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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is trailing one potential Republican challenger by 10 points in a hypothetical 2010 matchup, a new poll suggests, and he's not faring much better against another possible opponent.

Reid trails Nevada GOP chairwoman Sue Lowden, 49 percent to 39 percent, according to a Mason-Dixon poll commissioned by the Las Vegas Review-Journal and released Sunday. Reid is also losing by a 48-43 margin in a hypothetical race against another leading candidate for the Republican Senate nomination, businessman Danny Tarkanian.

Although Reid is likely to raise millions and get a helping hand from national Democrats, Nevadans appear to have an overall negative opinion of their senior senator, who doesn't have much wiggle room to improve his image. Nearly 100 percent of Nevada voters know who Reid is, and 50 percent of them hold an unfavorable view of the Democrat. Just 38 percent have a favorable opinion.

I am a life-long democrat. I want nothing more than for our agenda to be realized in Obama's administration. Keeping a majority in the Senate is of utmost importance and Mr. Reid is the Majority leader.

Still in all, I would like nothing more than to see this useless loser ejected from his post, embarrassed in the polls and have difficulty getting a job scooping ice cream cones at the Dairy Queen.

Harry Reid, in my opinion, is the main reason we're having difficulty getting anything passed or, for that matter, winning the arguments we should be winning. He is the weakest Majority Leader we've ever had, and my memory goes way back.

He's sabotaged every proposal, made hollow threats (when he had the vote majority!) and caved in again and again to the Bush administration. Now, with a Democratic President, he's continued to obstruct.

Fuck this asshole. I would rather lose a seat in the senate than give him anymore chance to screw us over after 2010. If Obama's Presidency is deemed a failure, it will be on his head.

Sure, I know. The Senate is a tough place to get bills passed. There's alot of politics you don't find in Congress, but the question is, at what point, do you expect SOMETHING from those in leadership positions. Bill Frist did a heck of a lot more during his term than this milktoast weakling has done.

It's tough love, but we democrats have to know when to strong arm. Getting him out is key. Keeping him is suicide for the party. What we need is someone like Alan Grayson to take his spot. Sad that he's in the wrong house for that.

Democrats have to learn how to be bullies. It's the only way to fight an opposing party that's nothing but.

Originally posted to VerbalPaintball on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 09:32 AM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (10+ / 0-)

    "It doesn't matter whether you win or lose. It's how you ladle the gravy." - Felix Ungar

    by Verbalpaintball on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 09:32:28 AM PDT

    •  OK Cheer on the Republicans. (8+ / 0-)
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      Kitty, sja, Pozzo, kaye, Saxman, BobTrips, SnowItch, tapu dali

      But why on this blog?

      I know that there aer scores of people on this blog who think that they could do a better job than Reid has done. They all have one thing in commono.

      They haven't tried.

      If "con" is the antonym of "pro," what is the antonym of "progress"?

      by Frank Palmer on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 09:39:51 AM PDT

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      •  To draw a football analogy, (2+ / 0-)
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        WinSmith, SnowItch

        I'd compare supporting the defeat of Harry Reid to a 'punt'.  Sure, you're giving up the ball to the opposition, but a football team that never punts would get creamed because of bad field position.  Of course, punting on first down (Reid) is bad strategy too.

        Barack Obama in the Oval Office: There's a black man who knows his place.

        by Greasy Grant on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 09:45:53 AM PDT

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        •  Reid Runs Touchbacks (1+ / 0-)
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          Lawdog

          We will be better off watching this shithead go down along with the rest of his DINO sellout buddies from (incomplete list) Montana, Nebraska, Louisiana, and Arkansas.

          If they don't vote to support Democrats on cloture, they need to be defeated.

          ~Ruff

        •  Nope. (3+ / 0-)
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          Kitty, casperr, bleeding blue

          What you are describing is better termed "handing the ball to the other team and walking off the field".

          Walk off the field and just give up the 60 vote majority.  

          Let the Republicans block any meaningful legislation from 2011 on.

          Bad idea.  Fifteen yards.

          15 to 6. Pulled ahead as soon as the gate opened and never looked back....

          by BobTrips on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 10:00:41 AM PDT

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          •  Taking down the Majority Leader (3+ / 0-)
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            casperr, kaye, BobTrips

            is the game-changer the opposite team is looking for heading toward 2012. Just imagine the media spin on this...my neck hurts just thinking about it.

            I'd like to see Reid replaced as leader, but this substitution must come off of our bench, not via a career-ending injury to Reid caused by the bad guys.

            •  Can you point me to a good analysis... (1+ / 0-)
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              Frank Palmer

              that explains why Reid is a bad leader?

              An honest question.

              I haven't heard a single Democratic Senator criticize him.  

              And he's working with a "weak 60" that he only obtained in July when Franken was sworn in.  

              And then Kennedy died.  

              And the Senate took their summer vacation.

              What might another leader accomplished that Reid has been unable to do?  

              And remember that the Republicans vote as a block.

              I need something concrete that tells me that someone else could have passed legislation with less than 60 solid votes.

              Until I get something that spells out the problem with Reid I'm going to assume that all this 'dump Reid' stuff is simply people throwing themselves on the floor and screaming "I want my fuckin' pony!!!".

              15 to 6. Pulled ahead as soon as the gate opened and never looked back....

              by BobTrips on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 10:36:08 AM PDT

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              •  Don't Forget Joe Lieberman ! (0+ / 0-)

                With friends like this, who needs enemies?

              •  And who said (0+ / 0-)

                they could go on vacation-giving health ins lobby more time to work against reform?

                Let tyrants fear.-Queen Elizabeth I

                by Virginia mom on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 11:05:14 AM PDT

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                •  Was vacation a bad idea? (0+ / 0-)

                  The original idea, as I understood it, was to give Congress members a chance to go back to their neighborhoods and talk things over with those who elected them.  That got stirred around in some districts when baggers showed up.

                  But in the long run it seems like taking a break allowed the baggers to burn themselves out and gave the general public a chance to mull things over.

                  Would have things worked better if Congress had stayed in Washington?

                  How could we know?  That's the sort of stuff Monday morning quarterbacking is made of....

                  15 to 6. Pulled ahead as soon as the gate opened and never looked back....

                  by BobTrips on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 01:50:45 PM PDT

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          •  What 60 vote majority? (1+ / 0-)
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            casperr

            We've got maybe 47-49 actual Democrats, and the others are a pair of Indies...with a band of corporate puppets.

            "Here we go." President Barack Obama, 1/22/09

            by cybrestrike on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 10:24:30 AM PDT

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          •  We Could Use A New Majority Leader Who Won't (0+ / 0-)
            Comity us into further entrenchment. Harry's on his own to seek reelection. But the senate sheep need a sharper shepherd to lead towards the green.
            He's so competently uninspiring, you wonder how many cowardly sens use him as a shield for own gutless nonchalance. Everything's a deal, with few breaking ranks. They collude most in secret and play tit for tat. Slowly they muddle and huddle and smirk.
            They glee for nonleadership and sham shallow work.
            They take so much money from fatcat fund frontmen but can't ever figure a law to stop it.
            I don't forgive them and i don't forget. We need a new champion for the challenges unmet. And the dead weight of Harry Reid hasn't pushed for reset.

            Lies at the top cause murder and misery at the bottom. Freedom should be a universal birthright. So many lives end like Neda Agha Soltan.

            by renzo capetti on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 11:40:32 AM PDT

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            •  You're looking for a Great Leader... (0+ / 0-)

              Perhaps what the Senate needs is an excellent orator to give rousing speeches that inspire Senators to vote as a block.

              But somehow I just don't see that working.

              The Senate moves in mysterious ways.  We've screwed them over by forcing them to look for campaign finance money.  And they can't afford to piss off powerful groups in their states.

              So, my take, is that there is a lot of work that needs to happen off-stage, not during come to Jesus gatherings.

              Let's see if the Senate votes some kind of a health care bill out in the next few weeks.  And let's not get our bloomers permanently bunched if it's not a perfect bill.

              Could be that enough Senators need 'cover' that the Senate bill will be a bit on the weak side and the final bill written after both houses vote will better.

              Look for the possibility that some Democratic Senators vote to allow the vote, but vote no on the bill itself.  That's a strategy that lets health care pass but gives them the ability to go back to the people who really oppose change and say that they voted against it.

              It's not uncommon for people to vote against something they support if a 'yes' vote might hurt their next election.  Votes are carefully counted before the actual vote occurs.  And sometimes the most threatened people are allowed to vote 'no' if there are enough 'yes' votes without them.

              15 to 6. Pulled ahead as soon as the gate opened and never looked back....

              by BobTrips on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 02:57:45 PM PDT

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  •  Why is it good news ... (7+ / 0-)
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    sja, Pozzo, kaye, Saxman, emsprater, BobTrips, SnowItch

    to lose a Senate seat to a R? Where do you think the 60+ majority is gonna come from?

    I get "suaviter in modo", Mr President. May we now have some "fortiter in re"?

    by tapu dali on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 09:34:38 AM PDT

  •  Replace Reid with Grayson or Weiner (1+ / 0-)
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    Ruff Limblog

    Why do our Senators have to suck so much?

    "Don't knock football...it's just like chess but without the dice" - john07801

    by voracious on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 09:34:41 AM PDT

  •  To encourage the others, as the French put it (2+ / 0-)
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    fiddlingnero, voracious

    That's why we should let Reid stand or fall on his own.  I think it's pointless to primary him, but certainly we shouldn't support him.

    Al que no le guste el caldo, le dan dos tazas.

    by Rich in PA on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 09:34:59 AM PDT

  •  I want him out of the Leadership (18+ / 0-)

      if that means he loses re-election then fine. If we can get him out of the leadership, then I wouldn't mind if he kept his seat. Leadership removal is key.

  •  Well, I would like him to squeak out a win but.. (8+ / 0-)

    realize that he is not suited to be majority leader. Hand it over to someone more forceful and competent, Harry.

  •  best option would be a primary challenge (12+ / 0-)

    as for losing reid being a net strategic gain, it all depends on who would replace him as majority leader. as daschle proved, getting rid of one worthless pink tutu dem leader doesn't mean you'll do better with the next one.

    surf putah, your friendly neighborhood central valley samizdat

    by wu ming on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 09:44:01 AM PDT

  •  This is good? (4+ / 0-)

    Reid isn't my favorite Democrat but he's not the worst one either. He's going to be better than anyone that the GOP replaces him with. I would like to see him win another term, but step down as majority leader.

    •  No, he's not... (1+ / 0-)
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      grrr

      He's BEEN the GOP majority leader for the last 2 1/2 years.

      None of these people EVER learn lessons unless it knocks them on the ground. I've watched Reid for years talk as if he's never heard a single voter's voice.

      You can't change a party by hoping they'll change. You have to scare these people into action.

      •  I disagree (0+ / 0-)

        That he's been the GOP majority leader. We've actually gotten some good things done, like the stimulus bill and getting Justice Sotomayor confirmed. I don't think he's that great, but part of this is the nature of the senate. It's slow moving and compromise oriented by design. I do wish we had someone more media savvy and a bit more to the left, but Reid is way better than anyone from the GOP.

        •  Can't make excuses... (3+ / 0-)
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          grrr, liberalis, skaye19

          The repugs bullied through votes and got far more of their despicable agenda accomplished because they had a few strong-willed assholes at the helm.

          A weak person right now does us no good. I don't CARE what the design of the senate is. A forceful leader can make a world of difference.

          As far as the stimulus, please. That was going to pass anyway. Sotomayor received very little REAL pushback from the GOP. Those were easy votes to win. None of them presented a true challenge for Reid.

          The right person can do a lot. The wrong one, especially one who's been there too long, makes you forget what is possible.

          He's dead weight.

    •  Well, appppparently...60 doesn't matter.... (0+ / 0-)

      ...now does it... He's one we can lose and still have a numerical majority that can't get crap done.

      "The people have only as much liberty as they have the intelligence to want and the courage to take." - Emma Goldman

      by jvackert on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 10:23:41 AM PDT

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  •  Do you think the senate is not part of Congress?/ (0+ / 0-)

    If looks could kill it would have been us instead of him.

    by jhannon on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 09:47:35 AM PDT

  •  Why isn't there a progressive running (6+ / 0-)

    against Reid?  

    Sunshine on my shoulders...

    by pkbarbiedoll on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 09:48:16 AM PDT

  •  "Pink tutus," "grow some" and more misogynistic (2+ / 0-)
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    dead goat, Lize in San Francisco

    and homophobic (unconscious, I'm sure), chest-thumping, I'm a "real man," and assorted other posturing on this thread than I've seen in a long time.

    If looks could kill it would have been us instead of him.

    by jhannon on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 09:50:08 AM PDT

    •  OK (0+ / 0-)

      pink tutus might be unconsciously homophobic, but "grow a pair" doesnt sound homophobic to me. Testosterone plays a key role for aggression in men (and women).Furthermore, I'm pretty sick of chest-thumping being the sole property of repubs. Why must only the worst have the passionate intensity?

      People were tortured to get false confessions to fraudulently justify our invading Iraq

      by grrr on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 10:10:27 AM PDT

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      •  chest-thumping is empty posturing (0+ / 0-)

        it's easy to sound tough and effective when you're anonymous and not in a position to deliver.

        "grow a pair" is sexist, but whatever.  There were plenty of other grrrss in the thread and it all sounded over-the-top manly manish to me.

        If looks could kill it would have been us instead of him.

        by jhannon on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 05:35:58 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Well, lets see... (1+ / 0-)
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          grrr

          Reid is in a position TO deliver and he's produced NOTHING. Maybe what he needs is to really feel how angry the real voters are out here.

          The man sucks energy out of a room. Not the kind of person you need running things. He destroys momentum.

          Besides, I'm tired of people making excuses for them. There ARE no excuses for these people's jobs. Does you employer accept multiple excuses and constant blame of others when you're doing YOUR job.

          No more excuses. They have to perform.

  •  I don't claim to have the skills (2+ / 0-)
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    liberalis, Jampacked

    to run the Dem caucus of the Senate. But I'm not the majority leader-Reid is. And he apparently does not have the skill either. Replace him by any means necessary.

    Let tyrants fear.-Queen Elizabeth I

    by Virginia mom on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 09:50:34 AM PDT

  •  For the good of the country (1+ / 0-)
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    Lize in San Francisco

    I want to keep our majority.  There is no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Country First.

    If we should lose the majority, don't ever ever complain ever ever again when Obama can't get ANY of his agenda passed.  You'll all be glad for half-assed legislation instead of a string of failures.

    Don't think for a second that Americans will think of the Dems as the party that tried really hard and stuck by their principles, they will think of them as failures.

    •  We don't get anything passed NOW!! (2+ / 0-)
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      liberalis, Jampacked

      You can't hope for change to happen. You have to pummel it into existence. Sometimes that requires a sacrifice. I believe we'd be better off without him.

    •  We have no majority (0+ / 0-)

      we simply have some republicans caucusing with is.

      60 is not a majority, it is the number required to cut off debate.  If REID was a leader and worth keeping, then he would make the rethugs filibuster a strong HCR bill... Once the glare of the spotlight hits some of those rethugs, they will peal off and end the filibuster.

      Some of our 60 senators will support the republican filibuster, not even voting for cloture, to allow a vote.  they are not one of us. Where's the majority?

      I would rather have a total fail than half assed legislation.  With a total fail, at least the issue can be revisited.

      Country First - what a load of crap, bullshit fake patriotism, flag waving, tear jerking national anthem Lea Greenwood, feeling good about a failed system, unable to compete in a world WE CREATED.

      How about PEOPLE FIRST?

      "Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals" Mark Twain

      by CaptainAsshole on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 12:18:00 PM PDT

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  •  The question is: (3+ / 0-)
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    libbie, Virginia mom, Independant Man

    Why is he polling so badly? It is because he is in a position of leadership and doesn't have the wherewithal to function as a leader. His reliable vote tally is meaningless. He is perceived as weak, soft and ineffective by Democrats, and commands no respect from independents. Perhaps he could promise to step down and run on his record, but that's a long shot.

    His best bet is to grow a spine in the next two weeks and prove he can handle the job, that's a even longer shot.

    He needs to be primaried, if for no other reason than to wake him up, but that's a waste of resources.

    Let the chips fall. He has no one but himself to blame.

    "It's like these guys take pride in being ignorant." -- Barack Obama

    by liberalis on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 10:06:31 AM PDT

  •  The problem still remains sans Reid (0+ / 0-)

    Dems in conservative leaning states - 10 in states won by McCain last year. Having said that Schumer could do no worse. I believe Durbin would be no better.

  •  I hate that (0+ / 0-)

    A Dem is so lame that a Rethug could beat him.  Where is Reid's head that he doesn't get it?  He obviously thinks he is doing a good job in spite of the fact that most folks thing he is spineless.  Some one give him a dose of Alan Grayson, please!

    "... - because it's about reclaiming America's soul." Paul Krugman

    by libbie on Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 10:24:21 AM PDT

    •  Jesus! Doesn't anyone understand what's going on (1+ / 0-)
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      sproingie

      ...in Nevada?

      The whole state depends on tourism. Tourism is HOSED beyond belief. Nevada is 2nd to Michigan in unemployment.

      Every politician in Nevada is in jeopardy. this has nothing to do with health-care.

      If you want another John Ensign in the Senate, keep babbling just the way you are...

      •  Ensign and Gibbons problems (0+ / 0-)

        Nothing to do with tourism. Partly to blame for Reid's but more so the fact Repubs and indies see him as too partisan and Dems think he isn't doing his job and isn't partisan enough.

        •  So tell me a politician in Nevada that's doing (0+ / 0-)

          okay?

          15% unemployment - no short term hope of a fix...

          How many years will it be before Americans want to go piss their money away in Vegas [like in the old days]?

          10 years?

          The state is f*cked, and so are the politicians.

        •  57 comments, and mine was the ONLY one (0+ / 0-)

          that talked about ACTUAL conditions in Nevada. What does that tell you?

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