Obama more scared than Nancy to attend Netroots Nation?

    It's nice to see Fancy Nancy is now attending Netroots N, so that someone of some current political importance is attending. (If she shows up; remember what Pelosi did last year?) Still, what about You-Know-Who? Where the boo-hoo is Barack H.O.?
    (As per my previous diary, with poll showing Kossacks very much want him to attend)

    ...Back on the first July 4, when our ancestors were sweating to death at Valley Forge (maybe I've got the seasons wrong), did you hear THEM saying, "Ohhh, we're afraid to go to the big bad blog conference, we might get criticized?" Well o.k., NNation didn't exist, but they wouldn't have shied away if it did.
    (And anyway, Barack can do a better Sister Souljah if he attends NN and shouts, "You pinko pundits with Pentiums!", than if he stays away)

    I hear Mr. Obama likes faith-based initiatives these days. Well, let's see if he can keep some faith with the people who did so much for his campaign, and whom he expects to do more. I sure hope he has that cowboy hat, so he can wave it around onstage in Austin. . .

•  Happy Independence Day

      Let's see if Barack Washington Obama has the stuff to cross the Delaware and take on the pooties & Pentiums in Austin...

  by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:35:22 PM PDT

  •  The troll ratings are a little much

        Seriously. Have some decency? Thank you.

        And the poll is on my side, too.

    by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:43:28 PM PDT

    •  they're really not

      by KlausFraktal on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:44:25 PM PDT

      •  .

        

        by Lava20 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:46:46 PM PDT

        •  I love that picture.

          by gchaucer2 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:48:58 PM PDT

          •  .

            

            by Lava20 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:50:03 PM PDT

            •  I think you have a little crush. n/t

              by Indexer on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:51:42 PM PDT

              •  Little?

                Ummmmm....
                

                by Lava20 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:54:57 PM PDT

                •  Heh.

                  I was being circumspect.

                  by Indexer on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:56:32 PM PDT

                  •  LOL...

                    Don't even ask about my Chuck Todd and Keith Olbermann thing.
                    

                    by Lava20 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 03:04:44 PM PDT

              •  Pssst...

                It's Obama Girl...

                by Eternal Hope on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:56:03 PM PDT

                •  Okay.

                  I'm looking up at the thing flying over my head.

                  by Indexer on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:57:26 PM PDT

                •  I've got a crush on Obama!!!

                  

                  by Lava20 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:59:38 PM PDT

                  •  Feh! I'm better looking than he is!

                    "Grumble, grumble. Damn politicians get all the girls! F'n rock stars is all they are! Feh."

                    by Indexer on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 03:03:24 PM PDT

                    •  Yeah.

                      But can you do this?
                      

                      by Lava20 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 03:07:50 PM PDT

                      •  I could if I wanted to. n/t

                        by Indexer on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 03:14:30 PM PDT

      •  I think they are

            This is a good-faith diary designed to make Netroots Nation a better event. That is not trollery.

            And the polls are going even further in my favor at this point.

        by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:47:18 PM PDT

        •  He isn't scared of anything.

          Gee whiz!
          

          by Lava20 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:48:19 PM PDT

          •  The photos are wonderful

                I appreciate your posting them.

            by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:50:51 PM PDT

            •  .

              

              by Lava20 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:52:27 PM PDT

        •  The polls are going

          in your favor??? Are you running as a 4th party candidate?

          by gchaucer2 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:49:48 PM PDT

          •  Ha ha ha

                The poll at the top, of course...    

            by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:51:17 PM PDT

            •  Most people want him to come.

              And most people think you are being childish as well. The two concepts are not mutually exclusive.

              by Eternal Hope on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:52:07 PM PDT

              •  .

                

                by Lava20 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:53:08 PM PDT

          •  LOL

            

            by Lava20 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:51:35 PM PDT

            •  Yikes!!!!

              by gchaucer2 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:52:27 PM PDT

              •  Charisma overload!

                

                by Lava20 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:54:03 PM PDT

                •  Thanks, Lava

                  that reduced my blood pressure and elevated my libido.

                  by gchaucer2 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:54:51 PM PDT

                  •  You can count on me.

                    And Eternal Hope!
                    

                    by Lava20 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:56:56 PM PDT

        •  I think the diary

          ...is silly and a waste of space.  But the TR's are ridiculous and I'd sure like to hear an explanation from the people who dropped them.  Uprating.

          by BarbinMD on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:55:59 PM PDT

          •  Hey!!!!

            Waste of space?  What about the pics?
            LOL
            

            by Lava20 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:57:53 PM PDT

            •  Yeah

              I like the pictures.  :-)

              by BarbinMD on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 03:00:16 PM PDT

          •  Thanks!

                Sort of!

                :P

            by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:58:20 PM PDT

            •  Sorry. This diary sucks.

              I'm just trying to decorate.
              

              by Lava20 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 03:02:50 PM PDT

          •  I don't think he is.

            But I think he is having a bad day and is being childish. Obama hasn't even decided yet, and diaries like this one are not going to persuade him to come to Netroots Nation.

            by Eternal Hope on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:59:49 PM PDT

      •  much?

        After your use of the 'H.O.'?

        No. It's not quite enough, actually.

        by agent on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 03:23:23 PM PDT

        •  Yeesh

              Those are his initials, and not meant to evoke "ho". Of course.

          by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 03:35:24 PM PDT

    •  Troll ratings for anything remotely negative

      Seems to be S.O.P. 'round these parts.

      by Malum Prohibitum on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:54:38 PM PDT

    •  Just uprated

      not out of agreement -- but basic consideration and the rules.

      by gchaucer2 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:59:32 PM PDT

      •  Hey thanks!

        by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 03:02:08 PM PDT

        •  And I just rec'd your comment

          because, despite the fact that you are getting negative reviews, you keep a cheery presentation.  That is definitely worth something.

          by gchaucer2 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 03:05:19 PM PDT

      •  Yep

        Believe me, it pained me to give a rec on this.  ;-)

        by BarbinMD on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 03:02:20 PM PDT

        •  Me too, but

          I think hide ratings are given out too freely.  Next, I will learn not to be so insulting.

          by gchaucer2 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 03:04:18 PM PDT

    •  The poll is on your side

      In the same way that all push polls are on the side of the pollster.

      by Catte Nappe on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 05:04:43 PM PDT

    •  No, the histrionics are, though

      

      by second gen on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 05:04:53 PM PDT

  •  the diary is

    snide and irreverent, but that's David's way. His question remains legitimate: if Obama, along with just about everyone else seeking the Democratic nomination, made it to NN last year, why not this year?

    Uprated.

    by blueness on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:51:49 PM PDT

    •  Check out how many Senators are coming...

      ... why dontcha?  I don't see any on the schedule at all, and I don't think any are coming.  Why focus all the complaining on Obama?

      I'm tired of people acting as if the Executive Branch is the only one that matters.  That's the Cheney way.  One of the things I expect from an Obama presidency is a return to appropriate checks and balances between the various branches of government.

      by Land of Enchantment on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 08:08:48 PM PDT

  •  The Delaware?

    The guy has been in more states this year than you have in your life.

    by Yoshimi on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:53:11 PM PDT

    •  You really don't get the allusion?

      Jeebus, what are they teaching in place of American history these days...?

      Yeesh, Yosh, it's a figurative Delaware...

      by Uncle Cosmo on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 03:11:23 PM PDT

  •  Uprated because

    I didn't notice the TRs until I read Barb's comment.  I disagree with the entire diary -- but hide rating it does not deserve.

    by gchaucer2 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:58:47 PM PDT

  •  Uprated.

    Nothing trollworthy here.

    by fiddler crabby on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 03:12:42 PM PDT

  •  Go after Schumer, why don't you?

    He's throwing a big party on Nantucket (or some such) as a Senate fundraiser.  Check it out, there's not a single Senator on the NN agenda.  I'm told that's why Tom Udall couldn't come for the NM panel; Schumer's got him locked in.

    by Land of Enchantment on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 04:51:14 PM PDT

•  I think that Obama will be in Iraq

  during that time.

  by Drdemocrat on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:37:16 PM PDT

  •  Really?

        Ouch. Maybe he can reschedule...it's a little too "convenient" for him to avoid NN this way.

        Iraq will always be there.

    by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:38:09 PM PDT

    •  Are you for real?

      by BrighidG on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:38:39 PM PDT

      •  Has he signed a legal contract to be in Iraq

            on those days?

            Senators have some freedom of movement...

        by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:39:28 PM PDT

        •  Bugger off idiot.

          by gchaucer2 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:41:03 PM PDT

          •  Language

                This is getting nasty.

            by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:41:49 PM PDT

            •  Are you kidding?

              There has been a group who hasn't been exactly friendly to Obama.  Very few.  I wouldn't hold my breath.

              Also read his diary when he posted here before.

              Again, won't hold my breath.

              by Lava20 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:45:16 PM PDT

              •  .

                

                by Lava20 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:47:28 PM PDT

            •  Just reviewed my comments

              and am apologizing for the above.  I may think certain things, but refrain from entering them on my keyboard.  You've been a cheerful warrior here and didn't deserve that comment.  Even though I still think your argument is bullshite.

              by gchaucer2 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 03:17:45 PM PDT

              •  I dunno g, the more I read, the more I

                agree with your earlier comments, funny how that works.

                by second gen on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 04:30:35 PM PDT

            •  And you grow more stupid by the day.

              Your ignorance is downright tiresome.

              by Pager on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 03:31:36 PM PDT

        •  hey, my

          son is in Baghdad and he is a american citizen just like you...ya know. You are no more important than him. So why should he not get to talk to Senator Obama?

          I know you  have an inflated sense of yourself...but you aint shit.

          by Hawkjt on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:58:20 PM PDT

          •  He can talk to the Senator

                on some day with no conflict of schedule.

                If Obama can energize the netroots at NN, then they can campaign harder for him, and he can get the troops out if Iraq sooner.

                Best of luck to your son.

            by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:59:46 PM PDT

            •  I know you're not a troll.

              But you are being awfully childish in these threads. Obama has not even decided whether or not to come, and diaries like this are not going to persuade him to come. You're having a bad day -- that's OK, we all do. Maybe you just need to drop this, because diaries like this are not going to persuade anyone to come.

              by Eternal Hope on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 03:01:59 PM PDT

            •  I will make sure

              to let my son and his mates know that obama will re-schedule them for later...if they are still alive.

              by Hawkjt on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 03:02:47 PM PDT

        •  Come on. Give the man a break. What's

          more important, patting us all on the head or trying to build his creds overseas so he can get us out of this frigging war without getting a lot more people killed? We can be such whiney babies sometimes.

          by TheWesternSun on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 05:29:35 PM PDT

      •  Incredulous

        The self-indulgence and self-importance is just stunning.

        by GN1927 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 04:47:24 PM PDT

    •  Are you serious?

      You want him to change his trip to Iraq so he can pander to the netroots (who, as I recall, already gave him their full and enthusiastic support)?

      Jesus.

      by Angry Mouse on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:39:28 PM PDT

      •  .

        

        by Lava20 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:48:49 PM PDT

    •  You are really getting silly and outrageous.

      by icebergslim on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:51:36 PM PDT

•  This guy is a troll.

  For some reason he wants BO in the NN.
  He has already written a diary on this.

  by soms on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:38:44 PM PDT

  •  How is it trollery to want him to attend NN?

        I would respectfully request you to remove your troll ratings, as they are not appropriate. Thank you.

    by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:44:16 PM PDT

    •  Troll ratings

      on a tip jar are a longstanding way of showing support or the lack thereof for a diary.

      by DMiller on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:45:22 PM PDT

      •  .

        

        by Lava20 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:49:20 PM PDT

        •  Love The Pictures

          by rssrai on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 04:46:41 PM PDT

      •  That's a misuse of HRs

        whether or not the use is "longstanding." The FAQ issues very clear guidance here and in this linked entry:

        To Troll Rate something has exactly one meaning. When you Troll Rate something, as a trusted user, you are stating that the comment should be made invisible to all site users. You're saying that the comment is so bad -- so disruptive or damaging to the community -- that it isn't worth even a debate, but should be deleted from the discussion as being simply inflammatory, simply off-topic, or simply a lie.

        Remember that, because that is the only use of the troll rating. It is an editorial vote to delete a comment from the conversation.

        (snip)

        If you use troll ratings in any other way but to explicitly hide certain comments from the conversation so that they will not detract from the more substantive threads of the conversation, you're using it wrong.

        Chill, chilluns. Diarist may (or may not) be a spoiled brat with delusions of grandyour, but wanting to see BO at NN is not hide-ratable by any stretch of the imagination.

        by Uncle Cosmo on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 03:24:33 PM PDT

  •  He's not a troll.

    by Malum Prohibitum on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:55:23 PM PDT

  •  You are nuts

    David Boyle is SO NOT a troll.

    How can you call him a troll when you have only been here 2 minutes?

    You are late to the David Boyle diary style.

    It rocks mostly...

    just not tonight...

    ;)

    by navajo on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 08:20:05 PM PDT

•  Enough purity to choke a Puritan.

  by BA BarackUS on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:38:47 PM PDT

  •  Kaff!

        Choke!

    by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:40:50 PM PDT

•  Your diary and poll...

  both suck.

  by Apocalypse Please on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:39:24 PM PDT

  •  Thanks!

    by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:40:35 PM PDT

    •  You are more than welcome, sir.

      by Apocalypse Please on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:41:23 PM PDT

•  He is a candidate for the world's highest office.

  Maybe that's why he's not going? Get real.

  by Loli on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:39:26 PM PDT

  •  He came last year, when he was a candidate

        ...

    by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:39:56 PM PDT

    •  He is now an official nominee...

      by Loli on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:41:15 PM PDT

      •  not yet.... that's in August

        He's still presumptive.

        by dougymi on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:42:37 PM PDT

        •  Nice catch

          by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:44:32 PM PDT

        •  Right, that's not a technicality at all.

          by Loli on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:45:34 PM PDT

          •  why bother with the convention then? n.t.

            by dougymi on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:46:20 PM PDT

            •  Have you been to Denver in August? It's nice.

              by darthstar on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:47:04 PM PDT

    •  It was a year and a half before the election

      this year its 4 months away.  Genius!

      by dlh77489 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:41:25 PM PDT

•  He Doesn't Need to Go

  The Netroots Nation folks are already going to vote for him.  He needs to chase after undecided voters and those voters who might possibly move out of the McCain column between now and September.

  by bink on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:39:48 PM PDT

  •  Dropping your friends

        isn't always a good move.

    by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:40:23 PM PDT

    •  You aren't a friend

      so get over it.

      by gchaucer2 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:41:38 PM PDT

      •  bravo! It's as if some people feel they own

        Obama the way they act.  Hey, I gave that guy 150 bucks in the primaries...he should cancel Montana and drop by MY house on the 4th of July and have a beer with me.

        by darthstar on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:44:24 PM PDT

    •  Ungh

      I don't care if Barack Obama does not say a single word to me, about me or for me for the rest of the election cycle.

      I'm not the point ...

      Undecided voters, swing voters, wavering Republican voters are the point now.

      Democratic party activists, progressives, the grassroots and the Netroots are all already going to vote for Obama.

      by bink on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:42:16 PM PDT

•  What the fuck are

  you writing about?  Jeebus, bullshite is oozing out of the toobes.  He's not coming to my BBQ either and I am an internationally renowned genius.  

  by gchaucer2 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:40:28 PM PDT

  •  MMf

        Then why should Nancy come? Or anyone?

    by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:41:14 PM PDT

    •  I'm guessing you won't be there

      and if you are -- you will be the scowling lonely person with the other scowling lonely people.

      by gchaucer2 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:42:32 PM PDT

      •  Keep guessing...

        by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:48:43 PM PDT

      •  i'm pretty sure

        he was there last year.

        And I don't think he scowls much.

        by blueness on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 03:15:32 PM PDT

  •  And man of mystery?

    by Indexer on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:44:38 PM PDT

•  Obama's too smart to attend this thing..

  you folks are insane. Utterly, completely insane.

  I'm now applauding every time he says f-you to the puritans.

  You can't stand winning, can you?

  by joemcginnissjr on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:41:08 PM PDT

  •  wish i could recommend this comment 500x

    by vmm918 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 03:39:23 PM PDT

•   Strawberry Pineapple Chicken Bites

  INGREDIENTS

     * 2 tablespoons olive oil
     * 2 pounds skinless, boneless chicken breast halves - cut into small chunks
     * 1 (12 ounce) jar strawberry preserves
     * 1 (8 ounce) jar chili sauce
     * 1 (8 ounce) can pineapple chunks
     * 1 dash salt
     * 1 dash ground black pepper
     * toothpicks

  DIRECTIONS

    1. Heat the olive oil in a skillet over medium-high heat, and cook the chicken chunks 5 minutes, until browned on all sides. Reduce heat to medium, and pour in the preserves and chili sauce. Cook, stirring occasionally, 10 minutes.
    2. Mix the pineapple chunks into the skillet. Season with salt and pepper. Continue cooking 2 minutes, until heated through. Serve with toothpicks.

  by refinish69 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:41:16 PM PDT

  •  Yum

        Thx!

    by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:42:43 PM PDT

  •  Yikes, too sweet for me

    but can modify.  Thanks.

    by gchaucer2 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:43:16 PM PDT

•  He'll snub Netroots like he dropped his church

  He needed the money and support on his way up, and was happy to attend last year's YearlyKos.

  But now he's avoiding anything that can be accused of being "radical."

  He's onboard the Rightward Express, and he's left earlier supporters behind.

  by wtu on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:41:41 PM PDT

  •  Finally, a rational comment

        I salute you.

    by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:42:29 PM PDT

    •  Because you are two

      miserable peas in the same pod.

      by gchaucer2 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:43:41 PM PDT

      •  Insulting

            Please write some Canterbury Tales instead of flaming fellow Kossies. God bless you.

        by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:46:06 PM PDT

        •  I'm already living off

          my royalties so that I can waste my time responding to crap.

          by gchaucer2 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:47:15 PM PDT

          •  Funny

                I'll give you a rec for that.

            by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:48:05 PM PDT

          •  Still not worth it, Geoff. n/t

            by Indexer on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:48:26 PM PDT

    •  Ah...

      an illustration of the popular redefinition of "rational" to be "agreeing with me."  (The converse of "anyone who disagrees with me is irrational" is also always a big hit.)

      by profmatt on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:46:02 PM PDT

      •  It IS what Barack is doing.

        He's no Kucinich
        Or Gravel.
        This is what he does to win.
        There isn't any benefit to denying it.

        by Burned on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 03:15:09 PM PDT

  •  This is a troll, you know what to do.

    by icebergslim on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:50:22 PM PDT

    •  I think trolling is not appropriate here

          I wonder myself if Obama should have left his church, or not. That's a good-faith issue (as are other issues that commenter mentions), even if we don't like the fact that Obama is being criticized...

      by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:53:42 PM PDT

      •  rightwing express....is that appropriate?

        tr stays.

        by icebergslim on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:58:35 PM PDT

        •  RightWARD express

              Not as bad...

          by David Boyle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 03:03:10 PM PDT

          •  ALL Dem. nominees move rightward, to the center,

            just as even GW Bush moved leftward, to the center
            (remember "humble foreign policy," "no nation-building," etc.)

            by w