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The media is awash with the buzz, the lines are snaking all over the world with famished "wanters" and "needers" and like an oracle's tablet the iPad is delivered as if coming down from Mt. Olympus.  

Is iPad here to save us?  Enlighten us?  Amuse us?

Or, is it taking us one big step closer to the event horizon of environmental doom?  

In dog years I'd be dead.  I'm old enough to remember the terrifying feeling of watching my neatly organized Fortran cards fall off the edge of a table like a deck in Fifty Two Pick-up.

I'm still pretty tech-savvy.  I can build, use, program, and break today's newest consumer technology.

So I'm thinking "should I buy Apple's new candy?"

Fuck no. And we have two iPhones, old iPod, and 6,000 legally digitized iTune songs.

It's bad enough Target and Walmart are dead set on getting us to buy more useless plastic garbage, made in China, which is going to find it's way to the Pacific Gyre 2.9 weeks after dumb consumers make their fateful purchase.  I hate to be a classicist, but the folk trolling Walmart and Target, filling their baskets with useless Chinese plastic bobbles, are clueless.  You can't really get mad at the "clueless."

It is really bad enough one of the most liberal presidents ever just began his new mantra:  Drill Baby Drill.

Yet, people gobbling up the iPad, and the pathetic who making them/trying to force feed them to us, are far from clueless.  They are fully aware that anyone with a laptop made in the last 4 years already has a machine which does what the iPad does.  As Pogue says so well:

The bottom line is that you can get a laptop for much less money — with a full keyboard, DVD drive, U.S.B. jacks, camera-card slot, camera, the works. Besides: If you’ve already got a laptop and a smartphone, who’s going to carry around a third machine?

So who cares if it doesn't multi-task, shoot video or is really good for creating anything.  Instead as David Pogue points out in the above link, it isn't good for creating stuff, just for consuming stuff.  How nice, let us consume more crap which allows us to consume even more crap.  

Don't worry, Apple has a second wave coming.  As always they have really made this a partial iPad.  In 6 months they will release their second wave with video, multi-tasking, photo, etc.  Don't worry my fellow consumer, Apple, like always has V.2 on the shelf and ready to go.  Like always, Apple is staggering the releases since they just want to keep the waves coming and a good reason for us to throw V.1 out and buy V.2.  

Politics don't matter, abortion rights means little, Dem, Rep, or Teabagger is a useless thought, unemployment is a yawn and all the diaries yelling about HCR will be of no concern when the world becomes so fucking clogged with our shit/pollution/plastic/etc. that we start to die off.  

If you look billions of light years in each direction you will find nothing more beautiful, hospitable, and unique as Earth.  And here we chatter about Dem, Rep, or Teabagger as we knowingly destroy this gem.  

Everything, for the people who are not clueless, should focus on the environment.

So we can argue about the minutia or we can do the only thing which matters - Stop destroying the environment which sustains us.  A nice first step would be to stop buying the useless the crap which comes from the environmentalist center of the world, China, and is made by women who sound like they are slaves.

Shame on the Apple's of the world and shame on the consumers.

Oh, Happy Easter

Originally posted to Uncle on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 06:44 AM PDT.

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  •  Can I purchase 3G (3+ / 0-)

    for a laptop on a month-to-month basis?  I could for an IPad.  

    I don't plan to buy one, but a lot of people don't need the additional features of a computer (or the added weight) yet they might like a bigger screen than is on an IPhone or an IPod touch.  

    Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity. Horace Mann (and btw, the bike in kayakbiker is a bicycle)

    by Kayakbiker on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 06:51:23 AM PDT

    •  Try making a call with the iPad (2+ / 0-)
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      Good point but we can be expected to travel around with a laptop, iPhone, and iPad.  The thing is huge for lugging around to and from work.  It is smaller than most nice laptop screens if you need to read or watch a DVD in bed.  This push that it will save trees is crap.  Print media has been in a free fall for years.  

      •  Skype for calls. (3+ / 0-)
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        Your diary omits a few things.  

        The iPad is a lot more green than a laptop.  Check the specs.
        Each purchased song or book is less plastic or paper.
        My folks have trouble using a computer but would not have a problem with an iPad.  

        Best Wishes, Demena Left/Right: -8.38; Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.36

        by Demena on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 07:16:36 AM PDT

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        •  Yes it is greener (1+ / 0-)
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          Greener than what?  I saw their green boastings.  What a laugh.  It equates to we are just big polluters not big huge polluters.  But they make up the difference in scale.

          •  Ok. (0+ / 0-)

            So which is it, do you want to ban all computers or would you just prefer a huge polluter to a big polluter?

            So your difference in scale argument is a failure.  You apparently just want to restrict access to technology for others.

            If you have the courage of your convictions you will take your computers and just about anything with an integrated circuit to the recyclers now and not replace them.

            Best Wishes, Demena Left/Right: -8.38; Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.36

            by Demena on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 04:26:07 PM PDT

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        •  You don't need an iPad to Skype (1+ / 0-)
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          99% of the people buying iPads most likely have two to three versions of the iPhone.  If they need to VOiP the can.

          •  Unfounded allegation and irrational assumption. (0+ / 0-)

            Why would people have multiple phones?  I think I have had three in nearly twenty years.  The first two I replaced when the batteries wore out.  Yes, I could have replaced the batteries but the phones were long out of date.  The third I replaced with an iPhone which I use to manage my diabetes.  

            Apparently you think I should have a phone and a pda that is not a phone to manage my diabetes.

            You are failing to see how things converge to one multi purpose device.

            The only critique I will make o the iPad is that everyone else is right, it needs multi-tasking (which the OS has), camera and is not an open enough platform.

            Best Wishes, Demena Left/Right: -8.38; Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.36

            by Demena on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 04:33:21 PM PDT

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        •  How Green is your iPad? (0+ / 0-)

          See this

        •  nt- EXACTLY. (0+ / 0-)

          Tuesday March 23, 2010 - Health Care Reform - CONGRATULATIONS to all of us... and U.S.!!! [Mt. Rushmore awaits you Mr. President.]

          by VT ConQuest on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 08:24:15 AM PDT

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        •  Trouble using a computer but not with an iPad? (0+ / 0-)

          That seems like bullshit to me. Who the hell has trouble using a computer but when faced with an iPad would not have a problem? Your statement makes no sense.

          ...Fuck the High Priests...

          by Tirge Caps on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 08:53:49 AM PDT

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          •  Try seniors who might be confused by (1+ / 0-)
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            all the tech jargon, especially in a Windows system with "Cannot find file.dll" or other error messages. I had to bail my father-in-law out several times before he decided to stop bugging me and put a real tech guru on his speed dial, and he was an electrical engineering major in college.

            The risk we take in opening our hearts to love, is learning to say goodbye.

            by Cali Scribe on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 10:34:14 AM PDT

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            •  my 80 year old mother (0+ / 0-)

              can teach people to use a PC and wouldn't know how to use an Apple.  this "easier" thing went out the door after Windows 3.1 died.  System 7, which you can load on an older machine is easy.  

              it is what you get use to.  "it is easier" is Apple's tag line.  even if it is easier should we all go dump a couple more billion tons of garbage into the environment for an easier computing experience?  

              •  There's really no difference (0+ / 0-)

                between a "PC" (meaning Windows) and an Apple computer, other than in some of the keystrokes (substitute the Command key for the Control key in a lot of the keyboard shortcuts, mainly), when you're talking about basic functions. The problem is when you get under the hood -- I just find Macs a lot easier to use and maintain when it comes to software, and with the UNIX backbone there's even plenty of tinkering that the real techheads can do in Terminal mode. (I've been tempted to take a basic UNIX course just to see if I can pick up any tips.)

                I just don't get the Apple and iPad hate -- as I've said in other comments, anything that makes information more accessible to the public is all to the good, and maybe we should be looking at how we as progressives can take advantage of this new format. Imagine an iPad app where you put in your ZIP code and not only will it give you your Senators and House rep, but enable you to email them directly from the app? Would make it a lot easier to lobby them on important legislation. There's a lot of potential out there that we're going to miss if we spend all our time bitching about it.

                The risk we take in opening our hearts to love, is learning to say goodbye.

                by Cali Scribe on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 10:53:12 AM PDT

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                •  I have a Mac - would never use a Windows based (0+ / 0-)

                  system again in my life even if my life depended on it - I don't want to go out mad -  but I just don't see the sense in the initial statement.

                  I would like an eReader at some point, but am thinking of the Kindle because of the liquid ink feature.

                  Anyway, I am not a hater, I am just a jerk.

                  ...Fuck the High Priests...

                  by Tirge Caps on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 11:20:23 AM PDT

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                  •  I'm a Mac user as well (0+ / 0-)

                    but I have to use a PC as I try to get vital information off of my late father-in-law's computer that my mother-in-law will need (email addresses and the like). And likely she'll want a Windows computer because of the cost factor. I'm not going to fight the weather -- I'll just go for what I like in my own house.

                    The risk we take in opening our hearts to love, is learning to say goodbye.

                    by Cali Scribe on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 01:02:23 PM PDT

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              •  AGAIN (0+ / 0-)

                You consider only your case.   My parents struggle with either.  Things like the iPhone and the iPad are far similar to use than a full blown computer or netbook.

                The whole world is not clones of you and yours and I bet you couldn't even get then 'yous' to agree with you.

                Best Wishes, Demena Left/Right: -8.38; Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.36

                by Demena on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 04:39:20 PM PDT

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          •  People in their 80s. (0+ / 0-)

            People who were adult before there were televisions.

            My parents.

            My statement is a statement of fact not one of reason or speculation.  Therefore it cannot fail to make sense.

            Best Wishes, Demena Left/Right: -8.38; Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.36

            by Demena on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 04:35:33 PM PDT

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        •  Try reading a laptop on a crowded commuter train (2+ / 0-)
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          The iPad might encourage more people to get out of their cars and use transit just so they have more opportunity to use it.

          And it makes information more accessible to the disabled, from those who don't have the manual dexterity to maneuver around the iPhone's postage stamp sized screen, to those with vision impairments who can actually enlarge text to the size they need (and the iPad even includes text-to-voice technology for those who can't see at all). Imagine being able to read books without having to wait for a large print edition of said book to be published, or hope that there'll be an audiobook that won't be an abridged version. (My late father-in-law looked with envy on all the information I was able to access from my iPhone; he would have loved the iPad).

          Add to that the number of trees that may be saved, especially in the textbook industry where books are obsolete almost the minute they arrive at the college bookstore.

          Look, if you don't like it don't buy it -- but let's not get on a high horse about those who find value in it.

          The risk we take in opening our hearts to love, is learning to say goodbye.

          by Cali Scribe on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 10:32:20 AM PDT

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          •  your buying it screw me (1+ / 0-)
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            if you don't like it don't buy it

            that is the exact issue - me buying it, you buying it, or someone else buying it screws everyone.  this toy is not made to benefit the few people in need of easy to use technology b/c they are handicapped.  it is made to get the masses to buy with a little help for a handicapped.  this was not made to help people do much more than consume more crap.  meanwhile we all get screwed by the horrific effects of this needless consumption.  

            iPads don't necessarily save trees.  

            your philosophy of "do what you want and just leave us out of it" is exactly what the Teabaggers would say of HCR.  It is the idea of screw the world it is all for me.  My consumption effects my neighbor's world.  

            •  What a lot of horse feathers. (1+ / 0-)
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              Are you even capable of rational thought?  All your considerations are for a worst case scenario for each and every purchaser.

              I won't buy one unless I need one and I don't quite yet.  

              Would you refer that someone buy something less green?  Would you prefer that people buy a laptop or netbook that will last them a shorter time and contain more toxins?

              Your philosophy of "don't do it unless I want it and I approve" is worse than the fascists.  You can keep your dictatorial ideas off my turf.  I'm all for regulation but no random stranger has the right to insist that the world conform to their irrational wishes.

              Best Wishes, Demena Left/Right: -8.38; Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.36

              by Demena on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 04:22:58 PM PDT

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      •  That's like saying "try water surfing on sand". - (1+ / 0-)
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        The iPad is here to knock out that lame, but ridiculously successful NETBOOK market. It also fills the gap that the massively failed Tablet PC market, and more recently, the just plain embarrassing UMPC markets couldn't.

        How/Why? The iPad removes the BARRIER of the antiquated notebook design for "lower-end", yet increasingly necessary BASIC uses [internet connectivity, MS Office type stuff, etc.]. The single hand, open face nature of the iPad will become second nature to users and having your iPad on hand will become as common as carrying your keys, or wallet/purse.

        The iPad [when used in a clipboard manner] gets rid of the "barrier" of the antiquated notebook design . This changes the SOCIAL aspect of how people will use/access/share/display/etc. their online information and basic local content. It will also change how they do all of that around other people in different scenarios.

        Apple is looking to [among other things] change the entire online experience as well, particularly the "shopping" aspect.

        Just like Apple showed the world that a digital music player could be so much more as they did with the iPod, and that a phone could do so much more [with  less - eg. multi-touch input instead of physical buttons and keys] with the iPhone, the iPad is going to "open up" the way people CONSUME content.

        Tuesday March 23, 2010 - Health Care Reform - CONGRATULATIONS to all of us... and U.S.!!! [Mt. Rushmore awaits you Mr. President.]

        by VT ConQuest on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 08:23:52 AM PDT

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        •  Given the typical Apple cost.... (0+ / 0-)

          ...what barrier does it actually remove?

          Netbooks are cheap, light, rugged and powerful enough for what people want to do with them.  The iPad doesn't fill that niche, nor does it address the actual reasons tablets have always failed miserably.  (Specifically that they're useless outside of a few very specific areas.)

          •  Apple doesn't do cheap, Apple does better. iPod- (0+ / 0-)

            wasn't the first mp3 player and cost WAY more than any of it's competition back in 2001. Every buddy that doesn't get Apple proclaimed it a failure upon release because it was "just another over-priced Apple niche product that's doomed to fail".


            The iPod EXPERIENCE is superior, and the 250+ million iPods in use worldwide proves it.

            Same for the iPhone. Steve Ballmer and all other microsoft apologists proclaiming "Who's going to buy a $500+ phone when there are hundreds of other cheap choices from many other manufacturers with many more features and who have been in the phone market for more than a decade?".


            The iPhone EXPERIENCE is better, and it only took that ONE PHONE less than 6 months to command nearly 30% of the entire smartphone market.

            The best part about all of this? These Apple products are "Trojan Horses" into the windows users' households who end up switching to Macs once they realize that the problem[s] with windows computers isn't who the manufacturer is [HP, Toshiba, Sony, etc.], "it's the OS, stupid".

            People get that now. Apple will never win the initial cost/cheap argument because Apple doesn't care about doing cheap. Apple only cares about doing better. Apple ALWAYS wins the BETTER INVESTMENT argument though, and the huge amount of former windows and former non Apple product users proves that the people are starting to "get it".

            Fiction, right? Wrong.

            Who's going to argue that the economy was/is in horrible condition? Yet here's Apple's news just a couple of months ago regarding 2009's sales:

            "Apple Reports First Quarter Results: All-Time Highest Revenue and Profit"

            The public is starting to understand that "bigger isn't better [eg. "90% of the world uses windows" LOL!!!], BETTER IS BETTER".

            Consumer Reports March 10th, 2010: "Apple tops Consumer Reports' tech support survey" and "New Ratings: Best & worst computer tech support" - "Of the six major manufacturers, one earned top marks across the board, and left the others in its wake in terms of overall satisfaction." Guess who?

            How's that iPad doing so far though? [it went on pre-order back on March 12th]:

            - Apple sells 50,000 iPads in two hours [March 12, 2010 12:58 PM]
            2:28 p.m. "We're now at about 74k in 4 1/2 hours."
            4:21 p.m. "We're at about 91k in six hours."

            ON. THE. FIRST. DAY. PRE-ORDER ONLY!!!

            So how did the iPad fair on it's first day of physical launch yesterday?

            - Bloomberg: "Apple IPad’s Debut-Weekend Sales May Be Surpassing Estimates" [600,000 - 700,000 sold, up from initial 200,000 to 300,000 predictions].


            See a pattern yet?

            "Apple doesn't do cheap, Apple does better." - Me

            Tuesday March 23, 2010 - Health Care Reform - CONGRATULATIONS to all of us... and U.S.!!! [Mt. Rushmore awaits you Mr. President.]

            by VT ConQuest on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 09:10:04 PM PDT

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            •  nt- LOL @ "Every buddy". I meant everybody. (0+ / 0-)

              Tuesday March 23, 2010 - Health Care Reform - CONGRATULATIONS to all of us... and U.S.!!! [Mt. Rushmore awaits you Mr. President.]

              by VT ConQuest on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 10:50:08 PM PDT

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            •  Apple doesn't do better..... (0+ / 0-)

              ...Apple does pretty and pretentious.  -  Me.

              Apple is the epitome of style over substance.  The iPhone is actually nothing special.  What they do is wrap the whole thing in a package that's perfect for smug urban hipsters.  That really is all.  Meanwhile I'm quite happy with my Android.... and I have a real keyboard.  I'm still chugging away on my PC, repeatedly upgraded and refined.  Can't do that with a Mac.  

              Apple makes products that are fashion accessories, and they charge accordingly.  Their products are generally inferior from a hardware perspective, although they do make a pretty interface, I'll give them that.  Most of their success can be attributed to the aformentioned smug urban hipsters with more money than common sense, and in a few cases their dogged unwillingness to be compatible with anything outside of their own community.  (They're even worse than Microsoft is on that score.... and usually it falls flat and they end up having to eventually open up their standard to communicate with the other 95% of the computing world.)

              •  I'm not responsible for other people's lack of (0+ / 0-)

                foresight, much less their ignorance." - me [circa 2002 when I left Xerox as a windows network administrator to work for Apple].

                I've had this Mac vs. windows argument literally thousands of times for the better part of the past decade. Ranging from "Susie home-makers" to CEO's, CFO's, CIO's of major corporations.

                You're tired and tirelessly debunked [for years now] "Apple only sells niche, incompatible, over-priced, pretentious products that only [insert rich kid/people euphemism here] will buy" falls FLAT on it's face in the wake of Apple having it's most profitable quarter in it's 30+ year history just during the last calendar quarter of 2009... during a recession no less!

                The public has started to come to terms with the truth: Apple's products are better investments for the MAJORITY of the computer using public who MOSTLY don't EVER want to see the inside of a computer if they don't have to. Of course there are WAY more options [hardware-wise ONLY now, since every Mac is now a windows computer too IF the owner wants it to be] for windows based hardware. THAT has never been my argument. My argument has always been that the amount of DIY'ers [Do-It-Yourselfers] and people who actually WANT to tinker with/upgrade computers themselves PALES in comparison to the amount of people who "just want a computer that works reliably for an extended peiod of time"... enter Macintosh based computers on white horses for all of the them. the MAJORITY.

                Ever since Apple introduced Unix based Mac OS X in 2001, the pro-Mac/anti-windows argument has just kept getting easier. The nail in the coffin was Apple's switch to Intel processors, making every Mac a windows computer IF... and that's a big IF... they find that they need windows.

                THE biggest reason that windows users are switching to Macs in DROVES [no hyperbole - I've watched this wave go from a slow trickle in '02 to a downright tsunami since '07], is because the secret is out: The problem with windows computers ISN'T who the hardware manufacturer is [HP, Toshiba, Sony, Dell ... LOL!!! @ Dell 's downfall, btw], IT'S THE OS, STUPID!".

                Now that people have and continue to figure that out, they [80%-90% of computer users] find that THEY DON'T NEED MICROSOFT WINDOWS AT ALL, THEY JUST NEED [at most, most times] MICROSOFT OFFICE.

                Oh noes! The cat is out of the bag!!!

                If the OS [windows] sucks in EVERY way and there is a MUCH more stable, reliable, and secure OS alternative [Mac] that can run the ONE program that the vast majority of users NEED [MS Office], then dump that POS OS.

                THAT is exactly what is happening.

                Reference Apple's unparalleled product base growth [iPod, iPhone, Macs] WORLDWIDE in the past only 4 years, combined with their stock value and, well, here's the writing on the wall:

                What Happens When Apple Passes Microsoft In Value? Yes, When. by MG Siegler on Mar 26, 2010

                "Apple looks poised to get within $50 billion of Microsoft market cap any day now. Currently, Apple’s market cap is $208.76 billion, while Microsoft’s is $261.01 billion. And while $50 billion may seem like a huge chasm, consider that since December 31, 2009, just a few months ago, Apple has added about $20 billion to its market cap, while Microsoft has lost about $10 billion. Again, the gap is closing, quickly."

                Gotta LOVE those PRE-iPAD release numbers!!! [let's see, approx. 600,000 - 700,000 iPads sold - on the first day - @ minimally $499 each for the low-end model = f*ck it... who cares!]

                Onward Apple!!!

                Up until the beginning of this year, Apple surpassing microsoft's market cap was still viewed as only an Apple/Mac user's delusional pipe-dream that might happen "one day":

                Why Apple Is More Valuable Than Google A look at what's behind the Mac and iPhone maker's now firm market-cap edge on the Web-search leader, and how it could one day challenge Microsoft

                "Now that Apple (AAPL) has once again passed Google (GOOG) in market value, can the consumer-electronics maker maintain its lead?"

                Since 2007, Apple's worth as a public company has surpassed HP, IBM, Intel and even at times [as discussed in the article linked above], Google.

                "BIGGER [market share] isn't always better, but BETTER [installed base] is always BETTER." - me

                You're gonna have to come with much more than outdated, propogandist microsoft apologist/strawman arguments to try and out debate me in the Mac vs. windows debate. I've handed many an a$$ back to literally thousands of others who have brought that weak sauce to me for nearly a decade.

                [Oops! I've said too much... element of surprise, Art of War, corporate subterfuge and all... ummm]

                Move along, NOTHING to see here.

                Tuesday March 23, 2010 - Health Care Reform - CONGRATULATIONS to all of us... and U.S.!!! [Mt. Rushmore awaits you Mr. President.]

                by VT ConQuest on Mon Apr 05, 2010 at 04:22:54 AM PDT

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            •  rest of the world (0+ / 0-)

              For the U.S. consumer the iPhone must seem like the "new coming."  Go to Europe, Japan, etc. and it is an old piece of equipment.  Actually, when it was releasesed the world was versions ahead. So no, Apple didn't really push any envelope or come up with any device which wasn't already being used in Japan, etc.  

    •  Month to month I don't know.... (0+ / 0-)

      ....but you can get a 3G card for just about anything these days.

  •  If the environment should be our chief focus, (0+ / 0-)

    I should think party difference matter a great deal.

    And what's an iPad?

  •  I'm forgetting (0+ / 0-)

    which party is pushing harder for offshore drilling?  What have the dems really done for the environment?  If we could fix one thing tomorrow morning what should it be?  Why is environment always last?  At least we will have HCR as we fall like flies.

  •  One of my friends works for Apple and is (2+ / 0-)
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    fairly high up their food chain.  Last night as we were coming home from skiing he looked at his iPhone and said, 381,000...we shipped 400,000 for distribution today.

    Never underestimate the power of a gullible consumer market.  And yes, the iPad is just a Kindle with color...and a bigger screen for playing games...but that's my opinion.  Some people swear by this shit.  Oh, and if you'll recall the criticism people had about it before its release (no external keyboard option, shit like that), well, surprise, surprise, surprise! All those accessories were also available for purchase yesterday.  I asked if it would work with the existing blue-tooth apple keyboard...yes, but there's a new one that looks designed to go with the iPad.

    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

    by darthstar on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 07:06:00 AM PDT

  •  My partner is with you in soul and spirit (0+ / 0-)

    and I'm kind of tagging behind.

    She's just been reading a book 'Enough' (I think) or something of that title, and a previous one that told the story of cotton - how mill owners from the UK in the industrial revolution, to slave owners in the deep south of the US to the current chinese owners of ghost factories  (the grim ones where nobody ever gets a look round) all want young women as their workforce because they're 'docile'

    so everything we wear, consume, throw away... is made by 'docile' young women somewhere.

    which should be enough to make us all start growing our own hemp or whatever it takes to make our own clothes, just like we're growing our own food.

    'The behavior of any bureaucratic organisation can best be understood by assuming that it is controlled by a cabal of its enemies.' Robert Conquest

    by Airmid on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 07:10:30 AM PDT

  •  I'm taking a pass (1+ / 0-)
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    It's important to remember that much of the print media that is so fawning of this product is also counting on it for their futures. With it, you'll be able to buy subscriptions to all of your favorite mags and rags. Beyond that? Not much that I can see.

    Add a keyboard, a hard drive, optical drive, ports for peripherals, and you would have a portable computer. These already exist for the same price or less. The iPad is a pricey little bauble that will merely allow you to buy more stuff. For $100, I'd consider buying into this commercial delivery scheme. At the asking price, I have to wonder what planet they are from. Then I remember it's Apple, which generally equates to market value x 4.

    •  Don't piss of Markos (0+ / 0-)

      He got his yesterday.

      I'm a thinking person. I don't listen to Glenn or Rush.

      by tpabob on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 07:12:36 AM PDT

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      •  LOL (0+ / 0-)

        The reason none of this gets any traction, even here, is b/c we can yell and rant about all the other crap and think we did something.  In this instance, we would have to do something.  But it is easier to post, read, and rec. about someone's group hug concerning their dying cat so we pass over such issus.  We are bigger sinners than the right.  We know better and yet, we do so little.

    •  Great point. (0+ / 0-)

      It's important to remember that much of the print media that is so fawning of this product is also counting on it for their futures.

      ...Fuck the High Priests...

      by Tirge Caps on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 08:56:41 AM PDT

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  •  Not Buying One (3+ / 0-)

    As with any vertical scheme I will not get involved. Apple is quite good at forcing a money stream into their coffers. I do not participate though.
    I do want a tablet, and hopefully this IPad thing will jump start the other companies into restarting their tablet innovations.

  •  I have no interest in all this crap (1+ / 0-)
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    Who needs it?

    •  it is a little odd (3+ / 0-)
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      every day as I travel to and fro I see people walking while looking at little screens.  In coffee shops, my favorite place, people are glued to screens as if they are solving the energy crisis.  Sneak behind them and they are on Facebook.  We are here on this earth, on this gem, for a nanosecond.  The people, sky, air, etc. are all, to a degree, amazing.  Yet, we are never "here."  We are always in the digital "there."  Go spend sometime with someone who knows they are dying - a good lesson in all the time we waste "there" and not "here."  

      •  and with that (3+ / 0-)

        Let me get off this machine and go outside!

      •  How do you know that person (0+ / 0-)

        they're with on Facebook isn't also dying, thousands of miles away, and the only way friends can be "with" them is virtually? I spend a lot of my spare time on Twitter, and much of it lately has been helping a couple of high schoolers I know get through the agony of waiting for college acceptance letters (we're fans of the same baseball team -- how else would a 50-ish housewife with a big mouth find common ground with teenagers?).

        I try not to judge how anyone uses technology, as long as they're not breaking any laws; if they want to spend their time downloading nude adult pics (of either gender), that's their choice. And if something like the iPad is going to make it easier for people to access information, so much the better -- maybe instead of bitching about it, we can start thinking about ways to use this technology to educate the voters.

        The risk we take in opening our hearts to love, is learning to say goodbye.

        by Cali Scribe on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 10:41:35 AM PDT

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  •  What I'd like to see (0+ / 0-)

    is more of a compartmental design.  You could have the CPU have its own bus and have separate memory and storage device units that could be universally attached and therefore upgradeable.  Then you could have the input devices like the keyboard and the mouse be separate units so you could have larger keys that are easier to type with.  Then you could make the monitor a separate part so that it, along with the keyboard and mouse, would be the only things on top of your desk.

    Of course you could no longer walk your life twittering and googling and social networking, but maybe you could arrange to get together with friends in meatspace and, I don't know, communicate without emoticons or something.  What do people without wireless do anyway?

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    by CalbraithRodgers on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 07:52:11 AM PDT

  •  Posting from my iPad. (2+ / 0-)
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    Cali Scribe, irishwitch

    You're taking this far too seriously.  I didn't buy this for serious content creation, I will freely admit.  That said, I bought it because it allows me to comfortably compute on the go in ways neither my smartphone nor my laptop do.  I've got the bigger screen without the boot time.  I've got phenomenal battery life and an incredibly light and thin form factor.

    I'm not a zombie buying shit for no reason.  This suits my lifestyle rather well.  I've wanted an ebook reader for awhile, but wanted a compelling web browser without the heft or boot times.  It's my money and I ain't feeling guilty about it.

  •  I still feel fairly hip.... (3+ / 0-)

    my cellphone has a retractable antenna, and I have 6-volt motorcycles.   SSK!

  •  Thanks for the rant nt (0+ / 0-)

    by a2nite on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 08:48:58 AM PDT

  •  I plan to get one (2+ / 0-)
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    Cali Scribe, Gary Norton

    When I'm at home I'll use my laptop, but when I'm on the road, it'll be great.

  •  Who else remembers Newton? (0+ / 0-)

    And how quickly those who bought them returned them?

    They keep on trying.

    Some people make you want to change species

    by ulookarmless on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 08:56:24 AM PDT

  •  Not true about laptops. (1+ / 0-)
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    They do not do everything the iPad does.  They do everything better and they do a lot more things the iPad cannot do.  All for the same or less money.

  •  Yeah, I still don't get cell phones. :-) (1+ / 0-)
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  •  "billions of light years" is surely exaggerated (0+ / 0-)

    The whole galaxy is nowhere near that large:

    The galaxy is roughly 90,000 light-years across, and the Sun is located about two-thirds of the way out from the center in one of the arms (ours is known as the Orion Arm).

  •  You guys: take a break from shouting... (0+ / 0-)

    ..."Get off my lawn" at the neighbor kids and enjoy the fantastic tech.

    I'd love an iPad just to use as a reader for my software's pdf manuals.  Tablet computers cost just as much, if not more.

  •  Went through the mall yesterday (1+ / 0-)
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    to pick up some easter stuff.

    They had the iPadders tucked into the un-rented store spaces. No big line snaking through the mall. Just pockets of detainees, here and there, waiting for permission from the mall police to move to the next waiting cell. Until finally they get to be one of the 30 or so folks allowed to wait in line by the Apple Store.

    They looked pretty pathetic standing, under guard, in the poorly lit unfinished store spaces.

    I cannot understand why anyone with any self-respect would wait in line longer than 10 minutes to buy an overpriced, soon to be obsolete, piece of consumer junk.

    If you just wait a few weeks you will probably be able to buy one in 3 minutes and get a better product than what is available now.

  •  I have no plans (0+ / 0-)

    to buy an iPad.  I won't own a computer I can't physically open.

    If I stop believing in gravity, will creationists float away?

    by Idgie Threadgoode on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 10:48:39 AM PDT

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