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The new lie currently being given flight by Dick Cheney is that President Obama does not believe we are at war. To paraphrase Mark Twain, a lie can travel halfway around the world before truth can even get its shoes on. Well, the professionals in charge of protecting our nation, including individuals who have worked in the Bush administration have stepped forward to attest to the fact that Dick Cheney is a liar.

Here is Cheney’s spin on the President:

As I watch the events of the last few days it is clear once again that President Obama is trying to pretend we are not at war. He seems to think if he has a low-key response to an attempt to blow up an airliner and kill hundreds of people, we won’t be at war.... He seems to think if we bring the mastermind of September 11 to New York, give him a lawyer and trial in civil court, we won’t be at war. He seems to think if he closes Guantanamo and releases the hard-core Al Qaeda-trained terrorists still there, we won’t be at war. He seems to think if he gets rid of the words, "war on terror," we won’t be at war. But we are at war, and when President Obama pretends we aren’t, it makes us less safe.

This morning on MSNBC’s Meet the Press with David Gregory, John Brennan, Deputy National Security Advisor for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism, was asked about the former Vice President’s comment. It should be noted that Brennan was interim director of the National Counterterrorism Center at its inception in 2004 through 2005.


I’m very disappointed in the Vice President’s comments.  I’m neither a Republican nor Democrat; I’ve worked for the past five administrations.   And either the Vice President is willfully mischaracterizing this President’s position, both in terms of language he uses and the actions he’s taken, or he’s ignorant of the facts, and in either case it doesn’t speak well for what the Vice President is doing. The clear evidence is that this President has been very very strong. In his inaugural address he said, "We’re at war with this international network of terrorist. "    We continue to say we’re at war with Al Qaeda, and we’ve take the fight to them.

Over the past year, we have all come to accept the former Vice President’s misrepresentations as routine, but to have a Deputy National Security Advisor of the United States suggests in public that the former Vice President is either ignorant or lying is, in my estimation, still a noteworthy occurance. Now, is President Obama unaware that he is involved in a war against Al Qaeda terrorists?  Is this more than just a bit silly? Silly or not, the media is giving credance to Cheney's remarks.

General Michael Hayden, who has also worked in the Bush administration and was director of the Central Intelligence Agency from 2006-2009, and director of the National Security Agency from 1999 to 2005, also appeared on the program and addressed this issue head-on:


I’m not going to comment on the current President or the former Vice President...But I will offer you a professional’s view on the current atmosphere, the highly charged atmosphere, in Washington. I would ask on behalf of the community, of which I used to be a part, for everyone to calm down a little bit; stop hyperventilating.

Gregory: Do you believe the President is adequately confronting this threat of terrorism?


I am heartened by the fact that the President has consistently said "we are at war with Al Qaeda and its affiliates."

And what say Michael Chertoff, the Bush administration's Secretary of Homeland Security from 2005-2009? Despite disagreeing with the Obama administration’s intention to bring Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to the United States for trial, the former Homeland Security head appeared on the program and testified that he too has heard the President mentioned the term "war with Al Qaeda."


Here I have to say that I agree with Mike and I agree with John. I think the President has repeatedly articulated his belief that we’re at war.

Finally, a question was asked about the current Secretary of Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano.

Gregory: Do you have confidence in your successor, Secretary Napolitano?


I do, I’ve known her a long time.  She’s got good skills set, she’s got great experience; her heart is in the right place, and I heartily endorse her.

The Right Wingers are busily searching for something to buoy their chances in the next two election cycles. As we all know, they will lie and do whatever it takes to improve their position, unfortunately the media will be lending them a helpful hand every step along the way. Small events will become catastrophic and big events will become apocalyptic. I have no doubt that his allies will continue to push this ridiculous meme about President Obama, but at least this morning Cheney’s lies became a big fail.

Meet the Press link:

Originally posted to NedSparks on Sun Jan 03, 2010 at 02:07 PM PST.

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  •  Thanks for the diary... (6+ / 0-)

    I've pretty much stopped watching MTP, getting tired of the type of guests they have and the often inane questions that are asked.

  •  good diary...i'd like to see how (5+ / 0-)

    many times they replay those interviews throughout the week and see if it compares to the number of times they gave Cheney's puke airtime.

    •  Maybe things might be changing. (3+ / 0-)
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      OleHippieChick, mos1133, vc2

      Washington Post, Politifact had pieces on the latest Cheney's mendacity.

      I know two does not make a trend.

      I think the repubs over played their hands this time.

      •  i would hope so...if there ever (3+ / 0-)
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        ksingh, OleHippieChick, Nena20409

        were two cases of attempted terrorism that were so similar that their responses could be compared and contrasted it would be the Shoe bomber vs Underwear bomber.  For Cheney and the repubs to be appalled at the Obama Admin's reaction to the underwear bomber is ridiculous based on their reaction to the shoe bomber.

      •  i think they have too (0+ / 0-)

        its rather like mccain picking palin after spending the primaries pounding on Obama's lack of experience. Shoot yourself in the foot time.  Doesn't matter if she excites the nuts.  It made him look like a hypocrite and a fool to most voters.  They may have voted with him but no longer had the same opinion of his honesty or anything else he pounded on obama for. (such as terrorist etc)

        "I know we will have differences. Put them aside. It is so easy to focus on where we don't agree and to lose the big picture. Fight until we win" -Kwickkick

        by vc2 on Sun Jan 03, 2010 at 05:22:16 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  McCain is the biggest Liar that gets away with (0+ / 0-)

          it because the media still considers him a Maverick.

          Nov 4 2008, McCain promised to work with pres-elect
          Obama.  Has he?  No.

          Last Month, McCain head faked an outrage over Senator Franken not allowing more time for Lieberman.

          It turned out, McCain did the same thing to Senators Dayton/Byrd in 2002 during the Iraq war debate.

  •  Is this supposed to be helpful? (1+ / 0-)
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    Lady Libertine

    Dick Cheney was a disaster for America.  Declaring "war" on a form of fighting was exactly what Obama bin Laden wanted.  It is ludicrous and continued acceptance of it will extend the PermaWar created by Dick Cheney and his ilk that is anathema to American values.

    Is Obama dealing with the problem of individuals seeking to blow up planes?  That is the question we should be discussing.  Not whether he is at war with a form of fighting.

    Please stop trying to answer setup questions by affirming idiotic frames constructed by a master of propaganda to benefit the military industrial complex and the mineral extraction companies.

    Oh and BTW Brennan was the guy who oversaw the torture program.  He has a HUGE stake in entering into a colloquy with Cheney and trying to make sure the Obama Administration affirms LOUDLY that we are "at war."

    Send your old shoes to the new George W. Bush library.

    by maxschell on Sun Jan 03, 2010 at 02:16:58 PM PST

  •  I think Republicans got the message... (2+ / 0-)
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    emsprater, mos1133

    That their attempt to play politics wasn't working and possibly even backfiring so they're walking back their criticisms.  

    I don't like John Brennan much at all, but he has gravitas, even Fox viewers would listen to what he says.  Brennen worked under Cheney, under Bush 41 and under Reagan.

    Politics is like playing Asteroids - You go far enough to the left and you end up on the right. Or vice-versa.

    by Jonze on Sun Jan 03, 2010 at 02:33:43 PM PST

  •  What Cheney Means Is (3+ / 0-)
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    maxschell, vets74, OleHippieChick

    Shock and Awe.  He means there isn't a big enough TV show.  He means the Obama isn't making the activities in Afghanistan, and Yemen enough of a commercial success.

    Because that's what that machievellian pile of human feces thinks is "success in the war on terror."

    Not how many criminals you capture and convict ... but how well you scare the fuck out of everyone and make a big show of nothing.

    The fact is, the Dick no more knows what we're really doing in any of those countries that you and I do.

  •  what the fuck does cheney know about war? (2+ / 0-)
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    maxschell, vets74

    mr. "i had other priorities" is at war with his heart & birds & his hair & the crab grass in his lawn, it's all one massive battle royale to him. really dick, go back to your undisclosed location & stop scaring the kids.

  •  I'm worried about whether the U.S. Navy... (0+ / 0-)

    thinks that we are at war.

    Homeland Security Affairs, The Journal of the Naval Postgraduate School Center for Homeland Defense and Security went all internet/google in January, 2009: published details of where and how to do a terrorist pentaerythritol tetranitrate (PETN) attack on an airliner and avoid detection.

    What more could al-Qaeda or any other terrorist group want ?

    How could any of this information on TSA vulnerability not have been Top Secret ?

    al-Qaeda followed these directions to a tee.

    A security official with T.S.A. identified the security holes, which were then exploited with the Flight 253 attack. What more could they do than to relate T.S.A. failure points for checking incoming flights for explosives:

    -- ...explosive trace residue detection technology, currently deployed in the United States, could help mitigate this threat, this essay urges that the United States require the application of such technology overseas on flights inbound to the United States. In the past, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has been reluctant to act in this direction...

    -- newer models of detectors devised by the TSA to counter that particular threat are being pilot tested in the United States but are not (as of this writing) being tested abroad. It would appear that the United States is reluctant to deploy effective technologies outside the country, even on a test basis.

    -- Why has the TSA decided not to provide passengers on U.S.-bound flights from foreign airports with the same explosives detection equipment required for securing domestic air travel? The answer is unclear.

    -- There are several such technologies, not only in existence but also widely deployed in the United States. These include computerized tomography scanning systems for checked baggage (which is not required of inbound flights from overseas) and for some cargo; use of canine olfactory capabilities; and various explosive trace residue and vapor detectors for passengers, carry-on baggage, checked baggage, and cargo. Other nations do use some of these techniques, but the United States does not require their use on incoming flights to provide equivalent levels of security to those that exist domestically.

    The Terrorist Threat to Inbound U.S. Passenger Flights: Inadequate Government Response

    I posted this security breach info here at DKOS Wed Dec 30, 2009 at 10:39:47 PM EST and forwarded internet and other comm to the Navy same day.

    Nothing has happened. This instruction manual for attacking America is still online.

    Great tool for pumping up the budget for explosives detection.

    Could someone from the White House please cross the 14th Street Bridge, get off at the Pentagon, and kick some Navy ass, big time ?

    And don't pretend that budget wars don't lead to betrayals. This kind of madness happens every Administration. FAA ignored Air France Flight 8969, the bloodiness of the Waco incident, over and over again. Wacked-out security personnel sabotage their own employers.

    Apparently the Navy is not aware that its wartime.

    Angry White Males + Personality Disorder delusionals + Pro-Life Christians


    The GOPer Base

    by vets74 on Sun Jan 03, 2010 at 04:05:20 PM PST

  •  Cheney, imho as an American Citizen (0+ / 0-)

    is a traitor. A fifth column leader of al-Qaeda, whose words give aid and comfort to them. He is no better than al-Alawki.

    "My case is alter'd, I must work for my living." Moll Cut-Purse, The Roaring Girl - 1612, England's First Actress

    by theRoaringGirl on Sun Jan 03, 2010 at 04:55:08 PM PST

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