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In a deliciously ironic twist, it turns out the Obama detractors promoting the hateful "Pray for Obama, Psalm 109:8" merchandise have seriously misinterpreted the scripture and are actually calling down the wrath of God on their own heads.  A friend who is a Biblical Scholar realized this and said the Psalm is King David's plea to bring down God's Judgment on his false accusers.

This friend is a KOS lurker and Rachel Maddow fan (where he first saw this discussed) and  wrote the following letter to Rachel that I wanted to share with the DailyKOS family (he's too shy to post directly) - It's a good one, you want to read this...

Here's the text of his letter:

Hello Rachel,

I saw the segment on your show last night about the "Obama and Psalm109:8" references on various products.  The groups behind this obviously think they are cleverly implying that Obama's days should be few and that another should take his office.  However, much like the infamous and unfortunate choice of "teabaggers" as a label for conservative protest groups, they did not do their research carefully enough.

Many Biblical scholars say that Psalm 109 (written by King David) is his plea to God to bring down His (God's) judgment on his (King David's) false accusers.  Under those circumstances the linking  of "Obama and Psalm 109:8" would more accurately refer to Obama refuting his false accusers and calling down God's judgment on them.

So, in effect, these groups are actually promoting calling God's judgment down on themselves.  If you read on further in Psalm 109, after a long list of various requested curses ending in verse 20, King David says this, "Let this be the reward of my accusers from the Lord, and of those who speak evil against my soul.  But Thou, o God, the Lord, deal kindly with me for Thy name's sake; because Thy lovingkindness is good, deliver me."

Hallelujah!  The Obama accusers are calling for their days to be few and for Obama to be delivered from tribulation.  Who knew they could be so tolerant.

One of your many fans,

Bob H

I realize this will be lost on the "Irony Challenged" wingers, but I think they should know that they should be really careful what they ask for!

Originally posted to TechBob on Fri Nov 20, 2009 at 06:01 PM PST.

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  •  Oh the delicious just desserts (7+ / 0-)

    Teabagger, Birthers, Psalmers,  Pox on you!!

    "My brothers keeper"

    by Reetz on Fri Nov 20, 2009 at 06:06:54 PM PST

  •  Wonder who will be brave enough (5+ / 0-)

    to tell them that they just fell in the hole they tried to dig under Obama.

    GOP=Grand Obstructionist Party

    by Christian Dem in NC on Fri Nov 20, 2009 at 06:07:10 PM PST

  •  Oh Yeah? Well What About How The Preamble (3+ / 0-)

    to the constitution talks about life, liberty and the pursuit of happyness?  How do you explain THAT one Mr. this is what the text actually means dude?!

    Snark aside, one thing I love about our side of the great political divide is how we look at the real meaning behind events/text/law/news etc...  The trademark of the modern day neocon is a snap judgement on the subject matter at hand and a loud mouthed defense of said snap judgement.  

    It's why alot of them don't get Steven Colbert.

    I am the neo-con nightmare, I am a liberal with the facts.

    by bhfrik on Fri Nov 20, 2009 at 06:10:38 PM PST

  •  When you believe in fairy tales (10+ / 0-)

    thinking things through and looking at context is optional.

    "Enlighten the people, generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like spirits at the dawn of day" - Thomas Jefferson

    by sangemon on Fri Nov 20, 2009 at 06:11:20 PM PST

    •  Well..... (0+ / 0-)

      Only optional if you just happen to control the mind of everybody else in the entire world.  Credibility didn't die because Bush was elected, and these freaks who scream for Jesus and attempt to force their authority on everybody don't make any sense when they can't even read for themselves.

      Republicans are the masters of assumed authority.  And they never seem to cross it into real authority.  They are their own greatest folly.

    •  OMG! Does this mean Gov. Sanford (0+ / 0-)

      can call out to his maker that those recommending Impeachment and studying his ethics violations should have the wrath of G-d smiting them till doomsday? See this story that just broke at NYT: Impeaching Sanford at NYT

  •  Proverbs 26:7 (7+ / 0-)

    "Like a lame man's legs, which hang useless,
          is a proverb in the mouth of fools."

    "When all you have is an assault rifle every problem looks like a target." - Something the Dog Said

    by PvtJarHead on Fri Nov 20, 2009 at 06:17:05 PM PST

  •  Complete text of Psalm 109 (KJV) (11+ / 0-)

    1  Hold not thy peace, O God of my praise;

    2  for the mouth of the wicked and the mouth of the deceitful are opened against me:
            they have spoken against me with a lying tongue.

    3  They compassed me about also with words of hatred;
            and fought against me without a cause.

    4  For my love they are my adversaries:
            but I give myself unto prayer.

    5  And they have rewarded me evil for good,
            and hatred for my love.

    6  Set thou a wicked man over him:
            and let Satan stand at his right hand.

    7  When he shall be judged, let him be condemned:
            and let his prayer become sin.

    8  Let his days be few;
            and let another take his office. Acts 1.20  

    9  Let his children be fatherless,
            and his wife a widow.

    10  Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg:
            let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places.

    11  Let the extortioner catch all that he hath;
            and let the strangers spoil his labor.

    12  Let there be none to extend mercy unto him:
            neither let there be any to favor his fatherless children.

    13  Let his posterity be cut off;
            and in the generation following let their name be blotted out.

    14  Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the LORD;
            and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out.

    15  Let them be before the LORD continually,
            that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth.

    16  Because that he remembered not to show mercy,
            but persecuted the poor and needy man,
    that he might even slay the broken in heart.

    17  As he loved cursing,
            so let it come unto him:
    as he delighted not in blessing,
    so let it be far from him.

    18  As he clothed himself with cursing like as with his garment,
            so let it come into his bowels like water,
    and like oil into his bones.

    19  Let it be unto him as the garment which covereth him,
            and for a girdle wherewith he is girded continually.

    20  Let this be the reward of mine adversaries from the LORD,
            and of them that speak evil against my soul.

    21  But do thou for me, O GOD the Lord, for thy name's sake:
            because thy mercy is good, deliver thou me.

    22  For I am poor and needy,
            and my heart is wounded within me.

    23  I am gone like the shadow when it declineth:
            I am tossed up and down as the locust.

    24  My knees are weak through fasting;
            and my flesh faileth of fatness.

    25  I became also a reproach unto them:
            when they looked upon me they shook their heads.

    26  Help me, O LORD my God:
            O save me according to thy mercy:

    27  that they may know that this is thy hand;
            that thou, LORD, hast done it.

    28  Let them curse, but bless thou:
            when they arise, let them be ashamed;
    but let thy servant rejoice.

    29  Let mine adversaries be clothed with shame;
            and let them cover themselves with their own confusion, as with a mantle.

    30  I will greatly praise the LORD with my mouth;
            yea, I will praise him among the multitude.

    31  For he shall stand at the right hand of the poor,
            to save him from those that condemn his soul.

    "Let reverence for the laws . . . become the political religion of the nation." ~ Abraham Lincoln

    by noweasels on Fri Nov 20, 2009 at 06:18:54 PM PST

    •  Here's NLT translation (3+ / 0-)
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      Cedwyn, defluxion10, Larsstephens

      link...

      pretty ironic in context...

      1 For the choir director: A psalm of David. O God, whom I praise, don't stand silent and aloof 2 while the wicked slander me and tell lies about me. 3 They are all around me with their hateful words, and they fight against me for no reason. 4 I love them, but they try to destroy me – even as I am praying for them! 5 They return evil for good, and hatred for my love. 6 Arrange for an evil person to turn on him. Send an accuser to bring him to trial. 7 When his case is called for judgment, let him be pronounced guilty. Count his prayers as sins. 8 Let his years be few; let his position be given to someone else. 9 May his children become fatherless, and may his wife become a widow. 10 May his children wander as beggars; may they be evicted from their ruined homes. 11 May creditors seize his entire estate, and strangers take all he has earned. 12 Let no one be kind to him; let no one pity his fatherless children. 13 May all his offspring die. May his family name be blotted out in a single generation. 14 May the LORD never forget the sins of his ancestors; may his mother's sins never be erased from the record. 15 May these sins always remain before the LORD, but may his name be cut off from human memory. 16 For he refused all kindness to others; he persecuted the poor and needy, and he hounded the brokenhearted to death. 17 He loved to curse others; now you curse him. He never blessed others; now don't you bless him. 18 Cursing is as much a part of him as his clothing, or as the water he drinks, or the rich food he eats. 19 Now may his curses return and cling to him like clothing; may they be tied around him like a belt. 20 May those curses become the LORD's punishment for my accusers who are plotting against my life. 21 But deal well with me, O Sovereign LORD, for the sake of your own reputation! Rescue me because you are so faithful and good. 22 For I am poor and needy, and my heart is full of pain. 23 I am fading like a shadow at dusk; I am falling like a grasshopper that is brushed aside. 24 My knees are weak from fasting, and I am skin and bones. 25 I am an object of mockery to people everywhere; when they see me, they shake their heads. 26 Help me, O LORD my God! Save me because of your unfailing love. 27 Let them see that this is your doing, that you yourself have done it, LORD. 28 Then let them curse me if they like, but you will bless me! When they attack me, they will be disgraced! But I, your servant, will go right on rejoicing! 29 Make their humiliation obvious to all; clothe my accusers with disgrace. 30 But I will give repeated thanks to the LORD, praising him to everyone. 31 For he stands beside the needy, ready to save them from those who condemn them.

      the chickens are restless

      by chikindolfin on Fri Nov 20, 2009 at 06:22:25 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Sorry to do this (5+ / 0-)

        But here it is the same version with the formatting (plus footnotes) in place.  I think it will be easier for most to read.

        1 O God, whom I praise,
              do not remain silent,

        2 for wicked and deceitful men
              have opened their mouths against me;
              they have spoken against me with lying tongues.

        3 With words of hatred they surround me;
              they attack me without cause.

        4 In return for my friendship they accuse me,
              but I am a man of prayer.

        5 They repay me evil for good,
              and hatred for my friendship.

        6 Appoint [a] an evil man [b] to oppose him;
              let an accuser [c] stand at his right hand.

        7 When he is tried, let him be found guilty,
              and may his prayers condemn him.

        8 May his days be few;
              may another take his place of leadership.

        9 May his children be fatherless
              and his wife a widow.

        10 May his children be wandering beggars;
              may they be driven [d] from their ruined homes.

        11 May a creditor seize all he has;
              may strangers plunder the fruits of his labor.

        12 May no one extend kindness to him
              or take pity on his fatherless children.

        13 May his descendants be cut off,
              their names blotted out from the next generation.

        14 May the iniquity of his fathers be remembered before the LORD;
              may the sin of his mother never be blotted out.

        15 May their sins always remain before the LORD,
              that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth.

        16 For he never thought of doing a kindness,
              but hounded to death the poor
              and the needy and the brokenhearted.

        17 He loved to pronounce a curse—
              may it [e] come on him;
              he found no pleasure in blessing—
              may it be [f] far from him.

        18 He wore cursing as his garment;
              it entered into his body like water,
              into his bones like oil.

        19 May it be like a cloak wrapped about him,
              like a belt tied forever around him.

        20 May this be the LORD's payment to my accusers,
              to those who speak evil of me.

        21 But you, O Sovereign LORD,
              deal well with me for your name's sake;
              out of the goodness of your love, deliver me.

        22 For I am poor and needy,
              and my heart is wounded within me.

        23 I fade away like an evening shadow;
              I am shaken off like a locust.

        24 My knees give way from fasting;
              my body is thin and gaunt.

        25 I am an object of scorn to my accusers;
              when they see me, they shake their heads.

        26 Help me, O LORD my God;
              save me in accordance with your love.

        27 Let them know that it is your hand,
              that you, O LORD, have done it.

        28 They may curse, but you will bless;
              when they attack they will be put to shame,
              but your servant will rejoice.

        29 My accusers will be clothed with disgrace
              and wrapped in shame as in a cloak.

        30 With my mouth I will greatly extol the LORD;
              in the great throng I will praise him.

        31 For he stands at the right hand of the needy one,
              to save his life from those who condemn him.

        Footnotes:

          1. Psalm 109:6 Or They say: "Appoint (with quotation marks at the end of verse 19)
          2. Psalm 109:6 Or the Evil One
          3. Psalm 109:6 Or let Satan
          4. Psalm 109:10 Septuagint; Hebrew sought
          5. Psalm 109:17 Or curse, / and it has
          6. Psalm 109:17 Or blessing, / and it is

        "My greatest strength, I guess it would be my humility. Greatest weakness, it's possible that I'm a little too awesome." -Barack Obama 10/16/08

        by Hopeful Skeptic on Fri Nov 20, 2009 at 06:27:58 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  the footnotes somehow got numbered (1+ / 0-)
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          defluxion10

          Here they are with their proper letters:

            a. Psalm 109:6 Or  They say:   "Appoint  (with quotation marks at the end of verse 19)
            b. Psalm 109:6 Or the Evil One
            c. Psalm 109:6 Or let Satan
            d. Psalm 109:10 Septuagint; Hebrew sought
            e. Psalm 109:17 Or curse, / and it has
            f. Psalm 109:17 Or blessing, / and it is

          "My greatest strength, I guess it would be my humility. Greatest weakness, it's possible that I'm a little too awesome." -Barack Obama 10/16/08

          by Hopeful Skeptic on Fri Nov 20, 2009 at 06:30:22 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

    •  Man when David ask God to bring down his Wrath (4+ / 0-)
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      Cedwyn, noweasels, ChocolateChris, mod2lib

      he doesn't mess around and ask for just a slap on the wrist,David wants them hammered.

  •  My favorite part (13+ / 0-)

    2 for wicked and deceitful men
          have opened their mouths against me;
          they have spoken against me with lying tongues.

    3 With words of hatred they surround me;
          they attack me without cause.

    How the heck did King David predict Fox News and Teabaggers???

    Oh.. the irony, indeed!

    "My greatest strength, I guess it would be my humility. Greatest weakness, it's possible that I'm a little too awesome." -Barack Obama 10/16/08

    by Hopeful Skeptic on Fri Nov 20, 2009 at 06:25:45 PM PST

  •  Thanks for this catch! (3+ / 0-)

    I haven't had time to check this all out so am glad someone else did.

  •  Diary confuses Christianity with god. (1+ / 0-)
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    shortgirl

    The Christian stuff that's quoted was all written in 1000AD by some zany European monks after multiple translations and..ahem...revisions from Aramaic to Greek to Latin to English over the previous 1000 years.

    There are no originals to check (convenient that) so what you have today is a medieval European religion created by monks in large part to support fuedal government.

    Quoting that as the "word of god" or parsing commas and sentences is pointless.

    The racist GOP'ers will cite anything to support their beliefs.

  •  Especially If This God Decided to Show Up and Be (3+ / 0-)
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    bound by that magical spell.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Fri Nov 20, 2009 at 06:41:25 PM PST

  •  A little proof-texting is a (8+ / 0-)

    ...dangerous thing.

    There is a story about a country store owner in the Carolinas.  Each morning when he opened his store, he opened his Bible and picked two verses at random as his guide for the day.  Until the morning that he picked:

    And Judas hanged himself

    and on the second pick got:

    Go thou and do likewise

    I cannot say what the truth may be, but here 'tis as 'twas told to me -- Robert Quillen

    50 states, 210 media market, 435 Congressional Districts, 3080 counties, 192,480 precincts

    by TarheelDem on Fri Nov 20, 2009 at 06:49:17 PM PST

  •  Battle of the bible rants! (1+ / 0-)
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    I can't believe they
    have forgotten so soon
    about how all of this
    has been working for them.

  •  Dueling Psalms (58:2-4) (2+ / 0-)
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    Since quoting the Bible is such a fun game, how about using Psalm 58:2-4 on a Sarah t-shirt (or, better yet, straightjacket).  In the New International Version it reads:

    No, in your heart you devise injustice,
          and your hands mete out violence on the earth.

    Even from birth the wicked go astray;
          from the womb they are wayward and speak lies.

    Their venom is like the venom of a snake,
          like that of a cobra that has stopped its ears,

  •  My friend and I were discussing this earlier (5+ / 0-)

    and we concluded THIS is why people shouldn't pick and choose from the Bible to suit their personal grudges.

    For one, their spin looks dangerously close to calling for an assassination and the proper context makes them look like complete asses who are actually calling Obama that which they would least want to call him: righteous.

    Jennifer

  •  Oblig Chief Wiggum and good catch! (1+ / 0-)
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    marzook

    "The bible says a lot of things".

    If you didn't like the news today, go out and make some of your own.

    by jgnyc on Fri Nov 20, 2009 at 07:40:07 PM PST

  •  Does the whole (0+ / 0-)

    you will be measured with the toll you use to measure others thing cover this also.  I always thought that that is why they are calling doom onto themselves.

    That passed by; this can, too. - Deor

    by stevie avebury on Fri Nov 20, 2009 at 08:43:45 PM PST

  •  You might have noted (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    maybeeso in michigan

    that I raised this in my comment:

    Somewhere in the comments must be (3+ / 0-)

    a suggestion to pull a Biblical quote that calls for blessings on the president and his family.

    I suggest a look at the same Psalm, but the part after the hateful part:

    26 Help me, O LORD my God!
     Save me according to your steadfast love!

    27 Let them know that this is your hand;
     you, O LORD, have done it!

    28 Let them curse, but you will bless!
     They arise and are put to shame, but your servant will be glad!

    29 May my accusers be clothed with dishonor;
     may they be wrapped in their own shame as in a cloak!

    30 With my mouth I will give great thanks to the LORD; I will praise him in the midst of the throng.

    31 For he stands at the right hand of the needy one,
     to save him from those who condemn his soul to death.
    I must be dreaming...

    by murphy on Thu Nov 19, 2009 at 03:31:07 PM PST

    I must be dreaming...

    by murphy on Fri Nov 20, 2009 at 10:03:33 PM PST

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