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Research 2000 for Daily Kos. 4/12-14. Likely voters. MoE 4% (3/22-24 results)

Democratic primary MoE 5%

Blanche Lincoln (D) 45 (44)
Bill Halter (D) 33 (31)
Other 6 (0)
Undecided 16 (25)

Favorable/Unfavorable/No opinion among Democrats

Lincoln 65/31/4 (62/34/6)
Halter 69/11/23 (68/10/27)

That +1 gain for Halter in the horserace is well within the poll's margin of error, and presents nothing more than float. The favorabilities are actually quite the story -- the Lincoln campaign has been relentlessly negative on Halter, yet none of that mud (all of it ridiculous and false) has tainted Halter. He's shrugged off all attacks with nary a problem.

On the other side, Lincoln has faced a barrage of negative ads from Halter allies in labor, yet those have done little to damage Lincoln. In fact, she's up a net +6 in her favorabilities. Apparently, Arkansas Democrats aren't paying too much attention to the negativity.

On the other hand, we've seen "other" shoot up from nothing two weeks ago, to six percent this week. That "other" is D.C. Morrison, who scored 10 percent in a poll for Arkansas business publication Talk Business. Morrison is a no-name conservadem spending no money in the race. But in a race turning nasty, he's starting to pick up support by virtue of not being the other two candidates.

Morrison may end up being a player in this race -- Arkansas requires 50+1 percent to win. If no candidate gets an outright majority, there will be a runoff three weeks later. Right now, Lincoln is still far from 50 percent, and while Halter may not have gained significant ground the last two weeks, the underlying fundamentals are still in his favor -- undecideds almost always break against the incumbent.

Halter's big challenge -- how can he raise Lincoln's unfavorabilities without tainting his own? Going negative is a two-edged sword, and thus far, Halter has avoided slinging the mud himself, leaving that up to his allies.

In the general:

Blanche Lincoln (D) 43 (42)
John Boozman (R)    50 (49)

Bill Halter (D)     41 (40)
John Boozman (R)    48 (48)

Blanche Lincoln (D) 42 (43)
Kim Hendren (R)     49 (48)

Bill Halter (D)     43 (44)
Kim Hendren (R)     46 (45)

Blanche Lincoln (D) 41 (41)
Gilbert Baker (R)   48 (49)

Bill Halter (D)     43 (44)
Gilbert Baker (R)   45 (46)

Blanche Lincoln (D) 43 (44)
Curtis Coleman (R)  46 (47)

Bill Halter (D)     44 (45)
Curtis Coleman (R)  43 (44)

Blanche Lincoln (D) 43 (43)
Tom Cox (R)         46 (47)

Bill Halter (D)     44 (45)
Tom Cox (R)         43 (43)

Not much change, just tiny float within the margin of error. But look at the favorabilities:

Favorable/Unfavorable/No opinion among all voters

Lincoln (D) 43/53/4 (42/52/6)
Halter (D) 47/30/23 (46/27/27)
Boozman (R) 45/31/24 (44/30/26)

Lincoln is still a failed politician, hated by her state. Independents rate her at 41/57/2. Halter has a 46/30/24 favorability rating among independents. Boozman, the most likely Republican nominee, is at 45/29/26 with the indies.

Lincoln doesn't stand a chance in the general with numbers like that. Halter remains the most popular politician in this race, more so than the probably Republican nominee, and is essentially tied among independents with Boozman.

If we want to win this thing in November, our best chance is still with Halter.

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  •  Timely n/t (1+ / 0-)
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    RLMiller

    The best way to save the planet is to keep laughing!

    by LaughingPlanet on Thu Apr 15, 2010 at 12:42:57 PM PDT

  •  Halter's other big challenge (2+ / 0-)
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    tr GW, sluggahjells

    is to answer questions regarding climate that journalists have put to him.  He's been avoiding taking firm stands on environment and climate issues since getting into the race.

    Finally broke down, joined the twittering classes: RL_Miller

    by RLMiller on Thu Apr 15, 2010 at 12:44:02 PM PDT

  •  when is the primary? n/t (0+ / 0-)
  •  If she is not defeated via primary... (0+ / 0-)

    and gets re-elected there will be hell to pay for the next six years.  I'd rather vote Boozman in to tell you the truth.  I also think the Halter primary challenge helps her chances of re-election as she's painted as "not liberal enough" for Democrats and she can run on that in the general.

    Politics is like playing Asteroids - You go far enough to the left and you end up on the right. Or vice-versa.

    by Jonze on Thu Apr 15, 2010 at 12:47:11 PM PDT

    •  Boozman? NO WAY!! (0+ / 0-)

      I plan to vote for Halter, but if Blanche some how defeats him ... I would definitely vote for her [unless a Green Party candidate get involved]. All of those Republicans are crazy. I can't believe you'd even jokingly say you'd do that!! LOL! :)

    •  Preferring Boozman to Lincoln is crazy (3+ / 0-)
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      tnproud2b, eieio nyc, Egalitare

      But probably not too uncommon after all the hate spewed toward her here over the past few months.

      I also think the Halter primary challenge helps her chances of re-election as she's painted as "not liberal enough" for Democrats and she can run on that in the general.

      I agree with this.  Everyone seems to ignore the fact that Lincoln's popularity in Arkansas dropped because she's been more supportive of Obama's agenda (voting for the stimulus and HCR) than her constituents wanted her to be.  Her approval rating among independents has sunk because they view her as too liberal.  

      And while beating back a challenge from the left will help Lincoln in the general, it also raises the question of how Halter has a better chance than Lincoln in the general after running to the left of the incumbent who is seen as too liberal.

  •  Bill Halter pulls out the Big Dawg (0+ / 0-)

    An interesting and clever strategy as Bill Clinton is said to be supporting Blanche, though he hasn't made an ad for her or committed to an appearance with her yet.

    Here we are now Entertain us I feel stupid and contagious

    by Scarce on Thu Apr 15, 2010 at 12:58:45 PM PDT

  •  Okay, where the hell is everyone? (5+ / 0-)

    This website exists to elect Democrats.  Twenty minutes after an exclusive poll is posted on what's supposed to be our central race right now, and this is the eighth comment?

    There's been a lot of meta going on, and post-HIR fatigue and blame.  It's time to regroup and refocus on races that matter.

  •  Please keep this at/near top of page (0+ / 0-)

    thank you!! we need to keep the pressure on, per YOUR earlier Health Care comments...in for a penny, in for a pound!!

  •  Even in a conservative state, being a (2+ / 0-)
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    karmsy, Egalitare

    ConservaDem doesn't help you. As Halter's numbers show, it's always better to be true to your principles. At least you can count on the actual base of your party's support.  

    It's not a campaign anymore, Mr. Obama.

    by huntergeo on Thu Apr 15, 2010 at 01:00:57 PM PDT

    •  The primary electorate is the base (1+ / 0-)
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      AmericanIdeal

      And the numbers show Lincoln with a double digit lead over Halter in the primary.

      •  Sen. Lincoln's lead among likely... (1+ / 0-)
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        Partially Impartial

        ...Dem Primary participants shows that I don't know Jack Shit about Arkansas Democrats. I really did figure that she had created enough discontent among enough activists that she was going to go down, if only by a whisker. There's still a month to go, but a lot of ground for Halter to make up.

        I will respect the outcome of this Primary, and I guess I might even be somewhat relieved if Lincoln (assuming her lead is actualized in the Primary) pulls it out in November, but I'm still trying to digest this.

        "Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will." -- Frederick Douglass

        by Egalitare on Thu Apr 15, 2010 at 01:37:20 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  Huh. (0+ / 0-)

      With under a month to go, I don't see that. Perhaps you could elaborate.

      The Democratic base in Arkansas, in other words likely primary voters, appears to lean pretty strongly to Lincoln, by over double digits in almost any poll. Halter's favorability ratings are somewhat better, but immaterially so, and he'd need to scoop up nearly an 80% or more favorable rating with those left who don't know him to even have a swan's chance here. That would be a bold grab in a race where he is getting pounded on daily by a known quantity that isn't exactly universally hated, even within her own party.

      And yes, being a "ConservaDem" may still help you in the south, although if not that, I'd hardly think Halter's showing here so far is proving that being a "true Dem" helps one fare ANY better, and that is the ugly subtext I fear we are setting ourselves up for here, if Halter gets thumped in the primary. Don't you?

      •  Elaboration. (0+ / 0-)

        Lincoln is still a failed politician, hated by her state. Independents rate her at 41/57/2. Halter has a 46/30/24 favorability rating among independents. Boozman, the most likely Republican nominee, is at 45/29/26 with the indies.

        Lincoln doesn't stand a chance in the general with numbers like that. Halter remains the most popular politician in this race, more so than the probably Republican nominee, and is essentially tied among independents with Boozman.

        If we want to win this thing in November, our best chance is still with Halter.

        Ok, he's got a hard row to hoe, but I prefer the chances of getting him in the general.

        We're awfully quick to abandon our faithful, and I guess going against that is the MO of my comment. BTW, I am a southerner, from one of those recently blue southern states. It won't be easy for any Dem this fall in Arkansas.  

        It's not a campaign anymore, Mr. Obama.

        by huntergeo on Thu Apr 15, 2010 at 08:37:24 PM PDT

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        •  I am not abandoning anyone... (1+ / 0-)
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          huntergeo

          I can appreciate everyones' love for Bill Halter, as I said before. But I have been consistently posting on here and elsewhere that this was/is a BAD political idea, and I'm simply restating that now that polls are clearly backing that up in hopes that somehow we will all learn a lesson from this.

          I totally agree with you that the road is a steep one for any Democrat in Arkansas this fall. My point exactly. And it didn't take a rocket scientist or even a leader in the field of political science to discern that and anticipate it well before the "drafting" of Halter occurred several weeks ago. That groups like the PCCC and FDL, as well as the DNC, so blindly overlooked that before placing so much emphasis on the "point we are proving" by primarying Lincoln here has me greatly concerned that the Democratic political apparatus is fundamentally broken.

  •  Look to me like we lose her seat... (0+ / 0-)

    Is that better than having her there?  I don't know.

    Go Bill.  

    Not all conservatives are paranoid, but all paranoids are conservative

    by DrWolfy on Thu Apr 15, 2010 at 01:03:12 PM PDT

    •  No. Simple answer. (1+ / 0-)
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      Egalitare

      ALthough it would've been much better NOT to have dropped the cash on it, and thrown the "clout" of the progressive netroots behind the loss, especially if our guy can't even clear the primary.

      I posted below - this was a tragic mistake and political miscalculation IMHO. I said so in January, and stand firm behind that now.

      I'm rooting for a miracle, and I love Bill Halter, but this doesn't look good.

  •  She's still under 50%, (4+ / 0-)

    but leading by double-digits. With only a month to go that's an awful lot of ground to make up.

    If there is no accountability for those who authorized torture, we can no longer say that we are a nation of laws, not men.

    by MikePhoenix on Thu Apr 15, 2010 at 01:03:43 PM PDT

  •  Kos, where is your Hawaii Special Election Poll (0+ / 0-)

    you mentioned on your twitter.

    Wonder if Mason-Dixon has a Poll in the Field here. They did test this Race in January.

  •  Don't get negative people!! (2+ / 0-)
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    lpackard, Egalitare

    OK, I'm noticing all these comments are kind of poopy pants about this race!! It's April 15 ... The primary is MAY 18!! This race is going to get a whole hell of a lot more interesting!! RELAX people!! You are only giving ammunition to the GOP and God help, we do not need that shenanigans.

    •  I'm not callling it negative, but reassessment (0+ / 0-)

      Some of us are wondering if we overestimated the peril that Lincoln was in.

      I hold out the possibility that Halter can still catch her on May 18, but now I must concede that she may indeed have a reasonably accurate read on her base support, and maybe with her taking (on balance, so far) a positive role in Financial Reform as Chair of the Ag Committee she is less vulnerable in November than I assumed only days ago.

      "Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will." -- Frederick Douglass

      by Egalitare on Thu Apr 15, 2010 at 07:50:02 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Until... (0+ / 0-)

        Until the Arkansas Political Royalty come out and say who they are for, I think Halter has a shot. Once we hear from David Pryor, Dale Bumpers, Bill Clinton, etc., I think decisions will be made. For some reason, in this state, once they talk all the Dems fall in line.
        I just hope Marion Berry is wrong with his endorsement of her due to his hatred of Halter. I also hope that Clinton has a sense of loyalty to someone that served in his administration.

  •  don't need a poll to know... (0+ / 0-)

    ...who our true friends are. It's as plain as the face holding our bloodied noses. True to her corporate masters from beginning to end, Blanche Lincoln opposed HCR from the get-go, doing everything in her power to stop it dead in its tracks. And despite the fact she lied about it to her constituents in Arkansas, she got lots of party street-cred from our president when he endorsed her for re-election. I just don't undertand Obama's version eleven-dimensional chess. Where I come from, I play chess-and politics to win. "Senate comity" and "bipartisanship" will prove our undoing, and endless compromise just to hang on to dino conservadems and Blue-dogs who couldn't give a rats ass about the working class and have shown day after day where their true loyalties lie, simply-put need to be shown the door, not coddled.

    And don't even get me cranking on that turncoat Joe Lieberman's treacherous support of McCain-Palin, whose party treason I've warned about here for years.

    "Peace is the protector of genius. War is the mortal enemy of both peace and genius."

    by ImpeachKingBushII on Thu Apr 15, 2010 at 01:09:35 PM PDT

    •  LIEberman (0+ / 0-)

      definitely needs the boot.

    •  She did everything in her power to stop HCR? (1+ / 0-)
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      eieio nyc

      You know she voted for it, right?

      •  She voted for it and against it (1+ / 0-)
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        ImpeachKingBushII

        That way she can claim anything at any point.

        •  You're right that she tried to protect herself (1+ / 0-)
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          eieio nyc

          But the fact is that she voted for the substantive bill when we needed her vote, despite it being hugely unpopular in her state.  

          She then voted against the minor fixes when we didn't need her vote, which may or may not have helped her re-election chances.

          •  Minor fixes? (0+ / 0-)

            Who knew the senate bill would eventually become law? She hedged all along, either way, her blanket claim now is false.

          •  she made Ed Schultz's "psycho talk"... (0+ / 0-)

            ...for her duplicitous stands, her triangulation, and political manuevering, and he even called her a liar at one point when she ran false ads back home. And I think he's a great judge of character. What do you think about all those who opposed the TARP funding publicly, but as soon as they got home, they couldn't get in front of the local special interest groups getting their pictures taken holding big "Publisher's Clearinghouse"-size checks? Well, she claimed a lot of credit when she did everything in her power to embarass our president before the HCR final vote, when she knew her duty to this party and nation who were dying, begging, and losing HCR everyday, came before anything else. I'll never forgive her for that, because there's millions of Americans who can't speak for themselves. She's in the position to do something about it and she let the American people down for the last time as a sitting US Senator, in my book.

            "Peace is the protector of genius. War is the mortal enemy of both peace and genius."

            by ImpeachKingBushII on Thu Apr 15, 2010 at 03:01:32 PM PDT

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  •  I've said it before... (6+ / 0-)

    IMHO, this strategy was a severe political miscalculation in the truest sense from the get go.

    At best, Arkansas is a "slight lean Dem" state. More frequently, the electorate in Arkansas trends conservative, with the state glowing a hint of red, unless your name is Clinton.

    I can't stand Blanche Lincoln. She appears to me bought and sold twenty times over by interests that do not care about the people of the state or the nation, but instead only of profits and bending the rules. I wish there was a better answer in Arkansas.

    But all of the money, time, focus, energy and frankly chest-pumping now pointed toward this state and "our" progressive champion Bill Halter puts the stakes much higher than a single seat in the Senate. With any failure, either in the primary (possible) or general (likely), this will be painted as a broad referendum on whether this southern state has any taste for a liberal candidate. This will be pointed to as a massive failure by the progressive netroots and far left to hand pick a candidate and flood him with cash and support, only to see him rebuffed in the election. And in the end, we will have missed out on directing this money, time, attention and focus on areas of the electoral map where it is far more likely a positive outcome can be achieved, with long term reliable impact to be gained.

    Let's face it - Arkansas resides in today's conservative south. A locale where thinking and ideas, priorities and attitudes are FAR different than the rest of mainstream America. We are "proving a point" to a Senator who even by the measures herein is not by any stretch the "collossal failure" we are trying to paint her as. Heck, by that standard, if we are going to paint an incumbant in this election year with 40+% favorability ratings a "disaster", we'd better be prepared to face the harsh truth about at least a dozen other Dem Senators and numerous House members -- not to mention the President, whose overall favorability ratings could mirror those of Lincoln's within the near future, as the election rhetoric and anti-establishment tone sets in on the nation.

    I admire Bill Halter. I much more closely agree with his views than with Blanche Lincoln's. I would love to see him elected. But despite all of that love and admiration, does it ever occur to anyone what the downside of propping him up like this, and boldly proclaiming (as FDL and other progressive groups have done) that progressives have made this happen, could be if/when this candidate doesn't even clear the hurdle of "one of the worst Senators in the land" as we insist on labeling Lincoln. What the possible ramifications of 6 more years of Lincoln could mean to any progressive agenda needing her vote? And yes, I know, she has let us down many times when we did need her vote. But she has also come through many times as well.

    Whatever your views on Lincoln, it is undeniable and irrefutable that Republicans seated in, and "representing", liberal leaning states and/or Obama districts, represent a far greater threat to the progressive agenda and a far more onerous deinal of their constituents' rights than does Blanche Lincoln. It is unconscionable to me that we would prioritize this race and this primary over similarly concerted efforts to rectify the injustice created by Judd Gregg in New Hampshire. By Olympia Snowe in Maine. By potentially risking a loss in Obama's former seat in Illinois and/or Biden's former seat in Delaware. That we would continue to ignore the potential for righting the wrongs in Iowa, where Chuck Grassley denies the will of the 54% who voted Dem in 2008 there, and for not seizing the unique and game-breaking opportunities to change the electoral landscape by mobilizing the masses of immigrants and hispanic Americans throughout Colorado, Arizona, Nevada, Texas, and New Mexico -- all areas where the same passion, fervor and will being shown (somewhat) in Arkansas could produce far more reaching opportunities for political clout and momentum in the bigger picture than a single seat in a southern state.

    Have the far left become so myopic and rigid in their desire for retribution and "comeuppance" that the entirety of any political landscape of broad strategy is willing to be flushed down a toilet of self-righteousness and vindication? Are we willing to turn our backs on the political tsunami being created by admirable teachers in Florida, and by hard core supporters in Texas, while we "rain down in fury" on a state that is, at best, lukewarm about the message of progressive idealism and social change that we were seeking in 2009? I believe we may just be.

    Funny - until the very last week, this site and our progressive community was completely out cold and oblivious to the critical message at stake in Massachusetts, mirroring the complacency and diverted attention of a horrific candidate that should never have been in the position to lose that seat to begin with. Now, with problems brewing in places like Delaware, Florida, Illinois, Colorado and Nevada, we're treated to a daily dose of kos fury in Arkansas, where even the most optimistic of polls show that despite the huge surge of cash and attention, the "heroics" of the PCCC and FDL to prop up Halter, the "atrocities" of the Lincoln regime for the people in Arkansas, and the clear cut choice for progressive change in Arkansas, the numbers look unappealing at best, and hardly a wimper of "massive support" has rumbled through the early stages of this fight. And we think THIS is where you pin your message, your leverage and your credibility??? Who is thinking this through anyway???

    I have been EXTREMELY disappointed in Markos Kos. in zeroing in on this one from the get go. The rationale is poor, the basis for the actions is paper thin, and the prognosis is mixed at best. The savvy political strategists would never have picked this as a battleground to prove a point or a message, and despite the fact we ALL know Lincoln is completely dreadful as a champion for progressive ideals, we continue to miscalculate how universal such issues are throughout this nation, where in some spots, STILL, many simply DON'T CARE. Arkansas is still looking to be one of those places, and who could be surprised, given its location in the heart of the most myopic and ill-informed regions in the country.

    Go ahead, pound away. I am no Lincoln apologist, but I damn well would have preferred to see her fight unopposed against a GOP challenger. Best case, she wins, and you just know going in she is not the lynchpin of your caucus. Worst case, she loses and at that point you STILL have an inescapable message sent that panderers don't win, and that the Democratic Party needs more than seat fillers with short half-lives, feeding off the teet of the beast.

    Instead, we are primed to lose the PR war, the seat, and the state. Not sure what message that is sending, but I'm damn well looking to hit the "delete" button on it.

    I know I will catch a ton of cr&p for this post, but so be it. If you can't post a constructive dissenting opinion on here anymore, then what good is the site.

    •  Timing is everything (2+ / 0-)
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      ImpeachKingBushII, alkalinesky

      It is unconscionable to me that we would prioritize this race and this primary over similarly concerted efforts to rectify the injustice created by Judd Gregg in New Hampshire. By Olympia Snowe in Maine. By potentially risking a loss in Obama's former seat in Illinois and/or Biden's former seat in Delaware.

      This is a May 18 primary.  There's an entire summer during which to fundraising and promote activism for the general election in a whole host of states.

      •  No. That is wrong. (2+ / 0-)
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        alkalinesky, VelvetElvis

        You have to work well before the summer on getting cash in place, forces on the ground, strategies and messaging in line, and your candidates vetted and squared away.

        There were clearly half-hearted efforts on all of those fronts in Illinois, in Delaware, in Maine and numerous other House districts. Not to mention the biggest point - we now have progressive PACs and activist group thumping their chests on how wonderful it is they "got Halter to run", without considering how badly tarnished and clearly damaged their own political clout will be if/when Halter gets cooked in the primary.

        Further, a mud-slinging primary depletes resources, tarnishes voter perspectives, weakens public image, and often creates openings for the opponent in the general (though not always). Is it likely Lincoln's folks are scheming RIGHT NOW on the most effective ways to foment those 20%+ of voters with no opinion of Halter today into disapprovers? You betcha. And if/when some of those votes are swayed, Halter will have to work doubly hard, with limited resources, to win his own votes back in the general, versus taking aim at a Republican while carrying attractive 30% swayables in his pocket who are getting a look at him for the first time.

        No, by any objective standard, this was a political reach, and Halter's late entry into the game was by and large a byproduct of his own camp's hesitation about the viability of the polling and his own chances here. We were all too ready to give him a hard kick in the butt forward, without thinking of the long term impact, if only to make us feel better about ourselves regarding Lincoln's "betrayals" on an issue that was ultimately passed anyway. Not smart.

    •  I agree with a lot of that (6+ / 0-)

      people around here (DKos) really have no idea what the realities are of Democratic politics in the south.  

      ---
      Toyota: Proof US Union Labor Still Does it Better

      by VelvetElvis on Thu Apr 15, 2010 at 01:22:22 PM PDT

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    •  All statewide offices are held by Democrats (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      alkalinesky

      as is the legislature. It does go red for presidential races, unless your name is Clinton.

    •  this is why I love occam's razor... (1+ / 0-)
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      flhiii88

      ...and why I still respect and admire LBJ, despite the my opposing the Vietnam war. Can anyone just imagine what LBJ would've said and done to Blanche Lincoln, had she done to him what she did to Obama? I have no doubt that by the time that old "Master of the Senate" got through grilling her on his carpet, like a hotdog spitting its juices all over a hot grill, she would either sing a different tune or she would leave the party. And I for one would say, as she huffed and puffed out the door of the Oval Office, "Good riddance, with friends like you we sure don't need any more enemies! Let's see how you fare without this Democratic president having your back ever again!" Now that's what I call party "leadership".

      "Peace is the protector of genius. War is the mortal enemy of both peace and genius."

      by ImpeachKingBushII on Thu Apr 15, 2010 at 01:32:06 PM PDT

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      •  Yes, but LBJ had so many senators (2+ / 0-)
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        Egalitare, AmericanIdeal

        that he had some to spare. We don't.
        Occam's razor in this case is 'Do we want someone who is with us 40-50% of the time or someone who won't be with us even on one single vote?'- or, in other words, Lincoln or Boozman?

        •  and why do suppose he had so many?... (0+ / 0-)

          ...How do you think he defeated Goldwater by a landslide or passed his "Great Society"? It was a different world back then, where somebody's word and a handshake, and party loyalty and nation meant something. A promise made was a promise kept. Say what you will, but the man had the insight to know who were his true friends-and wasn't afraid of what others thought when he called them out for letting this nation down. And he had the true grit to stand-up and get down and dirty and fight for his principles, and not just when he had the votes sown-up. The man had guts!

          He had leadership qualities that you can't learn on-the-job or out of a book. He put his money where his mouth was, and when he passed Medicare, civil rights and voting rights, he didn't have to wave his finger in the air and see where the wind was blowing first, before he made his decisions. And once he made his decisions he stuck to them because he truly felt it was the right thing to do because civil rights was just as right as HCR is today, no matter what. And the people loved him for it, despite the war. He was what I would call a great leader, because he led by his actions all the way through the legislative process, and NOT just his words when it was expedient. Great orators do not necessarily make great leaders, and the best oratory will never measure-up to leading by example, and taking the risk of losing fair weather friends that owe their souls to the corporate and monied interests who have hijacked this nation.

          The choice is very clear to me. I would rather have one true friend of the working class Americans, than all of the corporate shills lined up back-to-back, just because they have "D's" after their name and because they vote with us on a few bills whenever their corporate masters tell them it's ok. I want somebody that's in love with serving our people and their needs, not somebody who would sell us all out if and as long as the price was right.

          That's what I meant by leadership.

          "Peace is the protector of genius. War is the mortal enemy of both peace and genius."

          by ImpeachKingBushII on Thu Apr 15, 2010 at 02:42:00 PM PDT

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  •  I suspect that a big problem with Blanche (0+ / 0-)

    Lincoln, which has led to many of her bad political decisions, is not having taken the power of the netroots/internet into account.

    She built her career in the era of the corporate media (which is over), she didn't know she was going to be this visible, and it's all but killed her.

  •  Halter "nary problem" except 12% back and static (4+ / 0-)

    "He's shrugged off all attacks with nary a problem."

    When Dr. Kos tells me I'm doing fine, I'll know to check my life insurance. Halter has not been able to move the poll numbers and he's 12% behind...that a nary problem...especially with $2M in MoveOn/ActBlue cash.

    Lincoln and Halter both looked doomed, not sure why Halter got into this race at this time.

    •  Agreed. (2+ / 0-)
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      The generalities flung around here sometimes boggle the mind.

      The challenger jumped in, behind the weight of unions, activists, the netroots and commentators, and hardly moved the needle. That's "VERY a problem" in my book - not nary a problem.

      Lincoln is doomed now, and probably always was. Problem is, it appears now we've attached the same anchor to a very attractive candidate who might've looked awfully good in a run for governor or another Senate opportunity in the next four years against a GOP foe, but now has the stain of a probable primary loss permanently emblazened on his chest.

  •  So basically (0+ / 0-)

    Halter and Lincoln are going all VA-Gov Primary on each other like Moran and McAuliffe did, possibly allowing Morrison to come in at the last second and win (like Deeds), only to get obliterated in the general, huh?

  •  I wonder (1+ / 0-)
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    who the Duggars will be supporting

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