanol = 1.8 gallons of gasoline

(154)  In 1995, James Bovard of the Cato Institute published a study estimating that every $1 that ADM earns from ethanol costs taxpayers $30...  Bovard went on to estimate that "at least 43% of ADM's annual profits are from products heavily subsidized or protected by the US government."  ...Given ADM's history as a price-fixing-influence-buying company that has shown little regard for antitrust laws and fair competition, why are the environmentalists and farmers and labor unions so pro-ethanol?

And then there's  Jeavons Paradox:  increasing conservation does not necessarily decrease overall consumption.

(138-139)  In 1980, the US was using about 15,000 btus per dollar of GDP.  By 2004, the energy intensity of the US economy had improved dramatically so that just over 9,000 btus were required for each dollar of GDP.  The EIA  expects those efficiency gains to continue.  The agency projects that by 2030, energy intensity will fall from about 9,000 btus per dollar of GDP to about  5,800 btus per dollar of GDP.  But even with that dramatic increase in efficiency, overall energy consumption in the US will rise by more than 30%, from 100.1 quadrillion btus in 2005 to 131.1 quadrillion btus in 2030.

Fact is, we lie to ourselves all the time where energy is concerned.

(195)  In the real world, the Suburban [SUV] gets less than 15 miles per gallon.  But thanks to the [Flex Fuel Vehicle] credits, the E85-capable Suburban is magically transformed into a vehicle that gets more than 29 miles per gallon.  Of course, that mileage occurs only on paper not on the highway.

(258)  America has the most balkanized motor fuel market on earth.  Refiners are now producing about 45 different blends of gasoline and multiple blends of diesel fuel.  And thanks to the new ethanol mandates, the mix of fuels  - and the infrastructure needed to support them - has grown even more complicated.  All of these regional blends of motor fuel increase the cost of production and transportation for motor fuel.  In 2005, the Government Acocuntability Office found that there are 11 special blends of gasoline, which "are often used in isolated pockets in metropolitan areas, while surrounding areas use conventional gasoline."  This proliferation of different types of gasoline is largely due to state-based efforts to address air quality issues.  And while that may be a laudable goal. the result, according to the Government Accountability Office, has been higher costs for consumers.  It studied gasoline prices in 100 cities and found that "the highest prices tended to be found in cities that use a special gasoline blend that is not widely available in the region, or that is significantly more costly to make than other blends."  And consumers are paying those higher prices even though the agency determined that the air quality benefits of the myriad gasoline blends are "uncertain."

This is a habit that is not confined to the oil sector.

(126)  Wind power advocates always prefer to talk about the total generating capacity of their wind farms, which are usually measured in megawatts.  But the key measure for electricity is kilowatthours.

Bryce does have some recommendations, not all of which I'd agree with:

(255)  While reducing energy regulations, state and federal governments should also eliminate subsidies.  There is no need for the federal government to be giving tax breaks to Big Oil for offshore drilling.  Given current crude prices, the oil industry has plenty of incentive to drill.  Nor is there any need for federal subsidies for ethanol, or for wind, or solar power.  If the government wants to encourage renewable energy production, that's fine.  Offer incentives that encourage low- or no-carbon energy sources, but don't give preferential treatment to any of them.  If the government wants to provide improved energy efficiency. it should set benchmarks and let private industry and the marketplace decide which technologies should prevail.

(253-285)
Get Government the Hell out of the energy business
Stop obsessing over prices and reduce the number of fuel blends
Reject the culture of fear and engage the Arab and Islamic worlds
Redefine energy security - from scarcity to globally stable market
Accept increasing energy use and adapt to a changing global climate
Embrace solar and nuclear, and pursue new technologies and efficiency
Create the superbattery prize
Increase domestic oil production
Embrace natural gas

All of our conversation about "energy independence" has missed the point, according to Bryce.  We concentrate on price rather than supply, which is increasingly the issue when world oil production seems to have stagnated for the last couple of years and demand keeps growing.

(237)  The Chinese never ask us about price.  They only want to know about supply -  Prince Saud, Chairman, Saudi Basic Industries Corp, 2006

(241)  The concept of energy security, he [Ibrahim al-Muhanna, a top advisor to the Saudi Oil Ministry] declared, is quite simple.  It means, he said, that "you have spare capacity in crude oil production and refining."

(267)  There can be no US energy security without global energy security - National Petroleum Council report

In the course of his presentation, Bryce also reiterates the core truth that has been buried for the last eight years:

(263)  [Ohio State Univ Professor John] Mueller then quoted Frantz Fanon, a 20th-century revolutionary, who said that "the aim of terrorism is to terrify.'  Given that truth, Mueller declared that "terrorists can be defeated simply by not becoming terrified - that is, anything that enhances fear effectively gives in to them."

I also appreciate his bringing up the Carter administration's response to that era's "energy crisis."

(101)  Carter plan:  "...a major conservation effort, important initiatives to develop solar power, realistic pricing based on the true value of oil, strong incentives for the production of coal and other fossil fuels in the United States, and our Nation's most massive peacetime investment in the development of synthetic fuels."

It is a useful comparison to remind people that Carter's policy was to produce 20% of our annual energy budget from renewables by the year 2000.  Imagine what the world would look like today if we had continued on that path, a path that was abandoned when Reagan was elected.  Reagan killed us.

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  •  Bryce,obviously never heard of Polywell fusion (1+ / 0-)

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    FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

    by Roger Fox on Mon May 05, 2008 at 06:01:22 PM PDT

  •  Energy independence begins... (7+ / 0-)

    ... with energy conservation.

    We haven't done nearly enough to accomplish this.

    Energy independence doesn't depend upon a single energy source being a breakthrough.  It depends, like life depends, upon multiple energy sources (solar, tidal, geothermal, wind, biofuels from non-food and non-water-intensive sources -- like grasses and willow that grow in waste and polluted water that can't be used for agriculture and agricultural sewage -- and multiple means of energy conservation, working in harmony.

    Energy independence depends upon energy policy being guided by sound science instead of by lobbyist money (read ADM, who brought us ethanol and biodiesel from food crops, and the military-industrial complex, which brought us nuclear power).

    "Without bitterness, all chocolate is a Hershey bar." -- Harry Shearer

    by tbetz on Mon May 05, 2008 at 06:02:46 PM PDT

    •  Well, efficiency (5+ / 0-)

      is a more important point than independence anyway.  For one thing, efficiency makes independence more plausible.  But look at the prioritization of things.

      If your goal is independence over efficiency (and let's assume you have to put one over the other) it would be better to reduce energy usage, especially among non-renewables, than it would to somehow find magic sources of CO2-emitting fuel and energy in the US which we would surely deplete with fervor.

      Plus, he knows what crapped out means, which will help him explain his condition on the morning of November 5 - PBCliberal

      by Nulwee on Mon May 05, 2008 at 06:08:04 PM PDT

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      •  Efficiency for its own sake? (0+ / 0-)

        Efficiency is not a goal, its a means to goals.

        Indeed, efficiency of what? Every move toward efficiency of something is a move toward inefficiency of something else.

        For example, we throw a lot of energy in this country at avoiding having to design specific solutions to specific problems. Pursuit of greater energy efficiency is going to require a heavier investment of human effort in multiple design processes.

        So how do you decide which efficiencies are the priorities and which efficiencies can be sacrificed? You look to the goal.

        If the goal if Sustainable Energy Independence, that selects pursuit of Energy and Material Efficiency as a high priority.

        Talking about whether you put Sustainable Energy Independence "above" one of the main tools to achieve Sustainable Energy Efficiency is just smoke and mirrors to excuse not working through the challenge of Sustainable Energy Independence.

    •  Conservation has negative economy of scale (5+ / 0-)

      While conservation has a good cost/benefit ratio initially, you cannot scale it up.  As you make the easy changes you find it's harder and harder to get additional improvements.

      There are also unintended side effects from conservation -- for example with much better sealing on our houses we are now more immersed in the household chemicals and allergic reactions are rising.

      Conservation is a good thing, it's just not the simple solution to energy needs.

      •  Unintended Consequences (3+ / 0-)

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        Air to air heat exchangers and green materials are fairly easy fixes for too tight houses.  

        Some practitioners would not concur with your statement that efficiency doesn't scale.  Here's a diary I did lately on the 2030 Project which posits major savings in the existing housing stock using off-the-shelf technology
        http://www.dailykos.com/...

        Solar is civil defense. Video of my small scale solar experiments at http://solarray.blogspot.com/2006/03/solar-video.html

        by gmoke on Mon May 05, 2008 at 06:33:53 PM PDT

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      •  Good point (2+ / 0-)

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        btw, can you post a link to the study you are referring to about rising allergies tying to better sealed enclosures?

      •  BS (1+ / 0-)

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        What do you mean by "scale it up"?  There is still tremendous potential for energy efficiency improvements in the US and we are far from reaching limits in any meaningful way.  Every time that appliance efficiency standards are increased there are some people (manufacturers) claiming that it will be too expensive or that we are reaching the limits for improvements and then magically the standards are easily met and production costs barely change and the next round of improvements can be considered.  

        It is fairly simple to design homes that don't need central heating systems in colder climates.  In almost every way that we use energy there is tremendous potential to use much less to accomplish the same task.  Sometimes it is not through making the same device use less energy but instead changing the larger system involved or how we provide the desired service.  It is only through limited thinking and imagination that we run into the limits that you claim.

        In terms of making homes tighter -- many homes are accidentally too tight without any concern for efficiency (the invention of sheet goods like plywood and sheetrock and OSB did more to tighten US homes than any effort to make tighter homes) and no ventilation is provided.  Programs that promote efficient homes measure building tightness and design ventilation systems to provide better air quality than standard new homes.  Many programs also include approaches to reducing pollutant sources in homes.

        Stop making stuff up and instead learn about what you write.  

        •  Agreed (0+ / 0-)

          This is an uninformed view of energy efficiency and resource conservation.  It is stuck in the first wave of energy retrofit, back in the 1970s.  I can understand your frustration with it, NRG.  I made much the same points in response but I wasn't so acidic about it, I hope.  

          Solar is civil defense. Video of my small scale solar experiments at http://solarray.blogspot.com/2006/03/solar-video.html

          by gmoke on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:23:12 AM PDT

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        •  My point is (0+ / 0-)

          While you can save a good deal of energy by relatively inexpensive conservation methods, you can't then assume that you can continue to meet your energy needs by repeating the process.  There is only so much energy to be saved by inexpensive conservation and then you find it getting more expensive to get smaller and smaller increments.

          Energy production, on the other hand, tends to get less expensive the larger the scale.

          I find that most people dealing with the energy issue tend to jump up and down pointing at their favored solution and declaring that other solutions are unnecessary and won't work.

          I think you need to conserve energy -- that's just good engineering after all, but that you also need to increase production of energy as well -- particularly less polluting sources.  You need to develop conventional sources and non conventional ones.

          •  well, true.. (0+ / 0-)

            We will need some energy sources regardless of efficiency efforts.  

            But I think the potential for efficiency improvements is far greater than you realize.  Refrigerators are just one example where over the past 20 years average electric usage per unit has dropped by about three quarters in several increments as federal standards have been designed.  Still, it can drop by perhaps another three quarters.  It's true that the remaining savings in absolute terms will be less but there is still a lot of potential.  

            I'm not saying that all of the savings will be as cheap as some of the past savings -- but they don't have to be to still be far more cost-effective than new supply additions.  If you haven't noticed, energy costs have gone up lately, creating a dramatic increase in cost-effective efficiency opportunities.

      •  However, designing for improved ... (0+ / 0-)

        ... efficiency leads to massive economies of scope, and places us on a learning curve to gaining ongoing dynamic economies over time.

        This is why putting things in terms of conservation is such a cul-de-sac ...

        ... putting ongoing effort into squeezing down energy use, which is what comes to peoples mind when they talk about conservation, is something that has diminishing marginal returns.

        However, putting effort into establishing more efficient systems can achieve exponential returns. If you have five steps in a process, and you can reduce the energy required to accomplish each step by 20%, 10%, 5%, 25%, 5% ...

        ... each design change may be low hanging fruit from the fact that the original design was done during a period of ultra-cheap energy, and there are more effective ways to do things now that energy is only moderately cheap ...

        ... but in the end you could well cut the energy consumption of the process in half, without sacrificing anything in the final result.

        And if we enter into a period of moderately expensive energy in the next ten years (given the US sustainable energy sources, there's never any reason for us to enter a period of extremely expensive energy) ... then another round of redesign to suit those conditions may well yield similar improvements.

        And since, instead of being stingy with how we use existing systems, we are putting new systems in place that are more efficient, we are going to experience ongoing dynamic benefits from each of those design changes through normal learning curve effects.

        •  Exergy (1+ / 0-)

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          Systems efficiencies are definitely the way to go.  Thinking through the process to the end result and identifying the waste along the way so that the entire system can be maximized for both process and end use efficiency is a logical way to progress.

          Solar is civil defense. Video of my small scale solar experiments at http://solarray.blogspot.com/2006/03/solar-video.html

          by gmoke on Sun May 11, 2008 at 10:27:27 AM PDT

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    •  Energy Efficiency and History (2+ / 0-)

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      Since the first energy crisis in the early 1970s, I have been following the polls on what people want to do about energy.  Never seen one that didn't favor a focus on renewables and efficiency.  Usually the numbers are around 70% of the population want more renewables and efficiency over oil, coal, and nuclear.

      Never happened and, the way we are still going, never will.

      Oil, coal, nuclear get funding that's about 10 times what renewables and efficiency garner.  Efficiency is an especially hard sell.  How do you promote using less in a late stage capitalistic economy based upon addictive consumerism?

      Solar is civil defense. Video of my small scale solar experiments at http://solarray.blogspot.com/2006/03/solar-video.html

      by gmoke on Mon May 05, 2008 at 06:20:26 PM PDT

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      •  Well, the sectors most tagged with being (4+ / 0-)

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        capitalistic - industry, commercial, retail - have been increasing efficiencies for decades. The chain/box stores all use high efficiency lights, fluorescents and metal vapor ones that beat out LED lighting. Industry has long used combined heat and power, heat exchangers to recover waste heat, and so on.

        It's the consumerist part of the economy were the problem arises; the engine that drives the works. The average citizen puts far less effort into understanding the implications of a purchase than a typical business does.

        I think it comes down to education, getting public figures to lead by example, and developing replacements for revenue streams lost to increased efficiency.  Greatly reduce the amount of bottled water? Instead of stacks of cases of it, have vending machines that use reverse osmosis and corona discharge to polish the local water for filling reusable water bottles; things like that.

  •  Very interesting diary! (2+ / 0-)

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    Thanks, gmoke.

  •  Well (4+ / 0-)

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    As for my environmentalism I'm not A Siegel or Jerome, both of whom have considerable experience with energy.  I would say there is definitely a xenophobic element to the discussion of energy independence, and it does play on ideas of national superiority and fear of foreign manipulation, both of which in and of themselves are often demonstrably false, or at least bad ground for energy strategy.  Ghosts are played up in Washington about threats to our supply, although those threats themselves are not imaginery.

    Plus, he knows what crapped out means, which will help him explain his condition on the morning of November 5 - PBCliberal

    by Nulwee on Mon May 05, 2008 at 06:06:17 PM PDT

  •  slightly the wrong question (3+ / 0-)

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    Should we be energy self-sufficient? Of course.

    Will be we? Probably not.

    Could we be? Unknown.

    We're going to run out of oil right at the moment that huge developing nations (India and China) develop an enormous appetite for it.

    That doesn't make ethanol a good idea, but it makes the hunt for a good idea imperative.

    It makes conservation essential, and that, at least, market forces will probably push at least a little bit.

    Beware all ventures which require new clothes, and not a new wearer of clothes. -- Henry David Thoreau

    by Shocko from Seattle on Mon May 05, 2008 at 06:26:32 PM PDT

  •  I wonder what that BTU/$ of GDP... (1+ / 0-)

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    ...would look like after those dollars were adjusted for inflation.  Probably nowhere near as impressive a statistic for conservation as the nominal dollar figures.

    "Iraq: the bravest 1% fighting for the richest 1%." ~ An Unknown Kossack.

    by Neon Vincent on Mon May 05, 2008 at 07:11:14 PM PDT

    •  Adjusted for Inflation (1+ / 0-)

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      My memory may be wrong but I thought Bryce was fairly scrupulous about using constant dollars.

      Solar is civil defense. Video of my small scale solar experiments at http://solarray.blogspot.com/2006/03/solar-video.html

      by gmoke on Mon May 05, 2008 at 07:55:05 PM PDT

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      •  In that case, the figures are impressive. (1+ / 0-)

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        Thanks for the prompt response!

        "Iraq: the bravest 1% fighting for the richest 1%." ~ An Unknown Kossack.

        by Neon Vincent on Mon May 05, 2008 at 07:58:21 PM PDT

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        •  I Could Be Wrong (1+ / 0-)

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          I wouldn't trust me as far as I can throw me.

          However, I did some back of the envelope calculations of my own on energy and productivity in the early 1990s and found that there was at least one year (1994?) when GDP kept growing while energy use actually declined.  

          Wish I still had that envelope.

          Solar is civil defense. Video of my small scale solar experiments at http://solarray.blogspot.com/2006/03/solar-video.html

          by gmoke on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:04:54 PM PDT

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  •  You are far more positive than I ... (1+ / 0-)

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    will have an "Energy Bookshelf" in a few days.  Global Warming skeptic (at best), uses true facts to support truthiness.

    Energy Independence is, to a great extent, political rhetoric over substance, yes Bryce, but Gusher of Lies has a lot of misleading material.

    •  Most Realistic Energy Book (1+ / 0-)

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      Edwin Black's Internal Combustion, a history of the gasoline engine and American transportation (I wrote two or three diaries from my notes on that one).  If you want to know the future, study the past and this past is very, very shady, monopolistic and manipulative from the very beginning.

      I thought Bryce's main point, that "energy independence" is a politically cynical talking point, was spot on.  There's a lot in the book I don't agree with and I'm not really positive about his work, especially where it concerns climate change and nuclear, but that core point is solid to me and that's what I wanted to emphasize.

      Solar is civil defense. Video of my small scale solar experiments at http://solarray.blogspot.com/2006/03/solar-video.html

      by gmoke on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:28:36 PM PDT

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      •  Agree about 90% with (1+ / 0-)

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        the Energy Independence point, but there is so much else in that book, so much that is wrapped in there ... he plays with data re renewables & misrepresents; he has an inevitability of growth of fossil fuel use (rather than 'unless things change signficantly'); Peak Oil?; many real/coming technologies not part of his discussion (PHEVs); etc ...

        •  Agreed (1+ / 0-)

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          His take on climate change, "lay back and enjoy it," is particularly myopic.  I prefer not to go into the weeds with my disagreements and focus on the main point because I think it is important to see the practical falsehoods behind the political cudgel "energy independence" has become this campaign season.

          Solar is civil defense. Video of my small scale solar experiments at http://solarray.blogspot.com/2006/03/solar-video.html

          by gmoke on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:37:10 AM PDT

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  •  If a nation is not energy independent ... (0+ / 0-)

    ... it does not have an ecologically sustainable economy.

    Of course, its necessary but not sufficient ... but rejecting the necessary because it is not progress.

    •  Energy Independence (0+ / 0-)

      Iceland will probably be the first 100% energy independent nation in the modern world.  They are planning on building a hydrogen economy based, mostly, on their abundant geothermal energy supply.  Will that make them an ecologically sustainable economy?  Maybe so, maybe not.

      Ultimately, one idea is to live within our annual solar budget in order to become a sustainable society, if not a restorative one.  

      Solar is civil defense. Video of my small scale solar experiments at http://solarray.blogspot.com/2006/03/solar-video.html

      by gmoke on Sun May 11, 2008 at 10:30:21 AM PDT

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      •  'Not sufficient' does not mean 'not necessary' (0+ / 0-)

        Energy Independence is necessary for sustainability.

        People discovering that it is not sufficient for sustainability and therefore deciding it is not necessary are pursuing a line of reasoning that leads nowhere.

        After all:

        Sustainable + Unsustainable = Unsustainable.

        No One Dimension of sustainability is ever sufficient, no matter how necessary it is.

        This goes right back to "silver bullet" thinking ... the hope/assumption/presumption that there will be some kind of magic technological advance that will automatically set everything right.

        There can't be any such thing ... indeed, that kind of thinking, looking for a single solution that covers all bases, is a big part of the problem.

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