Terry McAuliffe: Obama Should Pick Tim Kaine

In a rather surprising statement, former Clinton Campaign Chairman and Uber Clinton loyalist Terry McAuliffe is promoting Virginia Governor Tim Kaine as Obama's running mate in 2008.

According to Marc Ambinder of The Atlantic

So does he know something we don't?

Is the Hillary Clinton-as-Vice President movement dead, if one ever existed?  Was she ever under serious consideration by the Obama camp?  If she was, does McAuliffe's statement effectively end any and all speculation?

More below the fold.

Speaking at a high school earlier this week in Fairfax, Virginia, McAuliffe had this to say

Former National Dem Chief Says Virginia is Key

The former national chairman of the Democratic Party who ran Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign this year told 200 Democratic activists in Fairfax County Tuesday that Virginia Governor Tim Kaine would be his party's best choice as Barack Obama's vice presidential running mate...

McAuliffe was adamant in his recommendation of Kaine as the Democratic Party's vice presidential nominee Tuesday, although he stressed to the News-Press after his speech, which included an informal half-hour question and answer period, that the ultimate choice will be Obama's very personal one.

However, the fact that he proposed Kaine over his own candidate and long-time friend, Hillary Clinton, suggested that he knows the Clinton option is off the table.

He told the large audience in the school cafeteria that there are only two factors in picking a vice president.  The first, he said, is the ability of the choice to govern effectively as president, if need be.  The second is personal compatibility with the presidential candidate.

"These are the only two factors that really matter," he said. "Others, like geographical considerations, are much less important."

There you have it.  Bill and Hillary Clinton's most ardent supporter has now publicly declared his support for a candidate other than Hillary herself.  Personally, I'm not one of those who was instinctively opposed to Hillary being on the ticket with Obama. I was neither for it nor opposed to it; rather, I was open to the idea.  It is, after all, a very personal decision for the party's nominee and one that could be the most important he'll make in this campaign.  

Thoughts, ideas, suggestions?

•  did mcauliffe actually say something

  semi-intelligent?  wow...

  by thereisnospoon on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:25:38 PM PDT

  •  Na, its just something we already knew..

    really.

    by qmastertoo on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:28:04 PM PDT

  •  No, the question is

    If Terry McAuliffe says something in a high school gym, and nobody is there to hear it, is he still wrong?

    by aztecraingod on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:29:22 PM PDT

  •  it scares me when Terry M and I

    have exactly the same idea as to who the VP nominee should be!!!!

    by alba on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:38:22 PM PDT

  •  Even an idiot can ocassionally say something

    intelligent.  The exception that proves the rule.

    by DefendOurConstitution on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:41:22 PM PDT

•  No advice from McAwful.

  Because the guys just clueless.

  by brooklynbadboy on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:25:49 PM PDT

  •  Definitely do the opposite

    of whatever McAuliffe says.

    by Calouste on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:39:55 PM PDT

    •  You beat me to it

      if Terry Mac nominates someone, cross them off your list Obama, like yesterday!

      by RethinkEverything on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:00:49 PM PDT

      •  I think Kaine is very high on Obama's list----

        McAuliffe or not.  Obama and Kaine seem to have a mutual admiration and respect thing going on----very in tune with many of their positions.
         Kaine is not perfect----but then, no one is.  I wouldn't be surprised if he's the one.

        by dotster on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:18:40 PM PDT

  •  No advice from McAwful

    All these so-called Dem "leaders" keep trying to get Obama to pick a DLC typt as his Vice President. They keep on advisnf him to pick folks like Clinton, Sam Nunn, Evan Byeh, and now this. I keep thinking to myself, "Shut-up! And quit trying run Obama's campaign for him all you pro-Republican sell-out Dems."

    by William Domingo on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:52:48 PM PDT

    •  you're not attempting to imply

      that Tim Kaine is the same ideologically as Bayh and Nunn are you?  Because, there is no question that isn't true.

      by OH 09 Dem on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:25:12 PM PDT

•  Who's Your Pick for VP?

  I don't have a personal favorite.  Obama knows a hell of a lot more than I do.  So, I'll leave it up to him and trust his choice.

  

  by JekyllnHyde on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:26:19 PM PDT

  •  My pick will be

    whomever Obama choice is =)

    At this point - I just want Obama elected - and I'll be happy with whomever he picks.

    There is no-one that I can imagine Obama to pick that would ever make me change my mind about voting for him.

    Right ????

    by sara seattle on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:37:01 PM PDT

    •  Right!!!

      I feel the same way.  

      by Kitty on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:45:40 PM PDT

  •  Wow, that eagle has a wide stance.

    I thought Cheney would have had that seal changed and his face put on it for all time to come with the title of the office being changed to "Cheney".

    by TDreamer on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:42:26 PM PDT

    •  and a marjuana leaf in his claws

      by Orbital Mind Control Lasers on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:36:47 PM PDT

      •  Cool! Are those bong rammers in his other claw?

        by TDreamer on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:47:03 PM PDT

  •  Agreed, but I really hope it isn't Hillary. n/t

    by philimus on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:02:22 PM PDT

•  Well,

  That is disturbing.

  I actually agreed with Terry McAwliffe.

  I feel so dirty... the dirt's not coming off!

  by droogie6655321 on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:26:51 PM PDT

  •  A blind squirrel gets a nut

    once in a while.

    I was going through the options this morning myself - Siebelus, Warner, Webb, Biden, etc. and Kaine made the most sense, especially since VA is about to get two D senators and Kaine is by law a one term governor.

    by calipygian on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:41:31 PM PDT

    •  Kaine makes the most sense ...

      ... because he underscores Obama's message of change.  Not only that but other than John Kerry and Al Gore, Tim Kaine is the only choice who has experience being the no. 2 guy.

      That said, Kaine has taken positions that would bother the party's base.  He supports mandatory parental notification for teenagers seeking an abortion and the Republican so-called "partial-birth" abortion bill.  He's also big on gun control, and opposes capital punishment.

      by jim bow on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:49:39 PM PDT

      •  Doesn't it say something about Kaine though...

        that he can win in Virginia as a gun control advocate?

        by DemBrock on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 05:54:41 PM PDT

    •  Warner and Webb are not options

      they've made that very clear.

      by OH 09 Dem on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:26:22 PM PDT

•  Well, I guess that

  puts Kaine out of the running.

  by MLDB on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:27:05 PM PDT

•  I think Hillary's always existed as an option

  but I never actually expected it to happen. I guess if you're one of those people still clinging to the possibility, then TMac's statement is a revelation to you. But he's only telling me what I already knew.

  by Ivey476 on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:27:21 PM PDT

•  I know no one wants to hear it

  I chose something else.  

  I think Hillary and her faction of supporters is still holding out for president.

  by publicv on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:27:45 PM PDT

  •  Only a few rabid crazy internet supporters

    are doing that.  Everyone else has moved on to supporting Obama.

    by smash artist on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:29:46 PM PDT

•  Kaine is a good pick but he has zero

  National security exprience which makes him a high risk choice. Obama is already risky to a lot of voters, I don't think we need to compound on that by adding Kaine to the ticket. I still think a OBAMA/CLINTON ticket guarantees us victory in the fall. And you can't make change if you don't win.

  by Voodoo king on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:28:30 PM PDT

  •  Forget it.

    she doesn't need it or want it.  

    by Lying eyes on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:49:17 PM PDT

  •  Disagree about Clinton, but think you are right

    ... on the national security issue. Maybe Wesley Clark could still be a viable veep. Or perhaps Sen. Reed instead. Also, as uncomfortable as I would be with ex-Sen. Nunn, he does have DoD credentials. If he would come out firmly against the DADT policy and fully support equal rights for the GLBT community, I might be OK with him.

    In the end, though, it's Obama's decision and I will support whoever he chooses ... even Hillary if it comes to that. Sigh.

    by philimus on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:09:38 PM PDT

•  Kaine would be a good choice

  by jj32 on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:29:32 PM PDT

  •  I agree, gets VA and provides white, southern,

    man for all other states to see.  Brings in exec experience and does not have any known negatives.

    by DefendOurConstitution on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:34:19 PM PDT

    •  Slightly too Catholic

      for my taste, in a potentially woman turning off kind of way.

      But I think the October suprise might end up being that bogus Illinois Senate vote on Partial Birth Abortion so maybe a guy slightly to the right on abortion might help.

      by calipygian on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:43:15 PM PDT

      •  He could fit. Saying personally against abortion,

        but it is a moral choice to be made by individuals/families, not by government. (unlike Hagel who has no wiggle room.)

        by DefendOurConstitution on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:52:58 PM PDT

        •  Same with the death penalty

          That became an issue when he ran for governor, and he handled it well, basically saying the same thing: he is personally opposed, but it would not interfere with him upholding state law.

          by jj32 on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:59:34 PM PDT

      •  Too Catholic? Was JFK too Catholic???

        As a liberal Catholic, don't lump us all together, PLEASE!!!  My church helped start the international Nestle boycott in the '70's and was extremely vocal on issues of social justice.

        by RethinkEverything on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:05:02 PM PDT

        •  And especially given how important

          Catholic swing-voters are going to be in PA, OH, MI, I don't think it is possible for Obama's choice to be too Catholic.

          by OH 09 Dem on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:29:49 PM PDT

•  He should pick Mini-bama

  by David Kroning on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:30:15 PM PDT

•  Terry who?

  Actually, for what might be the first time ever, I agree with him. Kaine is a governor, comes from a battleground state, and is Catholic.

  by Dump Terry McAuliffe on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:30:44 PM PDT

  •  There You Are

    At the mention of the name McAuliffe, I expect you to show up... just as reliably as the swallows returning to San Juan Capistrano in California each March.  :)

    by JekyllnHyde on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:36:02 PM PDT

    •  well

      when I notice that his(?) UID is 6527, that means he picked that name sometime prior to 2004...  which makes him pretty damn prescient if you ask me.  ;)

      by grasshopper on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:02:41 PM PDT

•  I connot stand T MAc

  But i think he could be right....they are very good friends as well...

  by jacmelforObama on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:31:41 PM PDT

•  Kaine will NOT be the choice...

  I wrote about this last night in the intro to my Top Comment diary. Kaine has lost whatever 'progressive mojo' he may have had. A centrist like McAuliffe WOULD want Kaine, I'm sure.

  by va dare on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:31:44 PM PDT

  •  Then who?

    by DefendOurConstitution on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:32:49 PM PDT

    •  This might sound crazy, but what about Ferraro?

      Choosing Ferraro would bring Clinton supporters on board.

      by wtu on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:35:50 PM PDT

      •  I just spilled my coffee all over keyboard LMAO!

        by DefendOurConstitution on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:37:05 PM PDT

        •  seriously

          I'm dying here.

          by zenbowl on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:49:51 PM PDT

      •  You're tight. That IS crazy. eom

        by greenskeeper on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:39:09 PM PDT

    •  Jack Reed? Military and progressive creds. n/t

      by mjd in florida on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:36:02 PM PDT

      •  Gives one Senate slot to Republicans though.

        Not what they're looking for and anyway, what state will Reed helkp Obama win?  none (other than RI, which is in the bag).

        by DefendOurConstitution on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:38:36 PM PDT

        •  My other thoughts are Biden or Hagel.

          I personally like our Florida Rep. Wexler and he and Obama look really great together.  (I became clueless when Webb pulled his name)

          by mjd in florida on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:42:29 PM PDT

          •  Of those I like Hagel better, but he's pro-life,

            a sticky problem for Obama and the Democrats as they hammer McDraft's anti-choice stance.  [It blurs the line between Obama and McCain on an issue that is near/dear to many. Plus/Minus? I don't know, but I think minus IMHO.]

            by DefendOurConstitution on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:45:43 PM PDT

            •  hagel is more than pro life

              he is a conservative who happens to agree with Obama on Iraq.

              With Hagel as VP you better get your rosary beads out and pray Obama sees it through his term...Hagel's policies would be no different than McCain's, other than the war.

              Fortunately, Obama's not an idiot. He won't put him on the ticket but he will keep him around for sure.

              by mdmslle on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:49:36 PM PDT

              •  By our arguments, sounds like Reed or Biden

                Progressive records with military or tons of foreign policy experience.

                by mjd in florida on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:52:16 PM PDT

              •  Hagel is Lieberman in reverse

                Lieberman is liberal on nearly every issue EXCEPT the war.

                Would Obama pick someone to the right of Lieberman? And would the delegates approve such a choice?

                by wtu on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:53:09 PM PDT

                •  Except Hagel has credibility and is respected.

                  Other than that they are almost exactly the same!

                  by DefendOurConstitution on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:54:20 PM PDT

          •  Biden is great but age is a problem

            He'll be 66 by Inauguration Day, I believe. It's important to think about who we might want to be the frontrunner at the end of (we hope) eight years. It would seem strange for to ask the voters in 2016 to go from a still relatively young 55-year-old outgoing President Obama to a nearly 74-year-old Biden.

            [And, as a full disclaimer, I admit that my favorite -- Sebelius -- has a similar problem; she's the same age as Sen. Clinton. Cabinet, maybe. VP, no.]

            Obama's VP nominee shouldn't be a kid, particularly with the RWCM pulling that "inexperience" crap out of their asses 24/7, but does need to be reasonably young -- certainly no more than 10 years older -- IMHO.

            by bwintx on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:02:39 PM PDT

            •  Sebelius is not too old,

              She is only 60, and she looks MUCH younger than that.  I think it is arbitrary to say that the VP shouldn't be any older than 56.  Unless you are at the extreme end (like McCain) I don't think this matters at all.

              by OH 09 Dem on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:35:48 PM PDT

      •  Jack Reed doesn't excite anyone.

        If Obama can't stand picking Clinton then I think his second best choice is Bayh. We win Indiana with Bayh on the ticket.

        by Voodoo king on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:40:16 PM PDT

    •  Well, my first pick is ...

      my original first pick for the primary - John Edwards. Barring that (miracle), I don't have a particular favorite - but I trust Obama to make his choice.

      by va dare on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:37:10 PM PDT

      •  Most Kossacks like Edwards, but he's connected to

        a losing ticket (Kerry 2004) and Americans hate voting for a loser.

        by DefendOurConstitution on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:39:59 PM PDT

        •  plus

          Edwards is too progressive/populist to appeal to the undecided middle/centrist.

          I'm a very left leaning moderate and even tho I like Edwards he's just too damn populist for me...i'd be sort of uncomfortable. Makes me feel like maybe we'll socialize everything. Some stuff (like health care) OK but i don't know... he'd scare off any moderates who were less leftist than me for sure.

          by mdmslle on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:43:37 PM PDT

          •  Wow!

            For a second there, I thought I'd strayed into the wrong website but I saw the orange and knew that I hadn't.

            The United Mine Workers endorsed Edwards and they're so very far, far from the left that Mother Jones weeps.

            by va dare on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:51:50 PM PDT

      •  Edwards is seen as tarnished,

        whether the stories are true or not.

        Maybe he'll be the next Attorney-General, though.

        by wtu on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:41:17 PM PDT

        •  bullshit.

          by GlowNZ on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:46:54 PM PDT

          •  Thank you... n/t

            by va dare on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:49:28 PM PDT

  •  I worked on Kaine's campaign

    when I lived in Roanoke.  Statewide Dems in VA have to be centrists, 'cuz the folks in SW VA vote with great vigor and enthusiasm, and they are blood red cultural conservatives.  If NoVA could work up more muscular voting patterns, things might be different...

    by jarhead5536 on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:36:24 PM PDT

    •  Sure and Webb proved that, didn't he? n/t

      by va dare on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:38:05 PM PDT

      •  yes he did

        webb is very centrist on cultural issues. as a native virginian, i don't give dems their flak for being near the center. the assembly is full of more full-fledged crazies than alabama.

        by nycwahoodem on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:44:27 PM PDT

  •  yeah and the 20% of undecided indie might too

    dont forget that obama's 46% is mostly comprised of democrats, progressives and the left leaning indies who have been paying attention.

    McCain's 40% is from Bush's  28% plus the 12% of people who think Obama is a muslim terrorist.

    That leaves 14% of Americans, most of whom have NOT yet tuned in fully and many of whom consider themselves independents or moderates.

    They will be the ones who decide this election.

    by mdmslle on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:37:28 PM PDT

    •  McCain's 40%?

      There just may be some overlap between the people dumb enough to support Bush and the people dumb enough to think BHO is Muslim...

      by amnesiaproletariat on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:58:51 PM PDT

  •  PS - in that diary, I quoted from...

    an article I read earlier at Daily Yonder:

       Kaine most likely killed any chances he had at being tapped as Obama’s vice-presidential running mate due to his unbending loyalty to perceived polluters and big business. He has also alienated wide swaths of independents. They are finding themselves fairly shocked at him for first embracing the bad driver penalties that affected only Virginians, then at his audacity to recommend higher gas taxes at a time when many working class people can barely afford to drive to and from their jobs.

       All in all, Kaine has strayed from one bad policy decision to another, alienating various bases of support without reaping much political capital or securing tangible results along the way. His victory over a traditional conservative Republican could be a playbook for Obama as he follows the same path of winning the nomination by being liberal and pursuing the general election by adopting moderate to conservative viewpoints.

       Or, Kaine could serve as a lesson for progressives to call out Obama early and often through liberal media and blog sources, to prevent their candidate from being "Kained" by corporate America and hemmed in by what they believe to be an uninspired political middle.

    Scary, isn't it?

    by va dare on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:40:37 PM PDT

    •  well

      if the daily yonder said it, it must be the word of god.

      by nycwahoodem on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:45:19 PM PDT

      •  Huh? The article reprinted there has...

        also been printed in regional newspapers. I gave the link so others could read it as well. Daily Yonder is a damned fine enterprise, partnering with the Center for Rural Strategies to give web-space for rural concerns. Why the dismissive tone?

        by va dare on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:48:40 PM PDT

•  It all boils down to

  what this campaign is going to be about.

  Before this trip, we were thinking national security would need to be sured up. I suspect Obama's team will wait to see what the polls say in a week or so. I think this week made it apparent that Obama can play on the world stage. It should even the difference out a little.

  If the campaign is going to be about the economy, then he must pick someone who can claim economic managerial chops (especially since Romney will likely be McCain's VP).

  I personally think this will ultimately be about the economy so he has the natural democratic advantage...if he puts someone on the ticket to sure that up, he's ok.

  by mdmslle on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:34:08 PM PDT

•  I am not so sure that McAuliffe

  was truly that uber Clinton

  I had a very nice talk with him during the caucus in my District -

  and he had some very nice comments about Obama - and as I at the time was a Clinton delegate - there was really no reason for him to be so generous in his comment about Obama.

  So who knows ----

  by sara seattle on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:34:33 PM PDT

•  Personally I think the chance for

  Hillary is over and done with; just my intuition. I do hope Obama does NOT select Evan Bayh as I think he is a lackluster candidate and campaigner and too young in contrast to Obama himself.  Am not sure just whom would be the best choice, time gives us benefits here. I think the veep should be announced at the Convention and not before, heaven knows, we need some suspense along the way.

  by Jbeaudill on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:35:23 PM PDT

•  Obama: Terry McAuliffe should STFU. nt

  by dennisl on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:36:40 PM PDT

•  Like Terry has such cred....

  isn't his endorsement like the kiss of death?

  by moose67 on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:39:28 PM PDT

  •  Terry "We love Fox News" McAuliffe?

    I wouldn't trust a word he says.

    by William Domingo on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 03:50:11 PM PDT

•  Kaine is good enough

  No one really votes for VP anyway, but picking the wrong one can do you harm (but even then, it may not be too bad...see Quayle '88).

  You would'nt want a VP who overshadows you or one who you can't get along with and I really think Clinton and Obama just don't see eye to eye (he probably doesn't trust her and she resents him...whatever). I won't be suprised if in the next week or 2 Clinton leaks out word that she is not interested in being VP.

  by Shinigami on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:40:50 PM PDT

•  TM, the architect of LOSING '00, '02, '04?

  I completely believe in people's right to say what they want and to assemble with whom they choose,

  and I WILL NEVER give a dime or second of time to ANYONE who uses that loser in way shape or form.

  That piece of shit has excelled at a few things:

  1. staying in charge while the fascists kicked our asses from the Atlantic to the Pacific,

  2. gettign paid real well while in charge,

  3. losing to fucking fascists.

  I can NOT think of a job for this piece of shit to do, cuz

  the people who work 7-11 at midnight and the people who clean the crappers at the fast food joints ALL do jobs which are important to the local community,

  and I wouldn't want to insult their hard work by saying

  'make terry work graveyard at 7-11 or clean the burger king shitter ... ha ha ha'

  rmm.

  by seabos84 on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:43:44 PM PDT

•  who cares what terry thinks?

  by GlowNZ on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:45:56 PM PDT

•  And McAuliffe should shut the fuck up! eom

  And take his whiny-ass Hillary supporters who are demanding a floor vote with him. Screw them all! We don't need 'em.

  by Slatersan on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:47:10 PM PDT

•  Obama should pick McAulifffe...

  as the recipient of an atomic wedgie.

  by teknofyl on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:50:54 PM PDT

•  It'll be Biden

  And he'll be a perfect attack dog.  

  by NeuBrew151 on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:52:49 PM PDT

  •  And you know this>..

    becasuse you used the magic eight ball?

    by GlowNZ on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:55:24 PM PDT

    •  At Least, He Tried! ;)

      

      by JekyllnHyde on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:01:06 PM PDT

  •  Too boring, He'ss have all sleeping before attack

    (then again, maybe putting all to sleep is a strategy.)

    by DefendOurConstitution on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:56:33 PM PDT

    •  lol

      by GlowNZ on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:57:08 PM PDT

•  McAuliffe knows

  that Kaine is the choice and he's jumping on the bandwagon.

  by cmpnwtr on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:56:09 PM PDT

  •  how would he know

    i doubt that obama confides in ole smiley,

    by GlowNZ on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:57:44 PM PDT

•  Well, there goes Kaine's rep

  If Terry McAuliffe thinks he's the best for VP<then there must be something wrong with him. After all, McAuliffe's judgment sucks. <br>Whatever he says, we should do the opposite.

  by MA Liberal on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:56:13 PM PDT

  •  The kiss of death almost like an attaboy from GWB

    by DefendOurConstitution on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:57:50 PM PDT

•  I was for Kaine before this ...

  ... but if Terry (Bag Man) McAuliffe is endorsing my governor for vice president, I have to think something serious is wrong with him. This must mean he's committed to the Big Business/anti-environment agenda or something.

  Only half-snark here. I don't trust McAuliffe as far as I could kick him. The man is slime.

  by philimus on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:56:29 PM PDT

  •  see calipygian above - "a blind squirrel ..."

    by DefendOurConstitution on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:58:55 PM PDT

•  Lastest cnn question of the day:

  Who do you think would do a better job at building stronger international ties?
  McCain 32% 24790
  Obama 68% 51786
  Total Votes: 76576

  by GlowNZ on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:05:41 PM PDT

  •  very nice nt

    by DemBrock on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 06:00:35 PM PDT

•  Kaine is my governor,

  but I just can't get that excited about him.

  by Nespolo on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:09:57 PM PDT

•  Obama: Terry should STFU

  Well, that is what I imagine he would say :)

  by LogicaLizE on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:14:43 PM PDT

•  Is this the same

  Terry McAuliffe that I swear I saw in the McCain BBQ video?

  by luckylizard on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:18:54 PM PDT

•  It is over, and more importantly,

  it never began.  I do very much like, and hope that he chooses, Tim Kaine.  I don't think Terry has any inside info on this though, it just makes a world of sense, and he (surprisingly) has enough sense to see it.

  by OH 09 Dem on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:23:12 PM PDT

•  Orbital Mind Control Lasers say...

  Obama has no business listening to Terry McAuliffe about ANYTHINg.

  by Orbital Mind Control Lasers on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:36:13 PM PDT

•  If Tim Kaine were to become vice president

  wouldn't the state get a Republican governor (chosen of the state legislature?)  Do we really want to give up a Democratic state governor?

  by orca43 on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 03:21:10 PM PDT