And no, Hillary, Indiana didn't break any tie.
Update: She needs money. Of course.
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Full speed ahead?
by General Disarray on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:40:31 PM PDT
"The future is ours, not to predict, but to create" -- Al Gore, 2008
by Feeling Blue on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:41:05 PM PDT
[ Parent ]
"The concentration [of the legislative, executive and judicial powers] in the same hands is precisely the definition of despotic government." - Jefferson
by El Payo on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:41:33 PM PDT
"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are" ~Teddy R.
by gregonthe28th on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:41:54 PM PDT
by Great Uncle Bulgaria on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:43:08 PM PDT
did she fall out the pickup ?
by Steven R on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:43:59 PM PDT
About to cross 200,000k... may end up besting her PA showing
by Steven R on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:45:27 PM PDT
by Eikyu Saha on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:32 PM PDT
Obama increased his lead in delegates tonight. She can't catch up no matter what unless Obama is struck with a tragedy.
"The United States will always do the right thing, after trying all the other options." ~ Winston Churchill
by Gregory Wonderwheel on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:49:12 PM PDT
by Great Uncle Bulgaria on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:44:34 PM PDT
and I'm not referring to the band..
fouls, excesses and immoderate behavior are scored ZERO at Over the Line, Smokey!
by seesdifferent on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:55:08 PM PDT
She views her campaign the way that the WH views the "surge" in Iraq.
Some men see things as they are and ask why. I see things that never were and ask why not?
by RFK Lives on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:45:01 PM PDT
Because after that she starts imagining sniper fire.
"Animals are my friends. And I don't eat my friends." -- George Bernard Shaw
by Hudson on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:47:31 PM PDT
I don't like it there.
I'm going to stick to Reality World, OK?
Thanks!
by mellowinman on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:48:35 PM PDT
for her to plug her website? Anyone clock it?
by lextalionis on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:43:25 PM PDT
"Help!!! I'm being Enlightened!" - TCFKNCS's avatar
by RhymesWithUrple on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:44:08 PM PDT
hillaryclinton.com and support our campaign."
Pea Coil?
by Grass on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:42:56 PM PDT
by Feeling Blue on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:44:04 PM PDT
GO THERE OLD PEOPLE! Do you know what the inter net is?
John McCain graduated in the lowest 1% of his Naval Academy class.
by glutz78 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:42:57 PM PDT
by HugoDog on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:44:31 PM PDT
by Sharon Jumper on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:45:05 PM PDT
So if you are the Big Tree, We are the small axe, ready to cut you down... to cut you down - Bob Marley
by SmallAxe on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:48:56 PM PDT
will cheer him right up.
by Sharon Jumper on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:54:10 PM PDT
the faux Camelot is done for.
Argue for your limitations and you own them - bach
by dRefractor on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:06:15 PM PDT
Bill's looking so down, he knows it's over, she thanked everyone, asked for money, then hit on FL and MI again.
"People should not vote for any Republican, because they're dangerous, dishonest and self-serving"
by Wary on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:57:06 PM PDT
Old Clinton Democrats are my friends. We'll need every last one of them this fall.
Obama supporters need to be good winners down the stretch. Repeat after me, Clinton Democrats care about the same things I do. Clinton Democrats care...
by TrueBlueCT on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:45:19 PM PDT
by virginwoolf on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:50:30 PM PDT
Still OLD woman, but I used to be a Clinton supporter. Not any longer.
by Wary on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:58:42 PM PDT
I read this comment and her next like was, "I need your help to continue this journey"
It's also telling that her crowd breaks out into the "yes we will" chant which is a rip off of Obama's "yes we can". Sort of symbolic.
--- Photography, Politics, and Chicago
by sterno on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:43:08 PM PDT
I'd contribute if it would get her to drop out
by NY John on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:43:09 PM PDT
"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Will Rogers
by AntKat on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:45:59 PM PDT
that's a good one.
John McCain loves to suck on sausage with Lindsey Graham.
by The Dead Man on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:21:28 PM PDT
They usually need more funds to pay off debts after the elections. That is not a phone call I would want to be making to donors.
I assume winners have to do the same thing, but it is probably easier to find people willing to donate to someone they know won.
by Snoman on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:35:24 PM PDT
Obama won more delegates than she did tonight. That is a loss. She can't pretend like her IN "win" was a draw. NC has more delegates and so Obama's win by a larger margin in NC than her win in IN gives Obama more delegates overall so his delegate lead is increased. Hillary fell further behind tonight. That is not a win.
But there she is saying she won tonight. What a joke. What delusion!
by Gregory Wonderwheel on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:43:46 PM PDT
They are at least good at that.
by Robinson Eaton on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:45:15 PM PDT
She just doesn't get it.
She's too busy begging for money and pandering this Gas-Tax crap!
"To be persuasive, we must be believable; to be believable, we must be credible; to be credible, we must be truthful." - Edward R. Murrow
by DRStarks on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:45:36 PM PDT
He hasn't broken a smile. He looks like he is PO'd and disgusted.
Of course she is asking for money, one of her campaign members said she "may" have loaned her campaign money again.
by blackandaztec on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:47:51 PM PDT
will not fly for a second with the super delegates. They are not that stupid.
by johndeebo on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:49:46 PM PDT
They will see that Obama got more delegates tonight an dhas increased his lead. More will go for Obama this week.
by Gregory Wonderwheel on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:07:53 PM PDT
...wait for it...
The Republicans...
by enflow on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:44:43 PM PDT
From Ben Smith:
Another Clinton loan?
I asked Clinton campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe just now whether Clinton had given or loaned her campaign more money in the run-up to North Carolina and Indiana.
"Might be. Might not be," McAuliffe said, adding that the campaign would release more fundraising details tomorrow.
In the past, Clinton aides have denied a second Clinton loan, but McAuliffe said tonight his policy is not to talk about fundraising details.
by DRStarks on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:47:14 PM PDT
by NY John on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:51 PM PDT
She makes my head hurt
by General Disarray on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:41:34 PM PDT
without the pleasant ice cream aftertaste....
Alex Choose Our President 2008
by ourprez08 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:43:59 PM PDT
Off to find the credit card again for the second time tonight. Someone stop this delusional woman.
Eyes on the Prize - JedReport
by juslikagrzly on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:43:01 PM PDT
by RhymesWithUrple on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:48:49 PM PDT
wonderful night huh?
Just donated another $25 just because she's begging for money.
Mr. Juslikagrzly said this is her original speech for the big win and she didn't change it. I believe he's right.
by juslikagrzly on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:52:15 PM PDT
And for the record - Mr. JLaG and Mr. Urple both said basically the same thing. I guess those two are pretty smart after all!
by RhymesWithUrple on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:55:50 PM PDT
will we :-).
by juslikagrzly on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:26:38 PM PDT
I need to change my vote in the poll below:)
by glass house on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:43:23 PM PDT
Are you distressed about it?
-3.12, -5.90McCain Straight Talk: "I don't know enough about it to give you an informed answer ..."
by AaronInSanDiego on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:08 PM PDT
i said that exact phrase to my wife just now. omfg. it's time for the other pill, Alice.
by peril on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:43:30 PM PDT
is that this nightmare of a speech, with the "Yes, she can" cheers, is just a momentary delusion.
Certainly the hurt and dejected look on Bill Clinton's face speaks volumes.
by TrueBlueCT on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:43:43 PM PDT
Bill's lack of a smile says it all.
by Gregory Wonderwheel on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:45:49 PM PDT
"I will work for the Democratic nominee..."
Then she talked about how important it is to win in the fall.
You go girl. Somehow we'll get through this.
Donna Brazile may have to rough up Lanny Davis, but we will pull together with so much at stake.
by TrueBlueCT on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:50:06 PM PDT
by blackandaztec on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:50:21 PM PDT
"on to the White House," which clinched the diagnosis for me.
There is no such thing as a free market.
by Albanius on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:29 PM PDT
... Bill, I said all the things I was supposed to tell the rubes! The gas tax, families, values, elite.....blah blah blah. Why am I not winning???!!!"
by heliosfootball on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:47:47 PM PDT
Donate.
Next: Taking McCain down!
Rupert Murdoch is on the Associated Press Board of Directors!!!
by Lava20 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:41:26 PM PDT
This is not the growly voice Hillary, the southern belle Hillary, the tearful Hillary or the ballsy Hillary. This is the Obama Hillary
by Kitty on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:44:13 PM PDT
by NY John on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:50:36 PM PDT
yes and out of her ever lovin power hungry mind! holy cow...
by Dazy on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:41:49 PM PDT
she's so low class
by NY John on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:44:21 PM PDT
...and then without taking a breath asked for people to go to her website to donate. Seriously. That isn't a joke.
by Gumpster on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:47 PM PDT
they want this disgusting sideshow to continue. If they do, they clearly don't want to win the presidency. I've gotta say, though, the Democratic party does a whale of a job fucking up elections.
by Man in Black on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:44:28 PM PDT
..for winning NC? Obama, always gracious congratulated her even though Indiana hadn't even been called.
Pathetic.
by sofia on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:45:48 PM PDT
just before the plea for cash.
by JRG on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:51:38 PM PDT
..downthread, she COMMENDED him, not congratulated him. Either way, she said it so fast that many missed it altogether.
by sofia on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:54:41 PM PDT
by NY John on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:52:30 PM PDT
Counter-productive?
by TrueBlueCT on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:37 PM PDT
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by dmsilev on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:41:53 PM PDT
Why?
by David Kroning on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:43:04 PM PDT
The definition of insanity is voting the same way and expecting a different result. I'm talking to you FL,OH, KY, WV!
by Shhs on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:44:25 PM PDT
Seeing Obama's lead increse tonight will bring more out of the closet for Obams.
by Gregory Wonderwheel on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:45 PM PDT
...was still afloat and underway.
by Foodle on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:44:39 PM PDT
She's got a lot of gall to call her victory right now. I guess she's watching CBS. If she loses, she's REALLY screwed because now this speech is going to be played with her looking like an absolute fool.
Not that she's not finished anyhow, but it will reduce her chances of having a smidgen of grace in her exit.
by sterno on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:42:05 PM PDT
The money is going to dry up and Obama will have a lot of supers jumping on board.
It is OK.
Wer kämpft, kann verlieren. Wer nicht kämpft, hat schon verloren. Bertolt Brecht
by MoDem on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:43:27 PM PDT
that vituperative yammering moron hasn't got an ounce of grace or common sense left in her empty power mad. It's a vacuum in there, nothing but her quest for the preccccioussss..
The trick is in what one emphasizes. We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves happy. The amount of work is the same." Carlos Castaneda
by FireCrow on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:45:23 PM PDT
who could take her seriously now?
"I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused..." - Elvis
by Gearhead on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:42:06 PM PDT
Blood red face. Half-hearted clapping. He knows she's toast.
by Sharon Jumper on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:47:23 PM PDT
Please make a fuel stop at her website to donate :-)
by tosan1212 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:42:09 PM PDT
"You are very wise, Van Helsing, for one who has yet to live a single lifetime." - Count Dracula
by collardgreens on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:43:07 PM PDT
she's reading a children's book to a class of kindergarteners.
by dick armey on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:48:49 PM PDT
for a website plug.
by ibtz on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:43:09 PM PDT
After taking several readings, I'm surprised to find my mind is still fairly sound. Willie Nelson
by cactusflinthead on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:45:35 PM PDT
....and can somebody find out what that smell in the boiler room is?
Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others.
by Aqualad08 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:43:20 PM PDT
WTF?
NY Times Headline NOV 5th: Obama in a landslide!
by Ianb007 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:44:59 PM PDT
Wouldn't it be humorous if she ends up losing Indiana after claiming victory and talking up the supposed "tie-breaker"?
Hat in hand again? classy!
Hey supers! End this!!!!
Irish for O'Bama!
by Jaime Schulte on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:47:06 PM PDT
"whatever happens I will work the Democratic nominee" (after I spend the next four weeks undermining him)
by Jaime Schulte on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:50:49 PM PDT
Has anyone else? I mean it hasn't been called for her, and she's up there saying 'it's full steam ahead to the White House"--and yeah, go donate to my campaign--LOL!!!
What a truly sad little candidate she is
But here's the thing, old Harold Ford was out there tonight saying that Obama SHOULD get her on the ticket--I think that's where she's going with this, so desperate to get back in the White House to have that old DLC'er presence with the power, they can't let go.
STILL too close to call, and there she is like she's 'won'--who ever heard of the like, --I mean???
by Wary on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:51:13 PM PDT
Boris: You're a tyrant, and a dictator, and you start wars! Napoleon: Why is he reciting my credits?
by B man on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:40:37 PM PDT
I forgot my mantra.
by karenz on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:41:19 PM PDT
they all say that right before they drop out.
"No ... human ... would stack books like this."
by socratic on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:41:59 PM PDT
... George Bush?
by Hudson on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:45:59 PM PDT
Not only are we going to New Hampshire, Tom Harkin, we're going to South Carolina and Oklahoma and Arizona and North Dakota and New Mexico, and we're going to California and Texas and New York ... And we're going to South Dakota and Oregon and Washington and Michigan, and then we're going to Washington, D.C., to take back the White House!
by unterhausen on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:39 PM PDT
Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -6.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.67
by bythesea on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:48:00 PM PDT
by B man on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:41:26 PM PDT
To me, this sums up the campaigns perfectly. Yes she will vs. Yes we can.
On the whole, human beings want to be good, but not too good and not quite all the time. - George Orwell
by arkansasblue on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:42:47 PM PDT
Yes, she will!
But don't forget that most men without property would rather protect the possibility of becoming rich, than face the reality of being poor. (1776)
by banjolele on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:44:15 PM PDT
Yes, she will!!
JOHN McCAIN = George W. Bush's 3rd term.
by chumley on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:49:26 PM PDT
win..yes yes yes...I was promised
Jeeze, she is sounding like when my youngest whne he was a brat (before he became an incredible grown up)
by housesella on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:44:16 PM PDT
McCain housing policy shaped by lobbyist
by sgilman on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:45:42 PM PDT
"Yes, she will."
John McCain: Like Hope, But Different.
by malharden on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:01 PM PDT
is how clever her supporter think they are when they say it.
I mail myself a copy of the Constitution every morning just on the hope the Bush administration will open it and see what it says.--Bill Maher
by dancingdemocrat on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:51 PM PDT
The United States of America--the only country in the world where being educated and cultured actually *lowers* your social and political standing.
by LordMike on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:47:16 PM PDT
of your opponent's....
by The Dead Man on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:28:47 PM PDT
Oh, my God.
"Sunni, Shi'a. You say to-ma-to, I say to-mah-to." (McCain will be heard saying this before the general election ends.)
by RoCali on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:41:33 PM PDT
by jodygirl on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:41:33 PM PDT
hedging her bets perhaps? there are plenty of houses that are also white, after all
*sips latte*
by Choom Gang Vets for Truth on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:41:37 PM PDT
ABC =shoddy and despicable
by zombie on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:42:43 PM PDT
"Kid, we don't like your kind, and we're gonna send your fingerprints off to Washington."--Alice's Restaurant
by ekthesy on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:42:54 PM PDT
she needs a white room - with padding and everything!
by Gearhead on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:43:16 PM PDT
by Zornhau on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:41:40 PM PDT
that is all I can think of to explain what the Clinton campaign considers reality...
Join us in the Grieving Room on Monday evenings to discuss mourning and loss.
by Dem in the heart of Texas on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:41:51 PM PDT
Did he have a few too many cocktails or has he been out in the sun too long?
by Man in Black on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:42:06 PM PDT
Probably sunburn.
Or maybe he just killed Evan Bayh.
I love the smell of impeachment in the morning!
by gabbardd on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:44:20 PM PDT
dress to the rally tonight. But I guess not. Maybe next time.
by Man in Black on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:45:46 PM PDT
by gabbardd on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:22:20 PM PDT
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by Lipo on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:42:11 PM PDT
If she ends up losing Indiana in the end.
don't respond to the lies... put two bits in your Obama jar and spite them with his fund raising!
by Libesatva on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:42:32 PM PDT
by Shhs on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:15 PM PDT
Kind of bold for her to claim the victory before it's called...
And none shall think how very young we were.
by The Crying Monkey on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:40:39 PM PDT
If she wins, she projects stoicism or something in the face of adversity. If she loses she only looks a little dumb.
by Choom Gang Vets for Truth on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:43:00 PM PDT
is that if she loses, it's really, truly, finally, please-god-let-it-be over whatever she says.
by The Crying Monkey on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:53 PM PDT
I just looked at a census figure I googled up http://www.infoplease.com/...
and if I'm reading it correctly (and I'm so excited I could be completely insane) but looks like Gary Indiana - Lake County of course - is 84% African American?
Can that POSSIBLY be right?
by dwgelbman on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:44:17 PM PDT
It is an 'extended suburb' of Chicago.
by tln41 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:48:03 PM PDT
or yes that figure is correct?
Okay, maybe the answer is "all of the above"
by dwgelbman on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:49:35 PM PDT
but this should push Obama's numbers significantly up.
by Eikyu Saha on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:54:02 PM PDT
goes Obama by wide margin and she lose Indiana. By saying that she won she's put herself in the corner. That will be a well seen youtube clip...
by New Sweden on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:45:03 PM PDT
