Welcome to Forays Into Freeperville, a public service of yours truly, Eclectablog, where I venture into the land of the Free Republic on your behalf. That's right, I go there so YOU don't have to.
Today, I thought I'd see what the 'Birthers' are up to. 'Birthers' are those wingnuts who are still convinced that President Obama was not born in the USA. These comments are in response an editorial published in The Victoria Advocate (Victoria, Texas, of course) called "Hoping Obama's place of birth truly was in Hawaii". In it, the author, a government teacher at Memorial High School, claims that, because Barack Obama only released the "Short Form" version of his birth certificate rather than the "Long Form", it seems pretty obvious that he is a ferner.
A snippet from the editorial:
Candidate Obama's own Web site, fightthesmears.com, posted a "Certification of Live Birth," which, according to the Web site, proves that Obama is in fact a natural born U.S. citizen. What the Web site won't tell you, however, is that a "Certification of Live Birth" is not a birth certificate, and that at the time, the state of Hawaii allowed foreign-born children of U.S. citizens (Stanley Ann Dunham) to have their births registered with this document based on a statement of only one relative. The obvious question must be asked: If Obama has an original "long form" birth certificate issued on the day of his birth by the state of Hawaii, why would he also have a "Certification of Live Birth"? It would not be necessary. Critics have called upon President Obama to just give the state of Hawaii his permission to release his original "long form" birth certificate. The "long form" birth certificate would include all the pertinent information about his birth: name of the hospital, name and signature of the attending physician and a seal of the Hawaiian Health Department. This simple action by President Obama would immediately end all speculation about his citizenship and the reasons for the various lawsuits. Instead, President Obama is spending time and money hiring lawyers to fight these lawsuits. Why?
Why?, indeed. Clearly this is evidence that our president is, in fact, a ferner. Well, at least that what the mouth-breathers think.
There are two common elements in nearly every comment section in Freeperville. The first is that "Support The President" (you remember those bumperstickers, right?) actually means "Support Republican Presidents". Showing respect for DemocRAT presidents is not required (or even allowed so far as I can tell.) The second element is the use of Clever!TM. Clever!TM is where they take a name and change it oh-so-very-slightly to make it derogatory. Like "DemocRAT Party", "Obambi", or calling President Obama "Zero" 'cause his "O" logo looks like the numeral zero.
So, with that explanation, let's journey into the land of knuckle-draggers and take a Foray Into Freeperville.
First, we have this little bit of President disrespectin' from Blado:
Personally I suspect the little bastard’s father was really Frank Marshal Davis, and that’s why he’s hiding the evidence.
Ah, yes. President "little bastard". Or perhaps that's "Commander-in-Chief Little Bastard".
From atomicweeder :
The reason that Obama is hiding his birth certificate is that he is son of Frank Marshall Davis.
In case, like me, you have no idea who Frank Marshall Davis is, according to the WikiGods, he is "an American journalist, poet and political and labor movement activist. In 1950 he was investigated by the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) for comments he made in columns written for the newspaper Honolulu Record, as well as other activities that the HUAC alleged were connected to the Communist Party USA." So what atomicweeder is saying is that the president's daddy was a commie! C'mon, atomic weeder, don'tchyoo know that every Freeper knows that the president's daddy was a Socialist?! Geezo, get with the program, Bubba.
In response to the editorialist's comment "...because the price of being right about the constitutional requirements to be president not being met by the current occupant of the Oval Office is too disturbing to be imagined", EyeGuy has this to say:
No it isn’t. Not in the least.
Rolling back Marxism, attacks on productive Americans, open racism and machinations designed to complete overturn 230 years of American progress should never be considered "disturbing".
Let the pigs riot. We know how to hit back. Hard.
No, dude, what is "disturbing" is that you appear to be threatening violence against the majority of Americans who voted for our president and the ~70% who now support him.
Commenting on the left and our hatred of the Constitution of the United States of American (aka "optional guidelines" to the former Bush administration), AndyTheBear has this say:
To the committed left, the Constitution is a cheap whore. They use her frequently for their own ends, and care nothing for what she really is about. Her own will and intentions are to be totally subserviant to their own will and intentions.
For the Left, protections for political speech are not there to protect people critizing left wing idealogy--for they call such "hate speech". Rather for the Left such protections are to protect the tax payer funding of vulgar art which is hateful to those they dislike.
Why should we expect that they treat her with respect now?
Yeah, that Constitution, she's just a cheap whore alright. What she really should be used for is to protect virulent racists' right to spew forth vitriolic venom that exhorts their fellow countrymen to kill blacks, gays and Muslims. That is the proper use of the Constitution, right, Andy?
Polarik writes:
What "IF?" We ARE in a constitutional crisis. Which part of "Forgery" does Peter NOT understand?
Polarik is disagreeing with the editorial writer. Instead of believing that the "Short Form" isn't the real birth certificate, he's suggesting that it is a forgery. In this wingnut scenario, over 40 years ago, a young woman in Hawaii took the precaution that her son might one day wish to run for president and had a birth certificate forged so that, years later, it could be revealed as "proof". Either that or he thinks that an entire Hawaiian hospital's staff has been complicit in fooling the entire world by creating and presenting a modern day forgery and not one of them has leaked the TRUTH!!!
According to The Brush:
...we could demand the resignation of every judge who refused to allow these lawsuits any merit for refusing to abide by their oath to uphold the Constitution.
It would also mean that Barry would be asked to leave the White House and he would be afforded none of the perks of a former president.
Then again, Obama has said that he is a Christian...despite his refusal to personally help "the least of these" through his own donations to charity and his support for abortion at any time for any reason.... he wouldn't lie.
Of course any money he has spent over the $10.00 required to make a copy of his birth certificate available would illustrate his total disregard for "the least of these" who donated $1.00 and $2.00 to his campaign...
If President Obama lied to get into office, the truth will come out. The stain he will have left on the presidency may not.
I think The Brush is lost in the shrubberies, personally. Usually, if I ponder long enough, I can kinda sorta figure out what they are trying to say but this one? No gots.
Oh, and "Barry"? Clever!TM That would have been like us calling President Bush "Georgie". The Freepers would have been apoplectic about that 'cause that woulda been disrespectin' the president, don'tchya know.
MHGinTN goes off the deep end:
Given that very conflict - between the potus and the military - do you think the CIA would do their best to produce the forgery the affirmative action potus figure would need to stop the conflict between orders and authority? I don’t even doubt it, given the specious video they produced to verify a lie to help sinkEmperor Clinton avoid dealing directly with terrorists who downed a 747 jet off the East Coast.
"Affirmative Action POTUS figure"! Awesome! Wonder what ole MHG thinks of Michael Steele? I'm not exactly sure what MGH is talking about here but in his conspiracy theorist fog he appears to be suggesting that the CIA forged a video to allow President Clinton to help his terrorist buddies. Or something.
tioga has proof of the Frank Marshall Davis baby daddyhood:
CLICK HERE FOR PHOTOGRAPHIC PROOF
Marshall is on top, Obama on bottom .....which one is the father......
See? You can tell by the way he's holding his head that Commie Davis is the baby president daddy. So obvious. [backs away from tioga]
Many Freepers are very worried about the prospect that Joe Biden would become president. A Marxist, Socialist, tax-and-spending, thieving, lying, affirmative action president isn't as scary to them as the idea that Joe Biden might start inhabiting the Oval Office. For example, we have this from exit82:
I don’t think Biden automatically becomes the President. He serves as acting President if the existing President is found ineligible.
Then a new President is chosen.
From the 20th Amendment:
- If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
I think the case may be made that if Zero was NEVER qualified to serve,it was as if the President did not qualify by the beginning of his appointed time to begin serving as President, and the Congress will have to determine how a new President will be deemed to be qualified to serve.
I'm going to give exit82 a leeeetle bit of credit here. He spelled "Amendment" correctly. That's not always a given in Freeperville. Interestingly what he's doing here is trying to calm people down by telling them that Congress will choose the next president. Get that? The DEMOCRATICALLY-CONTROLLED Congress. Yeah, that'll make the conservatives much more comfortable.
Cincinna has a "unique" view:
IMHO there is a 95% chance that his genuine Hawaii birth certificate is in a vault somewhere in Hawaii. By witholding it, Obama is making the Right go nuts, and get distracted from his dangerous policies and plan for socializing America.
Then Obama can point to the Right as wackos and nutjobs.
He may be evil, but he is not stupid.
Ooo! Another conspiracy theory. Hey, at least he acknowledges that the President of the United States of America isn't stupid. He's just evil. That's a step in the right direction, I suppose, since George W. was both.
Responding an earlier comment that "Obama has said that he is a Christian", Cincinna chimes in again:
IMHO he is not a Christian, he is an Atheist, raised by an Atheist Commie mother, and Atheist Commie grandparents.
So, you see? The president can't help being an Atheist Commie. It's not his fault. It's genetic.
Dalereed had this pithy comment:
School teachers are not smart!
Those that can do, those that can’t teach!!!!
Arrest and deport the illegal alien from Kenya!!!
Sigh... Sometimes the brilliance and pure intellect displayed in Freeperville restores my faith in America. That's because it means these lame-brains probably won't be intelligent enough to figure out how/where/when to vote and so might actually be prevented from having anything whatsoever to do with choosing the leaders of our country.
Cincinna can't seem to shut up:
Frank Marshall Davis, his "mentor" was a Commie who took the nude pictures of Obama’s mother that have recently surfaced. She was 16 at the time.
If you look at videos of Obama speaking, he very much resembles Malcolm X.
Obama’s mother really got around, if you get my drift, and travelled in the same circles as Malcolm X....possible?
This is basically the "your dead mother was a whore" insult. Based on their comments, I now believe that Cincinna must be in 7th grade.
CodeMasterPhilzar weighs in with this awesome bit of conspiracy theorism:
I believe that obama is not eligible to be the President. I think you're right and that is exactly why he is fighting to keep his real birth certificate sealed. I also wonder if someone (person or persons) in Chicago know and have proof of this, and are "pulling his strings." Why the private blackberry? Who is on the other end of it?
Finally, I believe obama knows he is an illegal President. This is why he is moving so recklessly fast to attempt to implement his socialist agenda for the US. He may know that it is just a matter of time before he is thrown out of office...
"Obama the Manchurian Candidate"? Really? So who WOULD be on the other end of it in this scenario? George Soros? Karl Marx? The president of Denmark?
Theodore R. isn't buying it:
I do not think that the truth will come out, and if it does, it will be disbelieved by the American sheeple.
Get it? "Sheeple"? That means that the "people" are "sheep" and he's combined them into...oh, nevermind...Clever!TM loses something when you explain it...
vaudine jumps into the fray:
"How could anyone in good conscious even run for POTUS knowing they did not meet constitutional requirements?"
Ever hear of Narcisstic Personality Disorder? A NPD is way out arrogant and self aggrandizing.
He also is not in this thing alone. Wm Ayers and wife are, and have always been long term planners. They and like non patriots would love the fraud perpetrated on a hated state (US) of helping elect a non-citizen adhering to their Communist persuasion.
Oh, thank GAWD!!! I thought we were going to get all the way to the end without getting William Ayers into the conversation. All we're missing now is some Reverend Wright and a side dish of ACORN and we'll have the Full Monty.
More on the "Your Dead Mother Was a Whore" front from LUV W:
EEUUWW. Last thing I want to see is nude shots of Zero’s mom!
I’ll just take your word for it! LOL!
Maybe SHE doesn’t know who Zero’s father is. Gotta wonder.
Was it Frank Marshall Davis? Was it Malcom X? Yeah, President Obama's mother was such a whore she couldn't keep track of all the men she whored around with and couldn't tell which one got her whoreself knocked up. Classy, LUV W, very, very classy. Oh, and "LUV W"? Really??? You guys are still holding that guy up as somebody to adore and love?
omega4179 gets to the heart of the whole thing:
So He’s Barry Dunham or Barry Davis.
The main issue then is the leader of the socialist west and holder of the nuclear codes, we don’t even know his real name, or seen his grades or thesis.
And yet he's already done more to help the country than eight years of George W. Bush. Imagine that.
2CAVTrooper confuses things:
He’s neither Christian nor atheist.
He’s a muslim.
In an interview with Nicholas Kristof that was published in the NY Slimes, 0bama recited the muslim call to prayer, the adhan, "with a first-class [arabic] accent."
The opening lines of the adhan (azaan) is the shahada:
"allah is supreme! allah is supreme!
allah is supreme! allah is supreme!
I witness that there is no god but allah
I witness that there is no god but allah
I witness that muhammad is his prophet..."
And according to islamic scholars, the reciting of the shahada, (muslim declaration of faith) makes one a muslim.
Dang it! I can't keep track. Is he an adherent of Black Liberation Theology, an Atheist Commie, a Socialist or a Muslim? I just am so confused...
mojitojoe prefers Biden:
"Geeeeez, the thought of having Biden as President is enough to leave Obama alone."
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NO it is NOT!!!! I’ll take goofy over angry evil dictator wannabe with a narcissist mental illness any ole day.
"Angry evil dictator wannabe with a narcissist mental illness"? Oh. So THAT'S how you "Support the President". Got it.
rcrngroup prefers Biden, too:
Personally I would opt for "dumber than dirt" Biden in a heartbeat, over that pure unadulterated evil lying POS 0booooooombo any day of the week.
Our country will survive 4 years of Biden stupidity & gaffes....Heck it will even be amusing and we could form office pools anticipating where & when his next gaffes would take place. But I fear greatly for our country to even survive as a free or prosperous nation, if that bastard 0boooooombo continues as socialist-fascist-commie pig usurper-in-chief.
Sorry, mojitojoe. You had it wrong. "Pure unadulterated evil lying POS bastard socialist-fascist-commie pig usurper-in-chief" is how you are to refer the president. Now apologize to rcrngroup.
From patriot08:
Also, 'Plugs' is not a muzzie.
Translation: "Vice-president Joe Biden is not a member of the Islamic faith like President Obama is." Thanks for setting us straight on that, patriot08, you racist, ignorant piece of shit.
AmericanArchConservative sorts it out further:
Biden would not be eligible to be seated as President - which many people here overlook.
He was selected by zer0bama as running mate. If zer0 was/is ineligible, then he did/does not have the legal standing to have made ANY choice thereof.
Biden is out. We will not like the next alternative.
Speaker of the House of Representatives, Nancy "Botox Queen" Pelosi.
That sound you hear? That's Freeper heads essploding.
Kickass Conservative goes off the deep end. Totally:
Wouldn't it be easier to treat Obama as an Enemy Combatant?
I'll get the Caterpillar if you get the bucket of water.
Waterboard the president? Really, d00d? You're going there???
The ironically-named wideminded asks a question:
I wonder what happened with the congressman who proposed a law that all future presidential candidates must present more convincing proof of being a natural-born citizen. I don't recall if he was proposing a certifying body and obviously there are some kinks to work out such as an exact definition of "natural born". But I think this guy was on the right track.
Oh, that guy? I think he was laughed out of the chambers, down the hall, out the door and into the street if I'm not mistaken.
VRWCtaz works it out:
You've given me something to think about here. I was of the mind that the 25th [Amendment] would be the controlling law but you are correct that a very good case can be made that "Zero was NEVER qualified to serve" and, therefor, relief should be via the 20th [Amendment].
Aren't they just so adorable when they're trying to think? Heh, heh, that's cute!
Okay, that's enough. I honestly can't take any more. Let's end it on a spiritual note with a prayer from GBA:
If one believes that all is a part of God's plan and that "pride goeth before a fall" and other such homilies and Proverbs are true, one can see that obama and the demonrats have been given the rope to hang themselves and the lever triggering the trap door is set to be pulled.
Many of us pray that somehow God will intervene to alter our course and save us from our ways. And others who don't have faith or belief, none the less are committed to bringing about the same thing. These are certainly interesting times.
Amen, Brutha/Sistah GBA, amen.
I'm just sayin'...