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I think my IQ went down about 50 points after reading this story, but apparently some Latino leaders are urging undocumented immigrants and others to boycott the 2010 Census as a protest against Congress' failure to pass comprehensive immigration reform.

http://online.wsj.com/...

[Latino leaders] Messrs. Rivera and Lopez say they are frustrated with Congress's inaction on a comprehensive immigration overhaul and alleged injustices toward undocumented members of the Latino community. By being counted, they say, undocumented immigrants are being used to get funding for federal programs for which many of them aren't eligible.

"I hope members of Congress will also sit down and look at these numbers [of potential boycotters] and say 'Hey, this is really serious,' " Mr. Rivera said. "That means they have to fix [immigration policy]."

http://online.wsj.com/...

I don't think I'm being dismissive in stating that this is obviously counterproductive. The Census count is used to determine representation in Congress, and if fewer people are counted in areas with large populations of undocumented immigrants, then those Congressional seats will be reallocated to places that do not. Similarly, federal funds that might have gone to ameliorate problems in areas with large numbers of undocumented immigrants will be similarly reallocated to other areas of the country that do not.

Fortunately, there are cooler heads in the Latino community who see this:

The boycott effort is also raising the ire of Latino groups, including the National Association of Latino Elected Officials. Arturo Vargas, the organization's executive director and the acting vice chairman of the government's 2010 Census Advisory Committee, called it "irresponsible" and said the undercount "is permanent for a decade."

"The irony is that the enemies of immigration reform, this is what they want," Mr. Vargas said. "They don't want these people counted."

http://online.wsj.com/...

But, hey, I guess they will have made their point, right?

Originally posted to pragprogress on Mon Jul 13, 2009 at 06:48 PM PDT.

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  •  Guarantee that is a Republican Shill Organization (3+ / 0-)
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    akeitz, LordMike, frankzappatista

    Dollars to Doughnuts

    "Republicans drove the country into a ditch and now they are complaining about the cost of the tow truck"-Jim Cornette

    by justmy2 on Mon Jul 13, 2009 at 07:01:32 PM PDT

  •  Besides the stupidity, (0+ / 0-)

    do undocumented workers get counted anyway?

    This is the change I voted for; I was paying attention were you?

    by IL JimP on Mon Jul 13, 2009 at 07:05:40 PM PDT

  •  Does this mean (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    LordMike, frankzappatista

    That Michelle Bachmann is an illegal immigrant?  Where's her birth certificate?  Guadalajara?

    From whatever angle you approach it, the present offers no way out. This is not the least of its virtues. ~ The Coming Insurrection

    by ActivistGuy on Mon Jul 13, 2009 at 07:09:26 PM PDT

  •  So what is the point of this diary? (1+ / 0-)
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    canyonrat

    A google search shows articles going back to April on this.  There is some dissension in the ranks of the Latino coummunity.  So?  We have dissension in the ranks of dkos and the Dem. Party too.

    You display an article from 2 weeks ago that says some people this and other people say that.  So what did this diary accomplish exactly?

    "Go well through life"-Me (As far as I know)

    by MTmofo on Mon Jul 13, 2009 at 07:24:41 PM PDT

    •  Well I heard about it for the first time (2+ / 0-)
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      NYCee, MTmofo

      on NPR today, the link was just whatever popped up on Google.

      In any event, other than the timeliness factor, couldn't this be said about most diaries on DKos:

      You display an article . . . that says some people this and other people say that.

      According to the article, there are already a million people pledged to do this. I'm pretty sure that to the extent that they understand what they'd really be doing, they would not do that, and this would benefit Dem's because seats would be reapportioned to Democratic areas, so I think more discussion about this in Democratic circles is warranted.

      •  I think the Latino community will probably (0+ / 0-)

        get those calling for a kneejerk boycott into line with some education and discussion, and arm-twisting if need be.

        But, I'm an Anglo, so what do I know?

        "Go well through life"-Me (As far as I know)

        by MTmofo on Mon Jul 13, 2009 at 07:49:54 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  What it accomplished? (3+ / 0-)
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      NYCee, CParis, MTmofo

      I for one was certainly unaware that this debate was ongoing in the Latino community.  It's called spreading information that may not be highlighted in the MSM.  The rec list tends to be clogged with regurgitation of MSM articles, and what does that accomplish?  Perhaps other things are allowed on the recent diaries list?

      From whatever angle you approach it, the present offers no way out. This is not the least of its virtues. ~ The Coming Insurrection

      by ActivistGuy on Mon Jul 13, 2009 at 07:45:54 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Of course other things are allowed on the recent (0+ / 0-)

        list.  I came away from this diary lacking any informational fulfillment, and said so.  That's allowed too, right?

        "Go well through life"-Me (As far as I know)

        by MTmofo on Mon Jul 13, 2009 at 07:57:09 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  This is a pretty silly miff... (1+ / 0-)
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      MTmofo

      it's a fine diary.

      Does everything have to be breaking to qualify?

      Does everyone have to be on the same side, or the author's intent is suspect? (You seem to be insinuating.)

      Tiempo, a local ABC show about Latino issues, Sunday am, just did their show on this topic this past Sunday.

      Should a "progressive" Dem blog dwell in the safe zones of a tame party, or should it drive a tame party to break out?

      by NYCee on Mon Jul 13, 2009 at 10:21:29 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  That's the problem with the term "latino" (0+ / 0-)

    here I'm thinking Puerto Ricans would not do that, and I was right.  This is an LA leader representing one group in his city but not sure which ethnic group.  Media needs to stop using that term or everytime one ethnic group has an issue we are all dragged into it as if we support or oppose the subject in question.

    •  Puerto Ricans have citizenship... of course not. (0+ / 0-)

      I see your point about all dragged in together, but it isnt just media who use it... activists, Latinos themselves use it... to media, who then uses it. I think it will sort out pretty quickly which Latino groups, in general, are calling for it, and even then, there are splits, it seems, within those groups.

      I would think there is a strong Mexican element, because they are the largest group of Latinos, most desperate for immigration reform.

      Should a "progressive" Dem blog dwell in the safe zones of a tame party, or should it drive a tame party to break out?

      by NYCee on Mon Jul 13, 2009 at 10:28:18 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Not exactly (0+ / 0-)

      There are two "leaders" calling for it. They happen to both be based in LA, but they are leaders of national groups -- one a "Latino" clergy group and the other a "Mexican" political association. It's also clear that not al Mexicans or Latinos in Los Angeles support this, so it's not a regional thing really. The fact that both of them happen to be based in LA is just a function of the fact that much of the national Latino leadership of all stripes is based in LA.

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