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KKK Rally At Ole Miss: Klan Outnumbered By Protesters (PHOTOS, VIDEOS)

Says it all, really.

I have pointed out the consequences of measurements showing that the South is shifting on race and other social issues by about 2% annually. We are within 15-20 years of the entire South tipping politically. It is just a matter of finding the right candidates to challenge the Good Old White Boys incumbent power structure. As in the Governor's race in Alabama, where the Black candidate, Artur Davis, is ahead in the polls for next year.

Here's the occasion for the kerfuffle.

The KKK gathered at Ole Miss today to protest the University chancellor's decision to remove "From Dixie with Love" from the school band's song list. The song had drawn controversy because some fans chanted "the South will rise again" when it was played at Ole Miss football games.

And how it played out. Ten or a dozen Klansmen in fancy robes vs. about 250 students. (AP estimate)

The real story of the day was the students, faculty, staff and alumni who gathered peacefully and read the University's creed in unison repeatedly a few hundred feet from where the Klan had gathered. Organized by One Mississippi, a student group working towards greater social integration at Ole Miss, protesters wore shirts that said "TURN YOUR BACK ON HATE... (I live by the UM Creed)" and stickers with one simple word: "Unity." Before and after the rally, they talked to fans in town for the game about their message and plan to make their way through the 10-acre, park-like Grove, passing out copies of the UM creed to fans.

Today, the members of the real Ole Miss family were not afraid to show their faces. They were not afraid of the Klansmen. They stood with their backs to them. They stood together to say with one voice that Ole Miss "believe(s) in respect for the dignity of each person." They stood as the leaders of a new Mississippi, a Mississippi that her citizens and a nation can be proud of.

I am proud.

Now how about a nice slice of supersweet Southern pecan pie? Or perhaps peach? Would you like iced tea with that?

Originally posted to Mokurai on Sun Nov 22, 2009 at 02:07 PM PST.

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  •  You can be Republican and anti-Klan... (0+ / 0-)

    When is the last time the Obama Administration has pleasantly surprised you - Made you think to yourself "Wow, I didn't think they had that in them"?

    by Jonze on Sun Nov 22, 2009 at 02:14:44 PM PST

  •  The KKK (8+ / 0-)

    Just like all other terrorist groups, they need to cover their faces and hide their identity.  The only difference between the clan and alQaeda is skin tone and religious preference.

  •  The centuries old era of bigotry (12+ / 0-)

    slowly but surely is being piled off like an onion layer. Kudos to those who stepped up at Ole Miss.

    ...We have many more issues that bind us together than separate us!

    by ThisIsMyTime on Sun Nov 22, 2009 at 02:27:50 PM PST

  •  How many of those students... (5+ / 0-)

    ...are from the Not-South?

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    by MNPundit on Sun Nov 22, 2009 at 02:28:06 PM PST

    •  35% of students are from out (6+ / 0-)

      of state. The percentage of those from beyond the South is probably much lower.

      •  University of MS Demographics (2+ / 0-)
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        Here's some relevant information even though I wasn't able to find out the % of in-state vs out-of-state students

        The University of Mississippi, one of Mississippi's top universities, was established in 1848. The school is known by its students, alumni and fans as Ole Miss. The main campus is located in Oxford, in northern Mississippi. There are a large number of different colleges within the university, some of which are the Schools of Accountancy, Nursing, Engineering, Law, Pharmacology, and more.

        Student Demographics

        Student Population Number of Students
        Total enrollment:   14,901
        Undergraduate enrollment: 12,197

        Undergraduate Enrollment Statistics Percentage of Population
             Men: 47.20%
             Women: 52.80%
             Non-resident alien: 1.20%
             Black non-Hispanic: 13.20%
             American Indian or Alaskan Native: 0.30%
             Asian or Pacific Islander: 1.10%
             Hispanic: 0.80%
             White non-Hispanic: 82.90%
             Race-ethnicity unknown: 0.60%

        City of Oxford, Mississippi Demographics


        Total Population 11,756

        Population Statistics Percentage of Population
        Male 50.20%
        Female 49.80%
        Under 18 14.90%
        18+ 85.10%
        65+ 13.00%


        Ethnicity Statistics Percentage of Population
        White 75.00%
        African-American 21.00%
        Asian 2.70%
        American Indian & Alaskan 0.10%
        Other 0%
        Mixed Race 0.90%
        Hispanic 1%

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        by JekyllnHyde on Sun Nov 22, 2009 at 03:09:59 PM PST

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    •  More importantly, how many of the white students (3+ / 0-)
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      are from the south? The deep south? (It's a difference that matters. . .)

      Ok, so I read the polls.

      by andgarden on Sun Nov 22, 2009 at 02:45:16 PM PST

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      •  Likely a Huge Factor.... (1+ / 0-)
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        andgarden

        I'd guess the left-leaning campuses in the South (Chapel Hill, NC; Athens, GA) don't have a very high ratio of native Southerners.  On the other hand, Auburn, AL, and Stillwater, OK, would seem to be a destination for far more native Southerners.

        •  My impression is that Oxford in particular (0+ / 0-)

          draws native white southerners, but not the "rural rubes" (for want of a better description). Rather, it's the kind of place where you'd expect to find the children of southern white Republican members of Congress.

          Ok, so I read the polls.

          by andgarden on Sun Nov 22, 2009 at 03:26:48 PM PST

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          •  I went there (1+ / 0-)
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            andgarden

            (granted, about two decades ago)-- it's like a less-smart Vanderbilt, or probably not too far from SMU, etc.  Very traditional, conservative, relatively privileged, massively Greek, and so on.

            "Conservative principles" are marketing props used by the Conservative Movement to achieve political power, not actual beliefs. -Glenn Greenwald

            by latts on Sun Nov 22, 2009 at 03:31:59 PM PST

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        •  Incorrect assumption (2+ / 0-)
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          UNC Chapel Hill is 85% in-state students by state law.  The out-of-staters, by my rough estimation, were about 50-50 Southern/non-Southern (lots of GA and VA).  The grad students were from all over; but the undergrads were at least 9-to-1 Southern.

          You could argue that their families might have moved recently from the North -- but the overwhelming ratio of Southern accents in my classes belied that assumption.

          "Everyone is stupid but me" must be quite a burden to bear.

          by cardinal on Sun Nov 22, 2009 at 06:12:35 PM PST

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    •  Excellent question, very telling response from (3+ / 0-)
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      Indexer. I'd say that's a good marker for determining a shift in the Ole South. Thanks to MNPundit for the info.

    •  Don't know, but 31% out-of-state (0+ / 0-)

      Facts & Statistics 2007-08

      Total enrollment on all of The University of Mississippi’s campuses, including The University of Mississippi Medical Center, is 17,323.  Sixty-nine percent of all students are from Mississippi, and 19 percent of students are minorities.

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      by Mokurai on Mon Nov 23, 2009 at 12:24:56 AM PST

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  •  Good news, indeed. My last ... (4+ / 0-)

    ...lengthy time in Mississippi (summer of 1964) wasn't so encouraging.

    Any possibility you could link or publish that creed? I think a lot of people would like to see it.

    Don't tell me what you believe. Tell me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

    by Meteor Blades on Sun Nov 22, 2009 at 02:42:20 PM PST

  •  true dat (10+ / 0-)

    I live in Mississipppi, so I've seen this.  Things like racism change generationally, and the young people down here just aren't buying that shit anymore.  Now that they go to school with black kids and have black friends, racism is absurd to most of them.  

    Plus, conservatives down here have overplayed their hand, and they've built up a backlash.  The conservatives have started behaving like a Baptist Taliban and have gotten so overbearing that the younger people are starting to rebel against it, kinda like the crowds in Iran are going against their clerics... but quieter.  

    Republicanism only holds on down here because the South is very into tradition (you tend to vote the way your daddy voted) and because of religion (also slipping) -- they think the GOP is the "Jesus party" -- but all of that is fading out.   Not fast enough to please me, o' course, but I definitely see it happening.  

    Conservatism is mostly an old-people's game, and as they die out, so will their ideology... and all the pathetic failures it's brought with it.

    "Glenn Beck ends up looking like a fat, stupid child. His face should be wearing a chef's hat on the side of a box of eclairs. " - Doug Stanhope

    by Front Toward Enemy on Sun Nov 22, 2009 at 02:45:39 PM PST

  •  From your lips to the ears of at least one of the (3+ / 0-)
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    gods in which I don't believe.

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    by lockewasright on Sun Nov 22, 2009 at 02:48:57 PM PST

  •  Thanks for posting this diary. (1+ / 0-)
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    Good news on a Sunday afternoon.

  •  It depends (1+ / 0-)
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    Loge

    The following southern states should become competitive for the Democrats:

    VA
    NC
    GA
    FL
    TX

    VA voted for Obama. Though McDonnell won the VA Governorship, as I see that win asn outlier, I think that the Democrats will fare better in future elections. Exurban and suburban DC did trend Republican in 2009, but that is mainly due to the fact that Deeds was a bad candidate. When the Democrats nominate someone competent, as the trend in NVA is still toward the blue team, VA should be a battleground.

    NC never really turned to the GOP. Although it voted Republican for president Democrats still win elections regularly. As Charlotte, Raleigh-Durham, and Chapel Hill continue to grow and become cosmopolitan, the Democrats should get the upper hand.

    GA depends on Atlanta and its suburbs. Obama was able to get 45% in once solidly Republican Cobb and Gwinnett counties. He also carried Douglas, Newton, and Rockdale counties in suburban Atlanta. What keeps GA solidly red for now are the exurban counties outside of the inner suburbs like Cherokee, Coweta, Dawson, and Forsyth counties. They still turn in 75%-80%+ for the GOP candidates. If the Democrats can get to 30-40% in these counties and win Cobb and Gwinett outright, then they can win GA. That will probably take several election cycles.

    Obama won FL. Future Democratic success there hinges on the I-4 corridor and holding onto SE FL. Also, as Cuba starts to matter less, I think that the Miami Cubans will moderate over time.

    TX depends a lot on the big urban areas. Obama carried the major cities, but lost badly in the suburbs. The GOP path to victory in TX is to dominate the state's rural areas and win in the suburbs and exurbs of its major cities. While Obama carried Dallas and Harris county, in the suburbs around them both, he lost badly. In places like Colin and Denton counties he barley got 30% of the vote.

    For Democrats to win TX they will need to bring out the Hispanic vote and improve their standing in the Austin, Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio suburbs. If they can win the cities and do well in the suburbs, when you add that to the Hispanic vote in the southern part of the state, that will be enough to win. And that will eventually happen but we are several cycles away from that.  

    These southern states, although they voted for Clinton in the past, are the next tier. They are likely to stay Republican, but might vote Democratic in landslide years:

    KY
    TN
    AR
    LA

    These southern states, however, are likely to be totally out of reach for the Democrats.

    SC
    AL
    MS
    OK

    These states are primarily rural, don't have major cities, and are too conservative.

    •  South Carolina has been growing a lot recently. (1+ / 0-)
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      It's been ever so slightly moving back in the Democratic direction.

      "Intolerance is something which belongs to the religions we have rejected." - J.J. Rousseau

      by James Allen on Sun Nov 22, 2009 at 03:32:09 PM PST

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      •  Well (0+ / 0-)

        For South Carolina to turn it would need to have an Atlanta. It doesn't. Unless snowbirds start retiring en masse in Charleston and other beachfront cities from places like NYC it's not going to be a place for Democrats to compete.

    •  VA Youth Definitely more Liberal (1+ / 0-)
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      Woody

      I live in Hanover County, with the third lowest percentage voting for Kerry in 2004 of all local jurisdictions in the state/commonwealth.  I also live in the western part of the county which is more conservative than the eastern, more urban area.  The HS is Patrick Henry and it schools the children of some of the most conservative people in the state.

      Well the kids get it, or should I say they don't get the racism (largely).  They mostly think nothing of blacks dating whites, or that there is anything wrong with people that have feelings for others of the same gender.  That is just the way it is to many of them and its all OK.

      I am personally very encouraged that when my generation dies (note that I am not eager for that to happen) racism and homophobia will die with us.

    •  Depends how far ahead you look (0+ / 0-)

      I'm looking at the Deep South tipping on social issues in 10-15 years, purely on demographics. Cannibalism in the rump Republican Party could accelerate that.

      If a Black Governor really wins in Alabama next year, I'll be delighted to be off in my estimates. ^_^ I'm waiting to see if the White candidate gets Tea Partied.

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      by Mokurai on Mon Nov 23, 2009 at 12:32:04 AM PST

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  •  This is pie! (0+ / 0-)

    you give me great hope that the young people of this country will keep standing up against racism and bigotry.

    Thank you for your diary.

  •  Yeah... the kids are indeed alright. (0+ / 0-)

    Coming up next: paradigm shift.

    I'm with the diarist on this one :-)

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    by Immigrant Punk on Sun Nov 22, 2009 at 06:10:09 PM PST

  •  I teach in the Young South (1+ / 0-)
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    . . .it's definitely ours.  The Southern haters that dominate dKos would think they were in the twilight zone if they were ever to visit one of my classrooms.  This is a very wealthy school, so many students are fiscally conservative.  But racism, gay bashing, etc., are simply not tolerated in that generation.

    "Everyone is stupid but me" must be quite a burden to bear.

    by cardinal on Sun Nov 22, 2009 at 06:17:05 PM PST

    •  Well, the exit poll data is not so encouraging (1+ / 0-)
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      18-29 yr old whites in MS voted 81-18 for McCain. That's worse than whites overall in Georgia. That's almost worse than self-IDd Republicans in New York.

      But the inference that I make, which I guess you might not accept, is that such voting is race-based in many parts of the south. I think, given the history, it's a fair presumption. But I would accept that it's rebuttable. (As in, let's see what happens in 2012).

      Ok, so I read the polls.

      by andgarden on Sun Nov 22, 2009 at 08:11:34 PM PST

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      •  I agree that voting has been (1+ / 0-)
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        race-based in parts of the South.  It's always hard to isolate the factors that led to someone's vote -- but the best poli sci studies I've seen suggest a strong hidden racial component to post-Southern realignment Republican voting.

        I'm not sure about those exit polls, though.  The 18-29 White crosstabs aren't particularly reliable, since there were only about 100 respondents.  But I obviously don't have any data to refute it directly.

        I also teach in urban Texas, having come from North Carolina.  I haven't been to MS in 30 years, so I have no basis for making any personal observations about it.  But it's certainly plausible to think that my students in the high-tech, fast-growing, urban edge of the South would be different from Mississippians.  

        "Everyone is stupid but me" must be quite a burden to bear.

        by cardinal on Sun Nov 22, 2009 at 08:57:05 PM PST

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        •  Texas is better (1+ / 0-)
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          but not by much. NC is a whole other story. Young whites there are vastly different from older whites. I don't know what explains that, but I think Chuck Todd's point that Virginia and North Carolina are "seceding from the Confederacy" seems apt here.

          I put my money on northern migration, frankly. And that's why I subscribe to the Schaller thesis.

          Ok, so I read the polls.

          by andgarden on Sun Nov 22, 2009 at 09:06:09 PM PST

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