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Yesterday on MSNBC’s Hardball, Chris Matthews thought it might be fun to trot out the Obama administration's talking point du jour, that Democratic critics of the Senate health care bill are really just a bunch of irrational cheeto-eating surrender monkeys.

MATTHEWS: I don’t consider them Democrats, I consider them netroots, and they’re different. And if I see that they vote in every election or most elections, I’ll be worried. But I’m not sure that they’re regular grown-up Democrats. I think that a lot of those people are troublemakers who love to sit in the backseat and complain. They’re not interested in governing this country. They never ran for office, they’re not interested in working for somebody in public office. They get their giggles from sitting in the backseat and bitching.

Chris Matthews, surely you don't mean me? Because if you're laughing at me, the joke's on you.

Of course, I do blog, and yes, I do get most of my news and information from blogs.  Mostly because of pundits like you -  who may or may not eat cheetos, but who surrendered their journalistic integrity a long, long time ago.

See, if you had been paying even the slightest attention, you'd understand that some of the most vocal criticsof the Senate health care reform bill worked the hardest to get Barack Obama elected last year. We are Progressives, Independents, Decline-to-State, and Centrists. We vote religiously. We give generously.

And now we're at a crossroads.

Every day that goes by, we're more convinced that the health care reform in Congress willhurt more than it will help. We are not being ideological purists. We are not single-payer advocates. We are shocked at the level of naivete and magical thinking swirling around this debate from people we thought would know better.

At first we were patient. We held out hope that our President knew what he was doing, that he would keep up his end of the implied contract we entered into when we helped get him elected. We expected Change, we expected to be respected, empowered and included, we expected him to fight, and we expected to join him in that fight.

None of this has happened. And so we're going to speak truth to power. You may not like it, the White House may not like it, but you both underestimate our power at your peril. Because we're not troublemakers, we're organizers.

We know how to bypass the main steam media and theDSCC,  co-opt OFA's resources for activism we believe in, raise money-bombs for Alan Grayson and to go after Blue Dog Dems who oppose real health care reform.  We know how to canvass and how to phone bank. We can, and will, support a multitude of primary challengers against the entrenched corporate interests that just happen to call themselves Democrats.

The White House may not be afraid of us like they are big Pharma and the health insurance industry, but maybe, just maybe they should be.

Originally posted to msblucow on Fri Dec 18, 2009 at 08:18 AM PST.

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    •  Let's get better Democrats elected.... (1+ / 0-)
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      that I agree with.  But you have to face the reality that we are a coalition party.  Always was and always will be.  Accept it.  To get elected in red states to get a majority we have to run the right people.  Now I don't like it and we can at least get dems that are loyal to the platform.  But we don't want to go with teabags and have a purity test.  That is a effin mistake, but we need a bigger majority that share the basic principals of our platform.

      "I am not a member of an organized political party, I am Democrat." If we all agreed with each other we would be republicans."  --Mark Twain  (may not be the exact quote)

      •  What would the country look like if both parties (1+ / 0-)
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        enforced a little purity?  Honest question.

        "While there is a lower class, I am in it; while there is a criminal element, I am of it; while there is a soul in prison, I am not free!" -Eugene V. Debs

        by leftneck on Fri Dec 18, 2009 at 08:36:16 AM PST

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        •  More parties. (1+ / 0-)
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          We've had multi-party setups in the 19th century.

          The coalitions agreed in the 20th century to stop playing that game -- it threatened letting the apple cart roll over.

          So, any third party that starts dies -- because a multi-party system only works when no SINGLE party can gain control of the legislature.

          It's also why both parties have been deeply anti-regional -- the start of secondary parties has always been regional (which you see now with the teabagger rebellion).

      •  Nice slogan for Mark T. Nice for people here. (0+ / 0-)

        How does that 'I feel good' slogan help a country in deep crap govern?  Not being an organized party....How does it help?

        There are the CBC, Asian Pacific, The Blue dogs, the Latino/Latina caucus, the labor, etc.

        Does any one remember the Dems primary last year?  Does any one remember in 2007 watching C-span, and the Dems trying to conclude their primary rules?

        Folks, USA in in a mess.

        Stop the freaking fighting amongst yourselves.  Time waits for no one.

        No one person's opinion is the gospel.  This government and country need to move forward.  It can not if Dems just constantly argue with each other.

        Mrs. Pelosi seems to understand why can't the rest of the Dems?

    •  Actually He Means We Get THE WRONG Dems Elected (1+ / 0-)
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      He can count, he's not that stupid, he knows Obama won with a surge of internet-mobilized normally-lower-turnout voters.

      The real issue is that we force elite liberal Democrats on the highly conservative country that's everywhere except for his two oft-cited blue slivers on coasts.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Fri Dec 18, 2009 at 08:34:56 AM PST

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      •  Not exactly true -- (0+ / 0-)

        folks in the middle aren't ideologically conservative -- they're linguistically conservative.

        They've been trained to say things with conservative language. You can always have fun with them by getting them to tell you what they believe -- then point out that many of those points are LEFTIST and not RIGHTIST.

    •  Hi, Marta! (0+ / 0-)



      "He's one of these people who doesn't need much, much less much more."

      by Eclectablog on Fri Dec 18, 2009 at 09:18:37 AM PST

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  •  Matthews is wandering in some wilderness.. (4+ / 0-)
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    Floande, mallyroyal, Powell, allergywoman

    ...that only he seems to understand. He's gotten progressively worse for the past few years to the point where I can't even watch him. No one ever gets to finish a sentence on that show and little of what Matthews says is even cogent. So the people he occasionally has on whom you might want to hear from (Dean, for exammple) can never finish a point...and the only one who does Chris has nothing intelligent or informed to say. Why watch a show that has no value and pisses you off?

    I remember a poll taken on KOS a couple years ago that showed an average age of bloggers in the mid 40s and many more than average had advanced degrees.  If Matthews doesn't understand that we aren't kids eating pizza and smoking pot in our parents' basement, he is obsolete and irrelevant.  I think he has a fairly new 5 yr contract but I don't see how he can make it that long. Wonder how his ratings fare?

    •  He may have gotten an advance Dem memo- (1+ / 0-)
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      when HCR fails, blame the netroots. They have little voice and no support in the MSM.

      Elected Dems wont blame each other. We may have the bullseye, if tweety's position is a precursor to what is to come.

      Everyone knows how to talk, and no one knows what to say.

      by A Runner on Fri Dec 18, 2009 at 08:59:36 AM PST

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      •  Good point, A Runner... (0+ / 0-)

        ..I have been walking around mad since I heard Gibbs criticize Dean two days ago.  Wouldn't surprise me a bit if the netroots get blamed for any HCR failure, altho it's hard to belive that Matthews might be on top of that trend.  That man ain't on top of shit.  

  •  Good diary! I hope you will send it to Tweety. (1+ / 0-)
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    I saw his tirade and thought it was outrageous and totally out of touch.  He hasn't been following what's going on.

  •  Mr. Matthews is proving himself (1+ / 0-)
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    to be somewhat of a cantankerous old curmudgeon, and
    when he says "grown-up Democrats", he's clearly using the age card.

    Poo-pooing us kids is not a very smart idea, Mr. Matthews.

    "When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race." ~H.G. Wells

    by ridemybike on Fri Dec 18, 2009 at 08:54:16 AM PST

  •  Matthews: ever insightful. (0+ / 0-)

    He is part of trad med. they always trash us. bite me, tweety.

    Everyone knows how to talk, and no one knows what to say.

    by A Runner on Fri Dec 18, 2009 at 08:57:02 AM PST

  •  I thought he was liked here when he was (0+ / 0-)

    criticizing Hillary night after night.

    Don't give a damn a/t each & every politician currently alive in the US. Last time i voted for the top part of the ballot was 1972. Never missed SB election

    by Mutual Assured Destruction on Fri Dec 18, 2009 at 09:06:20 AM PST

  •  yes -- but we're not "professionals" (0+ / 0-)

    we're not "in the loop", we're not "technocrats".

    We've never counted -- we're the folks who give consent to our rulers. We're supposed to complain in the pubs -- we haven't been able to organize since the '60s.

    We're not "serious".


    I know friends of Tweety. He's a "serious" liberal, loves to quote Aquinas, etc. He's exactly who Chomsky talks about.

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