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One thing I hear rather frequently in my meanderings around Daily Kos is that some days there just aren’t any good diaries to read. Since I skim them all, and thoroughly read at least 100 every day, I have to take issue with that. It’s EASY to find good diaries. Lots of them. And this week, even more than usual of those diaries will have a green theme thanks to the inventiveness and hard work of Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse, whose idea it was, and Land of Enchantment, whose photo collages are part of the Eco-Week schedule.

Patriot Daily and I are also using this week to introduce a new Google Group, DK GreenRoots. Sixty-nine people have already joined. Here’s what it’s about:

We are bloggers at Daily Kos and other sites who are eco-advocates. We focus on a broad range of issues. We alert each other to important eco-stories in the mainstream media and on the Internet, promote bloggers at one site to readers at other sites and discuss crucial eco-issues.

Over the next few weeks, DK Greenroots will initiate a variety of environmental projects, some having to do with pushing legislation in Washington and various state capitals, and some having nothing directly to do with politics at all. Come help us put these projects together. Bring ideas of your own. If you’re already a member of the long-established DailyKos Environmentalists, don’t let that stop you from joining DK GreenRoots. We won’t be working at cross-purposes.

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The rescue begins below and continues in the jump.

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Assisted by some spiffy maps, johnnygunn asked What Chance Does ACES Have in the Senate?: "Eight Democratic senators are almost certain to oppose ACES: West Virginia – Robert Byrd;  
West Virginia – Jay Rockefeller; Alaska – Mark Begich; Louisiana – Mary Landrieu; Montana – Max Baucus; Montana – Jon Tester; North Dakota – Kent Conrad; North Dakota – Byron Dorgan. These senators all come from states that produce coal, oil, and/or natural gas.  None of these states has voted Democratic in the past three presidential elections.  Both of West Virginia’s Democratic representatives voted against ACES as well as Louisiana’s lone Democratic representative.  Correct – Louisiana only has one Democratic Congressman, despite the national Democratic sweep.  Begich only barely defeated a severely-tarnished Ted Stevens.  Baucus, Tester, Conrad, and Dorgan also represent agricultural interests that are skeptical of ACES, as well."

Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse wrote DK GreenRoots: Obama Wants Green Bottom-Up Politics: "Now, new laws are needed to address issues long neglected and reverse damaging Bush policies. This includes laws on climate change, endangered species, polluted air & water, contaminated food chains, energy, and mountaintop removal mining. Even state lawmakers now use a ‘full steam’ approach to enact laws after years of neglect. Bloggers play a key role by analyzing and writing about proposed legislation, but we can also be part of the DC debate by submitting our own proposals before DC minds are cemented in some ill-advised approach. This is all part of bottom-up politics, which includes pressuring Obama when we disagree as well as covering his back from GOP attacks."

JayinPortland explained Drinking Oregon: Will Work For Organic Beer: "I spent yesterday working the North American Organic Brewers Festival up at Overlook Park here in Portland, and I poured organic beers until it hurt.  And then I kept pouring them. Because as our (organic cotton) t-shirts said - we are ‘Saving the Planet, One Beer at a Time.’ You're damned right we are!  I am so with that."

The Overnight News Digest is posted. Included is the story Top weather experts: Weather disasters may rise

Schedule for DK GreenRoots week.
All listed times are PDT.

Tuesday June 30:
11 am:  LaughingPlanet
3 pm:  Got a Grip
7 pm:  Magnifico
Tuesday Series:
Cheers & Jeers by BiPM; Healthy Minds & Bodies by RLMiller; The Left Wing by Texas Revolutionary; Top Comments by Elise; Overnight News Digest by wader

Wednesday July 1:
5am: A Siegel
noon:  FishOutofWater
3 pm:  Asinus Asinum Fricat
7 pm:  Mark H
Wednesday Series:
Bookflurries: Bookchat by cfk; Siglines! by Wee Mama

Thursday July 2:
11 am:  Muskegon Critic
3 pm:  Bruce Nilles
7 pm:  Jill Richardson
Thursday Series:
Morning Feature by NCrissieB; Labor Diary Rescue by djtyg, Considered Forthwith by Casual Wednesday; Thursday Night Health Care by TBA (contact: TheFatLadySings); Top Comments by Elise; Write On! by SensibleShoes; Overnight News Digest by Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse

Friday July 3:
11 am:  Meteor Blades
3 pm:  TXsharon
7 pm:  Land of Enchantment
Friday Series:
Morning Feature by NCrissieB; Mojo Friday by TexDem or rbutters (TBA); Frugal Fridays by sarahnity; Friday Night at the Movies by Land of Enchantment; Top Comments by noweasels; Overnight News Digest by Oke

Saturday July 4:
11 am: Jerome a Paris
3 pm:  buhdydharma
7 pm:   Stranded Wind
Saturday Series:
Morning Feature by NCrissieB; Dawn Chorus Birdblog by lineatus; Saturday Morning Garden Blogging by Frankenoid; Saturday Morning Home Repair Blogging by boatgeek; Top Comments by carolita

Plus there'll be music on environmental themes in jotter's High Impact Diaries every morning, along with schedule updates.  Additional diaries will be filled in from amongst the following: faithfull, jeremybloom, The Cunctator, and Turkana.  And we’ll make more slots as needed - anyone who has an environmentally-related story they want to post this week, we’ll create a place on the schedule for you.

Frankenoid wrote another installment in her Saturday Morning Garden Blogging Vol. 5.19: "Our whacked-out weather year has caused unusual bloom times for a lot of plants.  The jackmanii clematis — having had its initial ultra-early spring growth frozen off — has just finally come into full flower.  And I've been searching for shoots from the passion flower vines, wondering if, perhaps, they didn't make it through the winter.  Yesterday I saw what I think might be the first signs of growth — but I'm afraid that portends for very late flowering.  Last year it was early September before I had passion flower blossoms.  This year... well, who knows."

My New HET (High Efficency Toilet) was the occasion for much punnery by Timbuk3: "I didn't expect to be writing about toilets, today. As it turns out, my leaky bathroom toilet opened a flood gate (pardon the pun) of information that leads to a great comparison between the Democrats of the early 90s and today's Democrats."

terryhallinan wrote two diaries on his favor subject: I'm All Shook Up Over Geothermal Power: "It's not surprising that even some liberals who aren't sun worshipers got shook up over the Big One but when some dittoheads got concerned for San Francisco you know the earth is moving." And While Obama Invests In Coal, Maori Invest In Geothermal: "Maori are looking to create a $2 billion geothermal power generation company off the back of this week's $500 million Central North Island Treelords settlement. Consultants employed to investigate business opportunities by the eight iwi involved in the deal say Maori could be responsible for generating 10 to 20 per cent of New Zealand's electricity within five to 10 years."

tgypsy filled in for lineatus in the Dawn Chorus Birdblog: Baby, Baby, Baby!: "For today’s birdblog, I’ve decided to share a few of the birds that breed near my home. I’ll start with the Great-horned Owl. These owls are widespread, capable of surviving in lots of climates. For the past couple of years, we’ve been watching a pair of owls raise their chicks in a cottonwood tree next to an irrigation canal. Here’s Junior looking a little concerned about the stranger poking around, while Dad appears uninterested."

greenman3610 presented another of his Climate Denial Crock of the Week diaries: "Climate science is not completely dependent on climate models. There are many threads of supporting evidence. Still, it is clear that climate models are telling us something important that we cannot afford to ignore."

kindler explained Why It's So Hard to Make Progress on Climate Change: "The  oil and coal companies that have funded the astroturf ecosystem of climate change denial websites and think tanks take full advantage of this situation and "win" the argument with the least facts on their side.  And enviros and scientists in this situation often come across as impatient, intolerant and frankly unpleasant, so fed up are they with the refusal of so many politicians to deal responsibly with the bona fide crisis we are facing."

Our old pal jillian conceded that DK Greenroots...Kermit was right, it ain't easy: "I know...I know....’doom and gloom’ some would say, that's not the way to get people ‘AMPED up and EXCITED about helping the Environment!!!!!!!! Yeah!!!!!" Well...true enough, but I don't really want to be a cheerleader TO a cause, I want to work FOR a cause. I would rather get into the dirt and work to address some issues and hopefully find some solutions. Such as, you ask?"

webuyitgreen took a look at the same issues in Creating a Personal Plan for Confronting Climate Change – Taking Political Action: "As one new climate study after another crosses our headlines, most of us have come to understand that the problem is real, but we are uncertain about what we need to do about it.  In Creating a Personal Plan for Confronting Climate Change: Part 1 – Sources of Information, I argued that the first step is to stop reading endless ‘Tips for Reducing Your Carbon Footprint’ and find reliable sources that address the actual scope of the problem.  This leads to the realization that political action must be part of any effective personal plan for confronting climate change."

Nuisance Industry announced that The Great Lakes have a czar. Meet Cameron Davis: "Earlier this month, the White House announced the appointment of another czar -- one tasked with maintaining the health of the Great Lakes."

Green Building Celebration was ForFreedom’s diary on how the construction industry is turning green at an accelerating pace.

Contributing Edtior Devilstower wrote a letter to the White House: Mr. President, go and see for yourself: "You don't have to travel to the far side of the world to see protesters being arrested as they attempt to save their families, communities, and future. You don't have to travel to the far side of the world to find a place where the powerful oppress the poor, and where corruption breeds poverty. You don't have to travel to the far side of the world to find tragedy being written in people's lives and in the land. You can get in your car and drive there in less than six hours. Thirty Americans were arrested in West Virginia this week, while protesting a mountaintop removal mine that leaves millions of gallons of sludge hanging above an elementary school. Last week, fourteen others were arrested protesting at another mine. Both mines were owned by a company whose CEO took one state supreme court judge to the Rivera, and who spent more than three million dollars on another hand-picked ‘justice.’"

Contributing Editor DarkSyde declared that CBS Had Jumped a Whale Shark: "Just for starters, the contrarian report that CBS accuses the EPA of 'suppressing' revives the old zombie lie that a warming sun is to blame for global warming, except when it's not, then the earth is actually cooling. There’s no need to point out that the sun, the most studied object in the universe after earth itself, shows no signs of doing anything of the sort, nor is there any point in presenting data showing unequivocally that the earth is not cooling unless one conveniently cherry picks an interval right after the hottest year on record. Because -- now follow along Republican boys and girls --  the sun can’t be the cause of global warming on a cooling earth. The rest of the so-called suppressed report is just as bad if not worse. Excluding nonsense heavily plagiarized from energy industry front groups is not an example of suppression. It’s an example of rightful rejection."

leftyparent gave us some insight into The Politics of Walking (or Another One Rides the Bus): "To leave your starting point with only your feet (and possibly good walking shoes) below you and arrive at your destination the same way is a profound political commitment to sustained human evolution and balanced life on earth.  (Of course there is also that marvelous feat of technology, that human-powered vehicle the bicycle, but that’s a subject for another post!)"

Green Jobs Hold Promise for Rural America wrote RDemocrat: "Despite the Corporate doomsayers our economy and working Americans could benefit from this transition to the fuels and jobs of the future. It just so happens too that those same doomsayers are the ones who have waged constant war on American workers: Since 2000, 3 million manufacturing jobs have been lost and corporations have shipped more than 525,000 white-collar jobs overseas. At the same time, energy costs are skyrocketing. A bold plan is needed to revitalize the American economy and lessen our energy needs."

The Overnight News Digest: Science Saturday was all green when Neon Vincent wrote it, and Oke also focused a lot of attention on the environment in  Overnight News Digest-DKGreenroots-Ole Man River And The Big Muddy.

In a DK GreenRoots-tagged diary, wide eyed lib talked about the ethics of Free Food Foraging for Herbs: "When you think about foraging, what comes to mind? For some, the first thought is of selfish, uncaring harvesters of plants and fungi, the kind of people who: 1. harvest plants on private property without permission; or 2. rake up virgin forest duff in order to get every last mushroom; or 3. imperil the general area through their gathering methods; or 4. severely endanger native populations of plants like wild ginseng. From my perspective, anyone who commits such acts is not deserving of the name 'forager'; such a person is merely a thief or irresponsible profiteer.

oilpolicy pointed out that the First EIA report under President Obama predicts major American lifestyle change: "Since the Energy Information Agency releases its International Energy Outlook 2009 mostly as statistics, you will have to follow through some math below to understand what is up.  I became aware of the new report being radically different from a story by jsmyers that linked in It's Official--The Era of Cheap Oil Is Over."

dsteffen provided a lesson in green history with DK GreenRoots - How Regulation came to be: Donora: "About twenty-five miles upriver of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, the Monongahela River makes a sweeping horseshoe bend.  Nestled in the horseshoe on the west bank or the river is the town of Donora, surrounded by a ring of 400-foot-tall hills  and river bluffs that form a bowl around the town. Bowls are made to hold things.  For five suffocating days at the end of October, 1948, the topological bowl around Donora did just that. ...The  U.S. Steel Corporation's Donora Zinc Works and its American Steel & Wire plant employed thousands of Monongahela Valley residents, bringing good jobs and comfortable incomes to the local population.  In exchange, the residents of Donora and surrounding towns were willing to live with the yellow clouds laden with sulfur dioxide and other contaminants that belched from the plants.  As a veteran of the disaster, Bill Schempp, said years later, "That's the way it was here. It was a normal way of life."

ids opined that Washington Enviro groups like LCV hurt progressive movement: "The progressive movement is stymied by Washington based environmental groups such as the League of Conservation Voters (LCV).  A look at a 2008 House race Kos spent precious resources on (and lost) to last week's House passage of ACES shows it is true."

A Siegel looked into who is Opposing ACES via Deception ... the Putnam example: "While there are quite serious issues to consider in how the Waxman-Markey American Clean Energy and Security (ACES) Act was weakened leading to its passage Friday and serious issues about whether this is the bill that is required, the vast majority of the opposition to the bill relied on deceit and deception.  In part, Representative Lloyd Doggett's decision to flip his vote from no to yes came based on listening to floor statements by card-carrying members of the Global Warming denial wing of the Flat Earth Society. The misrepresentation of ACES comes not only in terms of demonstrated anti-science syndrome suffering, but also from misrepresenting the bill's impacts and priorities."

mogmaar spent some time in actions in the run-up to Friday's Climate Vote: "So by the time I left the Capitol, I had participated in two actions, led a team of young people in green shirts through the Capitol to remind reps of where the youth stand (in favor of a STRONG climate bill) and then sat in the gallery for an hour with 40 youth leaders watching the circus that is Congress. I anxiously watched those votes come up on the basketball-style scoreboard, as the Yea's were at 185, and then 204, and then 209, and then 214, and then 217, 218, and finally 219.  And that was it, one of the most powerful assemblies in the world had just voted to reduce emissions in the United States --a truly historic achievement.  But I couldn't celebrate at all, because no matter how historic this event was, it is not based on science, it is not a measure that seeks to urgently safeguard the most vulnerable people in this country and this world.  And it is not a bill that moves us directly or boldly towards a clean energy economy."

Zwoof rolled his eyes at the thought that Now it's "Cleaner" Coal?: "Why has it now become ‘cleaner coal,’ when before it was ‘clean coal’? Because...
There is no such thing as clean coal. People in East Liverpool, Ohio remember Robert M. Sussman. He's the guy that allowed the world's largest toxic waste incineration to be operated next door to their elementary school when he worked for Clinton's EPA. At the time he was a lawyer for the Chemical Industry. Now Sussman is advising Obama on Clean(er) Coal. Something doesn't quite smell right here."

billlaurelMD provided us with an update in DKos GreenRoots: News from the Arctic:  29 June 2009: "Current Condition of N Hemisphere Sea Ice. The data presented here are through 27 June. Previous diaries talked about a data problem resulting from intermittent failure of the satellite sensing the ice cover, and how it was resolved by merging its data with those from a new satellite that had been launched previously. A time series of N Hemisphere sea ice extent (sea ice coverage of 15% or more) is shown below. The 1979-2000 mean is bold solid gray, the 2007 record minimum melt season is dashed green, and the current season is solid blue."

We Need a Department of Sustainable Fisheries declared akmk: "With heavy lobbying to reclassify hydro-power as "renwable energy" and to seek funding for hydro-power projects "without restriction" and with the Supreme Court deciding it's okay for the Army Corp of Engineers to call mine tailings ‘fill’ and dump such tailings into lakes supporting wild fish (Kensington Mine case), we're reminded that wild fish stocks in the United States are all but lost and the importance of wild fish as a source of healthy, affordable food, all but forgotten.In Alaska currently, the last homeland of wild salmon in the U.S., the pressure to make money off of hydro-power at the expense of sustainable wild fish stocks is relentless. Would a Department of Sustainable Fisheries help remind those in power that people can't eat money and people can't eat gold, but people can eat wild fish? The protection of wild fish stocks needs to be given a higher priority among legislators and policy makers."

possum devoted his regular diary to DK GreenRoots:  Science Tidbits.

And beach babe in fl devoted hers to  DK GreenRoots - Maccas Meatless Monday Action Diary: "I have promised an Action Diary and I will deliver.  It does not involve calling your reps or staking out a corner with a sign. It involves something very simple reducing your intake of meat. See the impact that you can haveby going meatless at least one day a week."

And djtyg added an environmental note to his in DK Greenroots: Labor Diary Rescue 6/29/09: "The Blue Green Alliance is an organization made up of several labor and environmental organizations, including the Sierra Club, SEIU, United Steel Workers, the National Resources Defense Council, and the Communication Workers of America.  The goal of the Blue Green Alliance is to get legislation passed that will not only provide good paying ‘green collar’ jobs such as alternative energy production and high speed light rail, but will also fight for workers through passage of the Employee Free Choice Act and creating fair trade policies. If you're an environmentalist, a labor activist, or both, please go to and sign up for their mailing list."

The long-running series, Got a Happy Story?, was transformed into the DK GreenRoots Edition by Eddie C: "To join the week long celebration called DK GreenRoots tonight's diary is an environmental happy story. It is a story of an advancement for the food movement, a story about heightened awareness going out to the public about how much gasoline and diesel we put into the atmosphere trucking food all over the nation, all over the world. Often times progressive movements seem isolated but when The New York Botanical Gardens seems to be getting it about the advantages of eating local food, when the leading horticultural education institute in the western hemisphere seems to get it, it just seems like many more Americans are about to get it."

sarahnity listed who’s written with a green tinge in DK GreenRoots: Books by Kossacks.

rperks gave us the skinny on the EPA’s Disclosure of the Location of 44 Hazardous Coal Ash Sites: "After pressure by NRDC and others, today the Environmental Protection Agency just released the list of 44 "high hazard" coal ash disposal sites around the nation.  At the behest of the Department of Homeland Security, the EPA had initially refused to reveal the location of these dangerous dumps, prompting NRDC and our partners to file a Freedom of Information Request in the public interest."

JekyllnHyde added some green to The Week in Editorial Cartoons.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 10:31 PM PDT.

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  •  If you can't find something scintillating ... (25+ / 0-)

    ...infuriating or inspiring to read in that collection, we need to have a talk.

    Some people would be better off not reading diaries they comment on, since they already have all the answers.

    by Meteor Blades on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 10:35:39 PM PDT

    •  Problems vs. Solutions. (7+ / 0-)

      That is where I am at.  I am so tired of being afraid of global warming.......I want to know how to combat it.

      I am on the gulf coast and we are living global warming.

      Tell me how to combat it, please.

      Thank you.


      If you can't fix it with a hammer, then you've got an electrical problem.

      by panicbean on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 10:41:07 PM PDT

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      •  Well (7+ / 0-)

        The new climate bill sure won't combat it.

        Maybe we all have to take it upon ourselves to do so.

        •  Oh me. (1+ / 0-)
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          Pinko Elephant

          Can you believe the state of our opinions?  :)

          I am not laughing, tho.  We are well and truly fucked if we do not address the hows instead of the whys.

          I am tired.  Thanks, PP.

          I hope you are feeling better?  I will keep you in my thoughts.


          If you can't fix it with a hammer, then you've got an electrical problem.

          by panicbean on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 10:46:52 PM PDT

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      •  Three diarists above discuss ... (8+ / 0-)

        ...that in various ways: kindler, jillian and webuyitgreen. Of course, like everyone with an answer - from nuclear power plant advocates to people who want to go vegan so we can stop raising cattle - nobody has a silver bullet.

        Some people would be better off not reading diaries they comment on, since they already have all the answers.

        by Meteor Blades on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 10:45:10 PM PDT

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      •  "The solutions are all out there in Nature, we (4+ / 0-)

        just need to bring them into our lives."
        David Suzuki, the 11th Hour movie, narrated by Leo Di Caprio.

        Of course there are sustainable alternatives to achieve everything we do. Finding these should be our goal, as it is mine, for the rest of our lives. It would be a legacy we could be proud of if we could set humanity on this course.

        Not just green jobs, but sustainable green jobs.

        BTW reat concept MB, C U at NN09.

        "In our every deliberation, we must consider the impact of our decisions on the next seven generations." Law of the Iroquois Confederacy

        by Unenergy on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 10:46:40 PM PDT

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      •  Solar panels and a garden (5+ / 0-)

        Do you own a home?  Put some solar panels on the roof.  Look up local contractors, and the process is one common enough today that you can even find ones who specialize in it.  Good place socially to put your money, if you ask me.  Many states even give tax breaks or let you qualify for low interest loans to pay for the procedure.  Not to mention it's an investment that in time pays for itself.

        In the meantime, plant a vegetable garden.  It'll get you outside, give yous something hands-on to do with your property, and if I say so, few meals are as satisfying as ones with ingredients that come, literally, from right in your back yard.  Normally it would be a bit late to start planting, but you probably have a longer growing season on the gulf coast than I have in NJ.  Go to your local big chain hardware store, you can get everything you need including both tools and started plants.

        •  The myriad of shit that I have to choose (4+ / 0-)

          from is amazing.  As a skeptic of all things unknown, I wonder just how much any of this will actually work.

          We, as individuals, have multiple choices when it comes to how green we can choose to be.  What we need to focus on is the business groups.  They are the ones who are freaking killing us.

          And our own elected officials allow this to happen over and over again,

          If you can't fix it with a hammer, then you've got an electrical problem.

          by panicbean on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 10:56:35 PM PDT

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        •  And don't just think solar photovoltaics ... (3+ / 0-)
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          ...which, even with incentives, are an expensive buy. If you can afford them and have a place to put them, go for it. But if you're pinched financially, solar thermal panels to heat your water (or reduce the amount of gas or electricity you need to heat that water) are a cheap, efficient way to reduce your power costs and your carbon footprint.

          Some people would be better off not reading diaries they comment on, since they already have all the answers.

          by Meteor Blades on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 11:05:56 PM PDT

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        •  We had pool solar panels. (1+ / 0-)
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          Racoons running around on our roof tore them up, a total loss.  When I called the local wildlife museum for help, they got pissy because I had the nerve to want to keep racoons off my roof.  Poor things.

          We'd like to be able to replace them (the solar panels, not the racoons), but can't until we can figure out how to protect them.  And, no, we cannot remove the fences that abut the house and provide the racoon highway.   Anybody got any other ideas that won't kill or harm the critters?

          •  Can you block their roof access? (1+ / 0-)
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            Maybe there are ways you can prevent them from gettin up there. Rather than remove the fences, could you put something high and slippery between the top of the fence and your roof? I'm thinking a metal sheet might work.

            "If I understand the GOP, goverment is bloated, wasteful and inefficient. And private insurance companies can't compete with that." --Malacandra tweet, 6/24/09

            by wide eyed lib on Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 07:03:05 AM PDT

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      •  are you a member of DK GreenRoots? (4+ / 0-)

        Because eco-advocacy and problem solving is part of that advocacy.

        There was a very good chat in my diary that MB rescued. people here are energized and ready to go, to work in teams to accomplish real change.

        Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Mohandas K. Gandhi

        by Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 11:08:15 PM PDT

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        •  If you are talking to me, PDNC, (5+ / 0-)

          then no I am not.

          But sitting here pondering on my back porch I was trying to think of a way that I could make a small difference in my own back yard and I came upon this:

          How about if DK GreenRoots had a website that we could all go to download different media, such as fliers or DVD's,  whatever we think we need to do to include as well as educate our neighbors as well as our constituents.

          Well, it is one small thing I thought of as I listened to my neighbors sprinklers kick on, just after we have had a good rain.

          You are an inspiration, all of you are.  


          If you can't fix it with a hammer, then you've got an electrical problem.

          by panicbean on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 11:14:38 PM PDT

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          •  i think that's great idea (5+ / 0-)

            one of the purposes of DK GreenRoots is to provide a forum where we can discuss ideas like yours, and implement them.

            one problem is what you identified, many don't know what they can do. if we can provide a flyer that people can download from online AND perhaps also distribute in our local communities, ...well, as obama says, change starts one person at a time. :)

            Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Mohandas K. Gandhi

            by Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 11:22:15 PM PDT

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            •  Any small way that I can contibute means (2+ / 0-)

              the world to me, literally.  My neighbors sprinklers go off on a timer system, regardless if we have had rain or not.  My question is, why?

              Granted we have wells of our own, but they link to the underground aquifer in Florida, and there will come a day when the water will no longer we there.

              I prefer that day not be while I am walking, living, and breathing.

              Keep me updated on your progress, PDNC.  You, all of you, are the ones who are going to change our world.  One small step at a time.

              Be well.


              If you can't fix it with a hammer, then you've got an electrical problem.

              by panicbean on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 11:30:59 PM PDT

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            •  PDNC are you planning on making this a part of (2+ / 0-)

              It is the reason I am coming over.
              In my mind at least, I have cleared the decks because the push needs to start now to get Hopenhagen over the line with as much substance and grassroots support as possible.
              So for me, nothing else matters for the next 6 months, possibly year.

              "In our every deliberation, we must consider the impact of our decisions on the next seven generations." Law of the Iroquois Confederacy

              by Unenergy on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 11:52:07 PM PDT

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              •  climate change already on agenda for nno9 (2+ / 0-)
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                A Warming Web: The Blogosphere and Climate Change
                Date TBD

                Global warming blogging is red hot: The Senate is debating climate change legislation. The Obama administration is pouring billions of dollars into clean energy and green jobs. Countries are maneuvering for position in this December's crucial international climate treaty conference. And nearly every week scientists are revealing how global warming is changing the conditions of life on Earth -- and how much worse conditions may become if we don't slash our greenhouse gas pollution. At this panel, some of the top bloggers covering environmental politics and climate science will talk about what they do, how they do it, and why it's more important now than ever before.
                PANELISTS: EmilyGertz , Gavin Schmidt, Kate Sheppard, David Roberts, Tim Lange

                and another related panel:

                Science Denial and Science Policy
                Date TBD

                Science is increasingly vital to policymaking, but denial of basic aspects of science is increasingly well-organized, holding back science-based policies. Whether it's creationism attacking state and local education policy, global warming denial distracting attention from the need for effective solutions, or anti-vaccine activism undermining vital public health programs, the public's misunderstanding about science have dire consequences for society. Non-scientists and scientists alike are joining to defend science and to clear the ground for science-based policies. This panel of scientists and scientific policymakers will discuss ways that the general public can ensure that their government is informed by honest science.
                PANELISTS: Joshua Rosenau, Bryan Rehm, Michael Stebbins, Joseph Romm, Mark Sumner, Susan Wood

                Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Mohandas K. Gandhi

                by Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse on Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 12:08:28 AM PDT

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                •  Solution based discussion may be something I can (2+ / 0-)

                  help with.
                  As I said, I know enough to say unequivocally we have a genuine problem with respect to the damage our dependence on fossil fuels for energy causes not just environmentally, politically, economically and militarily, but it boils right down to how we value people and treat each other.
                  All this has to change.

                  If we have better ways (read sustainable ways)to do the things which keep us in jobs, economies operating, energy being produced, then we need to not only get the ideas out there, but find a way to get people to rally behind them.

                  I have an idea how.....

                  "In our every deliberation, we must consider the impact of our decisions on the next seven generations." Law of the Iroquois Confederacy

                  by Unenergy on Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 12:19:50 AM PDT

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                  •  "how we value people and treat each other" (2+ / 0-)
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                    panicbean, Unenergy

                    and sustainability for future generations is really key.

                    so, what's with the cliff hanger? :)

                    Will you be writing diary? creating a working group over at DK GreenRoots?

                    Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Mohandas K. Gandhi

                    by Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse on Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 12:34:55 AM PDT

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                    •  A little bit of the diary writing and possibly (2+ / 0-)

                      now that you have launched this Greenroots inititiave, I will think about a working group.

                      But I have been working with my neighbour on something with enormous potential which may help achieve good things.

                      Its pretty exciting and hopefully this will rub off on a few other people if they can understand what potential it has.
                      But I have to keep quiet for the time being.
                      Will be writing more later in the month after we have tested the platform a little longer.

                      "In our every deliberation, we must consider the impact of our decisions on the next seven generations." Law of the Iroquois Confederacy

                      by Unenergy on Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 12:42:41 AM PDT

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    •  This place has gone done since about midnight (4+ / 0-)

      Eastern, its weird, its just gone quiet, too quiet.

      "Polls are like crack, political activists know they're bad for them but they read them anyways."-Unknown

      by skywaker9 on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 10:41:30 PM PDT

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    •  I wish I could be inspired. I just don't feel it. (2+ / 0-)
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      Pinko Elephant, Unenergy

      Thanks for the shout out to Johnny Rook though.

      Extreme Republican Evangelical Elitism is destroying America

      by shpilk on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 10:50:13 PM PDT

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    •  thanks for asking me to do DK GreenRoots w/you! (2+ / 0-)
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      Pinko Elephant, RJP9999

      It's such an exciting project.

      GDR is just bursting with excellent eco diaries! Just in the past two days of eco week, each one has been stellar. We have the most talented bloggers here at DK.

      Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Mohandas K. Gandhi

      by Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 11:05:12 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  A green session comes to a close in OR (9+ / 0-)

    The 2009 OR Legislature, which adjourned tonight, will be remembered for many things and its story has yet to be fully written (thanks to a possible referral of two tax measures) but it certainly was a friend to the environment.

    Among other things:

    Banning field burning.
    Creating a loan program to help finance renovations that will increase home-owner energy efficiency.
    Tougher pollution limits on coal plants
    A historic water management package
    And then there was HB 3258 which will protect the Metolius River Basin, an Oregon treasure, for future generations. It would declare the area an "Area of Critical State Concern" and allow a limited amount of development in the basin. The Metolius River is a federally designated wild and scenic river, emerging from a spring and providing America’s best habitat for the endangered bull trout.

    "Polls are like crack, political activists know they're bad for them but they read them anyways."-Unknown

    by skywaker9 on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 10:39:27 PM PDT

  •  Apologizing (3+ / 0-)

    I have a question.  What does it mean when you're "apologizing" for something/someone?  They say this over at RedState all the time but I've never had a handle on what they're going for.  It usually pops up as an attack for someone who posits or defends a standpoint they disagree with.

  •  Oregon's green economy crests 50k jobs (6+ / 0-)

    Link: Employers expect to add more ‘green’ jobs by 2010


    Oregon Employment Department’s "Greening of Oregon’s Work force: Jobs, Wages and Training," reported that the state had 51,402 jobs in energy efficiency or renewable projects and a handful of other environmentally related fields. That accounted for about 3 percent of the state’s total employment.

    By 2010, employers say they’ll add about 14 percent more green jobs, according to the state report.

    "Polls are like crack, political activists know they're bad for them but they read them anyways."-Unknown

    by skywaker9 on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 10:41:03 PM PDT

  •  going to read it in the morning. thanks for then (4+ / 0-)

    new group, and g'nite.

  •  Moroccan papers fined for 'attacks' on Gaddafi! (3+ / 0-)
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    skywaker9, Nulwee, JML9999


    Three newspapers were ordered by a Moroccan court to pay Libya a total of 3 million dirhams ($372,300) in damages on Monday for defaming its leader Muammar Gaddafi.

    The papers were also fined 100,000 dirhams ($12,410) each for "attacks on the character and the dignity of a head of state", Moroccan official news agency MAP reported.

    Gaddafi (a guy that accused doctors and nurses of infecting hospitalized Libyan children with AIDS on purpose) has dignity?

    "The heresy of individualism: thinking oneself a completely self-sufficient unit and asserting this imaginary `unity' against all others" Thomas Merton

    by Pinko Elephant on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 10:44:25 PM PDT

  •  I wish I had good news to report, but it (2+ / 0-)
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    Pinko Elephant, cumberland sibyl

    appears that whatever slim chance we had of stopping the madness of burning this planet up are about gone.

    That's all.

    Time to go and head home, find a stiff drink and try to sleep.

    Extreme Republican Evangelical Elitism is destroying America

    by shpilk on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 10:48:31 PM PDT

  •  small successes (7+ / 0-)

    two year program in Oklahoma to train wind energy technicians. if they covered these kids in droogie country before i missed it. Wildcatters children are in this program and this started last year before the election. take that inhofe.

    Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices--François-Marie Arouet

    by CA Berkeley WV on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 10:49:19 PM PDT

  •  YAO-OWCH! (2+ / 0-)
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    Pinko Elephant, JML9999

    Link: Reports: Yao could miss next season


    The Houston Rockets already said that Yao Ming's recovery from a broken foot was behind schedule, but that setback might now cost him all of next season or worse.

    "At this point, the injury has the potential for him missing this next season and could be career threatening," team physician Tom Clanton said, according to the Houston Chronicle. "One of the things we are trying to get is a consensus opinion on that, to make certain there is no option we are overlooking that would provide an earlier return or would be an option for treatment that he would prefer rather than doing additional surgery."

    "Polls are like crack, political activists know they're bad for them but they read them anyways."-Unknown

    by skywaker9 on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 10:49:40 PM PDT

  •  100 Diaries a day (2+ / 0-)
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    Purple Priestess, Unenergy

    Do you think anyone else reads that many?

    Insurance, Oil, Banking, and Defense corporations all have a substantial equity positions in what's supposed to be our Congress.

    by Lefty Coaster on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 11:20:37 PM PDT

  •  McLaughlin Group Goes Green Endorses Pot (3+ / 0-)
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    JML9999, Purple Priestess, RJP9999

    Who would of ever thought ?

    Grow Marijuana go to Prison, Torture a Detainee to Death and earn a Medal. No wonder people get high.

    by SmileySam on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 11:27:10 PM PDT

  •  Patriotic news... (1+ / 0-)
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    has become a must read for me. There are only 3 or 4 people here who are like that for me. I see the UID and know that even if I disagree they will make me think long and hard about that issue.

  •  Bizarre Ultra-Violent Vacations at Sea? (2+ / 0-)
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    Troubadour, RJP9999

    Russian yachts to offer "pirate hunting" cruises off Somali coast

    According to several news sources, Russian yacht owners will begin offering "pirate hunting" vacations to those interested in wielding AK-47's and shooting at pirates off the coast of Somalia.

    Truth is stranger than fiction.

    Insurance, Oil, Banking, and Defense corporations all have a substantial equity positions in what's supposed to be our Congress.

    by Lefty Coaster on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 11:37:29 PM PDT

    •  Fairer odds than deer hunting. (1+ / 0-)
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      And whoever wins, trash of one sort or another is taken out.

      "Water can flow, or it can crash. Be water, my friend." -Bruce Lee

      by Troubadour on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 11:46:31 PM PDT

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      •  Not for Somali fishermen (1+ / 0-)
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        Meteor Blades

        Insurance, Oil, Banking, and Defense corporations all have a substantial equity positions in what's supposed to be our Congress.

        by Lefty Coaster on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 11:47:46 PM PDT

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        •  There is that danger (0+ / 0-)

          that, not finding pirates, some of these psychotic rich people will just decide to start shooting up fishing boats.  On the other hand, that would be a stupid move on the part of the venture organizers for numerous reasons.  More likely, if the people organizing it aren't complete muppets, they would hire or lure pirates into the area and ambush them.

          "Water can flow, or it can crash. Be water, my friend." -Bruce Lee

          by Troubadour on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 11:58:13 PM PDT

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  •  Uranium has been discovered on the Moon. (0+ / 0-)

    It was detected by the Japanese Kaguya spacecraft.

    "Water can flow, or it can crash. Be water, my friend." -Bruce Lee

    by Troubadour on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 11:39:28 PM PDT

    •  I would imagine that every element (1+ / 0-)
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      is to be found on the moon, being a former part of earth and nearly as old as the solar system and the product of ancient dying stars or some other such fusion process. The article doesn't seem to indicate if it's found in significant and easy enough to find and mine quantities to be worth the effort and expense. Does it come in yellowcake form?

      Fox Nauseam Delenda Est

      by kovie on Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 02:14:33 AM PDT

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      •  This is surface mapping. (1+ / 0-)
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        It was far from obvious what elements would be found near the surface or in what abundances.  My not-quite-amateur guess: Greater density of uranium on the Moon, since Earth's tectonic activity would tend to bring heavier elements down toward the core over time, while the Moon solidified from the inside out.  On the bright side, if uranium is relatively abundant, the Moon is one place where there would be absolutely no rational objection to nuclear fission power - the natural environment is often bombarded with more particle flux than radioactive waste gives off.

        "Water can flow, or it can crash. Be water, my friend." -Bruce Lee

        by Troubadour on Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 02:50:11 AM PDT

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        •  I guess that I was more surprised (1+ / 0-)
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          that there would be any surpise that uranium would be found on the moon, when it would be much more surprising if none were found. But perhaps the real revelation here isn't that it was found, but that it was found on the surface, which is rare on earth from what I understand. So I'm basically saying what you're saying.

          I guess the real questions are how abundant it is on or near the surface, and in what form it exists, in terms of its potential for use in a moon-based reactor and how much processing and refining it would require to be usable in a reactor. Plus, what would be involved in establishing a useful reactor on the moon, in terms of bringing some parts from earth, and building the rest on the moon? If it was steam-based, where would sufficient quantities of water come from? Are there non-steam-based reactors? And given how much solar energy falls on the moon, would it even make sense to build a reactor, given its complexity and costs (and even dangers) compared to solar arrays?

          Fox Nauseam Delenda Est

          by kovie on Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 03:19:02 AM PDT

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          •  Solar + storage is definitely the long-term (0+ / 0-)

            solution, given its relative simplicity, at least until fusion is practical.  And it's clearly the way to go for initial exploration.  But my guess is that the stages between pioneering and full-fledged cities will be fission-powered.

            There are technical challenges - it's not a direct matter of taking nuclear plant equipment from Earth to the Moon.  Particularly, the reactor has to be radiatively cooled - water would likely be far too precious to let boil off into space for cooling.  But there are also advantages to being on the Moon: With no air or liquid water in the outside environment, containment is trivial - just build the reactor a few meters underground.  If containment is what?  It might interfere with unshielded electronics nearby (something you're unlikely to have on the Moon), but there's no contamination once you re-seal the breach.  

            "Water can flow, or it can crash. Be water, my friend." -Bruce Lee

            by Troubadour on Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 01:20:14 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

  •  Cheney endorses Gay Marriage (0+ / 0-)

    Cheney: Same-sex marriage is OK

    The stone walls against sexual preference discrimination in America are crumbling, as conservative former Vice President Dick Cheney on Monday gave his secular blessing to same-sex marriage.

    Insurance, Oil, Banking, and Defense corporations all have a substantial equity positions in what's supposed to be our Congress.

    by Lefty Coaster on Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 12:09:44 AM PDT

  •  About Ricci... (0+ / 0-)

    Not only was Monday's ruling a clear example of conservative judicial activism, in basically overturning a 45 year old law that has been upheld repeatedly over the years, but wasn't SCOTUS's merely agreeing to hear this case itself an act of judicial activism, since, I would imagine (not being a lawyer), that SCOTUS only tends to agree to hear a case when it sees a potential problem with an appelate ruling, and in this case, there was, from what I understand, anything particularly unusual about it compared to similar cases brought forth over the years?

    Funny, I always thought that conservatives were all about how if you don't like a law, you get congress to repeal or rewrite it, but the courts don't get to strike down laws simply because they don't like them, unless they're also unconstitutional. So wasn't this not only a ruling that went completely against this mantra, and thus the very model of judicial activism, but a chickenshit one at that, since they didn't even have the guts to strike down Title VII, let alone the Civil Rights Act. Pok pok pok...

    Are we literally going to have to wait until one of those hosebags keels over or is seen wandering the halls of SCOTUS in their oh so apropos tighty whities?

    Fox Nauseam Delenda Est

    by kovie on Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 02:09:56 AM PDT

  •  Well (0+ / 0-)

    unless they spend the whole day, skim them and don't read comments. Where's the fun in that?

    As long as prejudice exists in this country - in this world - we are all its victims. ~~ Keith Olbermann

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