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While playing a game we got into a 'discussion'. Make of it what you will. I'm haplo1998.
A great example of how politics ruins gaming!
dickbastardly: gg all
haplo1998: gg
Zurg: gl
A battle breaks out in West Russia!
A battle breaks out in Ukraine S.S.R.!
Soviet Union collects 29 IPCs and now has 29 IPCs
jaylesnes: hey haplo ..
haplo1998: hey there
jaylesnes: watch out for a sealion......Uk will need some land units
jaylesnes: or all air
A battle breaks out in Ukraine S.S.R.!
haplo1998: yup
A battle breaks out in Sea Zone 13!
Germany collects 40 IPCs and now has 40 IPCs
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Zurg: brits look confused
Zurg: to much tea?
haplo1998: maybe!
haplo1998: maybe
Zurg: there u go
Zurg: grow a pair
Zurg: take fic too
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A battle breaks out in Libya!
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haplo1998: yuck
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A battle breaks out in Sea Zone 45!
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haplo1998: they say Churchill drank a 5th of Scotch every day.
A battle breaks out in Sea Zone 59!
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Zurg: and two bottles of champagne
Zurg: ya ya
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haplo1998: two bottles to?
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haplo1998: wow
Zurg: dont think so, the champagne is true
Zurg: the scotch, not that much
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Zurg: but everyone drink a lot back than
Zurg: he could of
Zurg: the champagne is true, according in his own letters
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United Kingdom collects 30 IPCs and now has 30 IPCs
haplo1998: maybe I'm wrong on the Scotch - but the champagne sounds right.
A battle breaks out in India!
A battle breaks out in China!
Zurg: the scotch could be true, he drink alot
Zurg: but so did all
Zurg: thangs changed in the late60s, 70s
A battle breaks out in Sea Zone 59!
A battle breaks out in Sea Zone 52!
Japan collects 36 IPCs and now has 40 IPCs
haplo1998: yeah - the health/self-improvement movement
Zurg: everyones scared of me db
Zurg: look em run
haplo1998: it's that Walter Meyer Film, Nazi Supermen Are Our Superiors!
Zurg: hahahha
Zurg: hey, wait a minute
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Zurg: what about the emperor?
Zurg: bastard
Zurg: im god
Zurg: not just some pencil mousthe geek
Zurg: leadr
Zurg: blah, im god
Zurg: i dont think commies can back up any further, do u db?
Zurg: rolling out the pop shooters though
A battle breaks out in Belorussia!
Zurg: look at that lend lease tank fac
Zurg: moscow, 2 rounds
A battle breaks out in Ukraine S.S.R.!
Zurg: oh, i was wrong, he can fall back more
Soviet Union collects 28 IPCs and now has 28 IPCs
A battle breaks out in Belorussia!
Zurg: brb
A battle breaks out in Sea Zone 15!
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Germany collects 39 IPCs and now has 39 IPCs
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jaylesnes: i will loan u my carrier..if u want to go to zone 6 next round
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haplo1998: ok
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haplo1998: the positive is that Germany isn't putting much on the Eastern Front yet
jaylesnes: im not crazy about gemanys strategy......he is gonna lose a lot of ipc's next round
A battle breaks out in Persia!
A battle breaks out in Sea Zone 34!
A battle breaks out in Anglo-Egypt!
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Japan collects 41 IPCs and now has 44 IPCs
jaylesnes: uk move your sub up to galapagos islands to protect western usa
haplo1998: where?
haplo1998: SZ 55?
jaylesnes: zone 55
haplo1998: ok
haplo1998: if they win the seabattle they can still land...
A battle breaks out in Karelia S.S.R.!
United States collects 39 IPCs and now has 39 IPCs
haplo1998: UK could land in France next turn. want me to try?
A battle breaks out in Eastern Europe!
jaylesnes: lets see what germany does
haplo1998: yes
A battle breaks out in Balkans!
A battle breaks out in Belorussia!
A battle breaks out in West Russia!
A battle breaks out in Persia!
A battle breaks out in Sinkiang!
System: Wimpgod has defeated pgkashmir and Denhig in a Sit and Go Tournament
jaylesnes: also do me a favor and move that persia aa gun to jordan
haplo1998: will do
Soviet Union collects 34 IPCs and now has 34 IPCs
jaylesnes: ZURG..was laughing at russia retreating......
haplo1998: Allows you to concentrate
jaylesnes: exactly
haplo1998: I don't like that German navy though
haplo1998: but, depending on what Germany does - I'll but men and maybe more ships
jaylesnes: those inf in the east are bette in novo than in bury
jaylesnes: uk and usa can go to 6 this time
haplo1998: yup
haplo1998: Is germany confused?
jaylesnes: i guess norway
jaylesnes: france looks tough to get
AA guns miss in Caucasus
Soviet Union loses 2 IPCs to strategic bombing in Caucasus
A battle breaks out in Balkans!
A battle breaks out in Eastern Europe!
A battle breaks out in Karelia S.S.R.!
Germany collects 36 IPCs and now has 36 IPCs
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jaylesnes: might as well march the africa troops toward persia...usa has africa covered
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jaylesnes: only putting 4 troops in norway?
haplo1998: more?
jaylesnes: what ever fits
haplo1998: I can always ship more
jaylesnes: on transports
haplo1998: next turn
System: pgkashmir has defeated Denhig and Wimpgod in a Sit and Go Tournament
jaylesnes: do it now
haplo1998: k
jaylesnes: better for him to attack uk than russia
jaylesnes: better for us i mean
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jaylesnes: i dont see a need to destroy germany fleet uk can keep shipping through norway
haplo1998: nor do I
jaylesnes: later when uk has more airforce ...then maybe
jaylesnes: let him attack us
haplo1998: yup
haplo1998: All those ships in SZ 6 essentially bottles him up.
haplo1998: a US factory in Brazil cuts down transport time to both Europe and Africa
jaylesnes: no
haplo1998: probably too late now
jaylesnes: thats a misnomer
haplo1998: you think?
jaylesnes: definetly
haplo1998: how so?
haplo1998: because production is limited?
jaylesnes: i only get delayed on round 2
haplo1998: fair enough
jaylesnes: after round 2..algeria gets 5 inf and 5 tanks every round
jaylesnes: brazil no good because of 3 unit limitation
haplo1998: makes sense
AA guns miss in Caucasus
Soviet Union loses 4 IPCs to strategic bombing in Caucasus
Japan collects 39 IPCs and now has 44 IPCs
A battle breaks out in Ukraine S.S.R.!
United States collects 44 IPCs and now has 46 IPCs
A battle breaks out in Karelia S.S.R.!
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jaylesnes: i play an agreessive ussr
jaylesnes: germany is too passive
haplo1998: I do too
haplo1998: it's the only way to survive
jaylesnes: yep
haplo1998: gotta throw the axis off their game
A battle breaks out in Belorussia!
A battle breaks out in Ukraine S.S.R.!
jaylesnes: the further away from moscow i can fight the enemy the better
A battle breaks out in Karelia S.S.R.!
haplo1998: yup
haplo1998: that's a lot of naked tanks sitting in EE
jaylesnes: problem is .. you cant get to them
haplo1998: no - but German tanks w/out inf support get chewed up by Russian stacks
haplo1998: and Germany can't afford the losses with UK and US in the game
Germany collects 35 IPCs and now has 35 IPCs
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jaylesnes: true
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A battle breaks out in Karelia S.S.R.!
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jaylesnes: can u send 2 planes to russia
jaylesnes: they are in england
jaylesnes: ty
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jaylesnes: usa is gonna attack balkins
jaylesnes: with aiforce
United Kingdom collects 31 IPCs and now has 31 IPCs
jaylesnes: attack ukraine i mean
jaylesnes: the russian tank blitz to balkins
A battle breaks out in Sinkiang!
1 bomber shot down over Caucasus
Zurg: commie bastard
A battle breaks out in Anglo-Egypt!
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jaylesnes: sorry
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Japan collects 42 IPCs and now has 42 IPCs
A battle breaks out in Ukraine S.S.R.!
United States collects 39 IPCs and now has 45 IPCs
A battle breaks out in Belorussia!
A battle breaks out in Sinkiang!
A battle breaks out in Persia!
Soviet Union collects 30 IPCs and now has 30 IPCs
jaylesnes: when russia is richer than germany.....germany is not doing its job
haplo1998: nope
haplo1998: Germany spend too much on its navy
jaylesnes: yea
A battle breaks out in Balkans!
haplo1998: wtf
haplo1998: he bought a sub
haplo1998: You going to try for southern Europe?
A battle breaks out in Belorussia!
jaylesnes: nope
haplo1998: We could also go for a tag-team assualt in France
jaylesnes: nah
A battle breaks out in Ukraine S.S.R.!
jaylesnes: im not doing europe until usa contains japan in southern asia
A battle breaks out in Karelia S.S.R.!
haplo1998: k
Germany collects 35 IPCs and now has 35 IPCs
jaylesnes: i think it is time to kill that navy
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jaylesnes: use all airforce too
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jaylesnes: put 1 inf on trans
jaylesnes: and land in EE
jaylesnes: just in case 1 transport survives
A battle breaks out in Sea Zone 5!
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Zurg: huh
Zurg: whats up limey?
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Zurg: missing something?
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jaylesnes: keep going
haplo1998: awful rolls
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haplo1998: nice
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jaylesnes: usa can finish him off
haplo1998: those were bs rolls
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jaylesnes: he got real lucky
jaylesnes: but it doesnt matter
haplo1998: real lucky
jaylesnes: i will go to 6 to protect your fleet
haplo1998: take out that ********* navy
jaylesnes: im woried about russia
haplo1998: If you survive this you'll be fine
jaylesnes: lucky usa has plane in caucus i can block german tanks
haplo1998: I'm more worried about Moscow
jaylesnes: hopefully aa gun will get hits
jaylesnes: me too
jaylesnes: uk planes were protecting russia
jaylesnes: i frgot
jaylesnes: forgot
A battle breaks out in Australia!
Zurg: huh
Zurg: bullets
A battle breaks out in Russia!
Zurg: commies
haplo1998: close
jaylesnes: YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Zurg: ya, joke dice
Zurg: 2 hits out of 4 on aa
haplo1998: didn't say that when my fleet attacked
Zurg: below ave hits, 4 out 5 rolls
Zurg: joke
Zurg: ya i did
Zurg: not out loud
jaylesnes: germany slaughtered UK fleet..so it evens out
Zurg: yup
Japan collects 41 IPCs and now has 44 IPCs
haplo1998: the other night I saw a brit destroyer take out a japanese bb and tran
haplo1998: insane
Zurg: o ya, that happens
Zurg: and the destroyer in egypt, first round, killing all germ
Zurg: happens
haplo1998: yup
haplo1998: sucks though!
Zurg: yup
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Zurg: brb
jaylesnes: zurg... let me know when u get back..so i can click "end phase" for battle
jaylesnes: time ticking down..need to click end phase
Zurg: back
A battle breaks out in Ukraine S.S.R.!
A battle breaks out in India!
A battle breaks out in China!
Soviet Union collects 23 IPCs and now has 23 IPCs
jaylesnes: i will smash german fleet
jaylesnes: oops ..sorry that was meant for team chat
haplo1998: hulk smash
haplo1998: smash smah
haplo1998: smash
Zurg: hahaha, we think u will anyways
Zurg: just when
A battle breaks out in West Russia!
A battle breaks out in Archangel!
A battle breaks out in Ukraine S.S.R.!
Germany collects 39 IPCs and now has 39 IPCs
jaylesnes: uk can u go to zone 4
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jaylesnes: take out kar and arch
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jaylesnes: usa will get west russia
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A battle breaks out in Karelia S.S.R.!
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A battle breaks out in Archangel!
jaylesnes: good job
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United Kingdom collects 32 IPCs and now has 37 IPCs
jaylesnes: i will kill his fleet sou your ships ae safe
A battle breaks out in China!
A battle breaks out in India!
Japan collects 42 IPCs and now has 46 IPCs
Zurg: u believe these tasing of the old lady, he shouldve just shot the old bag
Zurg: she sat there and cussed him out for mins
jaylesnes: zurg... your watching O'Reilly?
Zurg: yup
jaylesnes: me too
Zurg: u too?
Zurg: hhaaha
jaylesnes: lol
Zurg: i luv o reilly
Zurg: but all hve seen this old lady get tased
haplo1998: O'Liely? That lying crypto fascist?
Zurg: my god, all these wackos dissing police, need to be shot
jaylesnes: big cop like that...what a
Zurg: ya, that fascist
jaylesnes: p
jaylesnes: u
jaylesnes: s
Zurg: right u are
jaylesnes: s
jaylesnes: y
Zurg: lol
Zurg: lol
Zurg: if he had touched her, it wouldve been just as bad
Zurg: o the big man, manhandling the old lady
Zurg: he had a no win situation
jaylesnes: he elevated a calm situation by yelling at her
Zurg: o bs
Zurg: she was rude old bag
Zurg: u dont treat police like that
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Zurg: shot her
Zurg: shouldve
Zurg: fujking people in this country think they can do anything
Zurg: and get away with it
A battle breaks out in India!
haplo1998: no wonder you like playing nazi germany
Zurg: yup, im a facist
A battle breaks out in West Russia!
Zurg: homophobe
Zurg: racist
Zurg: bastard
Zurg: like all republicans
Zurg: i hate dogs to
Zurg: and cats
Zurg: and birds
Zurg: and trees
Zurg: the whole environment
Zurg: pave it all
Zurg: kill it and grill it, all animals
Zurg: im the president of the vast right wing conspircy
Zurg: and we are vast
Zurg: everywhere
haplo1998: yup. :-) sounds like.
Zurg: yup
haplo1998: that's why god made nuclear weapons
haplo1998: and gas
Zurg: yup, nuke em all
United States collects 43 IPCs and now has 44 IPCs
Zurg: but geee, its ok if iran gets nukes
Zurg: we got em after all
Zurg: just listen randy rhodes show
Zurg: lol
Zurg: its not fair we got nukes and they dont
Zurg: i luv listening to radio america, omg
Zurg: talk about wackos
Zurg: al franken, hes my hero
Zurg: lol
Zurg: to bad hes in senate now, his show had me laffing so hard
Zurg: wacko central
A battle breaks out in Yakut S.S.R.!
haplo1998: and Israel has nukes too - since 1966.
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A battle breaks out in Ukraine S.S.R.!
Zurg: ya, what a horrible situation they have nukes
Zurg: with them suicide bombing the whole world
haplo1998: has been pivotal in deterring the Arabs.
haplo1998: Iran and Israel will deter each other.
Zurg: talkiing about killing islam, and muslims
Zurg: blowing up innocent people
haplo1998: no war.
haplo1998: that's what war is.
Zurg: ya, thats isreal alright
haplo1998: US firebombed Japanese cities. War is war.
Zurg: ya, iran needs nukes, thats only fair
Zurg: omg
Zurg: wacko
Zurg: ya, u right, i see isreal using nukes, blowing up innocent people all the time
Zurg: huh, was it isreal that sold nuke tech to pakstan, and india? hmm
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haplo1998: Pakistan got it from China most likely.
haplo1998: China got it from the Russians
Zurg: yup
Zurg: yup
haplo1998: India's was more home grown - though they got some assistance from us in the '50s
Zurg: and gee, north korea, they need nukes too
Zurg: only fair
Zurg: south korea has us
Zurg: lol
Zurg: ya, india started up nuke energy in 60s
A battle breaks out in Ukraine S.S.R.!
Zurg: they pretty smart, china smart too, but they to poor after civil war, ww2
jaylesnes: uk..may need to load norway...from 6
Zurg: had to get help
Zurg: and dumb communism
Zurg: that works great
jaylesnes: so u can go to 5 on subseuent rounds
Zurg: look at sov union
Zurg: lol
Zurg: and cuba
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Zurg: and anglo
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Zurg: lol
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jaylesnes: uk unload from 6 ..and usa will provide cover
jaylesnes: then following rounds u can go to 5
A battle breaks out in Belorussia!
jaylesnes: im getting out of west russia
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jaylesnes: russia needs to defend caucus
haplo1998: that's fine
haplo1998: that's fine
jaylesnes: im a penguaphobe....thats is to say ... afraid of gay penguins
United Kingdom collects 33 IPCs and now has 33 IPCs
Zurg: i luv dennis miller, always hve
jaylesnes: hes funny
Zurg: since before he was even on snl
Zurg: hes great, but i dont get his radio show here
Zurg: suxks
jaylesnes: hes a cerebral comedian
Zurg: hes one of my favs
jaylesnes: i dont like david letterman...but i do like Sarah Palin
haplo1998: Palin?
haplo1998: are you serious?
haplo1998: Palin?
jaylesnes: yea sarah palin
haplo1998: I think you can probably take Ukraine
haplo1998: why?
haplo1998: I'm really curious
jaylesnes: whats not to like about sarah palin.....She is smart, successful, decent
haplo1998: wow
haplo1998: just
haplo1998: wow
haplo1998: how exactly?
Zurg: palin isnt that dumb, sorry
Zurg: u just like to make her look stupid, like biden
Zurg: i was thinking of going to otherside, to put brazil in play
jaylesnes: the people who say they dont like her... i wonder about them.....if u met her socially and she was single.....who man would turn her down to go out on a date
jaylesnes: she is a good catch
1 bomber shot down over Caucasus
Zurg: wow
Zurg: 2 in one game
Zurg: lucky commies
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jaylesnes: The media detracted from Sarah Palin, Clarence Thomas, Dan Quayle....but yet they are all decent good citizens
Zurg: ya, true, quayles not dumb either
Zurg: and thomas, lol
Zurg: borked
Zurg: dont forget bork
Zurg: that was pathetic o********* and biden
Zurg: what they did to bork
jaylesnes: Quayle is a sharp guy.. no doubt...
jaylesnes: Bork is another one
Zurg: kennedy and biden, what they did to bork was totally uncalled for
Zurg: it started it all
Zurg: the so called politics of self destruction
jaylesnes: Making fun of people may be a profitable business in this country but it is not very honorable...and to me a mans honor is worth more than gold
Zurg: lol, that clinton made that term up
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haplo1998: that's what politics is.
haplo1998: honor is worth little if you lose
Zurg: wasnt as near as ugly in the 80s, as it is now
Zurg: let alone the 70s, 60s, 50s
Zurg: i thought the 80s was bad
Zurg: now, lol
haplo1998: well, if I have to chose, I'll chose the corporate fatcats over the whackjob religious people.
haplo1998: money is rational
Zurg: o ya, those evil christians
Zurg: lol
haplo1998: money makes sense
Zurg: pushing there religion on u
Zurg: lol
Zurg: they so bad
haplo1998: maybe people don't like it
Zurg: haplo, u sound like a stero typical lib
Zurg: lol
haplo1998: that's because I'm an educated person
Zurg: ya, u sound like
Zurg: those evil religious people
Zurg: how dare they push goodness off on u
Zurg: lol
Zurg: u kill me dude
haplo1998: define good
haplo1998: is it in the Bible?
Zurg: sure is
haplo1998: which part? the part where they stone people to death?
Zurg: lots of good stuff, being kind to others etc
haplo1998: Where god wipes out humanity with a flood?
Zurg: no, the part about be on to others
haplo1998: ah - and that's 'religion' as opposed to just the golden rule.
Zurg: as u would like them to be on to u
Zurg: and turn the other check
haplo1998: but, it's part of the bible. you can't dismiss one part while accepting the other.
United States collects 41 IPCs and now has 41 IPCs
Zurg: sure u can, u just dont do it anymore
Zurg: how many christians say to stone people now a days?
Zurg: thats your lively iran that doe that still
Zurg: lol
Zurg: and cut peoples heads off
Zurg: arms
Zurg: etc
Zurg: saudi
Zurg: iraq
Zurg: syria
Zurg: they still do that
Zurg: not christians
Zurg: i watched a beheading in saudi, back in 91
Zurg: so civilized
Zurg: and they just beheaded someone, what 2 years ago?
haplo1998: sure. all relligion is crazy and intrinsically oppressive.
Zurg: how many christians do that or even preach it?
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haplo1998: And, your 'faith' was just as oppressive hundreds of years ago.
Zurg: oppressive? hhahaah
Zurg: how?
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Zurg: how is christianity oppressing u?
Zurg: do tale
haplo1998: go read about the wars of religion in Europe. Educate yourself.
haplo1998: Sure.
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Zurg: i know the history
haplo1998: oh?
Zurg: thats why its called HISTORY
haplo1998: and you deny the oppressiveness of medieval and early-modern religion in Europe?
Zurg: do christians, still oppress"?
Zurg: do tale
haplo1998: not now - but that's not because of Christianity.
Zurg: how they oppressing u in the states?
Zurg: o, not now
Zurg: ok
Zurg: lol
haplo1998: It's do do liberal secularism imprisoning faith within the confies of the liberal democratic state.
Zurg: or do u think the ten commandments oppresses u ?
Zurg: by being hung in a courtroom?
haplo1998: I think they are largely irrelevant.
Zurg: ok
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Zurg: righ
Zurg: right
Zurg: confines of the liberal democratic state
Zurg: wow
Zurg: big words
Zurg: lol
haplo1998: do you know what they mean?
Zurg: gee
Zurg: no
Zurg: im a facist remember
Zurg: we all dumb
Zurg: homoophobes
Zurg: racist
haplo1998: I'm merely asking. And, I didn't say anything.
Zurg: hate enrivonment
Zurg: and dumb
jaylesnes: Oppression comes from not following religion...and clerics can oppress by not practicing what is preached
Zurg: said that twice
haplo1998: laughable
Zurg: ya, u are dude
Zurg: very laughable
haplo1998: and who defines what religion consists of?
haplo1998: who interprets it?
haplo1998: who reveals it?
jaylesnes: Mother Teresa..followed Catholicism more perfectly than any other Catholic.....
haplo1998: sure
Zurg: anyone can interpet, according to u , am i right?
Zurg: but u can choose any faith
Zurg: how many are out there?
haplo1998: and so did the priests who molested little boys - and the church hierarchy which covered it up.
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Zurg: 100, to 1000s
Zurg: usa alone
Zurg: omg, another bomber?
Zurg: lol
jaylesnes: Adolf Hitler broke the teaachings of Catholicism
haplo1998: what are you even babbling about?
jaylesnes: Mother Teresa followed them ..Adolf Hitler broke them
Zurg: ya, bring up the 2%who molested , ok
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Zurg: lol
Zurg: so all is bad
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haplo1998: you don't even make sense
Zurg: like all those who rape and molest without religion
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haplo1998: uh huh
Zurg: no, u dont make sense
haplo1998: sure
Zurg: sound like a typical lib dude, do what ever u want, and religion is oppressing me
Zurg: because it says there are thangs u cant do, or shouldnt do
Zurg: lol
jaylesnes: Look ..the Church makes a proposition... some believe and obey...others believe and dont obey....still some others dont believe and dont obey
haplo1998: and everyone has the freedom to make their own decision
jaylesnes: yea
Zurg: of course dude, u can choose religion, or not
jaylesnes: and one should not be coerced to choose
Zurg: but there are plenty religions to choose from
Zurg: even a lib can find one that fits him
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Zurg: many out there
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jaylesnes: the united states has an official religion
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jaylesnes: it is known as secular humanism
Zurg: ya, its called freedom of religion
jaylesnes: secular humanism is a religion....so the supreme court is not impartial as it pretends to be
jaylesnes: not taking sides...is taking sides
haplo1998: how is it a religion?
haplo1998: ha
haplo1998: So - should the goverment take a side then?
jaylesnes: man and not God is the savior of the human race....it has a set of philosophies and pratices
jaylesnes: the govt does take sides
haplo1998: but, by implication you are saying that since secular humanism is a side the government takes a side.
haplo1998: should the goverment take a side?
jaylesnes: exactly
haplo1998: So, which 'side' should the government take?
haplo1998: the same one?
haplo1998: A different one?
jaylesnes: an example
jaylesnes: not allowing the ten comandments in school ..is taking a side
haplo1998: sure. Why is that bad?
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jaylesnes: it is taking the side of those who dont want it
haplo1998: Perhaps there are Hindus there.
jaylesnes: i do want it
haplo1998: So.
jaylesnes: thats my point ..they are taking a side
haplo1998: Why should that matter?
Zurg: so hindus are there,? how does it harm hindus by hving 10 commandments up
haplo1998: But, if I wanted the communist manifest posted they would deny that too.
haplo1998: maybe they don't want it.
Zurg: its mostly atheists that want all religion down
haplo1998: Or maybe a nonbeliever doesn't want it.
haplo1998: are the rights of nonbelievers to be disregarded then?
Zurg: i dont see to many hindus, islamists , jewish, etc talking about bring down symbols of religion
haplo1998: They pay taxes too.
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jaylesnes: my point is....if someone is gonna take a side....at least have the decency to admit it
Zurg: the question is
haplo1998: Many jews sue about Christmas trees.
Zurg: how is it harming the nonbelievers?
Zurg: its not
haplo1998: Ok. Secular humanism is a side.
haplo1998: WHy is that bad?
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haplo1998: I'll admit it.
haplo1998: Why is it bad?
Zurg: its not, so why do all the religionous symbols have to come down?
jaylesnes: it is bad in my mind because it is a falsehood.....
Zurg: not harming anyone
Zurg: not pushhing anything off on anyone
haplo1998: how do you know it's a falsehood? How do you know it's not harming anyone?
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Zurg: ok, im right now praying for u
Zurg: there
haplo1998: In a private school everyone signs up for what they get
Zurg: how did that harm u?
haplo1998: but why in a public sphere?
haplo1998: maybe I don't believe.
Zurg: why not?
Zurg: does no harm
haplo1998: Maybe the Hindu doesn't like it and is afraid to speak up.
Zurg: in fact, it makes most people feel good
Zurg: lol
Zurg: he praystoo
haplo1998: having no symbol there allows everyone to be free.
haplo1998: so
jaylesnes: haplo.....the world is what it is....this is where the world is at this time in human history
Zurg: and can, i dont mind
haplo1998: world is how?
Zurg: he can pray all he wants
haplo1998: to who?
jaylesnes: the world is ignorant of divinely revealed truths....
jaylesnes: i accept that reality
haplo1998: oh. I see. And who reveals that truth? You? The State?
jaylesnes: but i hold fast to my faith in the midst of it
haplo1998: Sure. And you have the freedom to. But why do you need symbols of your particular faith in public spaces?
jaylesnes: public divine revelation ended at the death of St. John the Beloved disciple
jaylesnes: the last of the apostles of Christ
haplo1998: uh huh. Sure.
haplo1998: BUt, that dodges the question.
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jaylesnes: that is what I believe "I believe".... i seak for myself only
haplo1998: I don't care what your particular faith says - why should any faith put their symbol in a public space?
haplo1998: I would be equally ok with every belief having space.
haplo1998: but that doesn't seem to satsify folks like zurg.
Zurg: dont put words and thoughts in my head dude
haplo1998: but that is the implication of what you are saying
Zurg: i dont mind hving all faith in public
Zurg: better than none
Zurg: its the atheists that want none
Zurg: not at all
haplo1998: so, if a muslim wanted a symbol o********* next to the nativity that's ok?
Zurg: i dont mind any faith being shown
Zurg: in any public space
haplo1998: or an atheist symbol?
Zurg: of what?
Zurg: i dont mind at all
haplo1998: Or a fascist symbol?
haplo1998: or a communist?
Zurg: the 3 wiseman where not christian, remember?
haplo1998: those are non-religious belief systems.
Zurg: dont bother me at all
haplo1998: but what if there's not enough space?
Zurg: whats the communsim symbol?
Zurg: whats the athestist symbol?
Zurg: do they even hve one?
haplo1998: go look for them on the internet.
Zurg: ok
haplo1998: but, what if there's not enough space?
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Zurg: but i dont mind at all
haplo1998: again, but what if there's not enough space?
Zurg: its the atheists taking all relious out of public
haplo1998: what if there's not enough space?
Zurg: than make space dude
Zurg: omg, u killing me
haplo1998: what if there's not enough?
Zurg: not enuff space, so none at all?
Zurg: omg
haplo1998: you know the answer but are unwilling to say it.
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haplo1998: that seems fair.
Zurg: u think u can read my mind huh?
Zurg: lol
haplo1998: well, it's either that or implicitly giving state sanction to one religion or another - is it not?
Zurg: not enuff space, typical lib garbage
haplo1998: ah
haplo1998: I see.
haplo1998: I make a logical argument. Give sound reasoning. And you say it's 'garbage'.
Zurg: ya, dude, u can make space for all that wants to show religous item
Zurg: really, u can
haplo1998: but say that you can't?
Zurg: space is not usally finite
Zurg: hhhahha
Zurg: right
haplo1998: yes, but hypothetically speaking.
Zurg: right
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Zurg: u just keep coming up with any reason
Zurg: lol
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haplo1998: no, it's a real reason.
Zurg: there is no reason to keep religion out of public areas
Zurg: sorry
haplo1998: Or, I suppose airports have infinite space.
Zurg: u just dont want it
Zurg: hahhaah
Zurg: ok
Zurg: wow
haplo1998: no - but what if every religion wants their symbol posted?
Zurg: u are funny dude
Zurg: so post it dude
haplo1998: you are the one who started the political nonsense.
Zurg: theres plenty of space, u just throwing anything up, to see what sticks
haplo1998: not at all.
Zurg: yup
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haplo1998: Where do you live?
haplo1998: I'm curious.
Zurg: not enuff space, thats one i love
Zurg: no space, so none
Zurg: lol
Zurg: ive heard that one so many times
Zurg: killer
haplo1998: do you live in a large, diverse city with many, many religions residing in it?
Zurg: yup
haplo1998: what city?
Zurg: university just down the road dude
Zurg: visit it
Zurg: all religions who want , are there
Zurg: lol
haplo1998: and how do they solve this problem?
Zurg: next question?
Zurg: and when i was in colleger, all who wanted to show there religion could
Zurg: and did
Zurg: and geeee
Zurg: there was space
Zurg: wowo
Zurg: lol
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jaylesnes: haplo...if i thought that every belief out to be admitted... I would A) cease to be a Catholic... B) adhere to secular humanism's doctrines... and C) i would be a hypocrit
Zurg: can u believe it? space
haplo1998: So fine. Show the symbol. I just don't think my tax dollars should pay for it.
Zurg: o
Zurg: no tax dollar , ok thats fair
Zurg: lol
Zurg: its so harmful to u
Zurg: isnt it?
Zurg: im praying right now for u
Zurg: there
haplo1998: surely you are.
Zurg: hope it hurt
Zurg: lol
haplo1998: to your nonexistent god.
Zurg: yup
Zurg: and i luv him
Zurg: and he luvs me
Zurg: that hurts u too dont it?
Zurg: lol
haplo1998: yup. I'm sure you think so.
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haplo1998: not at all. I'm touched.
Zurg: and he luvs u
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Zurg: so harmful
Zurg: me saying that, isnt it?
Zurg: pushing my religous beliefs on u
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Zurg: so sorry
haplo1998: I don't really care one way or another.
jaylesnes: haplo... u need to defend moscow... his tanks can blitz
Zurg: good for u
haplo1998: oh, but you get upset if I push mine don't you?
Zurg: didnt realy think u did, from what u been saying
haplo1998: If I call religion silly. Or ridiculous.
Zurg: nope not at all
haplo1998: sure!
Zurg: there u go again
Zurg: lol
Zurg: reading my mind
Zurg: right, sure
Zurg: lol
jaylesnes: thats the point...each side is pushing.....but only the religious suffer the accusation of pushing
haplo1998: hilarious
jaylesnes: haplo..we need to retake caucus
haplo1998: Of course.
haplo1998: and I apologize if I have offended you.
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jaylesnes: haplo.. u havent offended me at all....... u believe what u believe... i believe what i believe
haplo1998: and I say let it end there
jaylesnes: sure
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Zurg: limeys, hahah
Zurg: nice try
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haplo1998: this guys an*********
Zurg: hahaah
Zurg: dummy
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Zurg: lost moscow now
haplo1998: Very christian of you.
Zurg: hhhahaha
Zurg: dude, u need to lighten up
haplo1998: so much anger for a man of faith.
Zurg: but good one
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Zurg: die bloody limye bastards@@!!!!
jaylesnes: what happened?... i was away
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Zurg: die all
haplo1998: all dead
Zurg: nonchristians
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Zurg: die
Zurg: die
Zurg: all
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Zurg: nuke em all
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Zurg: he just fuxked u dude
Zurg: look moscow
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Zurg: he didnt sve his plane, just kept going
Zurg: now i got commie land
Zurg: for sure
haplo1998: yes. you probably won. Big man.
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jaylesnes: gg guys.....game over
haplo1998: yup
haplo1998: night
Zurg: see if u get lucky first dude
Zurg: might dice me again
jaylesnes: cmon...gimme a break ..i wont
Zurg: u did first time
jaylesnes: i seriously doubt it
jaylesnes: not this time
Zurg: and ive seen many times when it happens
Zurg: 3 bombers u shot down already
jaylesnes: i will see though..we will find out in a min
Zurg: 2 mine, with only one bomb run making it
Zurg: lucky
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Zurg: missed u in china too
Zurg: not one hit
Zurg: lucky
jaylesnes: haplo... did u just purchase that plane or was it there already
haplo1998: just bought
jaylesnes: ok
jaylesnes: oh well ..we lost..no big deal... i was losing interest anyway
haplo1998: yup
jaylesnes: to much chatter
haplo1998: yup
haplo1998: I didn't start it.
jaylesnes: this is not a good forum to have deep discussions
haplo1998: No. Not at all.
haplo1998: anyway. have a good night.
jaylesnes: u too haplo
jaylesnes: hang aound until he goes
jaylesnes: u never know