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Non-G.I. Joe Lieberman, Dick Cheney’s fellow Vietnam-era draft dodger turned warmonger, said on the Dec. 27 edition of Fox News Sunday that "Yemen is now one of the centers of that fight." It’s difficult to tell from reading the transcript of the interview between Joe and Chris Wallace what exactly Joe means by "that fight." Does he mean the fight against al-Qaeda, or the fight the military-industrial-congressional complex is waging to ensure that we have a Long War of 50 years’ duration or more?

"If we don’t act preemptively," Joe warned, "Yemen will be tomorrow’s war. That’s the danger we face." Yet, as Joe acknowledged, we already have a "growing presence" in Yemen: "Special Operations, Green Berets, intelligence [i.e., CIA]." We have also carried out carrier-based and cruise missile air strikes on Yemen, so Joe obviously has something more robust in mind, like a Yemen surge.

The U.S. Army, including its head honcho, "King David" Petraeus, will be all in favor of that. What better excuse to make the Army an even bigger force than we’re already making it by entangling ourselves in another boots-on-the-ground quagmire we can never extract ourselves from?

"Conservative of the Year" Dick Cheney accused the Obama administration of "trying to pretend we’re not at war." I think it’s safe to say that the Obama administration is well aware that we’re at war – two wars, in fact, that the Cheney administration stumbled into, couldn’t win, and kept going long enough to dump into their Democratic successors’ laps.

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Originally posted to Jeff Huber on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 06:40 AM PST.

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Comment Preferences

  •  Well, the next quagmire (7+ / 0-)

    has to be somewhere. America hitched her wagon to endless war against an endless series of enemies du jour. Americans need decent jobs and and relief from exploitation by the rich, but those are trivial concerns when the next smoking gun could come in the form of a man's exploding underwear.

    When an old man dies, a library burns down. --African proverb

    by Wom Bat on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 07:19:23 AM PST

  •  Where are we going to get all the soldiers (8+ / 0-)

    for endless war?  Perpetual extended deployments is breaking our military.  And the resulting PTSD will break families for generations to come.  Is our new feudal economic system designed to create an underclass of serfs who can find no employment other than cannon fodder?

  •  It's Jobs, Jobs, Jobs... (4+ / 0-)

    The 30,000 troops surge in Afghanistan will require an additional 56,000 MERCS.

    Not sure how the Xe cowboys who have somehow become CIA agents are counted, but with Iraq wanting to arrest any who are still in Iraq, they need a place to roam far from home.

    "...fighting the wildfires of my life with squirt guns."

    by deMemedeMedia on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 07:32:53 AM PST

  •  If these were the Bush years, (4+ / 0-)

    I would think the last 10 days have been an upgrade to Orange Alert because the populartiy numbers didn't look so good.  I swear it feels to me like the country is being played with again in a black ops to raise fear and money to justify that endless war our leaders want.  I figure this is another manover in the grand chessgame of disaster capitalism. American leadership has no credibility with me anymore.

    2.5 trillion dollars have been "borrowed" since the [SS] system was "reformed" in the 80s and they simply don't want to pay it back. - dKos Blogger -

    by Silverbird on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 07:45:11 AM PST

  •  Joe 'Alcibides' Lieberman. (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    wu ming, rhutcheson

    Joe: Let's open up a new front in Syracuse. What could go wrong I ask?  

    the intelligence community is no longer geared towards telling the president what they think the president wants to hear

    by Salo on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 07:59:04 AM PST

  •  Tomorrow's war today! (1+ / 0-)
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    Why wait it's a bargain slashing happy holidays!

    the intelligence community is no longer geared towards telling the president what they think the president wants to hear

    by Salo on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 08:01:00 AM PST

  •  Gotta feed the MIC-the Pentagon-and the (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    dancewater, rhutcheson, Wom Bat

    Intelligence community!

    Add Blackwater to the mix-and are they aware it all smells the same?

    On political conservatives: "I was so shocked I nearly dropped the Bible I was using to help me masturbate into my gun." Bill Maher

    by lyvwyr101 on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 08:02:28 AM PST

  •  Quagmire indeed as many here predicted (5+ / 0-)

    See Juan Cole (Informed Comment) for 4 Jan 2010

    First, the US military launched a raid in Kunar Province two days after Christmas on a village a night, in which President Hamid Karzai alleged that 10 civilians, some 8 of them schoolchildren, had been killed (some say dragged out of their beds and executed). The NYT reported the head of a Kabul delegation to the village saying,“They gathered eight school students from two compounds and put them in one room and shot them with small arms." (The spokesman is a former governor of Kunar and now a close adviser to President Hamid Karzai-- i.e. not exactly a pro-Taliban source). The charitable theory is that in a nighttime raid, US troops got disoriented and hit the wrong group of young men.

    The outraged Afghan public saw this raid as an atrocity, and on Wednesday December 30, they mounted street protests against the US in Jalalabad, an eastern Pashtun city, and Kabul. In Jalalabad, hundreds of university students blocked the main roads, and then marched in the streets, chanting "Death to Obama" and "Death to America," and burning Obama in effigy. (If they go on like that, the anti-imperialist Pashtun college students of Jalalabad may attract the support of Fox Cable News . . .)

    And the CIA took a hit also.

    Then on Thursday, all hell broke loose when a high-level Pashtun asset who had been informing to the CIA on the location of important al-Qaeda and Taliban operatives detonated a vest bomb at FOB Chapman in Khost province, a CIA forward base. The attacker killed 7 field officers and one Jordanian intelligence operative detailed to the base. Those experience field officers were on the front lines in the fight against al-Qaeda and their loss is a big blow to counter-terrorism. It is true that they had been drawn in to a campaign of assassination, but it is the president who gave them that task--unwisely, in my view.

    The use of a double agent not only to misinform but actually to kill the most experienced counter-terrorism officers in the region showed the sophistication of tactical thinking in the Afghan insurgency.

    Asia Times has more details.

    US spies walked into al-Qaeda's trap
    By Syed Saleem Shahzad

    ISLAMABAD - The suicide attack on the United States Central Intelligence Agency's (CIA's) forward operating base of Chapman in the Afghan province of Khost last week was planned in the Pakistani tribal area of North Waziristan.

    The attacker - a handpicked plant in the Afghan National Army (ANA) - detonated his explosive vest in a gym at the base, killing seven agents, including the station chief, and wounding six. The base was officially for civilians involved in reconstruction.

    East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet ... Kipling

    by truong son traveler on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 08:18:09 AM PST

    •  more info on the suicide bomber at the CIA (3+ / 0-)

      in Afghanistan:

      The most likely Taliban group to have perpetrated the attack is the one led by Sirajuddin Haqqani, the son of Jalaluddin Haqqani, one of the CIA's most important assets when the agency was helping fund the Afghan mujahedeen fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan. The Haqqanis have been running militant operations for 30 years and have recently become perhaps the most lethal commanders targeting U.S. troops in Afghanistan. They are based in North Waziristan but control large parts of Khost and other provinces in eastern Afghanistan as well.

      The CIA created their own monster, it looks like.

      War cannot be waged to instill any virtue, including democracy or the liberation of women. - Chris Hedges

      by dancewater on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 08:39:11 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Why dont the US equip spies with GPS (0+ / 0-)

      Then you can monitor their postion in real time

  •  sort of gives the lie to the whole (6+ / 0-)

    afghanistan is the key piece to the fight against al-qaeda, dunnit.

    surf putah, your friendly neighborhood central valley samizdat

    by wu ming on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 08:25:31 AM PST

  •  Why aint the US using technoogy to defeat the (0+ / 0-)

    Taliban ,they have technology at your local sporting good store , such as gamecamera and cameras with gps technology these could be used too cut down on US  soldiers injuries   , The  US in the next few week will launch an offensive at  Marjeh ,the battle  will be brutal ,but it will be the defining battle for America in   Afghanistan ,

  •  This might become the fourth time in my life (0+ / 0-)

    when I've had to study up on a country that I previously couldn't place on a world map, trying to find out all the ins and outs of its economy, sociology and geopolitical significance, and concentrating on the endless reviews of how the U.S. went wrong when it invaded/intervened/corrupted/undermined/overthrew/abandoned/betrayed that country and, of course, why the U.S. can't simply pull out after it's ruined nearly everything there.

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