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Just to preface, I'm not a resident of Indiana.  In fact, I'm from PA and haven't been home in about two years, but I would like to throw out an idea to Hoosier Dems to get a decent senate candidate.

Very simply, call/write/e-mail the Indiana Democratic Party and demand that they hold a caucus to decide the nominee for the fall's general election.

Here are some arguments you can make:

(1) Bayh's retirement has denied Indiana Democrats the right to decide their nominee for the general election.  Is that fair? No.  Is it small D democratic?  Hell no!

(2) By having a caucus you can field test a candidate's ability to create and organize grassroots support.  Obama did this in the primary and again in the general in Indiana.

(3) The base can get organized and energized for the fall against weak or very unpopular Republican candidates.

(4) This is just for progressives more but: an active progressive base in a caucus can get a real Democrat instead of another Blue Dog/Corporate type like Bayh.  

Feel free to go with any of these ideas and best of luck!

Originally posted to Strath3303 on Wed Feb 17, 2010 at 01:40 AM PST.


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    •  I Don't Disagree w/ Your Idea (1+ / 0-)
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      rock the ground

      but I can already hear the response, it costs too much money.

      However, I would think legally speaking there would be some way the person that caused all of this, you know this guy named Bayh, could direct some of his $13M he has in the bank towards covering the cost associated with a caucus.

      But alas, this is what the Indiana Democratic Party and Bayh wanted, so I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

      "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

      by webranding on Wed Feb 17, 2010 at 01:47:48 AM PST

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  •  Mellencamp! (0+ / 0-)

    One line HCR: Allow Medicare Buy-In for all. Pass it via the reconciliation process.

    by NeuvoLiberal on Wed Feb 17, 2010 at 04:07:39 AM PST

  •  Slating Convention (1+ / 0-)
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    Indiana actually still does slating--party delegates picking candidates to run--rather than having primaries. Isn't that nuts?

    And if you weren't a slated candidate, you're black balled.

    "The most important environmental issue is one that is rarely mentioned, and that is the lack of a conservation ethic in our culture".-Gaylord Nelson

    by WorkingClassHero on Wed Feb 17, 2010 at 04:13:45 AM PST

    •  And even more pernicious, behind the scenes (0+ / 0-)

      slating and lots of behind-the-back whisper campaigns that hurts anyone who tries to buck the rigged system.

      I don't happen to think Indiana is alone, though. You'd be surprised how many Democratic state and local parties don't really care about democracy. They exist to fix elections without the electorate even knowing.

      It just looks like a primary.

    •  the slated candidate does not always win (0+ / 0-)

      the party picks a preference with slating but we still have primaries (usually).

      this is a bummer that we get no say so in this senate race.  But I was not for EB for years and it was all I could get.

      Anyone they pick will be better than EB.  from what I can tell, he was just an obstructionist.  NOT a hard worker.  Whenever I wrote to him, i got a form letter in return that said all of his usual BS and never addressed what it was that I wrote about.

      When I wrote to Senator Lugar, the reply was personal and addressed the question that was posed.  (I never agreed with either one of them).  The difference in their response was huge.  Bayh is arrogant.  Good bye, good riddance.

      •  The primaries are rigged too in Indiana. I know (0+ / 0-)

        from experience. BTW, there are worse Dems than Bayh, believe it or not. Pay attention to the details.

        I have ZERO faith the state party elites will pick anyone good. They are afraid of primaries and will torpedo ANYONE who tries to challenge their pick.

        Evidence of this is the shameful treatment of the Dem candidate for Gov last time. Basically, the Dem party gave the election to Mitch Daniels because their guy lost the primary. That's how bad it is.

  •  Ha, I am in Indiana and do you really think (0+ / 0-)

    the Democratic party here listens to Democrats?

    They don't care; they are a few exclusive elites who set up a crony system (headed by Sen. Bayh, BTW) to fix elections, avoid primaries and choose candidates.

    Newsflash: Indiana is NOT alone in this. Many Dem state parties act this way.

    •  it is our own fault (0+ / 0-)

      I used to go to democracy for america meetings.  they encouraged us to get ELECTED as precinct committee etc.  This is not hard to do as we usually have a shortages.

      Now all of a sudden 32 people in the party get to pick our nominee.  ANY of them is better than Bayh.  Some of them will surely at least go to work.

      We kossaks need to be infiltrating the party by getting involved.  We sit back and rant.  we need to be in positions to have a say.

      •  Well, not entirely...many precinct chairs are (0+ / 0-)

        selected as well. By the county chairs who are selected by the state dem party who is selected by Sen. Bayh.

        See how it works. Sure, it is POSSIBLE you could run and win a precinct chair but you would do nothing and go nowhere if you don't toe the line.

        There is a mentality that this is a fine way to run a party. Control is paramount. But it excludes most people and fills the ranks up with go-along party types who have no desire to do anything but kowtow to the elites.

  •  Just a wild thought (0+ / 0-)

    Since there isn't a primary couldn't Bayh decide to run again saying he had a change of heart and wanted to fix the problems from inside.
    The republicans will probably have a weak opponent and he could step back in. He has been getting a lot of criticism fot being a quitter.
    Call me crazy but maybe he planned this to see how weak his opposition would be and to see what the political landscape  looked like later in the year.

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