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These are weird times, made weirder every day by the immediacy and explicitness of our media-age. For the last two weeks, I have watched the many you-tube videos showing the creepiest of Americans storming town halls and local recreation centers to let their intransigent voices be heard in cheesy pseudo-patriotic splendor.

Unfortunately for these heroic true-blue-ers, it appears that the nefarious mustachioed forces of collectivist evil (i.e. free t-shirted volunteers and inept government bureaucrats) have barred many of the doors. Not surprisingly, chunky down-homey folks reacted as they are wont to do, with flailing, misguided and ill-informed indignation, followed, naturally, by short recap interview spots on Fox News. These are our post-post-modern counterculture revolutionaries. They don't really know how to chant or march per se, but they recite bumper stickers relatively well and have been on Wikipedia just long enough to have a third-grader’s understanding of historical American reform movements and co-opt some misused symbolism. The slightly more disconcerting part, however, is that they are poorly practiced in the ways of non-violent dissent, having done little throughout their largely disaffected lives. Regrettably, it only takes one or two slight shoves by a Popeye-armed plumber with gold-reflective Oakley sunglasses that are, evidently and counter-intuitively, still being made and sold somehow, of a guy that looks exactly like him and their preternatural instincts turn the party all headlocky and strange. But what is the actual root of this well-earned protestation? Well, that is where things get really obscure.

The issue de jour raising the ire of American conservatives is public healthcare. Like so many issues before it, this one too has little or nothing to do with reality or fact. It resides in the much more forgiving and flexible land of our sensationalist-media-caked, blogged and streaming you-tubed, self-indulgent political debate. The utter lack of substance of our current discourse is virtually impossible to overstate at this point. Political theater is hardly a novel idea, but today's version is so surrealistic, haphazard and devoid of substance or merit that it resembles what I can only imagine a Quentin Tarantino high school play would be like. Making it worse, this dumbed-down, trans-continental version of Crossfire exists almost entirely in a political vacuum, without any real arbitrator of truth or factuality to monitor the performance. The sides, if they can be called that, are entirely free to say whatever they want in furtherance of their cause, and there simply is no way to stop it any more. Ideally, one side's arguments would largely prevail on its merits, but the model is so warped and broken that the debate doesn’t even approach the merits. There is no speaking truth the power. It's about speaking emphatic falsity to broad idiocy. This country, and particularly the right, are media-herded political cattle, only shiny objects and loud noises do any good. I suppose I can guess why hardcore conservatives seem to me most susceptible to this brand of marketing. They generally have less information, but care desperately about appearing to be informed (see for reference the entire career of Bill O’Reilly), making them the perfect storm of dangerous stupid. They like the illusion of advocacy without the annoyance of investigation or study. Like the worst of their concentric-circled religious brethren, they can certainly quote scripture, but couldn’t find Judea on a map with both hands.

Truthfully, though, it’s our own fault. We tolerate it, primarily out of some obligatory notion that it’s good for the country and it furthers America’s greatest attribute, dissent. Listen, I am all for a good discussion, even more for righteous indignation when it’s actually righteous, but I am not going to pretend there is righteousness where there isn’t. I am proud to live in a country in which Klu Klux Klan-ers can march on Skokie should they chose to, but I don’t take pride in their existence in the first place, nor do I feel the need to pretend they hold a legitimate opinion. They don’t. They have a confusion and a problem, but it’s not really an opinion. We may not have many KKK-ers out in the open today, but an identifiable thread of inhumanity still lingers and finds expression elsewhere. You would have to intentionally deceive yourself not to see some philosophical overlap between the Birthers, the folks that use Barack Obama’s middle name as some sort of anti-Muslim fear tactic, the "God Hates Homos" hyper-religious crowd, and even to some extent a number of modern tea-baggers. These people are bound irrevocably by fear, fear of virtually everything (immigrants, communists, foreigners, the Hollywood elite, San Francisco, puppies....probably), and the ranting hatred that gives voice to that fear. They rail against what they deem to be communism despite some of the most overt contradictions imaginable. They truly, sadly and ironically, believe that Obama, a modern centrist democrat whose entire career has been powered by large corporations and wealthy individuals most assuredly bent on maintaining the status quo, and schooled in the Realpolitik ways of Chicago public service, is somehow, inexplicably, a dyed-in-wool Marxist. It's actually never occurred to them how counterintuitive that is. As Obama cuts back-door deals with monster pharmaceutical companies, bails out over-indulgent banks, hedge funds, car companies and every other powerful sector in the American economy with lobbyists on a speed-dial, savvy political observers in wood-paneled gentlemen clubs on K-Street order another glass of scotch and laugh at the inevitable, unflinching rotation of the political earth. Meanwhile, the intellectually feeble throughout the gritty real-America-land take to the streets like marionettes on strings running from the sausagey, greased fingers of Rush Limbaugh and Dick Army.

And when they go out, they go armed to the nines with stupid. Some recent highlights:

They wear confederate flag t-shirts and hold up signs that say "Abolish Federal Government," no doubt unaware that the preamble to the Confederacy’s Constitution very clearly contemplates the formation of "a permanent federal government" for which it was drafted (or copied really).


They compare Obama to Hitler, because rational people can of course recognize the vast similarities between the Holocaust and Nazi death-squads and a milquetoast house bill that may or may not include a potential option of government paid health-insurance for those citizens that chose it. Hitler rounded up and murdered millions of Jews, gays, artists and the infirm with the militant force of jackbooted thugs and Obama similarly wants to kill all of the old people by the more surreptitious but equally evil route of offering doctors under the public health-plan credit for providing penta-annual end-of-life consulting services for those that request it. I suppose in some gestalt sense of all things being intertwined to one great web of existence, these may be very similar, but in the normal-functioning-brain level of obvious historical comparison, they could scarcely be more different.

They claim that their protest to public healthcare program is a philosophical objection to socialist governmental services, while arguing in the same breath that this program will ruin the most conspicuous of all social public insurance programs – Medicare and Medicaid – all without even the faintest hint of irony. This is what allows them, beautifully and magically, to say things like "Keep the government out of my Medicare." Honestly, Jonathan Swift couldn’t approximate this level of pure, crystallized ironical genius. An avowed atheist most days, when I see a creepy conservative say something like this on television, I feel the divine elbow of God nudging and fucking with me just a little bit. Like he literally smirkingly says to me, while stroking his long white beard, "watch this shit, I am going to make one of your buddies here make no fucking sense at all." Oh, we giggle a bit (me and God) and go back to our mutual indifference to one another, but perhaps it does make me feel less alone in the vast expanse of nothingness.

This is what America has come to I fear. The problem is so much more pervasive than this particular issue. Large swaths of this country, simply put, are Sarah Palin-dumb. What’s worse, it’s a country of self-aggrandizing Joe "the Plumbers", who almost literally (as literally as possible given the inherent limitations of the poorly-used phrase) know nothing. I usually feel sorry for people like them, I do. It's not entirely their fault - but society does them no service in pretending to listen to them, any more than it does a blind hooker by letting her drive a Smart-Car on the interstate, or really any blind person for that matter. These people are dangerously unaware of the world, politics and, most significantly, their own gross and violent inadequacy to even remotely comprehend these issues in the first place. Ignorance is never conscious, but usually it’s at least a little insecure. Those days appear to be behind us. Ignorance likes to speak up at the dinner table now, and loudly. He blogs fiercely, writes Op-Ed pieces, has millions of listeners on the radio every day, runs for vice-president and shows off his pulpy gams to the drooling morons the rest of us call rightwing-nuts. This is the mind-numbingly ignorant United States of current America in which I must toil. It's so utterly demoralizing to thoughtful people, that I simply don't see how we can abide it any longer. Honestly, these Palin-ites need less town hall meetings, and more legitimate education. They need to pick up real-life books and newspapers once in a while, and stop deriving their political talking points from the hacks at Fox News or an email thread sent by the biggest moron they and ten other morons know. And most importantly, they need to put down the internet and all the crazy that comes with it. Creepy conservatives and middling rightwing pseudo-politicos absolutely love the internet and its ability to make relevant their previously marginalized credos.


I quite understand that this will seem like elitism, so the better to deal with it frankly. I am not really an elitist, at least in any palpably historical sense. I am by no means wealthy, and not a single identifiable member of my lineage has ever lived on Park Avenue, or owned a home in or on (not sure which) a Cape or Vineyard or a Hampton. My education, though post-graduate, is relatively pedestrian. I am neither terribly fit, nor white-toothy good looking nor exceedingly tall, as traditional elitists indeed once were. But that's really the point. Elitism isn't what it used to be. It actually takes very little in our modern political culture. I can read, and care to. I try to remain thoughtful about things I understand and humble regarding the things I don’t. I don’t feign an undying love of the constitution and the Founding Fathers just so I can carry guns and dislike black people. I try not to randomly pray for shit in the middle of the day. I have little more than what should be a normal educated adult's understanding of the complexities of the world. But, to my elitist credit, I know just enough to not confuse jingoistic sloganism with patriotism, empty platitudes with righteousness or redundancy with political astuteness. Just enough not to think that a public option healthcare program is communism just because someone less educated than me can say it aloud relentlessly. Just enough not to buy into the over-marketed and trite notion that everyone in the heartland, bible-belt or who hunt moose are "real" Americans, and the fifty million people that live in the greater New York, Los Angeles and Bay Area regions somehow aren't. I know it’s verboten, but truthfully, I don't want moose hunters to be even remotely relevant in national politics ever again. I want them just to keep to being weird and, presumably, hunting moose. Let those of us with some lingering connection to the larger world take care of the important things.

Obviously, I have also referenced weight a good deal in this, but I do so for good reason and certainly not to seem body-type judgmental. I point it out for its intrinsic symbolism to the people I am generally describing. I think the world has long been able (me being its rational normal person spokesman for these purposes) to tolerate the lamentations of the indigent and the physically slight. However, the extreme indulgence, the gluttonous Walmart-ian lust, of the average current beefy protestor betrays his alleged plight. When I think of the significant movements of political revolt, I think of a shivering and war-torn Tom Paine sitting by a campfire scribbling of times that try men's souls, I think of great huddled angry masses of Russian proletariat reading obsessively their dog-eared mass-produced manifestos and striving for a better lot in life, I think of sweet cargo-panted campesinos in the Sierra Madre mountains, I think of soot-faced railway workers and miners that haven’t eaten a decent meal in days, and I think of Gandhi wasting away to the bone in the service of his beliefs. Whatever the ultimate cause, we general can empathize with those that bleed, die and starve for it. Today's raging American populist is hardly so romantic. We have traded in William Lloyd Garrison, Eugene Debs and Rosa Parks for Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity. My peripheral vision flashing red dots go into overdrive and the inside of my mouth acidifies a bit when I think of Rush Limbaugh as a counterculture head of a reformist movement, or that we live in a society in which Glenn Beck fancies himself an intellectual satirist, or where Sean Hannity is somehow, inexplicably, allowed to even exist.

But this is who America is. Too fat and too stupid to realize we are so fat and so stupid. We are without shame, without apology, and, seemingly more every day, without prospect of redemption. Self-satisfied intellectual liberals, also overfed on their own sense of detached superiority, are left only to laugh at the absurdity of it all.

Originally posted to davepayne on Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 12:19 PM PDT.

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  •  Good rant: Reminds me of my favorite movie (5+ / 0-)

    quote, by Dean Wormer in "Animal House," that "Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son."  That is the personification of the modern Repug Brownshirt teabagging moran.  

    FWIW, might want to either pare it down next time, or put subject headings in the text to make it easier for folks to skim.  :o)

    "I once asked a literary agent what writing paid the best, and he said, 'Ransom notes.'" - Gene Hackman as Harry Zimm in "Get Shorty"

    by Vtdblue on Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 12:27:48 PM PDT

  •  I take issue with this diary (14+ / 0-)

    Its clever enough, fine, but--

    You spend a lot of time insulting people because of their weight, and also claim that the "creepiest of Americans"-

    These people don't look all that different from the people on our side.  You get into trouble when you start trying to critique people on appearance.

    •  Too critical? (2+ / 0-)

      I meant it toungue and cheeky with respect to weight, appearance, etc. The thing is I look like these people too, so it's self-referential to some degree.

      •  Not overweight and underinformed... (1+ / 0-)
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        The overall problem isn't too fat and not enough information, its not enough EDUCATION. Immediately after we pass the public option on health care (Trust me it will help with overweight part), we need to IMMEDIATELY start on our education system. So many of these people haven't been taught how to form logical conclusions, and so they only believe what's on TV or what's been told to them for generations.

        We need to teach our citizens how to think. The minute we send everyone to college so they can get away from Podunkville, WhoKnowsWhere, and they learn reason, logic and how to really look out for their own best interests it will be amazing what this country can accomplish. When only the rich can afford to go to school and stay well then the middle income and poor people won't have the access to GOOD, neutral information so they can actually make a calm rational decision.

        I know from what I speak...I'm from Bumbf***k nowhere, Idaho.

        •  Maybe we should have done that first (0+ / 0-)

          Our failed educational system is why the debate on health care is where it is right now.  Fix that and we fix a lot of things.

          Hopefully you're not from the town that passed the law saying every family should own at least one gun-- where some of my family lives.

  •  Fat like Ted Kennedy? (10+ / 0-)

    Along with equating weight with the lunatic right winhg (let's forget about the correlation between poverty and weight in America), why don't you add a little section on phrenology?

    Both are equally valid.

    Lose the bloat in your post and focus on spotlighting the "America you fear." It stands on it's own two feet, no need to read tea leaves.

  •  Recced (2+ / 0-)
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    for "WalMartian"

    You don't really pull any punches in your regard to weight, though.  To be totally honest, I'm disgusted at the sedentary lifestyle that some seem to have adopted.  On top of that, these lifestyles are permeating the lives of younger and younger children.    

    I guess don't be suprised if you get slammed for that.

    •  I'm disgusted by it too (4+ / 0-)
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      and I live it.  Sitting in an office for 12-14-16 hours a day, sometimes 2-3 days straight.  It's not natural.  And every day, some joint creaks in a more alarming way, my pants don't fit right, etc.  I keep doing it to pay my mortgage and, in this environment, everybody is afraid to give anything other than 115%, but I'm disgusted by it.

      "Get up and walk for 15 minutes" and "take 30 minutes in the morning to work out" are great pieces of advice that I've received, but they don't work.  Or, rather, they don't work often enough to build a routine, because one day there's an urgent conference call at the last minute, and another day there's a document that has to go out by midnight, and still another day there's exhaustion that comes from working three days straight without sleep.

      Our country has a problem with weight that is certainly attributable in part to sugary sodas and fattening food, but there's also the problem of not having enough hours in the day to exercise properly, when the day is spent entirely in an office.

      Love my job, love my work, love my clients. But the way it all happens is difficult to sustain.

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      by socratic on Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 01:00:28 PM PDT

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      •  Another thing that other advanced countries (5+ / 0-)

        do better than us, more time off from work.  And the lack of obsession with the suburbs so less time spent commuting.

        •  Americans work hard (3+ / 0-)
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          but we don't work well.  And there's a macho "I can keep it up longer than you can" (interpret that however you wish) thing that means we put in a lot of time that we could probably avoid.

          But even if you're aware of that and have a strategy to avoid it, you're competing with people who play by different rules, so it's hard not to join in if you want to stay employed.

          It's an interesting conundrum.

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          by socratic on Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 01:16:40 PM PDT

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      •  I apologize if you (0+ / 0-)

        feel slighted by my comments.

        To be honest, I routinely work ~65hrs a week and I make time to exercise.  I'm not being critical of you, I hope you don't take it that way.

        That's just me though.  

        •  I don't feel slighted (3+ / 0-)
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          but I'm not talking about 65 hours here. 65 hours is nothing. I'm talking about 85+, week after week after week.  I generally go to work at 8am and hang up my work spurs around midnight or 1am.  That's on days that I'm not here overnight.  So it's not a matter of making time to exercise.  It's a matter of making time to sleep, eat, etc.  I take a lot of 5-minute sanity breaks here and there, but that's not enough time to ride to the ground floor, much less to go to the gym across the street.

          And that's a job that pays reasonably well. I feel for the people who work 2, 3 jobs for shit money just to survive.

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          by socratic on Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 01:10:10 PM PDT

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          •  Well, then woe is me =) (1+ / 0-)
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            I feel for the people who work 2, 3 jobs for shit money just to survive

            That's pretty much my situation right now.

            Look, I don't want you to think I'm making broad generalizations.  I understand some people, such as yourself, are unable to exercise and eat properly.

            But there are millions of people that choose to sit around and consume diets that doubly (or even more) exceed the normal caloric values for adults.  I don't think criticizing such lifestyles should be totally out-of-bounds.

            •  I don't disagree (1+ / 0-)
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              I told you, I'm disgusted by it too. :)  

              I do actually eat well though. I gave up soft drinks years ago.  And I minimize fried, fat, etc.  But it's nowhere near enough.  Hell, I could get my body in perfect shape in a gym, and I'd miss spending a saturday breathing clear mountain air.

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              by socratic on Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 01:20:26 PM PDT

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              •  Soft drinks! (1+ / 0-)
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                I was heavier when I was younger and I completely stopped drinking regular soda.

                Now, I occasionally drink diet (which is equally crappy nutritionally speaking), but I was amazed how much difference cancelling out a couple sodas a day makes.

                I've always wanted to take up hiking but it's kind of hard in my region (Milwaukee) to find good trails.  It's so darn flat.

                •  I don't drink diet or regular (3+ / 0-)
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                  I occasionally have a Sprite when I'm bored with plain water, but generally I drink soda water with lime or lemon.  If I drink Sprite now, it's like drinking syrup.  I actually found some "Mexican Coke" at Publix a couple of months ago, and violated my no soft drinks rule because I wanted to see if real sugar made a difference.  Well, it did. It tasted better, and the mouth feel was great, but holy crap it was still SO SWEET.  

                  Gave up caffeine 3+ years ago as well, so I don't have the sugar and caff crashes that I used to.  The downside is that I'm sleepy all the time because of everything else.

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                  by socratic on Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 01:26:54 PM PDT

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              •  Oh, but (1+ / 0-)
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                I'm also sympathetic.  Some folks just eat too damn much barbecue, sure, especially down this way.  But a lot are trapped in a vicious cycle that's incredibly difficult to escape.  

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                by socratic on Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 01:30:23 PM PDT

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  •  I too, take issue with the weight bashing.... (9+ / 0-)

    as a 65 year old who is overweight, but also an educated, left of liberal activist who hikes and is physically healthy and energetic, I'm offended. You can criticize people for their lack of understanding about health care legislation or their refusal to become informed but lay off attacking their weight, color, religion, ethnicity or gender.

    "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK

    by moose67 on Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 12:35:54 PM PDT

    •  I'm kind of surprised (1+ / 0-)
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      that you would equate color/ethnicity/gender with weight.

      I'm not criticizing you and I'm well aware of medical conditions and pre-dispositions that lead to certain weights.  But the growing obesity problem is, in some part, due to the choices people make and what they decide to consume.

      •  True, but weight along (4+ / 0-)
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        with color/ethnicity/gender is often used as a means to discriminate against another.  Making sweeping judgments about individuals based on any of the above criteria is not particularly useful.  Should we listen more approvingly to the words of Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Bobby Jindal, or George Bush because they are physically in decent shape?  Barack Obama smokes.  Should we mock and condescend to him for making a choice that is arguably as injurious to himself as obesity is to others?

        •  I don't disagree (1+ / 0-)
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          Should we listen more approvingly to the words of Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Bobby Jindal, or George Bush because they are physically in decent shape?

          isn't that great of an argument considering my comments.  I've never advocated we should be disapproving of opinions by out-of-shape people.

          •  I suppose that part (1+ / 0-)
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            was aimed at the general tone of the diary/thread rather than at your specific comment to which I replied.  This thread started with moose67 taking issue with weight bashing and not judging people on weight, color, ethnicity, race, etc.  You seemed to support the diarist's singling out of weight by separating it from other ways that people are often negatively (and incorrectly) judged.

  •  Next Time - (7+ / 0-)

    Try avoiding judging people on their weight, skin color, sex, age, etc., etc., etc.

  •  Oh goody (7+ / 0-)

    let the fat bashing begin.

    BTW, a number of us progressives are "chunky down-homey folks" just thought I'd remind you of that.

  •  Perhaps overindulged rather than overweight (2+ / 0-)
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    I just sent off a reply to a petite not overweight acquaintance who is very underinformed. She is suffering from a sense of suffering at the hands of others though she is still well housed, well fed, and has adequate health insurance and income through her still employed husband. She takes anecdotes from like minded people about being forced to use distant free speech zones at town halls as evidence the Brown Shirts are here. She is overindulged. She is not suffering or lacking, at least to the extent you describe.

    At least, your title would be less off-putting to people like me, overweight but very well informed. It weakens the force of your argument for me.

    PROlong LIFE with affordable & effective Health Care for all.

    by Belle Ame on Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 12:43:03 PM PDT

  •  Too Bad Everyone is Focusing on the Fat (1+ / 0-)
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    Let's face it, America is the fattest nation in the world, by far. So, you're not really singling anyone out:


    Anyway, I say "too bad," because this is so beautifully written. You can't fool me. You're a pro.

    •  A right winger would look at this chart (1+ / 0-)
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      and conclude that it proves that the US is the best nation on earth because we can afford all that food. the other countries are "skinny" because they are "poor" because their governments take all their money for "health care".

    •  Hi stick boy here (0+ / 0-)

      I've heard every excuse about why people are fat, so I watched, studied even. They eat too much. The infamous beer gut, isn't from beer, it's from going to the all-night diner and eating too much.

      Sorry if this offends, truth hurts. As a former alcoholic, I wasn't a drunk because of genetics, I drank too much. Addiction is Addiction.

      I want to create my own culture, I don't want to be entertained. - Lawrence Lessig (-7.25/-5.54)

      by barz9 on Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 02:30:38 PM PDT

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  •  Very Nicely Written... (0+ / 0-)

    Is that a real poncho, or is that a Sears' poncho? - Frank Zappa

    by JoesGarage on Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 12:57:24 PM PDT

  •  I had to do what I never do-- tip this (2+ / 0-)
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    It was so well-written, in spite of its slightly offensive title.  Sort of a Rolling Stone magazine-feel-- angry but hip, intellectual yet down-to-earth (I'll have to look up "gestalt"-- my 3 years of German fail me).

    I see at the town halls something different than a belly that sticks out.

    I see an attempt by corporate interests to make these people seem "real" and "ordinary."  It shows Big Business's contempt for the American people.  Because the fact is Americans have always had an eccentric streak; at least the people we admire most are not "normal."  Look how Michael Jackson was/is admired.  Or Ernest Hemingway if you prefer.  

    But the insurance companies and FreedomWorks/Dick Armey hacks who work for them want it to look like regular Americans are speaking out against health care reform.  So they tend bus in people who look homely (not that I can judge), dress in boring clothes, talk plain[ly]-- like the guy who apparently didn't "use sophisticated words."

    The name you leave out in this bang-my-head-against-wall-in-frustration list is Jonah Goldberg.  He's the dumbest motherfucker ever to walk the planet (sorry, I'm reading Miles Davis's autobiography and it's rubbing off on me) yet he fancies himself some sort of intellectual.

    Good diary-- but it probably is easier to read if printed out, for me anyway.  The screen does something to the eyes with long paragraphs.

  •  What a great piece of writing. (0+ / 0-)

    Well done.

    The political and commercial morals of the United States are not merely food for laughter, they are an entire banquet. Mark Twain

    by AWhitneyBrown on Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 01:02:36 PM PDT

  •  the black headed people (0+ / 0-)

    That is what the Chinese called them. In the feudal world, they were the villeins. A passing lord looks with disguist upon their deformed, pungent ranks, as they part bowing for his horse. One could do nothing with them but bind them to the land and then sell with along with the other aspects of the estate. Avoiding contact with them is the reason so many European cities are built on a canal system, or, like London, with ample river access, so the lords could take boats from their country estates into Parliament without encountering their swarms.

    Of course we will have Fascism in America, but we will call it Democracy. - Senator Huey Long

    by Marcion on Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 01:05:39 PM PDT

  •  Wow, everyone is going to listen to liberals now. (4+ / 0-)

    Nothing like degrading entire swaths of people to score cheap points with the kossack crowd.  Fat, unimformed, unwashed wal-martians.  Really smart.  Totally enlightened of you.  

    Medicare for All is Civil Rights

    by masslib on Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 01:10:16 PM PDT

  •  fine rant, but a tiny bit of economic analysis... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...would put the "fat" metaphor in perspective. The seemingly paradoxical correlation between poverty (in its modern American form) and obesity is exceedingly clear.

    As for teh stoopid, well, that's a different analysis.

  •  Homer Simpson Effect (1+ / 0-)
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    There just may be a connectionbetween obesity and loss of intelligence:

    A five-year study of more than 2000 middle-aged people has found a possible link between weight and brain function.

    Research published in Neurology, the journal of the American Academy of Neurology, found people with a higher Body Mass Index (BMI) scored lower on average in cognitive tests within a sample.

    Meanwhile, a separate paper, published in the same journal by Scots researchers, suggests a link between physical and mental fitness.

    Dialog macht Sinn / Dialogue makes sense

    by DowneastDem on Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 01:13:46 PM PDT

  •  How About Fat Smokers - - (0+ / 0-)

    Who wear polyester?

    Of course,
    you don't want to run into this girl in a dark alley.

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  •  You forgot overmedicated (0+ / 0-)

    I guarantee a lot of these inhibitionless fat white people have the same drug problem Rush had.

  •  I wanted to like this rant and it should have, (0+ / 0-)

    could have, been brilliant.  But in the end, all I saw was:  FATTIES ARE STUPID.

    Couldn't get past that.

    I never get tired of saying that I went to law school with Eric Cantor, and he was as much of a deeply closeted scumbag then, as he is now.

    by ereshkigal on Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 01:54:13 PM PDT

  •  What about the overweight and over-informed? (1+ / 0-)
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    What about us???

    "What is essential is invisible to the eye."

    by greywolfe359 on Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 01:58:23 PM PDT

  •  I probably would have enjoyed this; however, (3+ / 0-)

    I must admit, I found the references to weight to be offensive.  They further some very nasty, discriminatory stereotypes.  It seems to be far too easy to judge someone based on weight, they must be "lazy" or lack "will power" or just be less intelligent.  

    When my health first got bad, I went from 115 pounds to 300 pounds, until we got my kidney problem under control.  I'm back to 130 pounds now, thankfully, because it is easier to move, breathe, find clothes, etc., not to mention healthier.  But, I can tell you from experience, there is widespread discrimination practiced toward overweight people. People treated me in a vastly different manner.  And, it hurts when it is directed at you; I mean, seriously, deeply hurts.

    You are my brother, my sister.

    by RoCali on Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 02:11:23 PM PDT

  •  Too much focus on weight (0+ / 0-)

    I miscalculated the focus on weight, quite clearly. Again, I mean no disrespect to heavy set people. I am making a point about the juxtaposition of our current average citizen and what I believe to be a feigned and insincere fight over American values. Healthcare would pay dividends to the very people that rail against it. We aren't just fat on food and drink, we are fat on everything. We have so much, and yet you see these people out in the streets (after they drive there in their large SUVs) pretending that they are the disenfranchised. Hardly. In a world of executioners and victims (Debs), it's annoying, at least to me, to listen to the whimpers of the executioners.

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