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I wonder why people find it hard to accept people at their word. Virginia
voters had the WRITTEN words of the then candidate Robert McDonnel as to
what he thought about women, gays and other UNACCEPTABLES of society.
Why would they then vote this man into office?

Well, thats history. McDonnell the Govenor is doing just exactly as he
planned to when he got into office. He has rolled back laws for the protection of gays and blacks and now he is actively trying to roll back
history.

He has issued a proclamation that in effect PROMOTES THE SUPPORT OF THE
MURDERERS of President Lincoln. Those traitors and dissenters wanted to
destroy the nation and when they couldnt do it fairly they decided to
sneak and arrange the murder of our nations President.

Nevermind that those craven destroyers changed the history of this nation
and silenced the voice of one who would have healed the land and prevented the return of "Supreme Court sanctioned pseudo-slavery. Apparently,McDonnell feels that they did not received the HEROES  
death that they should have received so HE is going to make sure that they do now. The Confederates were in direct conflict with the nation.
They ATTACKED the nation and attempted an assault on the capital itself.
Why would now any validity be given to this REBELLION. What would the
nation be asked to support the actions of rebels intent on destroying
the nation.

Gov. McDonnell tries to cover his actions up by dressing them in some
gown of Purity of conviction by leaving out all mention of slavery.
He thinks to make STATES RIGHTS the theme and cover for his real reason
for this proclamation. McDonnell means to REWRITE history and try to
fight a NEW Civil War a New Way. He means to try and take the nation by
putting a clean face on filthy reasoning.

What can we expect next, the placing of Jefferson Davis' picture in the
White House next to all the other American Presidents. The Confederates
made their OWN nation. They chose to become NON American citizens. After
the south lost the war, all the soldiers had to take oaths of loyalty
to the UNION's United States, otherwise, they remained NON citizens.
Any effort to legitimize the Confederacy should be negated emphatically.

The theory of STATES RIGHTS has no more support now than it did in 1860.
The South tries the sell the opinion that States of the United States
HAD and still HAS the RIGHT to BUY or STEAL people (black people) from
another land; bring them here in chains and keep them in PERPETUAL
servitude by means of ARMS; due to some sanctity of American STATES
RIGHTS.

Where is that written in the world? Where did other nations sign on to
these States Rights? Where did the people who they captured or bought
AGREE to these STATES RIGHTS of the southern American people.

What this IS and WAS was plain STEALING and KIDNAPPING.  Nowhere in
history, other than in a war, can you claim contraband. Nowhere in the
world can you BUY SOMETHING THAT IS STOLEN and CLAIM OWNERSHIP!!!!!

They law did and still maintains that you cannot keep ownership of STOLEN
GOODS. The goods have to be returned to their proper owner. The founders
of the nation left this issue of slavery muddy because they knew it could
not be JUSTIFIED within the Constitution.

They knew very well PEOPLE should not be slaves, that is why they passed
laws to EXEMPT whites from slavery. Only (blacks) could be slaves in
the United States. This was in order that the white gentry could stay
the wealthy white gentry. THE THEN SUPREME COURT MEMBERS OWNED SLAVES
THEMSELVES SO IT WAS IN THEIR OWN SELF INTEREST WHAT THEY VOTED INTO LAW. They had no trouble with supporting the "3/5TH'S LAW OR THE FUGITIVE SLAVE LAW". They could accept the tortured reasoning of black people
being not human.

They accepted these reasonings even though they were WORLD travelers
and had seen blacks in authority in numerous countries over the world.
They knew they could read and write because the U.S. had treaties with
black nations. It was just plain convenient for monetary reasons to
accept false justifications.  

Justices with those same leanings, later had no trouble with the "Jim
Crow" and "Segregation Laws" and "Grandfather poll tax Laws". It will
be the same with this Roberts Court. The Supreme Court will become the
lapdog of the Republican Party.

We are finding these same types in the Supreme Court now gradually
changing the settled law of the land and reversing the course of history.
This is no accident, this has been well thought out and planned by the
Republican Party. Their Endgame is clear.

We see McDonnell changing Virginia law with his shady Executive Laws and
Proclamations. We will have to wait to see if the majority of Virginians
are going to sit still or demand that the man be REMOVED from office
or pass NEW Virginia laws to constrain his authority.

If no one stands against him, his methods will SPREAD all over the nation.
The Media will take it up and give him all the assist he needs because the
Media is owned by Corporations, who do support the Republicans, who in
turn support THEM. They have a symbiotic relationship that will attempt  
to reverse this nation's laws as surely and day follows night.

To stand silent in the face of the actions of this DANGEROUS man is to
play with fire. Black people in Virginia and over the nation had better
become concerned for their welfare and act accordingly.

If he does succeed in his acts against blacks, do not think he will not
proceed to women as a whole. It started with gays, now its blacks, just
WHO do you think will be next.

We stay silent at our own peril!!!!!

Originally posted to Taming the FOX on Wed Apr 07, 2010 at 08:04 AM PDT.

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    •  Great Rant (1+ / 0-)
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      powderblue

      Could we get some links to the proclamation and some news stories? Thanks in advance.

      T.

      History does not always repeat itself. Sometimes it just yells "Can't you remember anything I told you?" and lets fly with a club. ~ John W. Campbell

      by troutwaxer on Wed Apr 07, 2010 at 08:10:39 AM PDT

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    •  Here is McDonnell's proclamation on Confederate (3+ / 0-)

      History Month.

      http://www.governor.virginia.gov/...

      There is a lot of reason to disdain/condemn McDonnell for this.

      But, I didn't see anything in here about Lincoln or his killers.

      Please support your claims or retract/rewrite.  I'm no McDonnell supporter (by far) but we need to avoid the whole Rosanne Rosanna Danna thing if we can on KOS.

      •  History has consequences... (1+ / 0-)
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        powderblue

        ...if you don't mention slavery when talking about the Civil War you're winking to the revisionists out there who pretend that the war was about...you know...tariffs or something.

        Background on John Wiles Booth:

        Booth became politically active in the 1850s, joining the Know-Nothing Party, an organization devoted to reducing the stream of immigrants into the United States.  Booth ardently supported the institution of slavery and in 1859 joined a Virginia company that aided in the capture of John Brown after his raid at Harper's Ferry.  Booth was an eyewitness to Brown's execution.

        During the Civil War, Booth worked as a Confederate secret agent.  He met frequently with the heads of the Secret Service, Jacob Thompson and Clement Clay, in Montreal.

        This is John Wilkes Booth on Lincoln:

        On April 14, 1865, after the fall of Richmond rendered moot his kidnap scheme, Booth set in motion his final plan--one of assassination.  Booth may have made the decision to kill the President after hearing Lincoln deliver a speech urging Negro suffrage, according to Booth's former friend, Louis Weichmann.  Weichmann spoke of his viewing of the the President's speech with Booth:

        "I had never seen Mr. Lincoln up close and I knew he was a tall man, however nothing could have prepared me for the sight of him. A long shadow did he have. And his arms, when at his sides, touched near his knees. Very professionally he said that there would never be any suffrage based on differences in the way people look. Upon this, Booth turned to the two of us and said, "That means nigger citizenship. Now by God I’ll put him through!"

        link: http://www.law.umkc.edu/...

        I don't mind the diarist taking a swipe at this poorly worded proclamation by the Gov, and his poorly worded defense of it - by not addressing the issue of slavery he opened up a huge can of worms.

        "The revolution's just an ethical haircut away..." Billy Bragg

        by grannyhelen on Wed Apr 07, 2010 at 08:26:26 AM PDT

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        •  Great Link (2+ / 0-)
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          grannyhelen, powderblue

          I hadnt seen this link before. I dont generally like
          to read about Booth because he seemed such a contradiction.

          His brother neither his father seem to share is
          ideology. I think it strange that he was against
          new immigrants since his father was one from
          England.

          It always amazes me how people can condemn others
          when they have the same roots.

        •  Well, support from Grannyhelen (1+ / 0-)
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          grannyhelen

          is worth a lot, sincerely.

          I do think some citations would have been nice and that there is plenty in the McDonnell proclamation to target without the title suggesting that there's a proclamation thanking John Wilkes Booth a state hero.

          But then, I've been a little touchy lately about chapter and verse, and the lack of it (and in a few cases, reading comprehension issues) in a few things I've seen lately on the Rec list, so maybe this diarist is getting some excess attitude from me based on that.  

          •  Understood - had I been writing a diary on this I (1+ / 0-)
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            powderblue

            probably would have phrased things differently, but what I appreciate in here is the passion the diarist is showing. The Civil War is not "old news" and it continues to shape our politics today...

            ...sometimes you need a little impolitic ranting to get that point across :-)

            "The revolution's just an ethical haircut away..." Billy Bragg

            by grannyhelen on Wed Apr 07, 2010 at 08:41:14 AM PDT

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      •  The Confederacy (2+ / 0-)
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        should be studied - I'm currently reading a 1500 page trilogy about the Civil War - and Virginia did play an enormous and important part in that war, but the Governor's phrasing is biased and ugly, at least to the ears of this boy from California.

        On the other hand, maybe this isn't the proclamation the poster refers to...

        T.

        History does not always repeat itself. Sometimes it just yells "Can't you remember anything I told you?" and lets fly with a club. ~ John W. Campbell

        by troutwaxer on Wed Apr 07, 2010 at 08:28:24 AM PDT

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        •  The part in the proclamation about (1+ / 0-)
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          grannyhelen

          the civil war being relevant to today, hint-hint-hint, is a pretty obvious dog whistle for those who like to fantasize about secession.  As if secession would be helpful even to their misguided causes. [bolding mine below]

          ....
          "WHEREAS,   this defining chapter in Virginia’s history should not be forgotten, but instead should be studied, understood and remembered by all Virginians, both in the context of the time in which it took place, but also in the context of the time in which we live, and this study and remembrance takes on particular importance as the Commonwealth prepares to welcome the nation and the world to visit Virginia for the Sesquicentennial Anniversary of the Civil War, a four-year period in which the exploration of our history can benefit all; ...."

          •  If we're going there, you could also point out (2+ / 0-)
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            Lincoln's stance on giving freed slaves the right to vote and the fact that we have the 1st African American President.

            One cannot decouple race from this history - I think McDonnell was being too cute by half and (hopefully) inadvertantly stuck his foot in historical doodoo.

            "The revolution's just an ethical haircut away..." Billy Bragg

            by grannyhelen on Wed Apr 07, 2010 at 08:54:43 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

    •  Great rant! (2+ / 0-)
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      I hit this last night as well, so if you don't mind I'll copy the proclamations.

      WHEREAS,  April is the month in which the people of Virginia joined the Confederate States of America in a four year war between the states for independence that concluded at Appomattox Courthouse; and

      WHEREAS,  Virginia has long recognized her Confederate history, the numerous civil war battlefields that mark every  region of the state, the leaders and individuals in the Army, Navy and at home who fought for their homes and communities and Commonwealth in a time very different than ours today; and

      WHEREAS,  it is important for all Virginians to reflect upon our Commonwealth’s  shared history, to understand the sacrifices of the Confederate leaders, soldiers and citizens during the period of the Civil War, and to recognize how our history has led to our present; and

      WHEREAS, Confederate historical sites such as the White House of the Confederacy are open for people to visit in Richmond today, and

      WHEREAS, all Virginians can appreciate the fact that when ultimately overwhelmed by the insurmountable numbers and resources of the Union Army, the surviving, imprisoned and injured Confederate soldiers gave their word and allegiance to the United States of America, and returned to their homes and families to rebuild their communities in peace, following the instruction of General Robert E. Lee of Virginia, who wrote that, "...all should unite in honest efforts to obliterate the effects of war and to restore the blessings of peace."; and

      WHEREAS,   this defining chapter in Virginia’s history should not be forgotten, but instead should be studied, understood and remembered by all Virginians, both in the context of the time in which it took place, but also in the context of the time in which we live, and this study and remembrance takes on particular importance as the Commonwealth prepares to welcome the nation and the world to visit Virginia for the Sesquicentennial Anniversary of the Civil War, a four-year period in which the exploration of our history can benefit all;
      NOW, THEREFORE, I, Robert McDonnell, do hereby recognize April 2010 as CONFEDERATE HISTORY MONTH in our COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA, and I call this observance to the attention of all our citizens

      The largest stinking pile of the most unvarnished bullshit i've ever read.

      Oh just for the record I'll place the original proclamation where this spawn of those evil mofos left the union.

      AN ORDINANCE

      To Repeal the ratification of the Constitution of the United States of America, by the State of Virginia, and to resume all the rights and powers granted under said Constitution:

      The people of Virginia, in their ratification of the Constitution of the United States of America, adopted by them in Convention, on the 25th day of June, in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eight-eight, having declared that the powers granted them under the said Constitution were derived from the people of the United States, and might be resumed whensoever the same should be perverted to their injury and oppression, and the Federal Government having perverted said powers, not only to the injury of the people of Virginia, but to the oppression of the Southern slaveholding States.
      Now, therefore, we, the people of Virginia, do declare and ordain that the Ordinance adopted by the people of this State in Convention, on the twenty-fifth day of June, in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and seventy-eight, whereby the Constitution of the United States of America was ratified, and all acts of the General Assembly of this State, ratifying or adopting amendments to said Constitution, are hereby repealed and abrogated; that the union between the State of Virginia and the other States under the Constitution aforesaid, is hereby dissolved, and that the State of Virginia is in the full possession and exercise of all the rights of sovereignty which belong to a free and independent State. And they do further declare that the said Constitution of the United State of America is no longer binding on any of the citizens of this State.

      This Ordinance shall take effect and be an act of this day when ratified by a majority of the votes of the people of this State, cast at a poll to be taken thereon on the fourth Thursday in May next, in pursuance of a schedule hereafter to be enacted.

      Done in Convention, in the city of Richmond, on the seventeenth day of April, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-one, and in the eighty-fifth year of the Commonwealth of Virginia

      JNO. L. EUBANK,
      Sec'y of Convention

      And for those who may want to do something contact to the Virginia tourism board where I let them know I'd rather lick possum ass in the gutter for a quarter than visit their state under the command of racist.  

      VAinfo@helloinc.com

      Telephone: (800) VISIT VA
      (800-847-4882)

      My leader is Barack Hussein Obama the finest President this country has ever elected. Face Front and Respect

      by Adept2u on Wed Apr 07, 2010 at 08:54:40 AM PDT

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      •  Wonder if McDonnell understands the desertion (1+ / 0-)
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        rates among Confederate Army soldiers in the Commonwealth of Virginia:

        As food shortages and Union incursions deep into the Confederate heartland began to take their toll on Southern morale, desertions increased at an alarming rate, especially among conscripts. Virginia soldiers, under the added inducement of being relatively close to home, were especially apt to leave the ranks, if only for spring planting and fall harvest. In June 1862, Confederate general James Longstreet estimated that, of the 32,000 Virginia soldiers under his command, fully 7,000 were absent without leave.

        link: http://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/...

        Let's reflect on that one as well...secession ain't as popular as some would like to spin it.

        "The revolution's just an ethical haircut away..." Billy Bragg

        by grannyhelen on Wed Apr 07, 2010 at 09:01:18 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Actually, they were anti-states rights... (3+ / 0-)
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    Lefty Mama, Adept2u, powderblue

    ...as another person put it in a different thread, South Carolina seceded because other states weren't enforcing the Dred Scott decision with enough gusto:

    The Constitution of the United States, in its fourth Article, provides as follows:

    [p18]
    "No person held to service or labor in one State, under the laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labor, but shall be delivered up, on claim of the party to whom such service or labor may be due."

    [p19]
    This stipulation was so material to the compact, that without it that compact would not have been made. The greater number of the contracting parties held slaves, and they had previously evinced their estimate of the value of such a stipulation by making it a condition in the Ordinance for the government of the territory ceded by Virginia, which now composes the States north of the Ohio River.

    [p20]
    The same article of the Constitution stipulates also for rendition by the several States of fugitives from justice from the other States.

    [p21]
    The General Government, as the common agent, passed laws to carry into effect these stipulations of the States. For many years these laws were executed. But an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution. The States of Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin and Iowa, have enacted laws which either nullify the Acts of Congress or render useless any attempt to execute them. In many of these States the fugitive is discharged from service or labor claimed, and in none of them has the State Government complied with the stipulation made in the Constitution. The State of New Jersey, at an early day, passed a law in conformity with her constitutional obligation; but the current of anti-slavery feeling has led her more recently to enact laws which render inoperative the remedies provided by her own law and by the laws of Congress. In the State of New York even the right of transit for a slave has been denied by her tribunals; and the States of Ohio and Iowa have refused to surrender to justice fugitives charged with murder, and with inciting servile insurrection in the State of Virginia. Thus the constituted compact has been deliberately broken and disregarded by the non-slaveholding States, and the consequence follows that South Carolina is released from her obligation.

    snip

    The right of property in slaves was recognized by giving to free persons distinct political rights, by giving them the right to represent, and burthening them with direct taxes for three-fifths of their slaves; by authorizing the importation of slaves for twenty years; and by stipulating for the rendition of fugitives from labor.

    [p24]
    We affirm that these ends for which this Government was instituted have been defeated, and the Government itself has been made destructive of them by the action of the non-slaveholding States. Those States have assumed the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the citizens of other States. They have encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes; and those who remain, have been incited by emissaries, books and pictures to servile insurrection.

    link: http://facweb.furman.edu/...

    So, there you go. The Federal Govt wasn't policing the states enough with regard to the issue of slavery.

    "The revolution's just an ethical haircut away..." Billy Bragg

    by grannyhelen on Wed Apr 07, 2010 at 08:14:37 AM PDT

    •  I see can see part of their reasoning IN THE U.S. (3+ / 0-)
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      How did they justify this when the (people) they
      claim was theirs was KIDNAPPED or STOLEN from their
      own land.

      The property was still STOLEN, even the benefit
      (prodgidy} of that Property should have been
      forfeit by their own laws.

      •  The justification was through a thought process (3+ / 0-)
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        that tried to claim that this was their "natural station", that they had "provided for" these slaves all of their lives, that Africans couldn't "understand" how to be productive without being enslaved (that attitude led to forced prison labor after Reconstruction), that they were "inferior" to the "white race", that they were descended from Ham who had offended Noah and that's why they were enslaved, that everybody else was doing it and that's why they started doing it...

        ...and, finally, that if they did free the slaves those slaves would rise up and kill all the white people. John Brown really freaked out a lot of Southerners like Booth.

        Basically, a bunch of nonsense...but that people base their morality on self-serving political nonsense shouldn't surprise anyone this day and age :-)

        "The revolution's just an ethical haircut away..." Billy Bragg

        by grannyhelen on Wed Apr 07, 2010 at 08:46:47 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Recommend different response 2 neo-con(federates) (0+ / 0-)

    This is too emotional and just not going to create a situation where there are fewer of our political opponents and more of the people who agree with us.  I would recommend humor as your preferred weapon, starting with perhaps a disparaging comparison of today's Sofa Stonewalls with the actual Confederates of yore.

    You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

    by Cartoon Peril on Wed Apr 07, 2010 at 08:15:31 AM PDT

  •  The Civil War was an armed revolt against (4+ / 0-)

    the lawful government of the United States ..

    It was a case of the South losing at the ballot box, so  Southern people opened the bullet box....(just like some tea-baggers are threatening to do today)

    Proclamations, declarations, and statements by political leaders that attempt to portray the Confederacy as a 'defense of their homes' instead of an armed rebellion should not be tolerated but instead condemned loudly and strongly ...

    The Civil War caused the death of many people ..it caused horrible racial divisions .. it is a sad sad period in our nation's history ..so is the aftermath of that war .. but since the war ended the South launched a campaign to portray itself as the poor persecuted victim of a horrible war..

    and it won that publicity war ...

    Give your heart a real workout! Love your enemies!

    by moonbatlulu on Wed Apr 07, 2010 at 08:59:37 AM PDT

    •  "the valiantly fell back" (1+ / 0-)
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      One of my personal favorite bizarro experiences in Southern revisionism was visiting the Cyclorama in Atlanta, and having the narrator explain that the Confederate Army "valiantly fell back" when confronted with Sherman's offensive.

      They didn't "retreat", they "valiantly fell back".

      Funny and sad, that.

      "The revolution's just an ethical haircut away..." Billy Bragg

      by grannyhelen on Wed Apr 07, 2010 at 09:06:44 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  VA. should recall Klansmen McDonnell, Cuccinelli (0+ / 0-)

    Time for a cool change.

    by ohnoyoudont on Wed Apr 07, 2010 at 09:27:01 AM PDT

  •  If need be, The South We'll Raze Again (0+ / 0-)

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