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Thus far I've only seen a trailer for it, but there is a new romatic comedy out that is getting good reviews. It's about a man with Asperger's syndrome who falls in love with his neighbor. It's called Adam. I'll be seeing it this weekend if I can.

Watching the trailer, I was immediately reminded of an incident in my own life which is directly mirrored by a scene in the trailer. The scene reflects an example of the literal interpretation that we Aspergers are subject to. It shows Adam's love interest telling him that she needs a hug. He just kind of stands there not knowing what to do. She then explicitly asks him for a hug, and then finally he responds appropriately.

Most people would probably find this overly dramatic. Nobody, not even an Asperger could be that dense could they? Well, uh actually...yeah it's plausible.

If you've ever wondered what goes through an Asperger's mind when something like this happens, well let me share with you a little story from my own life.

It was 1987, I had recently moved to the Washington DC area. Being a natural misfit with a musical gift, I found a measure of acceptance in DC's underground "hardcore" scene (for the uninitiated, that's a form of punk rock). I got a gig as a drummer in a local band which quickly found itself on the upswing within "the scene". I may not have been very good at dealing with people, but I could bang the skins like nobody's business. I quickly became kind of a rising star, if only at the local level.

Like many aspergers, when on the stage, I was in my element and was able to blossom to my full potential as a human being, albeit fleetingly. I became someone completely different than who I normally appeared to be. My natural shyness disappeared, and for a brief 45 minute period, I became a charismatic and compelling performer who gave his all in his art and his performance. The effect would last for a little while after the set as I basked in the glow of the accolades I would be receiving, and then back into my shell I would go.

As a member of a rising local act and even though I was awkward, shy, and at times abrasive due to my lack of "people skills", the DC alternative scene accepted me as I was. Probably the only time in my life that anyone ever had. I got to go to all the right parties and hang out with a lot of "cool" people, something I had never experienced before. I was part of the "in" crowd, which for a guy who had been an uber-nerd in high school seemed like paradise. In our little subculture, I was damn near the top of the heap, not under it as I had been as a teenager and even in college. I was a good looking and talented guy who absent a debilitating social disability would have been a natural "chick magnet", but because of the way I perceived the world, and frankly because of the way the world generally reacted to me, I lacked the self confidence and the social skills to exploit my new found status or my natural gifts.

One day, at one of these subculture parties I glimpsed an angel. A punk rock princess with semi-spiked bluish-black hair, dark red lipstick, too much eye makeup, and clad in a black leather biker jacket, ragged red plaid skirt, and torn fishnet stockings. The ultimate in punk rock chic, she was four feet and eleven inches of what for me was the loveliest vision to walk the Earth since Nancy Spungen. I asked someone who she was, Alicia was her name. I was hooked! I figured she was out of my league, but that didn't stop me from admiring her.

Alicia invaded not just my dreams but my every waking thought as I moved through the day. I had it bad, but my social awkwardness and low self esteem brought about by a lifetime of rejection prevented even the thought of ever approaching her.

As the months passed, I gradually allowed thoughts of Alicia to recede to the background as I continued to work through my boring but relatively good day job and my aspiring rock star night life as best I could. The infection was still there, but the fever had subsided enough for me to get on with life.

Then one day, a few months later, my band was invited to play at Alicia's birthday party. I believe it was arranged by her brother John with whom I had become friendly. I don't remember the details of how it started, but somehow I got to engage in conversation with Alicia. Alicia was intelligent, engaging, truly interested in her field of study and future career and had good solid liberal values. We really hit it off. We spent a glorious night together and both believed we were destined for something wonderful.

One night a short time later, I got a call at about midnight. It was Alicia's brother John. They were stranded downtown and needed a ride back to Hyattsville. I had to work the next day, but I got up and drove down to where I was supposed to meet them. There was nobody there, I looked around for a while but could not find anybody, I could not wait all night so I just went home.

After I got home the phone rang again, it was Alicia, they still needed the ride. By this time it must have been 1:30AM and I really could not afford to lose any more sleep. With frustration in my voice, I told her she would have to take a taxi, I just couldn't go.

Well, that was the end of our relationship. She probably thought I was being an insensitive prick or worse. The next time I spoke to her she made it clear it was over.

Like most aspergers, I'm fairly oblivious to many of the social interactions going on around me, and don't always have any idea how people perceive me. So I was completely unaware that there was some undercover matchmaking going on during this whole period. Evidently, someone, unbeknownst to me, had interceded on my behalf with Alicia.

I believe it was her brother, who may have felt a measure of responsibility for having created the incident which lead to the end of our too brief romance. In any case, Alicia for I think the first time, was visiting at a group house in Hyattsville where many of us hung out. We were playing board games, which can be very protracted and during a pizza run I found myself alone in my car with Alicia.

Alicia was approaching graduation day at the University of Maryland and was beginning to think about her life going foreward. She said that most of the guys she met in "the scene" were basically losers who weren't likley to ever do anything with their lives.

I at least had the reputation of if nothing else, having a decent day job and a sharp mind. Most people figured once the days of "scene hanging" were over I'd go on to something bigger and better. I also did not have the reputation of being a womanizer as did most of the other guys in my shoes. I was independent, I didn't live in my Mom's basement, wasn't hooked on drugs, and was rarely seen inebriated, but I still had a hint of the wild stallion in me as anyone who saw me perform would attest. None of that was mentioned explicitly but with this distance of time I'm pretty sure at least some portion of it was why we were having this conversation. I was a guy worth catching and hanging on to, and only Alicia ever really saw it.

Alicia then told me that she needed to find a guy who had a future and then she coyly asked if I knew where she could meet such a guy.

Well, here is where the Asperger's kicked in. I was completely clueless on how to respond. I could not for the life of me understand why she was asking me this. Applying all the logic I could muster I interpreted this at face value. Having already rejected me, she must have wanted to meet someone else, not me. It never occurred to me that what she really was doing was giving me another chance, that it was me she wanted. I didn't have a clue, so all I could say was, "uh, no...I don't".

At that point Alicia left my car and I never saw or heard from her again, and I don't blame her I guess. She must have felt embarrassed, rejected, perhaps even humiliated. But in fact, it was a matter of misunderstanding that haunts me even today. Were it not for my inability to understand social nuance, I would have reached over and given her a hug and a kiss and told her how I adored her, for that is how I really felt.

I've moved on with my life of course, I'm happily married with a wonderful family today. But before I met my spouse, I spent a good many years kicking myself after that, and it's one of too many examples of how this little communication problem really affects those of us who live even at the very upper edges of the autism spectrum.

Originally posted to Phil In Denver on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 05:47 AM PDT.

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  •  Great diary. My 18 year old son has Aspergers. (16+ / 0-)

    I ache for him as he navigates this world.  He starts college in a few days and I hope he finds more acceptance there than high school.  He is an honors student with no clue on how to interept the unwritten rules of life.  I try not to worry--he is refreshingly unique and I hope he meets someone that can see it too. He is the most genuine person I have ever known.

    "The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled." -Plutarch

    by DEQ54 on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 06:08:07 AM PDT

    •  He will meet with rejection sometimes (7+ / 0-)

      ... as we all do, I guess.  But eventually, people will come into his life who treasure his straightforwardness, and who enjoy the person that he is.

      There are many people out there who appreciate Aspies for who they are.  Your son will meet some of us in his life.

      "Demoncrats: May they wither away and may Lou Dobbs prosper."

      by Ms Bluezone on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 06:18:07 AM PDT

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    •  Ask for help from college (14+ / 0-)

      My daughter's freshman dorm RA held a session early in first semester to enlist their help in helping an autistic student learn the unwritten rules -- that instead of vague "hanging out" plans, they needed to be very specific about what and who and where and how. ("Joe, Karen and Larry and I are going to the spa at 7:00 to buy and eat pizza and we'd like you to come with us. It will cost about $10. Can I pick you up at your room at 6:45?") She said it was really helpful, so they didn't just assume he wasn't interested in going places.

      When you drop him off, ask to meet with the freshman dean's office or whoever, and ask their help. Roommates can also help a lot.

      My son doesn't have an Aspergers diagnosis, but had very poor social skills in high school. By Christmas of freshman year he was a new person -- still has some issues and misses a lot of cues, but he quickly found activities that interested him and used his other skills, and has done reasonably well ever since. I hope your son does well and finds new confidence.

      •  For all the talk of how cruel kids can be (12+ / 0-)

        I also have seen heroic acts of kindness.  For many kids, once they get on board with an idea like this -- making life easier for a classmate who struggles -- they can really run with it.

        This is a great suggestion.

        "Demoncrats: May they wither away and may Lou Dobbs prosper."

        by Ms Bluezone on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 06:20:56 AM PDT

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        •  We've seen this also (8+ / 0-)

          with our son Michael.  He'll be starting 2nd grade in several weeks.  In kindergarten and 1st grade, his class absolutely loved him.  In fact the girls in his class were a little bit too loving- that is they always rushed to help him out when the special ed teachers wanted him to do things on his own.  It really came down to the fact that the school personnel made the other kids aware of what was going on with Michael and that it wasn't anything to be considered weird.  

          I had the opportunity to observe him at a classmates birthday party a couple of months ago, and I saw how his classmates were very understanding of Michael and didn't make a big deal about his actions.  It really touched my heart.

          We're also incredibly lucky that his 1st grade teacher and virtually his whole class is moving up to 2nd grade along with Michael so he'll have many of the same kids in 2nd grade as he had in 1st.

          •  enjoy this time--kids this age are (0+ / 0-)

            thoughtful, compassionate, and sweet.  Things don't start to change for the worse until about 6th or 7th grade.  I wish kids could forever remain like 2nd graders.  

            I love my President! Who'da thought THAT was possible?

            by livjack on Wed Aug 12, 2009 at 05:39:37 PM PDT

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      •  How did you approach the freshman dean's (10+ / 0-)

        office?  Since your son didn't have an Aspergers diagnosis how did you alert them to his social difficulties and what exactly did they do to help?  I am asking because my 16 year-old son has similar social difficulties.  He is ADD (diagnosed in the 7th grade), and medication has made a huge difference, but he is also viewed as "weird" by many (including his older siblings, who nonetheless have grown to enjoy his company and do things with him.) He is extremely musical - plays euphonium in the symphonic band and jazz bands at school and has found his niche there - also self-taught on the piano (I was blown away when he played "Rhapsody in Blue" for us recently). All the same, ever since he was a toddler I sensed something wasn't quite right.  His pediatricians and teachers all dismissed it, I guess because he has always been bright and well-behaved (aside from the ADD which means he does a lot of day dreaming).  

        Also, Phil in Denver, how were you diagnosed?  At this late date in my son's life, I don't know if labeling him would help, but at the same time, I wonder what we can do to help him even more?

        A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit. -Greek proverb

        by marleycat on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 06:36:58 AM PDT

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    •  I'll tell you this (8+ / 0-)

      what worked well for me was finding people of like interests. For me that was the artists and musicians subculture, for your son it might be something closely related to what he is studying, could be something totally unrelated too.

      If he is really an Asperger, then he is bound to have some very strong interests, possibly something obscure like vacuum cleaner parts, which would be tough, or maybe a bit more understandable like stamp collecting or comic books.

      Whatever it is, he should identify it and then seek out events and activities featuring it. Then he will meet a lot of people of like interests with whom he may feel comfortable. It's amazing how much someone can blossom once in the right environment.

      "crush in it's birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government" -Thomas Jefferson

      by Phil In Denver on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 06:34:52 AM PDT

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    •  Two movies and a book (5+ / 0-)

      There was an article in the Lincoln Journal Star Sunday about the movies depicting people with Aspergers.  The article also mentioned a book citing twenty two rules for women married to a man with Aspergers that I look forward to reading as I have wondered about those relationships and how they 'work.'

      •  I just started reading one (7+ / 0-)

        Look Me in the Eye - a funny, occasionally heartbreaking and very informative memoir by John Elder Robison (older brother of author Augusten Burroughs, of Running With Scissors fame).

        Robison is very accomplished.  Among his skillset: creating exploding guitars for the rock band KISS, and owning/operating a specialty repair service for high-end autos. Fascinating guy. Not formally diagnosed until he was 40. Some of the interactions you describe, Phil, are very much like his.

        The suggestion of hooking up with a social circle of people interested/passionate about the things the person with Asperger's is - excellent advice. Real afficionados of a particular thing - whether it be anime or fantasy football league - can bore non-fans to tears, but even NT fans can dwell in minute detail in a way that will make someone with AS feel right at home.

    •  He might find (6+ / 0-)

      this book helpful: The Unwritten Rules of Social Relationships, by Temple Grandin and Sean Barron.  It's by two individuals with different types of autism.

      Evil is making the premedicated choice to be a dick -- Jason Stackhouse

      by Frankenoid on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 07:04:44 AM PDT

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    •  i often wonder why people do not (3+ / 0-)
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      just tell others what the situation is.

      if I had difficulty seeing, I would tell people so that if I passed them without saying hello they would know that perhaps I hadn't seen them.

      if I had difficulty hearing, I would tell people  so that if I did not respond to things they said they would know that perhaps I hadn't heard them.

      I know nothing about what Aspies face, and my ignorance led to some sad misunderstandings.  I have worked closely with a couple of people in the past only learning later what the challenge was, wishing I had had some guidance about how to make expected social behaviors more clear for them.

      If school officials and roommates can be given specific instructions and told specific ways to help, as suggested by rugbymom, then perhaps a lot of misunderstanding can be avoided before it starts.

      Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D.

      by TrueBlueMajority on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 08:49:41 AM PDT

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      •  That's easier said than done (4+ / 0-)

        at least in my case. I did not know that I was even on the autism spectrum. I did not learn of my diagnosis until I was in my 40's. I literally did not know what a social cue was, much less that I was missing them.

        So, at least in my case, it would never have occurred to me to tell anyone what the situation was. I didnt' even know there was a situation.

        "crush in it's birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government" -Thomas Jefferson

        by Phil In Denver on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 09:19:02 AM PDT

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        •  i understand it's different 4 undiagnosed adults (1+ / 0-)
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          I was talking about children going off to school when parents are already aware of a need for enlisting extra help from school officials and roommates.

          Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D.

          by TrueBlueMajority on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 11:38:47 AM PDT

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  •  Feminine "coyness" (16+ / 0-)

    Seems to me another factor here is that Alicia had obviously been trained that "feminine" means "never saying what you really mean." In fact, she said more or less the opposite of what she meant. That made your decoding job much harder than it needed to be. Even without the Aspergers, it would be hard to read those signals.

    I'm glad to hear that your story has a happy (so far) ending.

    •  Yeah. (1+ / 0-)
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      I don't see anything particularly "Aspie" about this. Shyness, yes. Phil lacked the confidence to ask her out; and Alicia, if she was indeed interested, lacked the confidence to ask him out.

      •  I guess you missed it (5+ / 0-)

        I had already asked her out and we had been dating. This is about the reconciliation attempt by her which I could not understand. I missed the social cues that most people would have understoon instinctively.

        She went to a great deal of effort to get me alone so that she could tell me she needed to find a guy just like me. How much more obvious does it have to be?

        I can see it now, but at the time it escaped me.

        "crush in it's birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government" -Thomas Jefferson

        by Phil In Denver on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 07:38:30 AM PDT

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  •  Thanks for telling your sweet story (8+ / 0-)

    I lived with a guy with Aspergers for a couple years - I didn't understand why he didn't respond to my requests for affection.

    He's never been diagnosed - I bumped into a description of Aspergers after I left him and I think he just felt labeled when I approached him with what I thought explained some of his struggles.  I don't think he's ever looked into it, unfortunately - from what little I know now, he's still plagued and not receiving assistance.

    Glad you've found your own forever love...

    Torture: An act... specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering upon another person within his custody or physical control.

    by MsGrin on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 06:09:26 AM PDT

  •  Your reactions are so much like those of DATA (9+ / 0-)

    on Star Trek, the Next Generation. The way his character is written, particularly the occasional cluelessness in responding to feminine indirect talk, must have been patterned on people with Asperger's spectrum of response.

    ATF Alcohol, Tobacco. Firearms. Add Burgers and Potato Salad and its a Southern Picnic.

    by OHdog on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 06:19:35 AM PDT

  •  Wonderful story with such valuable (8+ / 0-)

    insights into the Aspergers world.

    Thank you for writing this.

    We work in the dark. We do what we can. We give what we have. Our doubt is our passion. Our passion is our task. The rest is the madness of art.

    by cultural worker on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 06:22:21 AM PDT

  •  I feel like I should thank the diarist for such a (6+ / 0-)

    great read.  First, I was going to applaud, but I figured you wouldn't hear it!

    Can I please have your attention. I've just been handed an urgent and horrifying news story. I need all of you to stop what you're doing and listen. CANNONBALL!

    by PJ Jefferson on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 06:23:05 AM PDT

  •  I have different stories (5+ / 0-)

    My stories involve me being overwhelmed by the mere thought of girls, and most social situations.  There are probably a few reasons for this, but an Autism Spectrum Disorder may be one of them.  My son was diagnosed a few years ago with Aspergers, and as they say, "the apple does not fall far from the tree" -- I suspect I may have PDD-NOS, which is milder and more non-specific than Aspergers.

    In High School, I was called on the telephone on two separate occasions by girls asking me out.  I literally did not know how to answer them and what to say.  I was flattered, but I just did not know how to handle the social interactions involved (and I don't think it was simply shyness).  Needless to say, both girls were quite disappointed.

    Thankfully, I have been happily married to a wonderful woman for over 15 years now, and these incidents are old memories.

    •  Its amazing how a child's diagnosis can make (6+ / 0-)

      parents reflect on their own lives.  I remember being so nervous during dance classes as a 12 year old, when we had to ask a girl to slow dance, that my palms were always sweaty, my heart was racing, I hated going to the lessons, etc.  Then I'd be nervous that they'd think I was slimy if they touched my sweaty hands, and I'd get even MORE nervous.  

      I also remember girls talking to me, and not being able to interpret if they were being nice, or sarcastically making fun of me.  One example I remember was my senior year of high school, when a girl asked if my hair was naturally wavy, how I styled it, etc.  To this day, over 20 years later, I'm not sure if she was being nice, or fucking with me, and suggesting that my hair was ugly - - - and the crazy part is that I was a pretty damned popular guy, and this was a girl that ran in the same circles as I did.  Even to this day, 20 years later, as much as the logical side of me says she was being nice, the majority of me is not so sure.

      I also found out when I got married that my mom thought I was gay, because I didn't have any serious girlfriends in grade school.  The truth is I was terrified of them and felt much calmer around boys, so I only hung out with boys.

      Can I please have your attention. I've just been handed an urgent and horrifying news story. I need all of you to stop what you're doing and listen. CANNONBALL!

      by PJ Jefferson on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 06:35:07 AM PDT

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      •  Interesting points (7+ / 0-)

        I had similar symptoms when I went to dances, once I had to leave the building.

        In High School, occasionally girls would ask me questions as if to show concern, and I wondered what their real motives were.  Maybe that was part of why I could not respond properly to the girls who called me.

        When I met my current wife, my friend (who later was my best man at my wedding) told me that his wife had thought I was gay, and that another mutual friend and I were a couple -- which was completely incorrect.

        I seem to have been a "late-bloomer".  I remember in early High School, I had my first real friendships with other boys, and most of us were in that "no girls in the treehouse" stage.  Aspergers kids sometimes appear as though they are "late-bloomers".

    •  PDD-NOS is not necessarily milder (8+ / 0-)

      than aspergers. Can be much more severe actually. It depends on the case. The distinction between AS and PDD_NOS is based on which symptoms present, not their severity.

      "crush in it's birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government" -Thomas Jefferson

      by Phil In Denver on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 06:38:34 AM PDT

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      •  Yep (4+ / 0-)

        our 7 yr old son, Michael, is PDD NOS.  He's definitely not as high functioning as someone with Aspergers.  On the other hand, he's higher functioning than many on the spectrum.  As I remember the day he was diagnosed, his pediatric neurologist explained that he clearly showed some autistic attributes, but not enough to be diagnosed with "classic" autism.  We look at PDD NOS as a pigeon hole to place those who fall somewhere between lower functioning autism and Aspergers.  He also said our son may one day grow "into" Aspergers.  We're just waiting to see how he develops over time.

  •  Hopefully, with new therapies, kids will be able (4+ / 0-)

    to learn more about social cues in an academic fashion, and translate their learnings to social situations.  

    They are doing a lot these days with showing pictures of facial expressions and teaching kids what they mean, showing kids videos of social scenes and explaining the subtle nuances to them, etc.  Given that kids with Asperger's are often of high intelligence, my hope is that many of those who do not naturally "get" social cues will be able to study, learn, and interpret them, in real time.

    Can I please have your attention. I've just been handed an urgent and horrifying news story. I need all of you to stop what you're doing and listen. CANNONBALL!

    by PJ Jefferson on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 06:28:02 AM PDT

  •  I have a son with high-functioning autism (5+ / 0-)

    very similar to Asperger's. I can see him behaving just like this.

    It's hard to deal with sometimes; I'm glad you eventually managed to find a woman who knew how to deal with you :-)

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference.

    by blue aardvark on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 06:39:38 AM PDT

  •  as a fellow aspie (6+ / 0-)

    i know how u feel. But its not a mistake if you learn from it.

    Gore works in mysterious ways.

    by Dude1701 on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 06:47:40 AM PDT

  •  Reminds me of one of my students (5+ / 0-)

    who was joking around with a teacher who had back east mannerisms.  

    The student was enjoying making a bold statement and the teacher laughed and replied, "get out of here!".  
    The conversation quickly ended and days later we learned that Jimmy was crushed and didn't understand why he was asked to leave.

    Aspergers helps us all appreciate how subtle and tricky communication can be.

    If cats could blog.... they wouldn't.

    by crystal eyes on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 06:53:54 AM PDT

  •  Another takeaway from your diary-- (3+ / 0-)
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    and I'm writing here as someone who is "differently abled" and who teaches first year college students (foundation design) who also tend to be differently abled--a lot of ADD, dyslexia, visual/kinesthetic learners and social "eccentrics" (raises hand)--

    and it fits right in with the town hall/crisis in civility--

    which is that only good can come every time we try to expand our own empathy and compassion and look at something from another's viewpoint.

    And also (I think this part is very hard for me and probably for a lot of us)--somehow to have the courage in ordinary conversations to ask "what do you mean?" and to reach for understanding instead of assumptions.

    We work in the dark. We do what we can. We give what we have. Our doubt is our passion. Our passion is our task. The rest is the madness of art.

    by cultural worker on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 07:19:08 AM PDT

  •  This looks like the first romantic comedy (6+ / 0-)

    I would consider seeing in the theater.  I have Asperger's, and have had a lot of painful moments like those in the trailer - just not leavened by the happy outcomes that are probably in the movie.  One example: There was this girl I was hot for, and we were talking, and she had started talking about how much her neck hurt and how much a neck rub would feel good...my response was to offer her tylenol.  That missed opportunity will always piss me off.

    "Water can flow, or it can crash. Be water, my friend." -Bruce Lee

    by Troubadour on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 07:37:13 AM PDT

  •  My 8 year old son... (4+ / 0-)

    has been diagnosed with Asperger's.  Your insight, and those of the commenters, has been revealing and most helpful.

    Thanks for this diary and the heads up about the movie.

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