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To whom it may concern,

Please write your congressman, favorite news program or celebrity and ask them to do something special for Charlie Wilson.

I don't mean a simple memorial banner on the evening news either, although that would be nice as well. However, I would like to see someone dedicate a good hour on him, or maybe get Tom Hanks to spend an hour with Larry King and share some stories about what he learned of Charlie Wilson's life.

I cried after watching Tom Hanks portray him, and I deeply believe he deserves some type of Holiday, or perhaps some type of Bill named after him to help bring the current war in Afghanastan to a close.

He was a great man, and I do not want to see him forgotten.

Originally posted to Vision on Thu Feb 11, 2010 at 01:36 AM PST.


Should Charlie Wilson be memorialized with a statue??

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  •  Tip Jar (3+ / 0-)
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    JSCram3254, halef, notwisconsin

    Be Excellent. Even when no one is watching!

    by Vision on Thu Feb 11, 2010 at 01:36:05 AM PST

    •  Why do we want to honor him? (4+ / 0-)

      What I've read doesn't impress me. In fact it could be argued that he was instrumental in perpetuating the military industrial complex. I'm really asking because your diary is so thin and is not convincing compared to his complicity in nation building.

      •  yea... am I missing the snark here? (4+ / 0-)
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        Silverbird, LNK, tung sol, lizard people

        Because the Charlie Wilson I've heard about fought pretty damn hard to fund the mujahideen - the dudes we're now fighting in afghanistan.

        •  Crickets eom (2+ / 0-)
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          tung sol, 2020adam
        •  No, we're not fighting them in Afghanistan. (0+ / 0-)

          We're fighting the Taliban, a fully owned an operated subsidiary of the Pakistani ISI.

          •  Right, but I was under the impression... (0+ / 0-)

            that much of our funding directed at the mujahideen went through the ISI as well. I guess I understand that the Taliban was eventually distinct from the mujahideen, but my impression (and correct me if I'm wrong here) was that when we were throwing money into afghanistan in the 80s, we weren't exactly focusing on one group receiving it over another. in fact, didn't Bin Laden use some of those funds to recruit foreign extremists to fight on our side? I thought that was the whole thing about how the people we're fighting today used the Soviet war as training to later fight us.

            [confession, I used these two wikipedia articles just to make sure I wasn't completely making this up, which definitely happens sometimes, depending on how my memory is doing that day.]

    •  You want a holiday for the Mujahadeen too? (2+ / 0-)
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      northsylvania, tung sol

      Bin laden?

      •  We are not fighting the Mujahadeen.... (0+ / 0-)

        It's amazing how so many people here think the Soviets were the good guys.

        "Toy Mines" were wonderful things, right?

        •  we armed the mujahadeen (0+ / 0-)

          and no where did i say the "soviets were the good guys".

          my short comment was meant to critique constant US foreign intervention especially in the middle east, and the indirect consequences of such action. (see CIA assisted assasination of General Kassem using Saddam Hussein of Iraq, or us overthrowing Mossadegh in Iran and installing the Shah, and us arming the Mujahadeen, our adventures in Vietnam and South America etc)

          but i'll just add, to think that soviet intervention in afghanistan would have been successful w/o us arming the Mujahadeen is ludicrous. As you've heard, it's the "graveyard of empires".

  •  hahahahahahahahahaha... (1+ / 0-)
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    thanks for the morning chuckle. honor wilson, right, lets give him a medal of freedom, ala the bush regime.
    tung sol

    There is a fine line between genius and insanity. I have erased this line.--Oscar Levant

    by tung sol on Thu Feb 11, 2010 at 04:24:30 AM PST

  •  Maybe not a "Great Man" certainly "Serendipitous (2+ / 0-)
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    JSCram3254, notwisconsin

    Figure of History".

    The US through its own stupidity lost the peace in Afghanistan after the Russians left - and it's not as if nobody pointed it out (Charlie Wilson certainly did).  Compounding that stupidity, the US stood by as the Taliban and Al Qaeda gained strength in Pakistan and Afghanistan.  When Al Qaeda struck, the US had to spend a huge military effort to dislodge the Taliban.  Having learned nothing from successive invaders in Afghanistan, it then reverted to the most stupid policies possible.

    Charlie Wilson is one of the few non-Afghans who ever won in Afghanistan.  The others were also bastards, so I'm not going to advocate a pedestal, but historical acknowledgement is his due.

    γνωθι σεαυτόν

    by halef on Thu Feb 11, 2010 at 05:36:31 AM PST

    •  I am concerned with what went on before and (0+ / 0-)

      during the Afghan-Soviet conflict. I can't see this being someone working for the CIA and having positive values.

      •  This is joke, right? (0+ / 0-)

        I suppose the most charitable thing you can say about Charlie Wilson's values (and I only know him from the book) is that he was a patriot, loved having a good time and (damning with faint praise) meant well.  He never worked for the CIA.

        On several levels, the way the Afghan war against the Soviets was handled was too clever by half - allowing the ISI to control the flow of weapons, money and supplies built up crazies like Hekmatyar.  But the fact remains that, very likely, without Charlie Wilson, there would still be a Soviet Union, the Soviets would still be in Afghanistan, and quite possibly, the Soviets would have realised the two-century old Russian dream of having an open warm-water port - in Beluchistan.

        γνωθι σεαυτόν

        by halef on Thu Feb 11, 2010 at 01:28:57 PM PST

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  •  This is an example of (0+ / 0-)

    why learning history from Hollywood movies is not a good idea.

    2.5 trillion dollars have been "borrowed" since the [SS] system was "reformed" in the 80s and they simply don't want to pay it back. - dKos Blogger -

    by Silverbird on Thu Feb 11, 2010 at 06:53:31 AM PST

  •  "Charlie Wilson's War" a good read. (0+ / 0-)

    The book is still worth reading, even though the movie makers did a pretty good job of translating it to film.

    No one who reads the book is likely to ever have anything good to say about Charlie Wilson and his friends.

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