Hey, read *this*, Einstein!

This is a silly Saturday night diary with limited political relevance and less redeeming social value, but I think it might be fun.  Actually, it is two small games in one, so it might be double the fun.

I expect that others have thoroughly plowed this intellectual ground before, but I haven't, and it's more fun to be told a story than to sift through dry books looking for it.  So, here we go:

The surnames (occasionally with given names) of some people, like Albert Einstein, have become shortcuts in our culture for certain characteristics.  To call someone "Einstein" -- but, oddly, not Galileo or Newton -- is to call them a genius.  To call them a "Rembrandt" -- but, oddly, not Picasso or van Gogh or Michelangelo -- is to call them a great artist.  To call them "Benedict Arnold" -- but not, say, Joe Lieberman -- is to call them a traitor.

I'm not sure what this class of linguistic appellations is called, but it may have something to do with metonymy as well as possibly prototypes and exemplars.  (Someone here will know.)

So, your task, you Einsteins, is as follows:

(1) Let's come up with a definitive list of names that serve this function in common American English -- or through in foreign examples if you'd like, I'm easy -- as well as (in the case of Picasso versus Rembrandt), names that seem like they would have made more sense as the prime example for that characteristic or role.

(2) OK, so much for the intellectual part.  Now for the fun, and perhaps political, part.  Let's propose some more metonymic (I'll change that term when someone tells me what the right one is) names that aren't yet in popular usage.

  (a) Some of these names should apply to society in general.

  (b) Some of these names should apply to the netroots, and especially our own beloved Daily Kos.

  (c) Names under (b) should not be insulting unless it is very, very funny.

Oh, the third task is: have fun.

•  Thought of this too late to include a poll

  so one will be up a few minutes.  I look forward to seeing people dive in!

  by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 08:53:19 PM PDT

  •  Poll is up!

    That didn't take long, because I didn't bother to be especially creative.

    Don't make that mistake yourselves!

    by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:01:19 PM PDT

  •  Being a Dem, I Often Cast Votes That Don't Count

    nt

    by Gooserock on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:10:05 PM PDT

    •  Oh ho!

      Ha ha! Ahem. Hmm. [weeps]

      by liberalis on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 10:00:54 PM PDT

  •  at work

    when one of my guys totally fucks something up I tell them "Heck of a job Brownie". Or if they come up with some completely wrong measurements I tell them them nice job Pythagorus.

    by FireCrow on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:10:38 PM PDT

    •  Very nice, Dwight.... ;7)

      by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:14:22 PM PDT

  •  Sunken Golamba!

    Always thought Harry Carry should have said that when the Cubs lost another one!

    by deepsouthdoug on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:39:37 PM PDT

•  Let's not forget Santorum,

  the frothy biproduct.

  by Bindle on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:02:25 PM PDT

  •  A different, but related, use

    of a surname.  You don't call someone "Santorum."  (At least I don't.)

    by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:06:03 PM PDT

    •  Only because we can't think of any activity...

      ...slimy enough to deserve that analogy.  Rick was in a class all his own.

      by ArtSchmart on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:12:14 PM PDT

      •  well, at least we have a fetid sludge named

        after the Rickster.  

        by kate mckinnon on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 10:23:45 PM PDT

•  Whose brain did you borrow, Bush's? n/t

  by beegee kochav on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:03:17 PM PDT

•  I've heard "Hawking"

  instead of Einstein.

  And have also heard "Picasso" used instead of Rembrandt. However I've never heard "Warhol".

  Back a long time ago boys with long hair were occasionally insulted by elders who would personalize it by calling the boy "Ringo", as in "Get a haircut, Ringo". But not John, Paul or George...or Mick.

  by Shahryar on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:05:32 PM PDT

  •  Interesting - and yes, I've heard "Ringo" too

    In fact, in typifying a Brit, it was used in Pulp Fiction.

    I haven't heard "Hawking" used that way and I don't think I've heard "Picasso," though I'm less sure.  Do you agree that "Rembrant" is more common -- which is sort of odd, given that people are probably more familiar with Picasso than Rembrandt?

    As for "Warhol," well, he was assertively not a fine artist, but a graphic artist, conceptual artist, and entrepreneurial businessman.  If I called someone "Warhol," it would not be a compliment.  It would be like calling them "Yoko" (which, I realize, does happen to some women who horn in on a male clique by dating one of them.)

    I think we may find, oddly enough, that there are a lot of names involving boxers.

    by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:11:21 PM PDT

    •  yes on Rembrandt

      and Michelangelo.

      I'm sure Shakespeare and Beethoven fit in here somehow.

      by Shahryar on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:18:03 PM PDT

      •  Reading Shakespeare this evening

        is actually what prompted this diary.

        Beethoven, though -- I don't hear people called "Beethoven" to express classical music prowess.  As I think of it, the one I think I hear is "Mozart."

        As for singers in general, it's still probably "Elvis" or even "Sinatra."  (And I'm not even that old.)  Is there a rock star whose name who gets used this way?  My sense of things, running it through my mind, is that it's probably more likely for hip-hop stars, but I can't say for sure.

        by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:25:02 PM PDT

        •  Perhaps Sting?

          by ogre on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 10:05:01 PM PDT

          •  I've never heard someone called that

            I guess I've heard "Morrisey" and "Boy George," but for very specific types.

            by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 10:38:11 PM PDT

  •  Other Names Might Sound Like I.D. Mistake

    You say "Ringo" in the 60's or 70's and you mean one exact person on earth.

    by Gooserock on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:13:03 PM PDT

    •  Yep: Packers Hall of Fame center Jim Ringo.

      What?  You aren't from Wisconsin?  Then I guess it could be Oscar Bonavena, a boxer who died too young.  (But that one I had to look up!)

      by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:19:17 PM PDT

      •  geez, what a story!

        that ending sounds like a movie.

        by Shahryar on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:21:58 PM PDT

        •  You could probably make a good biopic of him

          I only vaguely remembering him fighting Ali and Frazier back in the day.  I hadn't known how he died until today.

          by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:26:58 PM PDT

    •  you mean this one (1964)?

      by N in Seattle on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:50:54 PM PDT

  •  Your a real JD ! I'm cute tooo..

    by Johnny Rapture on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:17:31 PM PDT

  •  Yoko

    by The Termite on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:24:22 PM PDT

•  oh yeah...Quisling

  the Euro equivalent of Benedict Arnold

  by Shahryar on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:08:39 PM PDT

•  Oh No! I just Cheney'd my friend ...

  not that one ... the one over there with the pellets in his face.

  by akdude6016 on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:09:36 PM PDT

  •  The problem with that is

    Cheney's list of egregious behavior is so long that I don't initially think of shooting someone in the face when I hear "Cheneyed". It falls somewhere after having no respect for the rule of law, and being the puppeteer behind a president.

    by CalexanderJ on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 10:28:29 PM PDT

•  There's always Quisling, for a collaborator.

  Maybe we can ask Nancy P. about that at NN.

  by ArtSchmart on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:10:28 PM PDT

  •  Two Bloody Seconds.

    If I hadn't included the swipe about Galileo, I would have been first. Dammit.

    by Ray Radlein on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:11:18 PM PDT

    •  Mojo for the idea. :)

      by ArtSchmart on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:13:42 PM PDT

      •  Get in line!

        see above! :-)

        by Shahryar on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:16:08 PM PDT

        •  Damn!

          I have to learn to type faster.

          by ArtSchmart on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:18:40 PM PDT

•  Never Mind Benedict Arnold:

  Quisling is last-name only, and a lot od folks don't even realize it was a name at all.

  
  
  
  
  PS — Might one reason why no one uses "Galileo" as a descriptive surname be the fact that it was his first name?

  by Ray Radlein on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:10:30 PM PDT

  •  hey Ray

    I see you survived the duck fucking incident. I hope you are ok.  ;)

    by FireCrow on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:12:27 PM PDT

    •  Excuse me, but

      that phrase is a proper noun now, so you should capitalize it.

      by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:13:20 PM PDT

  •  Yeah, but most people don't know that

    Without knowing or ever having seen a poll, I would bet that most Americans, at least, think that it is his last name.  Michaelangelo, I'm less sure about.

    by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:12:41 PM PDT

    •  "Michaelangelo, I'm less sure about."

      Less sure it's a first name? (It is.) Or less sure Americans know that?

      by ArtSchmart on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:17:18 PM PDT

      •  The latter

        I forget what his last name is.  I think it may be Signorile.

        by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:21:13 PM PDT

        •  Buonarroti.

          by ArtSchmart on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:22:36 PM PDT

          •  The San Francisco treat?

            by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:28:26 PM PDT

          •  which reminds me of Napoleon

            to describe any shorter guy who likes to control things.

            by Shahryar on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:28:46 PM PDT

            •  Or a Belgian pastry.

              by ArtSchmart on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:29:42 PM PDT

              •  Or a short Belgian pastry

                that likes to control things.

                by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 10:39:18 PM PDT

            •  That's a good one, yes

              Napoleon -- and I suppose Hitler too, but you know where that takes us.

              And Che, but not Mao; Stalin, but not Lenin.  (Well, not usually Lenin.)

              by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:36:40 PM PDT

        •  Just noticed the link. LOL.

          Sounded close to another Renaissance artist, Signorelli, and I was scratching my head over that one.

          by ArtSchmart on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:28:20 PM PDT

          •  Oh, I'm just being a ...

            ... OK, whose name do we use for what I'm being?

            by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:29:34 PM PDT

            •  you're being a real Nixon about this

              not.

              by KenBee on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 11:19:41 PM PDT

    •  Michelangelo is also his first name.

      by Endangered Alaskan Dem on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:17:42 PM PDT

      •  what? His name is Michelangelo Michelangelo?

        just joking, although Galileo Galilei is pretty close to a double name, like Johnny Johnson, except Italian. :-)

        by Shahryar on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:31:00 PM PDT

    •  Michelangelo Buonarroti

      Learned that from reading The Agony and the Ecstasy many years ago.

      by N in Seattle on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:36:36 PM PDT

•  Your a real chaney up...Go chaney yourself

  Go chaney a Duck..

  by Johnny Rapture on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:15:51 PM PDT

•  Sherlock

  For one who is either astute or has a mastery of the obvious.

  by The Termite on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:25:14 PM PDT

  •  as in "No shit Sherlock" ?

    by buddabelly on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:30:17 PM PDT

    •  yup

      by The Termite on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:33:53 PM PDT

•  this is fun! Barrymore?

  Fred Astaire?

  I think "he's a Rockefeller" works, meaning someone's rich but maybe there's a second meaning developing these days.

  by Shahryar on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:25:41 PM PDT

  •  Yeah, I think that "Fred Astaire"

    would still work for dancing.  (Would "Gene Kelly"?  Anyone more modern or female?)

    by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:34:03 PM PDT

    •  Ginger, of course.

      by ArtSchmart on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:36:44 PM PDT

      •  Theoretically, yes, but

        does anyone ever call a female dancer "Ginger"?  More likely "Madonna."

        by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:39:21 PM PDT

        •  Feh!

          by ArtSchmart on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:41:01 PM PDT

          •  I'm not saying I *approve* of it

            I'm just reporting what I think people would do.

            They probably wouldn't say "Ze'eva Cohen," either, although perhaps they should.

            by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:42:20 PM PDT

•  Put yer John Hancock...

  right here on this check for me....

  Hancock was quite a tool, actually.  Drama queen and spoiled brat.

  by mem from somerville on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:28:22 PM PDT

  •  And thus, he has been reduced to

    two dimensions.

    You know, the only Founding Father I can think of who fits in this still-unnamed category may be Thomas Jefferson, representing a sort of refined, ethereal, philosophical genius.  I don't think we talk about "Franklin" types because no one can pull it off.

    "Aaron Burr" may be another one who exemplifies a type -- grasping and devious (unless you believe Gore Vidal) -- but it's hard when your last name is already a proper noun.

    by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:33:15 PM PDT

    •  Sam Adams is a beer now.

      I don't think that's bad...

      by mem from somerville on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:34:09 PM PDT

      •  Certainly one more dimension than Hancock

        unless you spill it.

        by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:35:03 PM PDT

    •  Paul Revere.

      For someone who sounds the needed alarm, they're a real Paul Revere.

      by doinaheckuvanutjob on Sun Jul 13, 2008 at 01:20:31 AM PDT

    •  Henry David Thoreau, and in earlier era, Davy

      Crockett-- someone who's philosophically into nature or thoughtful ideas is a real Thoreau, and someone into being resourceful in the wilderness, a Davy Crockett.

      by doinaheckuvanutjob on Sun Jul 13, 2008 at 01:23:13 AM PDT

•  Borgia.

  Cassandra.  Though that gets us into a murky area.

  Machiavelli.

  by ArtSchmart on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:40:16 PM PDT

  •  I see what you mean

    Adonis, for example.

    by Shahryar on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:43:33 PM PDT

    •  Mercurial. n/t

      by Dragon5616 on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:45:09 PM PDT

      •  The Midas touch. n/t

        by Dragon5616 on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:45:29 PM PDT

        •  Narcissus.

          Herculean.

          Lots of myths.

          by Dragon5616 on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:46:28 PM PDT

          •  Hercules.

            There are probably dozens of myth/historical figures from that era-- Ceasar, Apollo, etc. that signify a type.

            by doinaheckuvanutjob on Sun Jul 13, 2008 at 01:24:50 AM PDT

•  Thought of a few more I've heard used

  Florence Nightingale for kindness and nursing.

  Lewis and Clark for adventure.

  Johnny Appleseed...although that may have been more of a marketing campaign of some sort...

  by mem from somerville on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:40:17 PM PDT

  •  8 hits for "Johnny Appleseed of Pot"

    and none of them's me. :'(

    http://www.google.com/...

    by ben masel on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:49:12 PM PDT

    •  Work harder.

      Want my address ;)

      by mem from somerville on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:51:42 PM PDT

      •  Marc Emery actually deserves it.

        Indicted for shipping millions of seeds from Vancouver to US, still fighting extradition.

        by ben masel on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:55:55 PM PDT

•  Ever known anyone to pull an

  Emily Littella?

  Nevermind.

  by Dragon5616 on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:41:12 PM PDT

•  are you thinking of stuff like "boycott"?

  I bet not one in a thousand knows that the word comes directly from a person's name.  Even more of a direct taking than the one derived from Elbridge Gerry.

  by N in Seattle on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:41:29 PM PDT

  •  Well, *now* I am.... ;7)

    I'm thinking mostly of something that has become a noun typifying a trait or characteristic rather than an object or practice, but we'll add it to the pile and sift later.

    by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:43:49 PM PDT

  •  Well, then we have to consider Crapper!

    Fair's fair in...no, we don't want to go there.

    by ArtSchmart on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:43:50 PM PDT

•  don't forget "bunyanesque"

  Is reference to a fictional character acceptable?

  by N in Seattle on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:42:41 PM PDT

  •  if it is, then there's also...

    ...quixotic.

    by N in Seattle on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:43:31 PM PDT

  •  Ruthian! n/t

    by Shahryar on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:44:17 PM PDT

    •  a prodigious choice!

      Not quite fictional or mythical, but he's close.

      by N in Seattle on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:47:20 PM PDT

  •  I would set the rules here

    but I have to go pick up my wife from work.

    Everyone is in charge while I'm gone.

    by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:44:37 PM PDT

    •  PARRRR-TEEEE! n/t

      by Dragon5616 on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:47:25 PM PDT

      •  I'm in charge!

        ha!

        by Shahryar on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:49:51 PM PDT

        •  thank you, General Haig

          [ob-Watergate reference]

          by N in Seattle on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:51:59 PM PDT

          •  Which reminds me.

            Nixonian.

            by Dragon5616 on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:53:10 PM PDT

            •  or anything -gate

              by Shahryar on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:54:27 PM PDT

          •  I was hoping a fist fight would break out

            chairs being thrown, that sort of thing, with Seneca Doane leaving us before the substitute teacher gets here.

            by Shahryar on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:53:46 PM PDT

            •  Let's leave a whoopee cushion

              in his chair.

              by Dragon5616 on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:54:57 PM PDT

              •  From the company of

                Charlie Crist's fiancee, which (no kidding) invented it.

                If McCain picks him and wins, they'll have great Cabinet meetings.

                by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 10:42:18 PM PDT

                •  Jeff Gannon will continue to party in the WH

                  w/ Crist and 'bride'.

                  by doinaheckuvanutjob on Sun Jul 13, 2008 at 01:26:34 AM PDT

  •  Runyonesque.

    Damon.

    by ben masel on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:52:13 PM PDT

•  Platonic. n/t

  by Dragon5616 on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:50:56 PM PDT

  •  Socratic. n/t

    by ArtSchmart on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:54:06 PM PDT

•  Oh...Mary Mallon.

  Better known as Typhoid Mary.

  by mem from somerville on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:55:48 PM PDT

  •  Tokyo Rose. n/t

    by ArtSchmart on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:57:21 PM PDT

  •  How about

    He's a regular Houdini.

    by Dragon5616 on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:57:37 PM PDT

    •  How about...

      ...Mata Hari?

      by ArtSchmart on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:59:55 PM PDT

    •  I'm finding the "regular" modifier interesting

      I should have studied linguistics.

      A regular ....
      A real ....

      Not just similar! Well, similar, yes, but more than similar at the same time.

      by Shahryar on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 10:03:37 PM PDT

      •  Like "echt" in German, if that's any help.

        Meaning "authentic."

        by ArtSchmart on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 10:05:33 PM PDT

      •  My son is majoring in linguistics.

        I'll put him on the case.

        by Dragon5616 on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 10:06:12 PM PDT

•  Is "dumb blonde"

  originally attributable to Marilyn Monroe?

  And doesn't Dolly Parton have a particular meaning?

  by Dragon5616 on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 09:59:41 PM PDT

  •  Dumb blondes were a staple of the 1920s/30s,

    before Marilyn, so I think we have to let that one percolate longer.

    by ArtSchmart on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 10:01:43 PM PDT

  •  I don't know, but you made me think of

    Mae West.

    by Seneca Doane on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 10:43:40 PM PDT

    •  Lifejacket named for her. n/t

      by Dragon5616 on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 11:09:27 PM PDT

•  Edison!

  Wow, can't believe it took me that long to come up with Edison.  Apparently I'm no Edison....

  by mem from somerville on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 10:03:48 PM PDT

•  Marxist. n/t

  by Dragon5616 on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 10:04:24 PM PDT

  •  I was going to say, it should not be...

    ...someone who simply follows a famous person's theory.  But then I realized most self-proclaimed Marxists don't follow Marx's theory anyway.

    by ArtSchmart on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 10:08:08 PM PDT

•  Sadie Hawkins Day.

  Guy Fawkes Day.

  by Dragon5616 on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 10:07:10 PM PDT

  •  Okay, now we're reaching....

    by ArtSchmart on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 10:08:40 PM PDT

•  Can't believe these haven't come up yet:

  Hitler
  ("Don't be such a little Hitler")

  and Chamberlain. Rarer usage, but you see it thrown around politically in the wake of "appeasement" hysteria.

  Churchillian

  by ogre on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 10:12:57 PM PDT

  •  I think Hitler is such an evil character

    that that comparison just wouldn't come up that often.

    The next time somebody exterminates 6 million people I'll be the first to say he's a regular Hitler.

    by CalexanderJ on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 10:23:06 PM PDT

    •  I don't disagree with the characterization...

      But I've heard the phrase I offered as an example.

      But it's also in use any time someone wants to demonize a foreign leader.  Saddam was another Hitler...

      by ogre on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 10:41:21 PM PDT

•  Swift(ian) n/t

  by liberalis on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 10:16:47 PM PDT

•  On the subject of money

  Who do you think I am, Rothschild?

  Another favorite: Did Golda Meir wear support hose?

  by beegee kochav on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 10:23:06 PM PDT

  •  Keynesian. n/t

    by Dragon5616 on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 11:17:24 PM PDT

•  politics

  I think "Heckuva job, Brownie" will become a standard comment on observed incompetence.

  I'd also like to propose "Go get'em, Pelosi" to recognize cowardice or backing down from a confrontation.

  I'm trying to figure out whose name should be used for clever, biting sarcasm.  "You got mollied"?  or "Nice stewarting there, that had to hurt."

  by On Puget Sound on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 10:47:50 PM PDT

•  If it weren't for

  "Smooth move Ex-Lax" Sam and Maurey would have never hooked-up and Gro-Vont (not to mention Tim Sandlin) would have faded into obscurity.  

  by IDrankWhat on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 11:40:54 PM PDT

  •  ?????

    I think there must be a story there....

    by Seneca Doane on Sun Jul 13, 2008 at 12:55:47 AM PDT

    •  Actually 3 stories

      The Gro-Vont trilogy by Tim Sandlin (one of my favorite authors) chronicles the sometimes sad, but more often hilarious adventures of Sam Calahan and Maurey Peirce as they stumble toward maturity and good sense

      The book in the trilogy are:

      Skipped Parts

      Sorrow Floats

      Social Blunders

      All three excellent summertime reads.

      by IDrankWhat on Sun Jul 13, 2008 at 02:57:58 PM PDT

•  What Bozo came up with this idea?

  How Mickey Mouse can you get... must have been a real Superman...or Supergirl(to be fair and inclusive)....how Diabolic...so Macheavellian...how Faustian!

  or maybe he's just a Romeo or a Don Juan?

  Thanks for the fun diary and the new vocab word.

  Geronimo!!!

  by Melissa J on Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 11:43:56 PM PDT

•  Rasputin /eot

  by eyesoars on Sun Jul 13, 2008 at 12:01:51 AM PDT

•  Kilroy was here

  !     !
  0    0
     *
   (__)

  by manwithnoname on Sun Jul 13, 2008 at 04:50:07 AM PDT