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    It is time for the cruel and destructive practice of "Don’t ask don’t tell" to end in the United States Military.  I want to congratulate Lt. Dan Choi who has now been kicked out of the service for revealing he was gay for having the character and strength to face down the discrimination he faced under the current policy.  I am sure there are plenty of people out there who find this policy completely acceptable and if you do you are wrong and you are a bigot.  This is just homophobia and it is time that it comes to an end!  I consider this one of President Obama’s failures since he has been in office.  I understand he really doesn’t want the fight right now with all the problems we currently face and two wars, but just like with torture, if we are going to be a country with integrity who has a true ethical center then we need to face down the bigots and haters in our military and our nation who believe it is ok to discriminate against others because they don’t believe their personal life choices are morally correct or are an abomination against whatever god you may be praying too.    

    I saw a news report on CNN yesterday that I just have to comment on.  There is a cell phone application called "Me So Holy" where you can put your face in an outline of Jesus or a nun or some other religious picture.  I found it to be very funny, but Apple did not because they refused to sell it on their phones.  I am sure they did not want the bad publicity, but I think there are plenty of people out there who would not find it blasphemous and find it very amusing.  I guess Apple just doesn’t want to piss off the Jesus lovers because we all know how sensitive they can be.  

    Finally I come to the Philosopher of the Week, and we are sticking with the French philosopher Jean Jacques Rousseau who wrote, "Remorse sleeps during prosperity but awakes bitter consciousness during adversity." I wish this was the case on Wall Street, but alas these men never examine their evil deeds. Well until tomorrow; go see Star Trek if you haven’t yet, and goodbye...

Originally posted to OBAMA AND ME on Wed May 13, 2009 at 12:53 PM PDT.


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Comment Preferences

  •  Yeah. They fret openly (10+ / 0-)

    about what the open presence of gay men and women in the military would do to good order and discipline, but the problem of rape in the military is a minor issue. The problem of suicide, they got that covered. PTSD, not a problem. But gays in the military! We'll have to study that very deeply for a really long time. Give me a break!

    Ambition is when you follow your dreams. Insanity is when they follow you.

    by Batfish on Wed May 13, 2009 at 01:01:31 PM PDT

  •  The best course (5+ / 0-)

    Is to link DADT with the other (and maybe as pervasive problem) of female rape in the military.  Private, consensual sex is nobody's business regardless of gender.  Forced sex gets a discharge for the perpetrator.

  •  $363.8 Million (7+ / 0-)

    nuff said.

    DADT is not only disenfranchising members of our military, but it costs the government a LOT of money.

    "We are America! I don't give a rat's ass if it [torture] helps, we are America! We do not fucking torture! We don't do it." - Shep Smith, FOX News

    by rexymeteorite on Wed May 13, 2009 at 01:02:36 PM PDT

  •  I am a heterosexual but that does not mean (4+ / 0-)

    I would make a better soldier.  We have people
    who are openly gay serving in congress.  Service is
    honorable and sexual orientation should have nothing
    to do with anything.  Why not kick out gays in Congress with this absurd mentality.  Let the gays serve and be who they are.  Don't ask, don't tell is
    asking a soldier to commit perjury and live a lie.
    It's wrong.  Repeal !

  •  not only that (1+ / 0-)
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    DADT provides a loop hole in which recruits/trainees can squelch on their contractual obligation to our government.

    Believe it or not redstaters, there is a pragmatic side to ending this horrible legislation...

    "We are America! I don't give a rat's ass if it [torture] helps, we are America! We do not fucking torture! We don't do it." - Shep Smith, FOX News

    by rexymeteorite on Wed May 13, 2009 at 01:05:46 PM PDT

  •  DADT should be overturned (2+ / 0-)
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    DaleA, freakofsociety

    But I'm not certain if it should/could be overturned right now.  Senate doesn't have the votes, and the President, while technically could issue an executive order, would be just like Bush in terms of doing that to laws he didn't like.

    •  He can issue an Executive Order (0+ / 0-)

      ending the witch hunts, basically putting it all into a holding pattern until Congress could pass a bill making it legal for homosexuals to serve openly. It wouldn't be perfect, but it would be a step in the right direction, it would keep people like Choi in uniform, it would end the money-drain that is DADT and it would be a huge shot in the arm for the LGBT community. Call me selfish, but I think those are pretty good reasons and all it would take would be his signature.

      •  His reasons may be good (0+ / 0-)

        But he can't issue an executive order, there's conflicting information on this issue, some saying he can't, others saying he can, but let's say he does what you say he can and issues an executive order.  

        You do realize that Congress can state the executive order would be overly broad.  You know who would be at the front of the whole thing?  John McCain.  

  •  i voted "NO", because... (0+ / 0-)

    ...we don't need to CHANGE don't ask, don't tell, it needs to be ABOLISHED.

    "A time comes when silence is betrayal." ~ MLK, Jr.

    by liberaldemdave on Wed May 13, 2009 at 01:13:56 PM PDT

  •  I think it should change (2+ / 0-)
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    Shirl In Idaho, halef

    I spent 10 years in the service and nobody gave a rats ass who was gay or not. We cared how well people did their jobs.

    That being said, I don't think an executive order is going to do it. The UCMJ has to be changed as well.

    •  Agree - from another venue (0+ / 0-)

      Different army and I can't claim that length of service, but I whole-heartedly agree with the premise:  It's the performance that counts.

      Vainglorious and selfish higher ranks are far more common and have a far more deleterious effect on readiness and morale than the - in my experience - extremely rare instances of same-sex stepping-over-the-line.

      γνωθι σεαυτόν

      by halef on Wed May 13, 2009 at 01:56:40 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Of course it's time to end DADT. (3+ / 0-)
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    Shirl In Idaho, FeDhu, halef

    It's time to acknowledge the earth is not flat and revolves around the sun as well, and as soon as someone else manages to get a bill saying so through the Democratically controlled Congress in spite of Republican opposition, our 'fierce advocate' will be more than happy to claim credit for it and sign it.

    The person who has lost the ability to trust based on the actions of the party no longer trusted is not the one who has to do the work for restoration.

    by emsprater on Wed May 13, 2009 at 01:37:27 PM PDT

  •  Rec'd but PLEASE not Rousseau (1+ / 0-)
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    First of all, J J Rousseau was not French, but from Geneva, so arguably Swiss (though I am in two minds about claiming him).

    Though he delivers good sound bites, his personal life and the broader sweep of his writings suggest judicious use of our good friend Jean-Jacques as a reference.

    γνωθι σεαυτόν

    by halef on Wed May 13, 2009 at 01:50:27 PM PDT

  •  It will end during Obama's term. He said (0+ / 0-)

    so, and I believe him. Meanwhile, there will be less gays in the military (and thus fewer gay people getting killed or injured). So waiting a bit longer is not all bad.

    I'm in the pro-Obama wing of the Democratic Party.

    by doc2 on Wed May 13, 2009 at 02:04:07 PM PDT

  •  I VOTED YES, TO REPEAL!! (1+ / 0-)
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    My reason is to get rid of the law, because it is unjust to loyal Americans who want to serve their country.  My husband served in Korea and during our discussion, he supported the repeal. "You, know the gay guys", but he did say, that some of them were beaten by fellow solders for being gay. After reading some of the posts, I think the law should be abolished and discrimination condemned in the Armed services.

  •  It should be abolished (0+ / 0-)


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