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The day before the inauguration, news came that Sam Adams, Mayor Elect of Portland, engaged in a sexual relationship with a young man named Beau Breedlove, who was all of 17. What a headline to wake up to with the Inaugural paper. There are now calls from the Oregonian and the Tribune for Sam Adams to resign.

Here is my letter to Sam Adams:

Dear Sam Adams:

Really?

There are people saying that you should resign (The Oregonian and the Tribune) because of the stupid set of lies you put out about your relationship with Mr. B.
I don't think you should resign. You have worked for 10 years to get to this point. You have served the City of Portland with energy, enthuisam and creativity. You lived in a working class neighborhood; you addressed the concerns of working class and middle class residents.

But really, Sam? There wasn't someone, anyone, in the City of Portland and environs wasn't at least 21 and over? Or closer to your age (43?) Did you not observe what happened with Neil Goldschmidt, and how his lack of control basicly destroyed any federal aspirations, and cut down the statewide good he could have for Oregonians? Did you not see that the working clas Portlanders who love you and supported you - white, black and Asian- would easily and completely brushed off the relationship- had you just told the damn truth.

Because, really that is what this is really what it about. It's about transparency and manipulation and judgment, not about who you date ( because, you know what, people voted for you, not your orientation!) If it is true that you did not fool about until Mr. B was 18, then no worries. But now,  by lying, people are truly worried that you may prosecuted by Randy for statutory rape. And boy, is that needed in the Gay/Lesbian community of Oregon, who already got their butt kicked after the repeal of marriage rights! Wonderful!

Damn and blast. Damn!

I think you can do wonderful things for Portland. I will fight the hypocritical calls for your resignation,but they are by your political enemies who want to use Portland as a developers piggy bank. I love you and remember the good things you have done for N/NE PDX.

But by god, you just shot yourself in the foot with this.

Damn!

Originally posted to ems97007 on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 10:39 AM PST.

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  •  Tips (2+ / 0-)
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    kevinpdx, rationalcauses

    for dorky politicians.

    Damn!

    •  Sorry, no tips. (3+ / 0-)
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      Vico, JayBat, capelza

      I can't, in good conscience, tip this queer-baiting screed.

      •  Queer baiting? (2+ / 0-)

        There is nothing queer baiting about this- at all.  When the truth about Neil Goldscmhidt came out, it destroyed him, his wife and quite a few of his compatriots. The Governor was nearly destroyed.

        Sam was elected because people genuinely, honestly, truly loved him and respected the man - smart, capable, honest. His orientation never came into play, ever, during the campaign at all- and why would it? Everyone knew he was gay.

        The question is that of lying and manipulation- and Sam has real, true enemies, people who want to use Portland as a developer's piggy bank, and screw every body else. Shit like this make it very easy for these people to mount a campaign to dismiss Sam's wonderful ideas about how to develop this city for all classes and ethnic groups, for everyone loves this area and calls it home.

        I have a right to my disappointment and anger. I contributed money to his campaign and bought a ticket to his ball. I really had such high hopes for him- Governor, Senator, President perhaps?- and this is the stinker.

        •  More queer-baiting. (2+ / 0-)
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          JayBat, capelza

          You keep trying to forge that gay=pedophile link.

          Neil Goldschmidt had an illegal affair with a 14 year old girl while he was married to another woman.

          Sam Adams had a legal sexual encounter with another consenting adult, neither of whom were married.

    •  Also, your facts are contradicted by the link. (2+ / 0-)
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      JayBat, Lasgalen Lothir

      They met when Breedlove was 17, but there was no sex until he was 18.

      As we are talking about a consensual relationship between two unmarried adults, what's your beef?

      6/24/05: Charlie the Tuna Creator Dies En lieu of flowers, please bring mayonnaise, chopped celery and paprika.

      by LunkHead on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 11:08:25 AM PST

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      •  That he lied. (1+ / 0-)
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        rationalcauses

        And that Sam Adams has very real enemies amongst the business set who can use this to destroy what very real good he can do.

        That a commissioner may now spend times investigating this, and may charge the Mayor with a misdemeanor.

        That we all had this nonsense with Goldschmidt.

        That's the beef.

        •  What misdemeanor? (2+ / 0-)
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          JayBat, capelza

          It's not illegal to lie to the press.

          The commissioner's just looking to make political hay.  That's what politicians do.  But there's no crime here.  Not even lying to the press.

          I know, shocking, isn't it?  The press would have you believe that's an impeachable offense, but it's not.

          And unless either Adams or Breedlove say the sexual encounter occurred before Breedlove turned 18, the state's never going to be able to prove--by any measure whatsoever--any kind of statutory rape charges.

          •  Except that Commisioner Randy.... (1+ / 0-)
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            rationalcauses

            was Sad Adams biggest and earliest supporter for Mayor, and endorse and campaigned for him!

            And Mayor Adams cannot be impeached (put on trial)- he has to be recalled first.

            So, before you comment any further, it would be great if you read up on Oregon politics. This is why I specifically put up PDX,Oregon in the headline.

            •  If you only want Portlanders to post... (3+ / 0-)
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              JayBat, capelza, esquimaux

              ...then post this on a Portland-only blog.

              You posted this on the DailyKos, for all the world to see and comment on.

              Furthermore, who's to say I haven't read up on Oregon politics?  That's quite a presumption you're making.  It seems like maybe you're out of gas with your argument and just flailing around.  Basically, that's an ad hominem attack--claiming your interlocutors are ignorant--a tactic often used when a person's been completely backed rhetorically into a corner.

        •  Yeah, the Goldschmidt reference (2+ / 0-)
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          Is baffling.  I don't see the connection.  Why are you bringing that up?

          I finally put in a signature!

          by Boris Godunov on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 12:01:00 PM PST

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  •  breedlove? seriously, thats such a porn name. nt (0+ / 0-)

    I have as much authority as the Pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it.

    by freaktown on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 10:41:29 AM PST

  •  Why not all the sturm-and-dross about... (2+ / 0-)
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    Vico, JayBat

    ...current Los Angeles Mayor Antonion Villaraigosa's affair--while he was married--with the Telemundo reporter covering the L.A. City Hall political beat?

    There's a double-standard here in the criticism of Portland Mayor Sam Adams.

    •  ? (1+ / 0-)
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      rationalcauses

      who says there wasn't a reaction to Villaraigosa?

    •  I don't live in LA eom (1+ / 0-)
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      rationalcauses
      •  ...so? (0+ / 0-)

        It's one of the largest cities in the United States, much, much bigger than Portland.

        And yet this Portland mayor's legal tryst has generated more hysteria than Villaraigosa's affair.

        The salient difference?  Villaraigosa's straight.

        •  I don't believe that (2+ / 0-)
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          lorzie, rationalcauses

          in LA, it was a HUGE deal and the Villaraigosa affair made national news.

          •  And people here on the Daily Kos were... (0+ / 0-)

            ...castigating him, gnashing their teeth, calling on him to resign as mayor, saying he's set straight politics back for decades, and posting letters expressing their "disappointment" in him.

            Oh, wait.  No.

            None of that happened.

            •  It hasn't happened for Adams (2+ / 0-)
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              Buffalo Girl, rationalcauses

              Except for ONE diarist.  That's hardly indicative of a trend.

              I finally put in a signature!

              by Boris Godunov on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 11:25:33 AM PST

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              •  Fourth diary. (0+ / 0-)

                This is, at least, the fourth diary on this in less than 36 hours.

                "Get your facts straight", as you told someone else.

                •  Even so, the point stands (1+ / 0-)
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                  rationalcauses

                  Even 4 diaries, spaced over 3 days, in which only ONE calls for a resignation, which don't make the Rec list, and in which the vast majority of commenters don't berate Adams or call on him to resign... that's something to get worked up over?  It's pretty clear that to most people this isn't that big of a deal.  So the kvetching about it compared to the L.A. Mayor just doesn't hold any water.

                  I finally put in a signature!

                  by Boris Godunov on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 11:44:48 AM PST

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                  •  Uhhh... yeah, it does. (0+ / 0-)

                    The point is about the hypocrisy.  Not one of the people posting these histrionic diaries said boo about Mayor Villaraigosa's affair, nor did they say boo about Mayor Gavin Newsom's affair.  Both lied to the press about it, and according to the people posting these diaries, "that's the important issue".

                    I'm merely underscoring their rather significant silence about other--heterosexual--mayors who've lied recently in similar circumstances, in order to demonstrate these posters' double standards.

                    •  Ahem (1+ / 0-)
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                      rationalcauses

                      http://www.dailykos.com/...

                      Facts straight again...

                      I finally put in a signature!

                      by Boris Godunov on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 11:52:49 AM PST

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                      •  Not by any of these diarists. (0+ / 0-)

                        Again, no points for missing my point.

                        •  Oh so it has to be these specific ones? (1+ / 0-)
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                          rationalcauses

                          Come on, that's just stupid.  Besides, you originally castigated the community, not them, so you're shifting goal posts.

                          How do you know they were even around on DKos then?

                          Besides, it's pretty obvious why people would take more of an interest and therefore post about issues in their own community as opposed to another.  It makes total sense they'd choose to write about such a thing as opposed to the other events.  So there's no evidence to read these diaries as some sort of attack on gay people.  That's leaping to a hugely unwarranted conclusion.  If you can find diaries/posts by them supporting such figures in these such moments, then you'd have a point.

                          I also feel betrayed by Adams' lying, just not enough to think he should quit.  Does that mean I'm invoking a "heterosexist" double standard?  No, I just don't like being lied to...

                          I finally put in a signature!

                          by Boris Godunov on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 11:59:14 AM PST

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                          •  Yes, it has to be these specific ones. (0+ / 0-)

                            No, I didn't originally castigate "the community"--I specifically called out these specific posters.

                            Do try to follow along.

                          •  No, you did (1+ / 0-)
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                            rationalcauses

                            http://www.dailykos.com/...

                            That is clearly not about "these specific" ones, you're referencing the community as a whole.

                            Wow, this has gone into silly land...

                            I finally put in a signature!

                            by Boris Godunov on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 12:04:59 PM PST

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                          •  You've gone into silly land... (1+ / 0-)
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                            capelza

                            That was a response to something else entirely.  The parent post was specifically about these posters, and by extension, so are the responses.

                            I'm sorry this isn't clear to you, but I'm sure it's clear to a reasonable reader who's actually paying attention.

                          •  Preconditions to Outrage (1+ / 0-)
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                            rationalcauses

                            Ok, so you can't discern the the thread of your own comments.  Fair enough, foolish of me to expect it.

                            I'm still waiting to hear why someone is somehow shown to be anti-gay because they express outrage over one incident but not another.  Is the rule that one must have at least 1 expression of outrage about a hetero's similar actions first?  Or more?  Maybe a sliding scale based on degree of infraction vs. level of outrage expressed?

                            What's the statute of limitations on outrage expression?  Does it have to be within the last 3-5 years?

                            Is there a minimum age that allows one a free pass?  Like, if I were 18, would it be OK to express outrage over a gay man's actions without prior outrage, since I would be newly adult?

                            And does it have to be expressed here specifically on DKos, or could one have done so on another website?  Or verbally to someone, and witnesses can be provided for verification?

                            Ok, ok...  I think I've demonstrated enough how absurd you're being.  Requiring previous expressions of outrage over similar conduct is just stupid.  Pointing to the lack of those as "evidence" of some anti-gay agenda even more so.  People express outrage over things that hit close to home, and since the diarist lives in Portland, it's entirely understandable and reasonable that this would be his only expression about such a situation.

                            Of course, even if I were to accept your silly Preconditions to Outrage, it wouldn't change the fact that it's utterly irrelevant to the topic and just an attempt to change the subject.  Either Adams' did wrong and deserves to be excorciated or he didn't.  The past history of the diarist (which in all respects I can see is solid) is a total tangent.

                            I finally put in a signature!

                            by Boris Godunov on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 02:59:49 PM PST

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                          •  Notice you ignored the other points, too n/t (1+ / 0-)
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                            rationalcauses

                            I finally put in a signature!

                            by Boris Godunov on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 12:05:36 PM PST

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                          •  I didn't respond to the rest... (0+ / 0-)

                            ...because there's really no point.  One thing I learned long ago is never to correct someone's perception that I think they're heterosexist or homophobic.

                    •  Re. Newsom (1+ / 0-)
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                      rationalcauses

                      You're joking, right?  I remember there were countless diaries about that one, far more than 4.  

                      I finally put in a signature!

                      by Boris Godunov on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 11:53:54 AM PST

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            •  Also (2+ / 0-)
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              Buffalo Girl, rationalcauses

              The diarist didn't call on Adams to resign.

              I finally put in a signature!

              by Boris Godunov on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 11:26:23 AM PST

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        •  Frankly, I really don't care about LA. (1+ / 0-)
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          rationalcauses

          Seriously, I don't. LA may be bigger, but Portland is hell of lot smarter and better. PDX has become an example of experiments in sustainable, smart growth and smart industry living. Leading that charge is Sam Adams, who has worked like a dog for these past 10-12 years to help PDX be a place you want live in.

          I care because I contributed to the campaign and met the guy a number of times at coffee shops and events for transitional youth ( what I spent the majority of my Americorps time)and know that potential he has.

          •  Missing my point about your hypocrisy. (0+ / 0-)

            Nice dodge there, but you're sidestepping and therefore inadvertently proving my point.  You and everyone else who's getting the vapors over this adhere to a double standard.  Villaraigosa's affair = unimportant.  Even though his involved a member of the media who was covering his office, making it conflict of interest on both parts and therefore part of the public interest.  Even though he was married at the time.  Even though he lied about it, which, according to you, is the important issue with Mayor Adams (because the bit about the partner being 17 got shot down).

            Instead, you're hysterical over legal sexual encounter between two consenting adults that was never any of your business to begin with.

            There's only one salient difference.  Villaraigosa's straight, and Adams is queer.  Even though the first one involved a greater breach of the public's trust, you don't care about that.

            •  Spare me. (1+ / 0-)
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              rationalcauses

              What's obvious is that you don't know much about Oregon politics, so why don't look up Neil Goldschmidt, have a read, and then reread the link to Willamette Week, and try to understand the anger and confusion.

              •  I did. (0+ / 0-)

                I did look him up.

                There's a vast, vast gulf between what his criminal acts and between Adams's legal sexual encounters.

                The fact that you're trying to forge a connection between the two shows your true colors.

                This entire diary, and all of your posts, are attempts to paint Mayor Adams as a pedophile.  Hence connecting him twice to Neil Goldschmidt, who had sex with a 14 year old girl.  Hence your uncorrected, and misleading, claim in your diary that Breedlove was 17 at the time of the sexual encounter, when he was 18.

                Spare you?  No.  Spare the rest of us.

            •  That's not the issue (1+ / 0-)
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              rationalcauses

              Villaraigosa's straight, and Adams is queer.

              Actually, it's not a gay issue, but you can just keep going ahead and making it one.  

              To me, the issue is public figures using their influence with the press to cover up their wrong-doings.  

              •  Lasgalen Lothir really does not get that. (2+ / 0-)
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                lorzie, rationalcauses

                It's the spectre of corruption and cover up that makes people mad- not Adams orientation, which people have know about for at least 12 years, if not longer, since Adams grew up here and is pioneer stock.

                All LL sees is gay, scandal, politics and then does not see the context.

          •  So smart... (0+ / 0-)

            What is so smart about the incestuous relationship between Portland's city government and the local press?  

            I've lived in both LA and Portland, and to be honest, Sam Adams has helped shape Portland into a place latte-swilling yuppies want to live in.  

            And if he cares so much about sustainability, then why did he appoint a woman with no experience in that field to head his city sustainability department?  Could it be that she was the Portland Mercury reporter who had been working on the Breedlove story for the past two years?

            Smarter and better, indeed.

            •  I confess, I like him (2+ / 0-)
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              lorzie, rationalcauses

              But point taken on gentrification(although you can also thank Vera Katz)- and yes, point taken on the appointment- very stupid sauce.

              This is part of the reason I am so disappointed and angry.

              I gotta defend my city, though.

              •  I still have a soft spot for PDX (0+ / 0-)

                I recently moved away after 21 years, because the climate is too disagreeable to me.  Many things about Portland irritate the heck out of me, but it was part of my life for so long.  

                I didn't vote for Sam Adams -- I voted in my new "red state turned blue."

                •  *hugs* (0+ / 0-)

                  I hope in your red-blue-purple state you have a great job and warm neighbors! I understand the need sometimes to move away from the West Coast, period...I still sometime miss Wisconsin (where I went to school, of all places)...just can't deal with snow all the time in the winter!

  •  Misleading Claims. (3+ / 0-)
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    Vico, JayBat, Hardhat Democrat

    The first sentence of this diary is grossly misleading:

    <q>The day before the inauguration, news came that Sam Adams, Mayor Elect of Portland, engaged in a sexual relationship with a young man named Beau Breedlove, who was all of 17.</q>

    Both parties say the sexual relationship occurred with Breedlove was 18, not 17.  Unless you were involved in a threesome with them, you have no specific knowledge otherwise.

    This false claim makes me wonder about your motives posting this diary in the first place.  It makes me wonder if you're attempting to forge an age-old homophobic suggestion that gay men are pedophiles.

    As far as anyone knows, this was a sexual relationship between two consenting adults.  Neither party was married to anyone else.  I fail to see how this is the public's business in any way, shape, or form.

  •  What a condescending letter (3+ / 0-)

    and a terrible diary. First, you should correct the factual error in the first graph. And even though you claim in graph three that it's about lying and manipulation, you spend most of graphs one and two tsk-tsking over what you obviously consider an age-inappropriate relationship. Which you have no standing to do.

    Portlanders will work through this just fine if others would just stop spreading false rumors about the story.

    "The speaking in a perpetual hyperbole is comely in nothing but in love." --Francis Bacon

    by Vico on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 10:56:50 AM PST

  •  erk (4+ / 0-)
    1. the dude was 18
    1. neither were married

    The ONLY two issues that are left about the relationship itself are the large age difference, and the homosexual aspect.

    And given the prurient interest in those things - which is none of the public's business - I absolutely understand why he lied about it.

    So not only do I not care, I actually believe this was the best way to handle it.  And it only reduces my already low respect in the so-called "alternative" weekly, which really only serves to underscore the worst elements of alternative society.  Progressive they are not.

  •  The lying sucks (3+ / 0-)

    He shouldn't have lied.  Otherwise, I wouldn't have cared two whits about it.

    I don't think it's worth him resigning over, of course (provided it's correct that no law was broken).  But it will hurt public trust in his leadership, for sure.

    Why it was even an issue to begin with is beyond me.  Two adults consenting to sex isn't exactly shocking...

    I finally put in a signature!

    by Boris Godunov on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 11:19:40 AM PST

  •  Prudish Oregon (2+ / 0-)
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    For such a progressive state (in some places, it's red in others) or certainly city, there's a lot of pearl clutching when it comes to sex.

    It drives me nuts.   Perhaps that's why Lon Mabon got as far as he did.

    I had a huge argument with my one kid.  He came home as a junior in High School telling me his soccer coach was a pedophiliac.   One teacher had told him this and he quite believed it.

    Now the real story was a 32 y/o coach had illeagal sex with a 16 y/o whom he coached.   It was discovered and the man killed himself.  His wife was devastated.   Small town, I know all these people.   My kid was insisting he was indeed a pedophiliac.   It took me a very long time to explain to him that while what the man had done was wrong, illegal, wrong and stupid it was not pedophilia.  

    The same insanity has made a sex offender for life of a then 20 year old girl who got pregnant by her nearly 18 y/o boyfriend.   The boy's parents got her charged.  She can only see her own child with supervision now and is a registered sex offender.

    This in "sensible" Oregon.

  •  No Idea What the Problem Was (3+ / 0-)
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    JayBat, capelza, Lasgalen Lothir

    Two adults go on a couple of dates, maybe something sexual happened -- I prefer not to know, actually -- and then they ended up not seeing each other anymore.

    As far as the age difference is concerned, I believe that Hugh Hefner's current pair of identical blonde girlfriends are around a hundred years younger than him.

    You can call me "Lord Bink Forester de Rothschild."

    by bink on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 11:22:36 AM PST

    •  Hefner is gross. (1+ / 0-)
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      rationalcauses

      There's no comparison- Sam Adams is smart, capable and talented; and has given of himself to the people of Oregon. Hefner is a woman chaser and pornographer.

      It's not the dating- it's the bad judgement and lying following from that. And he did this after Goldschmidt.

      •  More queerbaiting. (1+ / 0-)
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        JayBat

        Goldschmidt had an affair with an illegal 14 year old girl while he was married to another woman.  It was a criminal act.

        Adams had a sexual encounter with another consenting adult, neither of whom were married.

        By continuing to post that connection, you're confirming what I said upthread: this is all about your attempt to paint Mayor Adams as a pedophile, and to reinforce an age-old, homophobic stereotype about gay men.

      •  Connecting an adult relationship (2+ / 0-)
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        collegekid318, Lasgalen Lothir
        to what Goldschmidt did is ridiculous.

        And really, at this point I can see why Adams lied.   Look at the responses from "progressives' in regards to two adults having sex.

        •  Yeah, no doubt. (1+ / 0-)
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          capelza

          Of course, I learned long ago that so-called "progressives" have the capacity to be even more homophobic than conservatives.

          When I was in my 20s, it was a great disappointment to me.  Now that I'm in my late 40s, I've come to expect it from them.

  •  Oh, I missed this gem: (1+ / 0-)
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    capelza

    But really, Sam? There wasn't someone, anyone, in the City of Portland and environs wasn't at least 21 and over?

    ems97007, are you laboring under the misconception that people are not legally adults until they're "at least 21"?

    It seems like you're attempting to infantalize Mr. Breedlove and, by extension, all adults between 18 and 20.  This is a frustrating trend I've noticed in our society, especially as the Baby Boomer generation goes kicking and screaming into old age.

  •  as a Portland resident... (2+ / 0-)
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    Hardhat Democrat, lorzie

    I have other reasons not to like Sam Adams. This is not even close to being "on the radar".

    He'd like to turn Hawthorne into the Southeast version of the Pearl. I don't even like the Pearl version of the Pearl! Those are slums of the future...although they're pretty spendy accomodations now.

    I could go on but my point is already made. There are important things going on in town and this "news" is only a distraction.

    Yes, there are some people who will flip out but it's wrong to condemn the Mayor based on how we think others will react.

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