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And this is only a very small fraction of those cost in monetary terms for any War but especially Wars of Choice, billions are just plain blown up in the occupations, billions are just lost, and more!

The Meaningful Real Costs in Lives Loss or Changed Forever can not be Calculated!

And out of these two occupations we've given the small band of criminals exactly what they wanted, raised the hatreds towards us and created the long term possibility, already started, of continued blowback, our legacy to the coming generations!

VA laboring under surge of wounded veterans: Analysis

Click on Graphic for Enlargement

April 15, 2010 In a sobering reminder of the long-term costs of war, a dramatic spike in disability claims during the last seven years has overwhelmed the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs and nearly doubled the cost of compensating wounded veterans, according to a Chicago Tribune analysis.

The bulk of the increases didn't come from veterans of the current wars in Iraq and Afghanistan but from those who served years or even decades before. Veterans from the Vietnam and Persian Gulf eras accounted for roughly 84 percent of the rise in spending, which hit $34.3 billion last year.


Mental Disorders Affect Nearly 1in4 Disabled Vets, Click on Graphic for Enlargement

The unanticipated crush of claims is exacerbated by the VA's antiquated compensation system, which hasn't been overhauled since 1945. Cumbersome and heavily bureaucratic, the system requires a mountain of paperwork, is based on diagnoses that lag far behind medical advances and runs on a computer system that is so outdated it can't accurately verify whether veterans were deployed.

And why is the VA's compensation system, and more, antiquanted? Simple, only a small fraction of the society serve, the rest cheer on then loose interest especially as the results from quickly start coming in, they'll fund the actions but not the results of, playing catchup which costs much more to stop from causing complete collapse, they also stay silent as the veteran fights for what was promised them for their service and they don't raise an eyebrow as the fights continue or the veteran is denied just compensation!

Instead of working toward building a new system, however, Congress has approved hundreds of millions of dollars in recent years to hire thousands of new employees to process claims, a temporary fix that's added more overhead to what is already one of the largest bureaucracies in the federal government.

The backlog of claims is expected to grow before it shrinks, however, as experienced employees are pulled off the line to train new ones. The VA says the backlog won't be eliminated until 2015.


Among the findings from the Tribune's analysis of more than 3 million disability claims approved by the VA: Some Facts Here


The VA's acting undersecretary for benefits, Mike Walcoff, said the Obama administration has fought for an unprecedented increase in funding to tackle problems facing the agency. He said the agency is working on multiple fronts, including developing a paperless computer system, improving communication with the military and developing pilot programs to streamline the claims process.

Why are we once again facing this, DeJa-Vu Vietnam and after, while many are screaming, lately, about their taxes and the now Government. Most were the same ones cheering on the Wars of Choice and off the budget books costs and condemning others for giving truth about the failed policies that they supported, including that coming. Simple, as I said above, they've lost interest while both theaters continue and never even mention them as they wave their posters of condemnation towards the government, and certainly don't want to pony up the costs for the results, again!

From the beginning of the current wars, the Bush administration woefully underestimated the number of veterans who would seek disability compensation, forcing the VA to play catch up just as an aging veteran population added to its workload. -->-->-->

The blame doesn't only lie with the bush administration, it also is right at the feet of the republican controlled congresses then, rubber stamping off budget costs, who not only didn't mention the costs coming but what was already there from the previous and neither did those, mentioned above, they represent as the whole group wrapped themselves in their flags, lapel flag pins, magnetic ribbons {which didn't last long like their 'support?'} and laughed about their 'purple heart bandages'!!

Hey folks of this so called 'Tea Party' Look In The Mirror!

Originally posted to jimstaro on Fri Apr 16, 2010 at 03:02 AM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (26+ / 0-)

    "What is the difference between an al Qaida terrorist and a misguided American terrorist?" "The planes they fly!"

    by jimstaro on Fri Apr 16, 2010 at 03:02:31 AM PDT

  •  War. (8+ / 0-)


    He who uses Tao to guide rulers
    Does not force beneath-heaven with arms.
    Such things recoil on their users.
    Where armies are
    Briars and brambles grow.
    Bad harvests follow big wars.
    Be firm and that is all:
    Dare not rely on force
    Be firm but not haughty,
    Firm but not boastful,
    Firm but not proud:
    Firm when necessary,
    Firm but non-violent.
    Things that flourish
    Fall into decay.
    This is not-Tao,
    And what is not-Tao soon ends.

    I used to be Snow White. And then I drifted. - Mae West

    by CherryTheTart on Fri Apr 16, 2010 at 03:10:49 AM PDT

    •  53 (6+ / 0-)

      If I were to suddenly gain fame, and put in charge of a government according to the Great Tao, what I should be most afraid of would be a boastful display.

        The Great Tao is very level and easy, but people love the by-ways.

        Their court-yards shall be well-manicured, but their fields shall be poorly cultivated, and their granaries empty. They shall wear elegant and ornamented robes, carry a sharp sword at their girdle, pamper themselves in eating and drinking, and have a superabundance of property and wealth; such princes are robbers and boasters.

      This is certainly contrary to the Tao

      Torture good, Healthcare bad, Marijuana evil.
      Doc in the Twitterverse

      by xxdr zombiexx on Fri Apr 16, 2010 at 03:56:56 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Four Homeless Vets to be Honored, RIP! (16+ / 0-)

    Homeless Veterans Will Be Honored Sunday At Eternal Valley


    Four homeless Vets will be buried with full military honors in Newhall, CA on Sunday, April 18 as part of a partnership between VA and several other organizations. It's always sad to see this, but at least these men will get a proper send-off. If you're in the area and would like to attend, info is below. --Brandon Friedman

    April 14 2010 Four men who served in the U.S. Armed Forces will get a full military funeral, even despite being classified as "homeless" at the time of their death.

    The funerals will be arranged through Dignity Memorial's Homeless Veterans Burial Program, which aims to accommodate veterans whose remains are left unclaimed.

    On Sunday, April 18, the men will be honored in a full military ceremony at Eternal Valley Memorial Park in Newhall. The ceremony includes prayers by Rabbi Mark Blazer of Temple Beth Ami of Newhall, Chaplain Marjorie Link of Henry Mayo Hospital, and the raising of the flags by the Memorial Honor Detail Team from the Riverside National Cemetery.


    The veterans being honored Sunday are:

       * John C. Newman, who was with the U.S. Navy from 1942- 1945
       * Raymond Frajardo, who served in the U.S. Navy from 1957-1963
       * Larry Lavine, a member of the U.S. Army from 1957-1958
       * Edward Goodrich, an Army veteran who served from 1962-1965.

    The ceremony is open to the public and will begin at 1:00 p.m. -->-->-->

    "What is the difference between an al Qaida terrorist and a misguided American terrorist?" "The planes they fly!"

    by jimstaro on Fri Apr 16, 2010 at 03:17:43 AM PDT

  •  Binghamton's Mayor Matthew Ryan (9+ / 0-)

    NY mayor to put 'cost of war' sign on City Hall

    April 15, 2010 Binghamton's mayor plans to hang an electronic "cost of war" sign outside City Hall.

    The 4-foot-wide electronic sign being installed next week on a side wall of the building will highlight the cost to local, state and federal taxpayer of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. -->-->-->

    Ryan gets praise, scorn for idea of 'cost-of-war' sign on city hall

    Matt Ryan answers questions outside City Hall on Wednesday. (GEORGE BASLER / Staff Photo)

    BINGHAMTON -- Matthew T. Ryan said Wednesday he was looking to spark a debate. He already has.

    Flanked by local peace activists, the Binghamton mayor officially announced at a press conference that the city -- at his direction -- is installing a "cost-of-war" sign on the exterior of city hall that will show how much local taxpayer money has gone to support the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Ryan emphasized not one penny of taxpayer money is going to pay for the electronic sign, which will go up next week. The cost, set at about $6,000, is being funded entirely by private contributions from the Broome County Cost of War (COW) Project, a local peace action group that has been demonstrating against the two wars. The group also will pay for the sign's upkeep. -->-->-->

    Today especially one would think that the 'teabaggers' would be cheering on this Mayor, don't count on it, most of them Cheered on these Wars of Choice, along with the off budget borrowing to fund and defended even when billions were just plain lost, while Never mentioning any Sacrifice as to the soldiers serving and most certainly the Veterans of. They certainly haven't been front and center for us older vets! Nor do they even mention the occupations, now in their speeches and speak, still ongoing except when they feel that need to wrap the flag around them and sound like they 'support', as they rail against, now, what they should have the previous decade that got us to the now!!

    "What is the difference between an al Qaida terrorist and a misguided American terrorist?" "The planes they fly!"

    by jimstaro on Fri Apr 16, 2010 at 03:18:12 AM PDT

  •  WWI vet (5+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Dallasdoc, Limelite, jimstaro, llbear, Norbrook

    I was taken aback to realize how long the costs of the Irag war will go on when I saw in the news an obit of Britain's last WWI vet.

    Granted few Iraq war veterans will live to be 100+ years old, but a lot will live into their 70s and 80s  -- meaning that disability and pension payments to them will be flowing freely 50 years from now!

    •  Spanish American War vet (1+ / 0-)
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      As a kid in the mid 1960s it was a delight to watch the Memorial Day parade in Brewster NY, mostly because of the local citizen who led the parade each year.

      If I remember correctly, his name was Henry Wells and he was said to be one of the last living veterans of the Spanish American War. He would lead the parade proudly, wearing his 65-year-old uniform, and carrying a special flag with a light-weight staff.

      Anyway, it points again to the fact that our veterans will still be with us 50, 60, and even 70 years after the war is over.

  •  War is bad only as long as the guy from the other (5+ / 0-)
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    jimstaro, lotlizard, llbear, shann, Norbrook

    party does it. When it's our guy doing it it's ok. Now wonder we are in a permanent state of war. We are simply taking turns at it. The illusion will continue until we fall off the cliff. Human beings are not that evolved after all.

  •  The Tragedy of Oklahoma City 15 Years Later (2+ / 0-)
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    lotlizard, llbear

    Live stream in 15 minutes. President Clinton delivering keynote. Mark Potok on panel.

    April 16, 2010, 9:30am – 12:30pm

    Opening the symposium will be a keynote speech by former President Bill Clinton who will discuss Oklahoma City and its aftermath.

    Following the speech will be a panel discussion of experts who will discuss Oklahoma City, how the country reacted to it, and what lessons we can lean from it today about our political discourse.

    Despite what the time says above this just started around 10am, streaming is on now if you want to watch or listen, Clinton hasn't talked yet.

    "What is the difference between an al Qaida terrorist and a misguided American terrorist?" "The planes they fly!"

    by jimstaro on Fri Apr 16, 2010 at 07:10:41 AM PDT

  •  the vast, vast majority of the costs of wars (0+ / 0-)

    are paid by the civilians who are unlucky enough to live in the countries that the US makes war on.

    And they pay for generations.

    War cannot be waged to instill any virtue, including democracy or the liberation of women. - Chris Hedges

    by dancewater on Fri Apr 16, 2010 at 09:13:01 AM PDT

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