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Despite all the evidence that show with zero shadow of doubt that the last compromise in the Senate healthcare bill is nothing but utter defeat for the public option and for the progressive demands for healthcare, let us convince ourselves on this forum that this healthcare is good.

Now let us go the extra mile and convince ourselves that it is great, and I even will ask you folks to go one more mile and convince ourselves that this is the greatest piece of legislation since Social Security. On a personal level I am now convincing myself that it is the greatest piece of legislation ever. My self convincing on this matter shall be achieved by no later than 3:34 PM PST today December 9 2009.

It is always great to feel great and create an alternative reality. What a wonderful thing our mind can be when we detach ourselves form the harsh reality and utter political defeat and tell ourselves that everything is great and not only great but super great and not only super great but the best ever.

So let us all embark on this journey of self delusions.

Originally posted to johndeebo on Wed Dec 09, 2009 at 08:19 AM PST.

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    •  Limit on out of pocket costs for poor (0+ / 0-)

      Thats a good thing. So, now somebody who is poor has a limit of $5000 on out of pocket costs, $10,000 for families. Until you make more than that limit, you are protected from having to pay potentially an unlimited amount of uncovered costs. So, the working poor still have to pay, as long as they continue working, but the retired who are living off investments sometimes wont.

      A small family will have to pay if they have two wage earners, but if they have one (and lots of savings) they might not have to.

      A single adult with lots onf money in the bank but low income will do well. As long as they areen't lying, because if they will, they could go to jail and have to repay a lot of money.

      I think we will see lots of chronically ill (treated to the "standard of care") people working for free to avoid holes in their resumes while not going over that income limit.

      Most of the 101,000 people who die each year of preventable causes, and 80,000 who die of careless mistakes, "have insurance"

      by Andiamo on Wed Dec 09, 2009 at 10:10:32 AM PST

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  •  Yikes Well Clearly You've Read it and I Haven't (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Superribbie, TexMex, gramofsam1, Inkin

    Which section do you think is the worst?

    I'm not so old that I think Nickelback sounds just like Creed, but I'm old enough that I think they both sound like shit.

    by TooFolkGR on Wed Dec 09, 2009 at 08:19:56 AM PST

  •  I would bet that over half of people here (6+ / 0-)

    could not offer an accurate, detailed, and cogent definition of any proposed version of the "public option." It has become nothing more than a sacred cow on the left, and we know the fate of most sacred cows.

  •  Of course it is (0+ / 0-)

    Nobody knows what's in the bill.  So we can make whatever optimistic assumptions we want and we know they'll be true.  I'm sure that the Federal health option is really a true expansion of the Federal employee health insurance plan that chooses to contract to a private plan administrator, and not a meaningless relabeling of junk insurance.  I'm sure that the public option trigger will trigger if the insurance industry doesn't clean up their act fast.  I'm sure that there are actually more a handful of sick people who are eligible for Medicare expansion.

    I know this because I read it in the paper.  And if it's in the paper (and especially if they're quoting Harry Reid) it must be true.

  •  the question is not so much is it a sucess (2+ / 0-)
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    Superribbie, steve davis

    on an absolute level (it isn't) as it is whether it is a success on the incremental level ... does it make life better in the short term and can it be the catalyst for further improvement down the road.

    That is a more interesting, debatable point.

  •  You left out the best part! (0+ / 0-)

    We'll be completely out of Afghanistan in just 18 months!

  •  "harsh reality" - another Obama lie (0+ / 0-)
    What does this President LIE?

    "President Barack Obama told the American people in a national speech in September that "my" health care plan would not include taxpayer funding of abortion. Obama broke that pledge once by lobbying members of the House to support a pro-abortion funding bill and he did it again this weekend in the Senate.

    Obama met with Senate Democrats in a closed door session on Sunday and told them to support the Harry Reid-sponsored bill that includes massive abortion funding and could force insurance companies to cover abortions with taxpayer's premiums.

    Although the media wasn't allowed into the event, senators described the speech as one in which Obama asked them for their votes for the bill and said voting for the legislation was a historic opportunity."

    Look like old Joe Wilson was telling the truth!

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